From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:08:28 2009 Received: (qmail 14417 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:08:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33380E181AC for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB03E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96593610003 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:08:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E753610002 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30335 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2009 22:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.170.70) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:08:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> Message-Id: <28FC7FA9-A5FB-4F17-93A7-945B0257F42E@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:08:16 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:08:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3d6dc49101220213263 RAW records absolutely everything that the camera sensor can see, allowing you to apply your own settings later (I use Lightroom and love it) and recover details in shadows and highlights so long as they are there. In JPEG the camera applies the settings you've specified and discards all other information. The best example I have this week - I wanted to see what the Leica M9's black and white setting was like - when I opened the images in Lightroom they were in colour because the DNG (RAW) file held all the information available - I'd forgotten I had the camera set to DNG +JPEG Fine when shooting so I had to go find the JPEG to see the camera's B&W settings. If I'd been shooting JPEGs, the colour information would have been discarded. As to white balance - it's like having the perfect auto WB. In Lightroom or any other RAW file reader, you just adjust the slider to any temperature you wish. Shoot RAW, buy big cards. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/10/2009, at 4:00 AM, Olaf Greve wrote: > One thing I'm wondering about, however, is the RAW format. I had never > looked into it and thought it would be just a lossless format, such as > TIFF, however, the remarks from the both of you suggest there are more > advantages, like not having to set the WB??? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:10:52 2009 Received: (qmail 3351 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:10:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:10:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADBCE18053 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D0DE240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1FB3610002 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A63610001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30525 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2009 22:10:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.170.70) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:10:29 -0000 In-Reply-To: <001e01ca41fe$09dc1f80$0465a8c0@MEDIAPC> References: <001e01ca41fe$09dc1f80$0465a8c0@MEDIAPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <571FB90E-4CBC-4F13-84B9-AEDA4E816E4A@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:10:41 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:10:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3d76c303151612113968 That's a silver-nosed G. Zuiko - surely it would have to be a 55mm f1.2? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/10/2009, at 4:44 AM, Jon Mitchell wrote: > Hi Bill, > > 50mm/f1.2 available here .... > > http://www.andrewscameras.co.uk/used%20olympus.htm > > Not sure that's exactly a bargain, and not giving any personal > recommendation (other than the fact I walk past the shop > occasionally). > > And it's the wrong side of the pond, but does the exchange rate > work in > your favour at the moment ? > > Jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NSURIT@aol.com [mailto:NSURIT@aol.com] > Sent: 30 September 2009 19:09 > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six > > Part of what was recently stolen was my Olympus Chrome Six in near > mint > > condition with case. It had the 2.8 lens and all leather was > intact. No > light > leaks. I used it and was delighted with the results. If anyone has > one > they are interested in sending to a new home, please contact me off > list. > Same goes for the 90mm f2 and 50mm f1.2., both of which were near > mint > with > hoods. I've just about got most of the kit replacements tracked down, > other > than these items and my Gossen Sixtino light meter. Yes, it was old, > but > accurate and had a really dandy little hard plastic clamshell case. > Bill > Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:13:21 2009 Received: (qmail 241 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:13:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B756AE181A8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CF4E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859E13610006 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54593648001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13134 invoked by uid 504); 30 Sep 2009 22:13:13 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:13:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3d801130392439112457 Who set the values for the 90mm and 50mm 1.2? You arbitrarily or you and some agreed on documentation or... ? Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Well, fortunately or perhaps unfortunately, I had the 90mm f2 and the 50 mm > f1.2 on a separate schedule. The 90mm at $700 and the 50mm f1.2 at $225. > I was asleep at the wheel, so I will get paid $925 for the two. The > Chrome Six was covered under my homeowners policy which pays replacement cost. > Given that they haven't been made in about 55 years, that will end up > being on the used market. No blank checks, but we will arrive at an amount > that one should be able to buy one for on the used market and I will be paid > that amount. My homeowners policy has a $1,000 deductible so that will come > off the top, which means the theft will cost me $1000, plus the amount > between what I insured the 90mm and 50mm for and my actual cost to replace > them and the price to fix my door lock. I figure that will be somewhere > around $2,000, however with some careful shopping I may be able to reduce that a > little. Glad I had insurance. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:01:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: > > How do these rarities get evaluated for insurance coverage? > > Chuck Norcutt > > NSURIT@aol.com wrote: >> Part of what was recently stolen was my Olympus Chrome Six in near mint >> condition with case. It had the 2.8 lens and all leather was intact. No > light >> leaks. I used it and was delighted with the results. If anyone has > one >> they are interested in sending to a new home, please contact me off > list. >> Same goes for the 90mm f2 and 50mm f1.2., both of which were near mint > with >> hoods. I've just about got most of the kit replacements tracked down, > other >> than these items and my Gossen Sixtino light meter. Yes, it was old, > but >> accurate and had a really dandy little hard plastic clamshell case. > Bill >> Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:15:52 2009 Received: (qmail 22287 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42963E181CB for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD06BE240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AEA3648001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C11C3610001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com (mail-yw0-f172.google.com [209.85.211.172]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so8056371ywh.27 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.236.12 with SMTP id j12mr846373ybh.168.1254348940875; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0909301515g6a81f655j8d347b08ce763087@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:15:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3d89855589730998309 You are in the middle of the Central Valley. Nothing to see there :-) Head west to the coast. At least Route 1/101 should be pretty good. 2009/9/30 Johan Malmstr=F6m : > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > -- -- = // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:25:07 2009 Received: (qmail 4866 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:25:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF6FE18255 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E727E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337B13610006 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEB53610003 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21131 invoked by uid 504); 30 Sep 2009 22:25:00 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:25:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3dac3306341879814018 You commented about fixing the door lock. Was the theft from your home or your car? Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Well, fortunately or perhaps unfortunately, I had the 90mm f2 and the 50 mm > f1.2 on a separate schedule. The 90mm at $700 and the 50mm f1.2 at $225. > I was asleep at the wheel, so I will get paid $925 for the two. The > Chrome Six was covered under my homeowners policy which pays replacement cost. > Given that they haven't been made in about 55 years, that will end up > being on the used market. No blank checks, but we will arrive at an amount > that one should be able to buy one for on the used market and I will be paid > that amount. My homeowners policy has a $1,000 deductible so that will come > off the top, which means the theft will cost me $1000, plus the amount > between what I insured the 90mm and 50mm for and my actual cost to replace > them and the price to fix my door lock. I figure that will be somewhere > around $2,000, however with some careful shopping I may be able to reduce that a > little. Glad I had insurance. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:01:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: > > How do these rarities get evaluated for insurance coverage? > > Chuck Norcutt > > NSURIT@aol.com wrote: >> Part of what was recently stolen was my Olympus Chrome Six in near mint >> condition with case. It had the 2.8 lens and all leather was intact. No > light >> leaks. I used it and was delighted with the results. If anyone has > one >> they are interested in sending to a new home, please contact me off > list. >> Same goes for the 90mm f2 and 50mm f1.2., both of which were near mint > with >> hoods. I've just about got most of the kit replacements tracked down, > other >> than these items and my Gossen Sixtino light meter. Yes, it was old, > but >> accurate and had a really dandy little hard plastic clamshell case. > Bill >> Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:27:15 2009 Received: (qmail 9674 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:27:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E4EE1824C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3F1E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2671CD493 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19871CD48E for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2009 18:27:07 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:27:07 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC3A2F70200004E0002992B@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:27:03 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:27:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3db4391981220213263 Your not taking Hwy 1/101? 5 takes your through the armpit of California...= . and some wine country, too. Clay >>> Johan Malmstr=F6m 09/30/09 5:24 PM >>> = So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. = Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along = the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. = Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? = / Johan = -- = _________________________________________________________________ = Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus = Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ = Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:28:34 2009 Received: (qmail 17047 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:28:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:28:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDDDE18279 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A20E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED23610001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C253610008 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2009 18:28:07 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:28:07 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC3A32F0200004E00029930@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:27:59 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t Champagne Colour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:28:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3db92163087801554290 Sounds like the perfect combo for a vintage Jag (preFord). Clay >>> Ken Norton 09/30/09 5:33 PM >>> > > Like this? > http://www.cameraleather.com/colors/BRgreen.htm > I'd prefer the metal to be BRG and the leather a nice dark tan. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:32:34 2009 Received: (qmail 8965 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:32:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:32:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04E7E181CD for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25BEE240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976B53610008 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8613610004 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1377369fgg.8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.144 with SMTP id k16mr40306hbe.103.1254349947643; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4AC221340200004E00029732@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <4AC2603F.6010306@sfr.fr> <99A32C13-2E5F-4AF4-A382-35020B9067AC@frozenlight.eu> <41273F1E-AAE0-4C81-B8B2-51235122732E@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:32:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2b6fae478b30a661 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:32:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3dc82251821234514069 > > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even indicted with a series > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was measured - quite > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the limit just for a > few yards. > Knock the cones over -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:36:45 2009 Received: (qmail 10480 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:36:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49480E18277 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066B1E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63AD3610004 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819193610003 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30522 invoked by uid 504); 30 Sep 2009 22:36:39 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:36:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3dd7d143376789618724 Check Google street view for the area you're going to. Wander around = and it will show you what it looks like. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. = > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along = > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > = > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > = > / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:37:40 2009 Received: (qmail 20957 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:37:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D116E18054 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84A1E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86E91CD48E for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3921CD488 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8UMaeIP031343 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:36:40 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.bcf.4efd21af (14502) for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:36:34 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:36:34 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:37:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3ddb44252013633067 I agree. Bill Barber In a message dated 9/30/2009 5:11:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, afildes@people.net.au writes: That's a silver-nosed G. Zuiko - surely it would have to be a 55mm f1.2? Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:40:46 2009 Received: (qmail 3071 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001D8E18054 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A31E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E3919E955 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606BD19E93A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8UMeZhw005164 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:40:35 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c87.5ad85284 (14502) for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:40:31 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:40:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3de6e13031946193717 I set the amount based on what I paid for them. The 50mm f1.2 was a particularly good deal. Hmm, the 90 wasn't such a bad deal at the time. Like new in box with documentation. I then didn't revisit the situation until I had a claim. Not so smart, Mr. Insurance guy. It will all work out. I may not be "whole" however I think I'll get close. I have no problem with deductibles, however the under-insuring was a deductible I created for myself. Bill Barber In a message dated 9/30/2009 5:13:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: Who set the values for the 90mm and 50mm 1.2? You arbitrarily or you and some agreed on documentation or... ? Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Well, fortunately or perhaps unfortunately, I had the 90mm f2 and the 50 mm > f1.2 on a separate schedule. The 90mm at $700 and the 50mm f1.2 at $225. > I was asleep at the wheel, so I will get paid $925 for the two. The > Chrome Six was covered under my homeowners policy which pays replacement cost. > Given that they haven't been made in about 55 years, that will end up > being on the used market. No blank checks, but we will arrive at an amount > that one should be able to buy one for on the used market and I will be paid > that amount. My homeowners policy has a $1,000 deductible so that will come > off the top, which means the theft will cost me $1000, plus the amount > between what I insured the 90mm and 50mm for and my actual cost to replace > them and the price to fix my door lock. I figure that will be somewhere > around $2,000, however with some careful shopping I may be able to reduce that a > little. Glad I had insurance. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:01:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: > > How do these rarities get evaluated for insurance coverage? > > Chuck Norcutt > > NSURIT@aol.com wrote: >> Part of what was recently stolen was my Olympus Chrome Six in near mint >> condition with case. It had the 2.8 lens and all leather was intact. No > light >> leaks. I used it and was delighted with the results. If anyone has > one >> they are interested in sending to a new home, please contact me off > list. >> Same goes for the 90mm f2 and 50mm f1.2., both of which were near mint > with >> hoods. I've just about got most of the kit replacements tracked down, > other >> than these items and my Gossen Sixtino light meter. Yes, it was old, > but >> accurate and had a really dandy little hard plastic clamshell case. > Bill >> Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:41:47 2009 Received: (qmail 22046 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:41:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3ECE18245 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABD6E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B51619E978 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB58F19E955 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8UMfaQa004238 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:41:36 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.cf9.638d903f (14502) for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:41:30 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:41:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3deab209692013633067 They "punched" the lock in my car with a screw driver and hammer. Bill Barber In a message dated 9/30/2009 5:25:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: Was the theft from your home or your car? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 00:58:16 2009 Received: (qmail 1860 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 22:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 22:58:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83297E1824D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5D1E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5733708006 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFC3708005 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34767519F5 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 450ac626) id dm0207.4ac3924e.bdb88 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:08 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKw+KAewnSawIAAAAB,3339f7c0a6bce5c5c2fdf3c5061dcfbc Message-ID: <4AC3E28B.9060606@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:58:19 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <4AC3B734.9080400@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC3B734.9080400@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 00:58:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3e288303715683411216 It is my understanding that all raw files from all makers contain a jpg, it is this jpg that is what you see on your camera's LCD screen after the shot. Jim Couch Chuck Norcutt wrote: > processing overhead. I don't believe Oly raw files contain an embedded > JPEG but you could choose raw + JPEG and choose the size image you want > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 01:09:49 2009 Received: (qmail 26873 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2009 23:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 23:09:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B484E1824D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A68EE240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7981CD497 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531F21CD488 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A79A731130; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 450ac626) id dm0202.4a9c48ea.59ca4ba; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:43 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKw+U3WYA2lgIAAAAC,4b1375e72f6dd7a26487e8078141b5d8 Message-ID: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:09:53 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion , jmalmstrom@mac.com References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 01:09:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac3e53c20296107113666 Johan, Sounds suspiciously like Fresno. If that is the case (or near Fresno) = and you have a car, you can easily do a day trip to Yosemite Valley. Jim Couch Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. = > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along = > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 03:09:08 2009 Received: (qmail 22613 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 01:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 01:09:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F963E1829F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17DEE240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8381CD492 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:08:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0D91CD48B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:08:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16273 invoked by uid 503); 1 Oct 2009 01:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 01:08:56 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: <002701ca4233$c02eac50$408c04f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpCFE9Cs8/nHxoVRwesoz+tLsHEkQAF9ERQ Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 03:09:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac40134147656107113666 If you are traveling soon your timing probably isn't very good. Towards LA there are some very nice springtime flower spots. I've seen fantastic springtime photos from Gorman. (similar to http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html ) The California Poppy Preserve is surely far from its peak and located significantly east of 5 but ... http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=3D627 There are good migratory bird spots out in the central valley but you're too early. Gray Lodge which is too far north is pretty unattractive most of the year but when the geese are there it can be pretty amazing. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/region2/graylodge/index.html I headed south a couple years ago to check out some of the wildlife areas near Los Banos hoping they would be like Gray Lodge. My timing was off and it was very disappointing. At the right time of the right year many of the wildlife areas can be very worthwhile but otherwise about as attractive as semi-abandoned farm land. The DFG website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/index.html will give you some names of places to look up. Guessing from your comments you'll be in Kern County http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D15= &sear chtext=3DKern or Fresno County (which only has Millerton Lake listed under state parks so maybe street photography?) http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D10= &sear chtext=3DFresno Your trip is probably too early for fall colors nor does California come to mind when you think fall colors. http://www.calphoto.com/fall.htm = In addition to Jim's mention of Yosemite, King's Canyon is good whenever you can get into it. It doesn't take much hiking to get high into the Sierras. But "not far or reasonable drive" by California standards often includes a 200 mile radius. ;-) Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [mailto:jmalmstrom@mac.com] = So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. = Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along = the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 03:43:25 2009 Received: (qmail 31569 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 01:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 01:43:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B482E182A0 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC969E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C163610005 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264423610003 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n911hIE1014650 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:18 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 03:43:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4093d185701879814018 To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert your image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not available in the camera JPEG setting. With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have more room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW conversion. You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further processing. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olaf Greve" > Hi C.H. and Philippe, > > > Thanks for your aswers! > It looks like when shooting in JPEG WB balance setting is required for > each situation then... All clear. > One thing I'm wondering about, however, is the RAW format. I had never > looked into it and thought it would be just a lossless format, such as > TIFF, however, the remarks from the both of you suggest there are more > advantages, like not having to set the WB??? > Can you (or anyone else) give a quick run-down on the format and its > advantages? I'm getting curious to this...:) > > > Thx and cheers! > Olafo > > On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:59, "C.H.Ling" wrote: > >> Olaf, if you don't like RAW then the only way is to set color temp. >> before >> shooting. For flash just use "Flash" or "Daylight" WB. For outdoor, >> bring a >> grey card, lock the white balance by using "One-touch white balance" >> at page >> 85 of E500 PDF manual. >> >> C.H.Ling >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 05:07:29 2009 Received: (qmail 27024 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 03:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 03:07:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8B2E18212 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6C3E240D9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9213D3610003 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845A3610002 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21629 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 03:07:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 05:07:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac41cf1233461950411718 Well, that may be true but, on the Mynolta A1, the JPEG image in raw mode is a postage stamp that just fills the small display screen. It cannot be magnified or used for any practical purpose. Chuck Norcutt Jim Couch wrote: > It is my understanding that all raw files from all makers contain a jpg, > it is this jpg that is what you see on your camera's LCD screen after > the shot. > > Jim Couch > > > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> processing overhead. I don't believe Oly raw files contain an embedded >> JPEG but you could choose raw + JPEG and choose the size image you want >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 07:19:52 2009 Received: (qmail 26719 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 05:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 05:19:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5B7E18200 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B99E240B4 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321FE3610002 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8D53610005 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871AF461672 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:46:00 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:19:42 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 07:19:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac43bf8262001744846740 That's a hefty old "deductible" (we call it "excess" in the UK), Bill. Is that normal? I am sorry to hear of your theft but I hope that you enjoy the hunt for replacement stuff. Chris On 30 Sep 2009, at 22:03, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > My homeowners policy has a $1,000 deductible so that will come > off the top, which means the theft will cost me $1000, plus the > amount > between what I insured the 90mm and 50mm for and my actual cost to > replace > them and the price to fix my door lock. I figure that will be > somewhere > around $2,000, however with some careful shopping I may be able to > reduce that a > little. Glad I had insurance. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 07:23:29 2009 Received: (qmail 10891 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 05:23:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 05:23:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11025E182A1 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021B3E240B4 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55701CD489 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A77F1CD485 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C48461671 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:49:39 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:23:21 +0100 Message-Id: <744D0F13-1A48-466C-A21C-7DF0E49DDF32@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC221340200004E00029732@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <4AC2603F.6010306@sfr.fr> <99A32C13-2E5F-4AF4-A382-35020B9067AC@frozenlight.eu> <41273F1E-AAE0-4C81-B8B2-51235122732E@people.net.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 07:23:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac43cd1102949730998309 Aaargh! They brake whatever speed they are doing, most of the time! There are so many prats on the road who have no clue what speed they're doing, or they decide to go 5 under the limit just to be sure. But then I remember this was a point I made around 3 years ago ... :-) Chris On 30 Sep 2009, at 22:55, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even indicted with a series > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was measured - quite > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the limit just for a > few yards. > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 08:51:48 2009 Received: (qmail 11855 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 06:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 06:51:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F079E1829F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72333E240B4 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC9A3610002 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302963610001 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:51:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 881 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:04:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:51:35 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 08:51:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4518456921234514069 Hi All, Just for interests sake, does anybody know what the actual resolving power of the 80/4.0 Macro is at the various apertures? I am hoping it's good enough to be basically diffraction-limited, and by reputation it's possibly the finest 1:1 lens that covers a full 35mm frame in the world (the Ultra Micro nikkors are amazing, there are models that are diffraction-limited at f/1.2 and even f/1.0, but almost none of these exotic models do 1:1 or cover a 35mm frame, and some of them only do specialised wavelengths of light (UV, etc). I know the 80/4.0 is bloody good, but I would like to satisfy my boyish curiosity with some technical information on just "how" good it is. Anybody? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 11:22:31 2009 Received: (qmail 4678 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 09:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 09:22:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CCEE1829F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA1C19DF5B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C0A19DF1F for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 11:32:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4772f199781879814018 As I understand it, the lines on the road are not to indicate the presence of the camera to the motorist, but are part of the measurement system for some models of speed-check camera. I assume the photo/flash shows the movement of the car and they count how many lines have been crossed in a certain time period. Others may know more of the details... br jez On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even indicted [sic] with a series > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was measured - quite > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the limit just for a > few yards. > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 11:38:13 2009 Received: (qmail 31119 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 09:38:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 09:38:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F30EE1822D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDCBE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F0219DFD1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:38:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B7419DFC7 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:38:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 285 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2009 09:38:03 -0000 Message-ID: <49094.97586.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ti9Eij0VM1lZc1TrzsMIEujm7TT3EBvnLTNirlGTR2.CWEfsYpm47ufnliDWTa.t8__raBVh9gf6hAJPct5LUR07ryezdVQJGk45VOrRDmXcTKMZUOfOpSIFR4w2Moub05Rb7F7vUPiypQDo4nnt494.V030amvesAbfd7GpFHZD1XK.Soz0RVkoCnvO0YfMKlIVdq_TjQaMP.ggEO9AlQ3Yn5aRQXkplHRswA728E3ptlmo966BSSDKy1eoBMU3uDkvS81PCJqgC3lwR3GzEHhfyZ9zn2_klWbsEodVJQGuEabEQNJmkgUeHcYxkUqyNiatv_FMAq5Er3YutGxz7BM8zTpRth3Ufs4ej8bi4XHVDIwdVmXKkazj15Bv Received: from [86.151.156.171] by web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:38:02 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:38:02 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 11:38:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac47885171059752976205 Correct Jez..nothing to do with warning the motorist..but a "rule". Countin= g the stripes you have traveled shows if you are over the limit. These particular cameras always do the rear view. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Jez Cunningham wrote: > From: Jez Cunningham > Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 10:32 AM > As I understand it, the lines on the > road are not to indicate the > presence of the camera to the motorist, but are part of > the > measurement system for some models of speed-check > camera.=A0 I assume > the photo/flash shows the movement of the car and they > count how many > lines have been crossed in a certain time period.=A0 > Others may know > more of the details... > br > jez > = > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes > wrote: > > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even > indicted [sic] with a series > > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was > measured - quite > > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the > limit just for a > > few yards. > > Andrew Fildes > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 11:40:37 2009 Received: (qmail 20853 invoked by uid 0); 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(218.215.170.70) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 09:53:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> <49094.97586.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:53:25 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 11:53:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac47c22128976789618724 Dunno - I was too busy braking to avoid the prat in the fat Audi ahead of me who had just thrown out the anchor. A disproportionate number of difficult drivers in the UK cruise around in big fat Audis - especially those new ones with the fairground headlights. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/10/2009, at 7:40 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > So is there a double flash? Or is the shutter speed such that it > records a blur? (we're almost On Topic!) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 12:13:05 2009 Received: (qmail 24541 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 10:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 10:13:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7DBE181BA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F55E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2153708001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E383610004 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (timhughes@ieee.org whitelisted) Received: from web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.113]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32139 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2009 10:12:56 -0000 Message-ID: <294759.31335.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FQg4Ce8VM1k8yq103fWHrS8oZTx9ERzXixI6I6InwNQca.HNZ45tXH9zXMFmbEGpyWWGD2TmWVl9wPVg6ubPOuwkYznp1Dd0llpfB1cG8ZtNb45_e5Xux1.pamg2i2rm1utgVUDcPgyglYpLrAXVfQ7XPghrP1ygB1Ny53_4nf5CcuO2C913ffagImDRd7_WVW8psHqUQf3.SERqQcA.wVHJmSnxd8ThmUPkbWcEJmE5Cb7uMlVzkdCBEPMA69ZqTU14LQ2UA7Eo3FVOrY3WWSIzPbfm42Ehao3nDXvpbIUDc7Wqw.3nBsd4JG8aqQW9aTLSEN.g7BfumFtjovE7R8rwLdYAez5ShawzoWk0IqhXfbHRlBULK0MwQnVMYbXjKcDkPipBwYGuVaRD4QgZkKm3k5ikmTh4VyMH8WC2r_UlBk9wi7R0x.zqhjk- Received: from [99.56.62.63] by web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:12:56 PDT X-RocketYMMF: hi100@sbcglobal.net X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Hughes To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <002701ca4233$c02eac50$408c04f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 12:13:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac480b1263832439112457 Johan,=A0 = =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If you truly are half way between SF and LA on the 5,= you would probably be little south of Coalinga?=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Coalinga is= wired up like crazy, for the next big earthquake there , which is somewhat= overdue! = Yosemite and Kings Canyon are within striking distance, especially for two = seperate weekend trips. There are other nice forest areas accessible by ro= ads to pumped storage dams etc in the southern Sierras, but not quite as sp= ectacular. = A long drive=A0 from there, but really nice and photogenic is Joshua Tree, = which is inland from LA, but you would drive to Bakersfield and skirt aroun= d avoiding LA. It is 8~9hr drive from the Bay Area, so maybe 6hrs from whe= re you would be. Two other places not too far distant are: =A0 Los padres forest in the coas= tal range, specifically Arroyo Seco park (off HWY 101 near Greenfield) whic= h is very,very nice river hiking/swimming if you like the outdoors.=A0 The = second is pinnacles national monument, dry but very nice hiking and pleasa= nt rock climbing if you like that.=A0 To get to those 2 places, may take lo= nger than it looks on the map, because of the secondary roads needed, to ge= t over from the 5. = Tim Hughes --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jeff Keller wrote: From: Jeff Keller Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:08 PM If you are traveling soon your timing probably isn't very good. Towards LA there are some very nice springtime flower spots. I've seen fantastic springtime photos from Gorman. (similar to http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html ) The California Poppy Preserve is surely far from its peak and located significantly east of 5 but ... http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=3D627 There are good migratory bird spots out in the central valley but you're too early. Gray Lodge which is too far north is pretty unattractive most of the year but when the geese are there it can be pretty amazing. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/region2/graylodge/index.html I headed south a couple years ago to check out some of the wildlife areas near Los Banos hoping they would be like Gray Lodge. My timing was off and it was very disappointing. At the right time of the right year many of the wildlife areas can be very worthwhile but otherwise about as attractive as semi-abandoned farm land. The DFG website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/index.html will give you some names of places to look up. Guessing from your comments you'll be in Kern County http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D15= &sear chtext=3DKern or Fresno County (which only has Millerton Lake listed under state parks so maybe street photography?) http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D10= &sear chtext=3DFresno Your trip is probably too early for fall colors nor does California come to mind when you think fall colors. http://www.calphoto.com/fall.htm = In addition to Jim's mention of Yosemite, King's Canyon is good whenever you can get into it. It doesn't take much hiking to get high into the Sierras. But "not far or reasonable drive" by California standards often includes a 200 mile radius. ;-) Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [mailto:jmalmstrom@mac.com] = So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months.=A0 = Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along=A0 = the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 12:40:22 2009 Received: (qmail 12201 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 10:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 10:40:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE17E18247 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A533CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8008B19E19E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:40:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770D819E180 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f206.google.com (mail-fx0-f206.google.com [209.85.220.206]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so6740fxm.28 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.13.37 with SMTP id 37mr989657fgm.58.1254393610292; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm158422fga.10.2009.10.01.03.40.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com><49094.97586.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: <6E4875AF3D4C4E8DBA470CD49D0E3EA0@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpCezwWTWG+SutCSoWvhNUchaeT9wAB95kg Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 12:40:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac48716100091342116753 Yes Double Flash These are the typical cameras in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatso Dave = -----Original Message----- From: Jez Cunningham [mailto:jez@cunningham.net] = Sent: 01 October 2009 10:40 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 So is there a double flash? Or is the shutter speed such that it records a blur? (we're almost On Topic!) Jez On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, JOHN DUGGAN wrote: > Correct Jez..nothing to do with warning the motorist..but a "rule". Counting the stripes you have traveled shows if you are over the limit. > These particular cameras always do the rear view. > Regards > =A0John Duggan, > =A0 =A0 Wales, UK > > > --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Jez Cunningham wrote: > >> From: Jez Cunningham >> Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from = >> No10 >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 10:32 AM As I understand it, the = >> lines on the road are not to indicate the presence of the camera to = >> the motorist, but are part of the measurement system for some models = >> of speed-check camera.=A0 I assume the photo/flash shows the movement = >> of the car and they count how many lines have been crossed in a = >> certain time period. >> Others may know >> more of the details... >> br >> jez >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes = >> >> wrote: >> > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even >> indicted [sic] with a series >> > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was >> measured - quite >> > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the >> limit just for a >> > few yards. >> > Andrew Fildes >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 13:26:55 2009 Received: (qmail 26164 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87317E181CB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFB2E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BD519E2F8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A5619E2F4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25301 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 11:26:47 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 11:26:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC491F6.6090409@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:26:46 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 13:26:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac491ff300601076813867 I dunno but there's a relative test at the bottom of this page which says the auto version of the 80/4 is slightly better than the Apo-Rodagon D 75mm f/4 1:1 macro. Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > Hi All, > > Just for interests sake, does anybody know what the actual resolving > power > of the 80/4.0 Macro is at the various apertures? I am hoping it's good > enough to be > basically diffraction-limited, and by reputation it's possibly the > finest 1:1 > lens that covers a full 35mm frame in the world (the Ultra Micro > nikkors are amazing, > there are models that are diffraction-limited at f/1.2 and even f/1.0, > but almost none > of these exotic models do 1:1 or cover a 35mm frame, and some of them > only do specialised > wavelengths of light (UV, etc). > > I know the 80/4.0 is bloody good, but I would like to satisfy my > boyish curiosity with > some technical information on just "how" good it is. > > Anybody? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 13:34:24 2009 Received: (qmail 20593 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 11:34:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 11:34:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA26E18277 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CB2E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B30719E325 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:34:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DA919E32B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:34:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n91BYFfN014015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:34:17 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:34:11 +1000 Message-ID: <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpCY6Yj4PaKEMTGSTC8a4CUTMHcYgAJc9Yg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 13:34:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac493c0146942517112723 Dawid, I don't have the numbers but I happened to be using mine tonight: E-510, OM Bellows, Zuiko Auto Macro 80mm + 170mm CU lens, ISO 400, 1/125, small direct flash at about 60cm & 45 degrees. Only resize and sharpen of jpg. Subject is the back of a teaspoon, the "P" in EPNS is ~1.5mm high. Minimum bellows extension ~50mm between flange on body and flange on lens, f16. http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-002-a.jpg Maximum bellows extension ~210mm, f11 (Flash bumped up to full power for this one) http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-011-a.jpg ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Dawid Loubser [mailto:dawidl@solms.co.za] > Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 4:52 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? > > Hi All, > > Just for interests sake, does anybody know what the actual resolving > power > of the 80/4.0 Macro is at the various apertures? I am hoping it's good > enough to be > basically diffraction-limited, and by reputation it's possibly the > finest 1:1 > lens that covers a full 35mm frame in the world (the Ultra Micro > nikkors are amazing, > there are models that are diffraction-limited at f/1.2 and even f/1.0, > but almost none > of these exotic models do 1:1 or cover a 35mm frame, and some of them > only do specialised > wavelengths of light (UV, etc). > > I know the 80/4.0 is bloody good, but I would like to satisfy my > boyish curiosity with > some technical information on just "how" good it is. > > Anybody? > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 13:49:20 2009 Received: (qmail 3141 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 11:49:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 11:49:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943B5E18255 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794E0E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C219E38D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:49:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8485E19E34C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:49:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 04:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtK9m-0002mF-An for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:49:10 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <8CC101DCB23492B-1DF0-1F01B@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> <49D97E313BA44C45B36FA5FD0965A967@user4fec106f50> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: <0236A65BE45A4EAA8C7B8A5F257A4FCA@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49D97E313BA44C45B36FA5FD0965A967@user4fec106f50> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpCChtisv0N9X2yTpSObQI1xTRCxgABCwggAB+DaCA= X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 30/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t Champagne Colour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 13:49:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac49740245822517112723 Assuming that you are in UK, David, I recommend that you go to Halfords with your 4Ti, and ask them to look through the Rover metallics to match the shade, and the BMW metallics to match the metallic chip size. My recollection is that Rover has (had) a good match for the colour, but the "grain" was too coarse, but BMW metallics are much finer - they just need to use the "wrong" metallic additive for the Rover paint. The automotice paints are intended to have a lacquer finish, which would give a high-gloss transparent coat - I think it's unnecessary, but you may feel otherwise. Of course, since the Rovers in question were Honda designs, there may be truth in any such urban myth. Piers -----Original Message----- From: David Bell [mailto:deebel@googlemail.com] Sent: 30 September 2009 21:49 To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion' Subject: [OM] OM4t Champagne Colour Leaving the debate on whether to touch up paintwork or leave to one side, can anyone advise the correct paint? Is it an urban myth that it is a Honda auto colour? Thanks Dave _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 14:11:11 2009 Received: (qmail 11324 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 12:11:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 12:11:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CF9E18279 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B924FE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F4919E475 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ABC19E456 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:11:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 08:11:04 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:11:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC46413.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:10:59 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC221340200004E00029732@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <4AC2603F.6010306@sfr.fr> <99A32C13-2E5F-4AF4-A382-35020B9067AC@frozenlight.eu> <41273F1E-AAE0-4C81-B8B2-51235122732E@people.net.au> <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 14:11:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac49c5f78755683411216 I always thought marks in the road aided in speed monitoring from aircraft. Clay >>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 5:32 AM >>> As I understand it, the lines on the road are not to indicate the presence of the camera to the motorist, but are part of the measurement system for some models of speed-check camera. I assume the photo/flash shows the movement of the car and they count how many lines have been crossed in a certain time period. Others may know more of the details... br jez On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even indicted [sic] with a series > of lines on the road the zone where the speed was measured - quite > dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the limit just for a > few yards. > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 14:26:29 2009 Received: (qmail 13547 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 12:26:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 12:26:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D92E18279 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82064E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8934AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:26:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C6F34AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ogreve@millennics.com whitelisted) Received: from ns1.nl-inter.net (unknown [83.172.146.29]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3358 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2009 14:27:30 +0200 Received: from rt25bb146-89-44.routit.net (HELO ?192.168.10.2?) (89.146.25.44) by ns1.nl-inter.net with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 14:27:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4AC49FE9.1000303@millennics.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:26:17 +0200 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <4AC3B734.9080400@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC3E28B.9060606@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC41CE8.3040008@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC41CE8.3040008@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 14:26:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac49ff5166451258626592 Hi all, Wow, all of this information is excellent and a BIG eye opener! I had figured the WB to work differently, and would never have guessed (without RTFM-ing, that is) the implementation as explained by Chuck. Good to know all this! I think I'll give Chuck's proposed approach a go: set it to "daylight" WB (and override that when shooting indoors, without flash), and to RAW + JPEG mode. The downside: my smart media slot is damaged (one of the pins broke off), so I'll have to make-do with the XD slot, and last time I checked, XD cards have a max. of 2GB. Anyway, that'll mean more often downloading to the computer then... Anyway: I must say that I was previously almost always very satisfied with the results my C2020 Zoom gave me, and that this has much less often been the case for the E-500. Good to know some of the possible reasons for that! I now know what to experiment with, and in which way, so I shall do so, and I'm curious as to the results. Cheers! Olafo -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 14:30:24 2009 Received: (qmail 487 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 12:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 12:30:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792ABE18244 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64970E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C475019D9D5 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E052F19E501 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n91CU7kq017691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:30:09 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:30:03 +1000 Message-ID: <001a01ca4292$e7627bd0$b6277370$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpCY6Yj4PaKEMTGSTC8a4CUTMHcYgAJc9YgAAGVdAA= Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 14:30:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4a0e077011560218263 Just for an interesting comparison: Same set up substituting a reversed Minolta C.E.ROKKOR-X 30/2.8 @f5.6 for the Zuiko 80/4. http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-B-011-a.jpg ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Harridge [mailto:wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 9:34 PM > To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion' > Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? > > Dawid, > > I don't have the numbers but I happened to be using mine tonight: > > E-510, OM Bellows, Zuiko Auto Macro 80mm + 170mm CU lens, ISO 400, > 1/125, > small direct flash at about 60cm & 45 degrees. > Only resize and sharpen of jpg. > Subject is the back of a teaspoon, the "P" in EPNS is ~1.5mm high. > > Minimum bellows extension ~50mm between flange on body and flange on > lens, > f16. > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-002-a.jpg > > > Maximum bellows extension ~210mm, f11 (Flash bumped up to full power > for > this one) > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-011-a.jpg > > > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dawid Loubser [mailto:dawidl@solms.co.za] > > Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 4:52 PM > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Subject: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? > > > > Hi All, > > > > Just for interests sake, does anybody know what the actual resolving > > power > > of the 80/4.0 Macro is at the various apertures? I am hoping it's > good > > enough to be > > basically diffraction-limited, and by reputation it's possibly the > > finest 1:1 > > lens that covers a full 35mm frame in the world (the Ultra Micro > > nikkors are amazing, > > there are models that are diffraction-limited at f/1.2 and even > f/1.0, > > but almost none > > of these exotic models do 1:1 or cover a 35mm frame, and some of them > > only do specialised > > wavelengths of light (UV, etc). > > > > I know the 80/4.0 is bloody good, but I would like to satisfy my > > boyish curiosity with > > some technical information on just "how" good it is. > > > > Anybody? > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 14:37:42 2009 Received: (qmail 16438 invoked by uid 0); 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1 Oct 2009 12:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 12:55:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21892E181CC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F831E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4896334AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 08:55:07 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:55:07 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC46E68.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:55:04 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC221340200004E00029732@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <4AC2603F.6010306@sfr.fr> <99A32C13-2E5F-4AF4-A382-35020B9067AC@frozenlight.eu> <41273F1E-AAE0-4C81-B8B2-51235122732E@people.net.au> <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> <4AC46413.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910010536x24e4eda6ma116e636ac8542fd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010536x24e4eda6ma116e636ac8542fd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 14:55:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4a6b382151946193717 I didn't think Vascar needed spots. Clay >>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 8:36 AM >>> The lines we're talking about are about a dozen or two lines spaced about a metre apart. Yup, for aircraft spotting there are lines much more widely spaced (half-mile?) For Vascar speed measuring the UK also uses big white spots. Jez On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Clay Nichols wrote: > I always thought marks in the road aided in speed monitoring from aircraft. > Clay > >>>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 5:32 AM >>> > As I understand it, the lines on the road are not to indicate the > presence of the camera to the motorist, but are part of the > measurement system for some models of speed-check camera. I assume > the photo/flash shows the movement of the car and they count how many > lines have been crossed in a certain time period. Others may know > more of the details... > br > jez > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even indicted [sic] with a series >> of lines on the road the zone where the speed was measured - quite >> dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the limit just for a >> few yards. >> Andrew Fildes > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 15:41:54 2009 Received: (qmail 1733 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 13:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 13:41:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08649E182A6 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED96E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8338534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:41:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B50D34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <18556164.3831254405281218.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 620 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:54:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC491F6.6090409@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:41:43 +0200 References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4AC491F6.6090409@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 15:41:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4b1a2170469730998309 I saw that, yes. Unfortunately sounds a little "fuzzy" to me, I'd just love to see some "real" numbers / test methodology. On 01 Oct 2009, at 1:26 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I dunno but there's a relative test at the bottom of this page > which says the auto version of the 80/4 is slightly better than the > Apo-Rodagon D 75mm f/4 1:1 macro. > > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 15:51:33 2009 Received: (qmail 91 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 13:51:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 13:51:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D6EE182B0 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7906E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9560B34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618CE34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:51:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <15482377.3841254405861593.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 408 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:04:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:51:25 +0200 References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 15:51:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4b3e5290381220213263 Thanks wayne, for posting an example I have no doubts that those images look sharp at full resolution, although by stopping the lens down to f/11 or f/16 you are nowhere near exploiting the full resolution of this lens (of course, at the benefit of gaining DOF). According to you guys (and my own tests start to confirm this, although insights are slower when working with film and non-solid tripods) some of these lenses (e.g. the 20mm f/3.5) has such high resolution so as to be already diffraction-limited at wide open aperture. I must admit, I am totally, totally blown away at the performance of the little 20mm wide open, I think I need to do testing with even finer-grained film (e.g. Pan F) to pull everything out of the image it projects. I was simply wondering if the 80mm is also diffraction-limited wide open already, or if does need stopping down (if so, it can't be far). I would just love to see some real numbers on this. In the longer term, personal experimentation will of course tell all, but I basically want to determine whether, for some experimental images I'd like to make, if I were to use an 80mm f/4.0, at what aperture it produces optimum resolution, and what that resolution is, and whether I can extract more resolution than what I can capture on Pan F by using of of the super-high resolution B&W films by Rollei, Efke, etc. I am talking about 20x30in or so optical prints of quite flat subjects, so no need to stop down m assively. (stretching the capabilities of 35mm, yes - but it's the sweetheart format of Macro for film shooters) regards, Dawid On 01 Oct 2009, at 1:34 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Dawid, > > I don't have the numbers but I happened to be using mine tonight: > > E-510, OM Bellows, Zuiko Auto Macro 80mm + 170mm CU lens, ISO 400, > 1/125, > small direct flash at about 60cm & 45 degrees. > Only resize and sharpen of jpg. > Subject is the back of a teaspoon, the "P" in EPNS is ~1.5mm high. > > Minimum bellows extension ~50mm between flange on body and flange on > lens, > f16. > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-002-a.jpg > > > Maximum bellows extension ~210mm, f11 (Flash bumped up to full power > for > this one) > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-A-011-a.jpg > > > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dawid Loubser [mailto:dawidl@solms.co.za] >> Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 4:52 PM >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just for interests sake, does anybody know what the actual resolving >> power >> of the 80/4.0 Macro is at the various apertures? I am hoping it's >> good >> enough to be >> basically diffraction-limited, and by reputation it's possibly the >> finest 1:1 >> lens that covers a full 35mm frame in the world (the Ultra Micro >> nikkors are amazing, >> there are models that are diffraction-limited at f/1.2 and even f/ >> 1.0, >> but almost none >> of these exotic models do 1:1 or cover a 35mm frame, and some of them >> only do specialised >> wavelengths of light (UV, etc). >> >> I know the 80/4.0 is bloody good, but I would like to satisfy my >> boyish curiosity with >> some technical information on just "how" good it is. >> >> Anybody? >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 15:58:41 2009 Received: (qmail 31836 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 13:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 13:58:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F44E182A2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69D8E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB95934AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BFE34AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31360699.3851254406288106.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 699 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:11:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <001a01ca4292$e7627bd0$b6277370$@com.au> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:58:31 +0200 References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> <001a01ca4292$e7627bd0$b6277370$@com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 15:58:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4b591163032439112457 I have also produced some very high magnification with reversed high- quality lenses - Interestingly enough (and before I was the recipient of a gift 20/3.5) the highest resolution/magnification I've personally gotten was a reversed Zuiko 24/2.0 stuck to my 135/3.5 :-) Quite extreme. Although few lenses are flat-fielded enough to look good into the corners, unlike the 20/3.5 which is perfect even at f/3.5 right into the corner. (because it also projects an image circle large enough to cover 4x5in film, so "corner" of the 35mm frame is still pretty close to the centre of the image.) Did you guys know the 20/3.5 can cover 4x5in film at its optimum working magnification? Also, my pet project sometime will be to find a way to stick it onto my RB67 - 6x7cm at 12x magnification, with vibration-less leaf shutter sounds like heaven to me, assuming I can focus the thing. Anyway, any reversed lens is going to absolutely suck compared to the 80/4.0 at 1:1 magnification, even though they will do better at very high magnification. So... as per my earlier request - does anybody have some real resolution / MTF figures for the 80/4.0? And, while they are at it, size of image circle? I don't think it'll be as extreme as the 20mm, but I wonder if it'll cover 6x7cm? On 01 Oct 2009, at 2:30 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Just for an interesting comparison: > > Same set up substituting a reversed Minolta C.E.ROKKOR-X 30/2.8 > @f5.6 for > the Zuiko 80/4. > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20091001-B-011-a.jpg > > > ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 16:08:27 2009 Received: (qmail 26124 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 14:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 14:08:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30404E18279 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D007E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B4F34AC029 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8D134AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:08:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.114]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQU004CB9XFDI39@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:08:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC4B7C8.6040205@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:08:08 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9f07ac840910010232q32eee5e5y670b47bf393e9f9b@mail.gmail.com> <49094.97586.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9f07ac840910010240n69145a2enafd8e08c33cff990@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 16:08:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4b7db289651258626592 The local paper showed a picture of the interior of the camera box. It had a Nikon D3x inside. I predict stolen boxes in the future. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Jez Cunningham wrote: > So is there a double flash? Or is the shutter speed such that it > records a blur? (we're almost On Topic!) > Jez > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, JOHN DUGGAN > wrote: >> Correct Jez..nothing to do with warning the motorist..but a "rule". Counting the stripes you have traveled shows if you are over the limit. >> These particular cameras always do the rear view. >> Regards >> John Duggan, >> Wales, UK >> >> >> --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Jez Cunningham wrote: >> >>> From: Jez Cunningham >>> Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 10:32 AM >>> As I understand it, the lines on the >>> road are not to indicate the >>> presence of the camera to the motorist, but are part of >>> the >>> measurement system for some models of speed-check >>> camera. I assume >>> the photo/flash shows the movement of the car and they >>> count how many >>> lines have been crossed in a certain time period. >>> Others may know >>> more of the details... >>> br >>> jez >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Fildes >>> wrote: >>>> Yes - I noticed that in some places, they even >>> indicted [sic] with a series >>>> of lines on the road the zone where the speed was >>> measured - quite >>>> dangerous as cars braked suddenly to get under the >>> limit just for a >>>> few yards. >>>> Andrew Fildes >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 16:11:56 2009 Received: (qmail 3357 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 14:11:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 14:11:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97118E182A9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AE4E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5774934AC02B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C97B34AC02A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.114]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQU00EOLA3L06WI@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC4B8A7.8060504@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:11:51 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <380-22009922915023969@earthlink.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 16:11:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4b8ac211981220213263 All the lenses I mentioned were being used as possible loaners for professional photographers. They show little wear, the ones I inspected had excellent glass, not dents or dings. All lenses have SMALL ID numbers etched into lens hood or filter ring. I think a minor annoyance considering how difficult it is to find some of these. All the big lenses have their metal boxes. Did you know the shipping weight of the 250 f2 is around 17 lbs.? Heavy "em effer". ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html I may have access to items like: 180 f2, (3) 180 2.8, (2) 100 f2, 250 f2, (2) 350 2.8, 500mm f8, 600 f6.5, 24 shift, 1.4x, T28 single and twin, (3) 35-80, (2) 35-70 f3.5, (2) 50 1.2, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2. We haven't worked out the financing on this yet (if at all). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 16:22:19 2009 Received: (qmail 6601 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 14:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 14:22:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F896E181CD for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774C1E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560D834AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0655934AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n91EM5On025340 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:22:05 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d45.541b39d3 (65097) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:22:01 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 16:22:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4bb1b125604877110844 In a message dated 10/1/2009 12:19:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ftog@threeshoes.net writes: That's a hefty old "deductible" (we call it "excess" in the UK), Bill. Is that normal? Yes, it is pretty normal and the higher the deductible the lower the premium. When I started, last century, almost everyone had a $250 deductible. After 25 years of inflation the $1000 is not much higher in real dollars than the $250 in yesteryear.. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 17:13:19 2009 Received: (qmail 28429 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 15:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 15:13:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CEBE1822C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7BDE240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5519119EB1B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AC119EB28 for ; 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Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so219099bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.144 with SMTP id k16mr126133hbe.103.1254410988754; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:29:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1771431434.456801254409993368.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1771431434.456801254409993368.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:29:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: afc374cbfa0ca27f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 17:30:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4cafa135981234514069 > > >. disproportionate number of difficult drivers in the UK cruise > >around in big fat Audis - especially those new ones with the > >fairground headlights. > A little misleading, though. The UK versions usually have the tiny motors in them. The big motors are sold on the continent and in the USA. In the UK, you pay through the nose for every cubic millimeter of displacement. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 17:34:01 2009 Received: (qmail 4863 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 15:34:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 15:34:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FBDE18236 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C24E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685C634AC029 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439A934AC028 for ; 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1 Oct 2009 15:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 15:35:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD6BE182B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5617EE240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4470E34AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8D534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1581962fgg.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr113569hbe.83.1254411280147; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:34:40 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fdb762aba9ff45e7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 17:35:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4cc2a291465368819438 Here is Gary Reese's lens test for the 80 F4 lens: http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=254&Itemid=97 In comparison, here is the 90 F2 lens: http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=258&Itemid=97 And the 50 F2 macro: http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=246&Itemid=97 And the star of the show the 135 F4.5 lens: http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=266&Itemid=97 AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 17:40:25 2009 Received: (qmail 18394 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 15:40:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 15:40:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585DE182AA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DA3E24AA2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C84319EC41 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8263819EC40 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:40:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so188084fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.136 with SMTP id c8mr112018hba.148.1254411617254; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:40:17 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 75960d0c4c204bf2 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 17:40:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4cd6965971258626592 > > The UK and continent also get a lot of very potent diesels that don't see > the light of day over here..... > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep with the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the world, but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% transmission failures. Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. IDIOTS! It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for Chrysler or GM. Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. DON'T get me started. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:11:36 2009 Received: (qmail 21540 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:11:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:11:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AEBE181B9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6742E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6A434AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DAA34AC028 for ; 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Goes real fast. Clay >>> Ken Norton 10/1/2009 11:40 AM >>> > > The UK and continent also get a lot of very potent diesels that don't see > the light of day over here..... > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep with the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the world, but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% transmission failures. Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. IDIOTS! It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for Chrysler or GM. Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. DON'T get me started. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:20:49 2009 Received: (qmail 12037 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:20:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDA2E182AA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1B3E240B4 for ; 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 18:39:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4db31110311946193717 In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:43:25 2009 Received: (qmail 22751 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:43:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358D1E182A1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622D4E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4811F1CD48E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67E61CD486 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 12:43:19 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:43:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4A3DF.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:43:11 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4AC49E05.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910010920r5915f398uf10fc523318de167@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010920r5915f398uf10fc523318de167@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 18:43:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4dc2d222462517112723 I have had it up to 150 mph; but, it should top out at about 185. I was running out of road and courage about the same time. >>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 12:20 PM >>> How fast (on roads near you)? On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Anybody want to hear about my Cobra? 500 HP. 6 speed manual. Goes real fast. > Clay -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:48:50 2009 Received: (qmail 19670 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:48:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20618E181BA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBB0E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3451CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:48:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5411CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 12:48:43 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:48:43 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4A525.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:48:37 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "1" References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 18:48:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4dd72303102517112723 I think the spider may have a leg span that is out of your DOF. Wind and breathing puts it all into motion. The second spider is a great abstract. I like the prism effect of the web. Clay >>> Mike Lazzari 10/1/2009 12:39 PM >>> In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:55:06 2009 Received: (qmail 31992 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:55:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9016E182A0 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A588E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CC819EC5E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944419EC39 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jtimpe@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nRK41c0031HpZEsA2Uv1Wu; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:55:01 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.99]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nUv11c00428HZcC8aUv1kr; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:55:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) From: JTimpe@comcast.net To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <1520144303.504111254416101378.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [67.183.212.99] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? 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But as an RX-7 lover, I prefer cornering over speed, but having unleashed ponies ain't all bad. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 18:58:27 2009 Received: (qmail 27548 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 16:58:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 16:58:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298C7E182B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D27E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727BA19ED52 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1C19EC39 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so291595bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:58:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.65 with SMTP id k1mr182817bkd.111.1254416295990; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:58:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:15 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910010958j377dc90eoeb3480451ae2903d@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 18:58:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4dfb3188296107113666 Nice photos Mike. I find macro in the field to be very difficult. If someone would make a white tent to work in as a diffuser and wind break, I'd buy it. Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the > telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, > poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even > approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:01:58 2009 Received: (qmail 13770 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:01:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:01:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A03E18214 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B36E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B484D19ED8A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:01:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E9519ED87 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so294377bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.153.215 with SMTP id l23mr181815bkw.135.1254416510325; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:01:50 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011001s3a00426y3f7332b2e41fd9ae@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:01:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e08684862517112723 AG, Not sure why you would want a Jeep diesel. As you point out they are notoriously unreliable and don't get much better mileage than the gas powered v6. Is that little bit of extra torque rally worth the hassle? Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > The UK and continent also get a lot of very potent diesels that don't see > > the light of day over here..... > > > > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep > with > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the world, > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% > transmission failures. > > Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > IDIOTS! > > It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for > Chrysler or GM. > > Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could > achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. > > DON'T get me started. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:09:02 2009 Received: (qmail 8350 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:09:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:11:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e2a441487801554290 Yikes Clay. Careful you don't end up on your own table. Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Clay Nichols < Clay.Nichols@palmettohealth.org> wrote: > I have had it up to 150 mph; but, it should top out at about 185. I was > running out of road and courage about the same time. > > >>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 12:20 PM >>> > How fast (on roads near you)? > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Clay Nichols > wrote: > > Anybody want to hear about my Cobra? 500 HP. 6 speed manual. Goes real > fast. > > Clay > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:14:40 2009 Received: (qmail 32339 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:14:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1FEE18065 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10023E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB75219EDAB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4319EDB5 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 13:14:34 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:14:34 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4AB30.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:14:24 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4AC49E05.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910010920r5915f398uf10fc523318de167@mail.gmail.com> <4AC4A3DF.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:14:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e380208441076813867 I don't think it is all that quick off of the line...or maybe I am not quick off of the line. 1st and 2nd gears exist to get to 3rd and 4th where the power is. It will put you uncomfortably back in your seat. Then you got two more gears to run through. The car cruises with ease at 90-120..it is like surfing on asphalt. It comes with a supply of speeding tickets that you date and sign and send in to the local law enforcement agency. Clay >>> Ken Norton 10/1/2009 12:55 PM >>> It isn't so much about how fast it will go, but how quickly it will get fast. But as an RX-7 lover, I prefer cornering over speed, but having unleashed ponies ain't all bad. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:15:02 2009 Received: (qmail 19915 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:15:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68389E182B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D0AE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8490E19EDB4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DB619ED8E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so137845fga.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:14:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.153 with SMTP id 25mr110814hbj.13.1254417295290; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:14:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910011001s3a00426y3f7332b2e41fd9ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <14883a8b0910011001s3a00426y3f7332b2e41fd9ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:14:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69770830b1fb7967 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:15:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e396254041234514069 > > Not sure why you would want a Jeep diesel. As you point out they are > notoriously unreliable and don't get much better mileage than the gas > powered v6. Is that little bit of extra torque rally worth the hassle? > Actually, the diesel version is able to get up to 6-8 mpg better fuel mileage. The unreliability had nothing to do with the engine, just the transmissions. The global version has the manual transmission and it is much more reliable. This is a classic case of the marketing department dictating to engineering what they will offer to us stupid Americans that don't have a clue how to drive a stick. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:18:13 2009 Received: (qmail 21020 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:18:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:18:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A9EE182B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C9FE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5236A19EDBF for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D71F19EDAE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 13:18:01 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:18:00 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4ABFE.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:17:50 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4AC49E05.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910010920r5915f398uf10fc523318de167@mail.gmail.com> <4AC4A3DF.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <14883a8b0910011010m1670a1a1re35452fecdfa4264@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910011010m1670a1a1re35452fecdfa4264@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:18:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e455183221950411718 You don't think I haven't thought about that? Or about the headline in the State paper? I have a personal relationship with most of the patrolmen in the area. Other than family, the next largest group of folks to get rides are the cops. I have been pulled just so the deputy could see the car. Clay >>> Charles Geilfuss 10/1/2009 1:10 PM >>> Yikes Clay. Careful you don't end up on your own table. Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Clay Nichols < Clay.Nichols@palmettohealth.org> wrote: > I have had it up to 150 mph; but, it should top out at about 185. I was > running out of road and courage about the same time. > > >>> Jez Cunningham 10/1/2009 12:20 PM >>> > How fast (on roads near you)? > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Clay Nichols > wrote: > > Anybody want to hear about my Cobra? 500 HP. 6 speed manual. Goes real > fast. > > Clay > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:21:04 2009 Received: (qmail 27940 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:21:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:21:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D70FE182B0 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C71119ED8B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD5A19EC10 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 13:20:55 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:20:55 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4ACAC.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:20:44 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> <14883a8b0910010958j377dc90eoeb3480451ae2903d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910010958j377dc90eoeb3480451ae2903d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:21:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4e500235321076813867 Charlie I saw one several years ago. The front part was white and the back black to mute the background. It was on the smallish side...mainly for low lying objects. Maybe in Outdoor Photography. Clay >>> Charles Geilfuss 10/1/2009 12:58 PM >>> Nice photos Mike. I find macro in the field to be very difficult. If someone would make a white tent to work in as a diffuser and wind break, I'd buy it. Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the > telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, > poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even > approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:44:17 2009 Received: (qmail 27740 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:44:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98898E181B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4281E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41691CD49A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EA81CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nUSn1c0091ZMdJ4AAVkDzq; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:44:13 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nVrA1c00J2Axmu48cVrAdh; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:51:10 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:44:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:44:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4ea7193051342116753 Back in the '70s, I knew a guy in New Mexico that had one of the neatest jeeps I ever saw. It had a Perkins diesel in it. He had picked it up at an auction from the Jeep factory. It had been rigged to test the diesel in the Jeep, and after the tests, had just sat in a lot until someone decided to sell it. It was really a nice setup. At that same time, my boss had a Jeep Tuxedo Park. It had a column shift on it. The only one of these that I ever saw. Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep > with > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the > world, > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% > transmission failures. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 19:54:12 2009 Received: (qmail 21474 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 17:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 17:54:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778A2E182AA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB3FE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9283A1CD4AB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:54:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8101CD4A7 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:54:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so318531fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:54:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.5.207 with SMTP id 15mr245016bkw.89.1254419643366; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:54:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <14883a8b0910011001s3a00426y3f7332b2e41fd9ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:54:02 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011054u27350f7ftc1d103c6e7967449@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 19:54:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4ecc4104656789618724 Did a little Googling and found a blog site devoted to Liberty diesels. Seems the torque converter is the offending part and is does have a very high failure rate. The rub is that the replacement converter doesn't lock up until around 60 mph (instead of the OEM converter 45) which for most drivers erased about 5 mpg. As Rosanne Rosannadana used to say, "It's always something". Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > Not sure why you would want a Jeep diesel. As you point out they are > > notoriously unreliable and don't get much better mileage than the gas > > powered v6. Is that little bit of extra torque rally worth the hassle? > > > > > Actually, the diesel version is able to get up to 6-8 mpg better fuel > mileage. The unreliability had nothing to do with the engine, just the > transmissions. The global version has the manual transmission and it is > much > more reliable. > > This is a classic case of the marketing department dictating to engineering > what they will offer to us stupid Americans that don't have a clue how to > drive a stick. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:02:11 2009 Received: (qmail 22988 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:02:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:02:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109E1E182CC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93456E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878E34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EDD34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so375402yxe.22 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.5.2 with SMTP id 2mr2741692ybe.234.1254420124884; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:02:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:02:04 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910011102r48c5c130pa413743aab53d3f4@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:02:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4eea3143056789618724 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the > telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, > poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even > approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg Very pleasant images, Mike. Thanks for sharing Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:16:00 2009 Received: (qmail 19657 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:15:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B62AE182A2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D26E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C234AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E511234AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A1E4615E8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:42:11 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:15:52 +0100 Message-Id: <499944E4-0325-46E3-A5AD-CE866D73794F@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:16:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f1e010739752976205 Yes, they could do with diesels, Ken. But if the machines in the UK are anything to go by they could do with employing someone to design a better looking vehicle. The latest I've seen in the UK is the "Patriot" which looks like a practice by a 1st-year design student. I know I've said it before, but these things look appalling ... Chris On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Ken Norton wrote: > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a > Jeep with > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the > world, > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted > in 100% > transmission failures. > > Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > IDIOTS! > > It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for > Chrysler or GM. > > Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could > achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:19:46 2009 Received: (qmail 27194 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:19:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F006E18228 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3DEE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3334AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9495834AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8396B461602 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:59 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:19:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:19:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f2c260081744846740 Mr Clarkson acting less the prat than normal ... :-) ... he is very good when it comes to war heroes, though. Chris On 1 Oct 2009, at 17:11, Jez Cunningham wrote: > I still like this from Top Gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk > (even tho' some of it is questionable) > Jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:21:58 2009 Received: (qmail 29763 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:21:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:21:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC53E181B2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76499E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661F81CD492 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:21:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1853C1CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:21:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D333A4615F2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:08 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910011008t21319995o4a7f81510dda6e1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:21:49 +0100 Message-Id: <79D52E8F-DA15-43B9-B980-10F92612B01D@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4AC49E05.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910010920r5915f398uf10fc523318de167@mail.gmail.com> <4AC4A3DF.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> <9f07ac840910011008t21319995o4a7f81510dda6e1a@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:21:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f346277351946193717 I've had a Tornado down a valley in Canada (heading south to Harp Lake) at 580-odd knots at 150ft. That wasn't scary, it was thrilling ... ... but then I was much younger :-) Chris - - who also loves his little 2ltr beemer. On 1 Oct 2009, at 18:08, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Phew! I had my little Beemer 2 litre diesel at ~137 on the autobahn > (218kph on the gps) and it was pretty scary - it felt great but I was > scared what other cars might do in front of me! > jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:22:55 2009 Received: (qmail 24820 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:22:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F88E181D8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9119AE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A6019EDCC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:22:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC51519EDCB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so268756ewy.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.19.5 with SMTP id m5mr319556wem.177.1254421368771; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:22:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7d9587d1032854d Message-ID: <9f07ac840910011122r17977e68i4222f61b626abd7a@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:22:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f37f223791612113968 I second that - he can be as big a prat as he wants as long as he keeps supporting our boys (and girls, especially my little girl) Jez, proud father... On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Mr Clarkson acting less the prat than normal ... :-) > > ... he is very good when it comes to war heroes, though. > > Chris > > On 1 Oct 2009, at 17:11, Jez Cunningham wrote: > >> I still like this from Top Gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk >> (even tho' some of it is questionable) >> Jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:23:53 2009 Received: (qmail 16852 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:23:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:23:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D25E181B9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD47CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA55E1CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE1619EDCB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so355111bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.5 with SMTP id j5mr291220bkd.5.1254421398452; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <499944E4-0325-46E3-A5AD-CE866D73794F@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <499944E4-0325-46E3-A5AD-CE866D73794F@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:23:18 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011123j1a262c96p7e8146b9cafaf0a3@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:23:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f3b9271305368819438 Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but some of that is due to the vehicle's heritage. It is a direct descendent of the original Willy Jeep of WWII fame. The line was sullied however when both Jeep and AMC were subsumed by Crysler. The AMC DNA was not good for the line; they created what were arguably the ugliest cars on the planet. Charlie (ducking for cover) On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Yes, they could do with diesels, Ken. But if the machines in the UK > are anything to go by they could do with employing someone to design a > better looking vehicle. The latest I've seen in the UK is the > "Patriot" which looks like a practice by a 1st-year design student. > > I know I've said it before, but these things look appalling ... > > Chris > > > On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Ken Norton wrote: > > > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a > > Jeep with > > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the > > world, > > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted > > in 100% > > transmission failures. > > > > Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > > transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > > transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > > > IDIOTS! > > > > It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for > > Chrysler or GM. > > > > Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could > > achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:25:52 2009 Received: (qmail 21115 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:25:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:25:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13CDE1822B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2767E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EA334AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54A234AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so347279fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.155 with SMTP id h27mr267678bkh.55.1254421527284; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:25:27 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:25:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f430146321006886880 Chris, Could you translate "prat" from English to American please. I'm not familiar with the term. Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Mr Clarkson acting less the prat than normal ... :-) > > ... he is very good when it comes to war heroes, though. > > Chris > > On 1 Oct 2009, at 17:11, Jez Cunningham wrote: > > > I still like this from Top Gear > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk > > (even tho' some of it is questionable) > > Jez > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:31:11 2009 Received: (qmail 2555 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:31:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:31:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFB6E18214 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52145E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB91CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2921CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n91IV0C3016271 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:31:00 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c36.5b39ef1e (65097) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:30:58 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:30:57 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:31:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f56f159181220213263 Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this case it is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. It will now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy camper. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:32:15 2009 Received: (qmail 30205 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:32:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:32:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DCCE18277 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370891CD49A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9171CD494 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU0092NM5EKJ70@asmtp023.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1DDFFA2F-87B6-48F2-9372-3FAE4994F733@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <294759.31335.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:32:01 +0200 References: <294759.31335.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:32:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f5af297487801554290 Tim, Coalinga is close yes! Along the 5 runs several power lines and a substation is not far from = Coalinga. Thank you for the interesting spots. I guess the last two is = on my short list, as they are a bit closer than the others. / Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 12.12 skrev Tim Hughes: > Johan, > If you truly are half way between SF and LA on the 5, you = > would probably be little south of Coalinga? Coalinga is wired = > up like crazy, for the next big earthquake there , which is somewhat = > overdue! > > Yosemite and Kings Canyon are within striking distance, especially = > for two seperate weekend trips. There are other nice forest areas = > accessible by roads to pumped storage dams etc in the southern = > Sierras, but not quite as spectacular. > > A long drive from there, but really nice and photogenic is Joshua = > Tree, which is inland from LA, but you would drive to Bakersfield = > and skirt around avoiding LA. It is 8~9hr drive from the Bay Area, = > so maybe 6hrs from where you would be. > > Two other places not too far distant are: Los padres forest in the = > coastal range, specifically Arroyo Seco park (off HWY 101 near = > Greenfield) which is very,very nice river hiking/swimming if you = > like the outdoors. The second is pinnacles national monument, dry = > but very nice hiking and pleasant rock climbing if you like that. = > To get to those 2 places, may take longer than it looks on the map, = > because of the secondary roads needed, to get over from the 5. > > Tim Hughes > > > --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jeff Keller wrote: > > From: Jeff Keller > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:08 PM > > If you are traveling soon your timing probably isn't very good. = > Towards LA > there are some very nice springtime flower spots. I've seen fantastic > springtime photos from Gorman. (similar to > http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html ) > > The California Poppy Preserve is surely far from its peak and located > significantly east of 5 but ... > http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=3D627 > > There are good migratory bird spots out in the central valley but = > you're too > early. Gray Lodge which is too far north is pretty unattractive most = > of the > year but when the geese are there it can be pretty amazing. > http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/region2/graylodge/index.html > > I headed south a couple years ago to check out some of the wildlife = > areas > near Los Banos hoping they would be like Gray Lodge. My timing was = > off and > it was very disappointing. At the right time of the right year many = > of the > wildlife areas can be very worthwhile but otherwise about as = > attractive as > semi-abandoned farm land. > > The DFG website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/index.html will = > give you > some names of places to look up. > > Guessing from your comments you'll be in Kern County > http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D= 15&sear > chtext=3DKern > or Fresno County (which only has Millerton Lake listed under state = > parks so > maybe street photography?) > http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D= 10&sear > chtext=3DFresno > > Your trip is probably too early for fall colors nor does California = > come to > mind when you think fall colors. > http://www.calphoto.com/fall.htm > > In addition to Jim's mention of Yosemite, King's Canyon is good = > whenever you > can get into it. It doesn't take much hiking to get high into the = > Sierras. > But "not far or reasonable drive" by California standards often = > includes a > 200 mile radius. ;-) > > Jeff Keller > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [mailto:jmalmstrom@mac.com] > > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:33:43 2009 Received: (qmail 23177 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:33:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:33:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA50E18255 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202CDE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B8A1CD494 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:33:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB73D1CD49C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU00L6LM7VRT60@asmtp028.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <72125904-5967-4BE3-B41A-BE2CCA19D93F@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <7ac27f4f0909301515g6a81f655j8d347b08ce763087@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:33:30 +0200 References: <7ac27f4f0909301515g6a81f655j8d347b08ce763087@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:33:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f607249201744846740 I guess you are correct Richard. Not much to see around there. I like = the coast so I might go there. Thanks, / Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 00.15 skrev Richard Man: > You are in the middle of the Central Valley. Nothing to see there :-) > > Head west to the coast. At least Route 1/101 should be pretty good. > > 2009/9/30 Johan Malmstr=F6m : >> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. >> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along >> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. >> >> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? >> >> / Johan >> -- > > > > > -- = > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: > http://rfman.wordpress.com > // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:34:34 2009 Received: (qmail 3187 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:34:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:34:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F34CE182A2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A9CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02A71CD49F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595471CD4A4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU00L6LM7VRT60@asmtp028.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <8DFF7A2D-3B86-468F-8FF1-6443F46F3BE2@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <4AC3A2F70200004E0002992B@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:34:27 +0200 References: <4AC3A2F70200004E0002992B@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:34:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f63a204542517112723 Wine doesn't sound that bad. I should look in to that. Thanks, / Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 00.27 skrev Clay Nichols: > Your not taking Hwy 1/101? 5 takes your through the armpit of = > California.... and some wine country, too. > Clay > >>>> Johan Malmstr=F6m 09/30/09 5:24 PM >>> > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:36:37 2009 Received: (qmail 20757 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:36:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80802E18056 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E438E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCB71CD49C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6D41CD4A9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:35:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:35:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU00IH7MBE7280@asmtp027.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <9611050B-17AB-443C-B7E3-432302FAC20B@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <4AC3DD77.5070706@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:35:37 +0200 References: <4AC3DD77.5070706@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:36:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f6b5178581357919056 That's a good general advice Chuck, I'll remeber that. Thanks, Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 00.36 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Check Google street view for the area you're going to. Wander around > and it will show you what it looks like. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. >> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along >> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. >> >> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? >> >> / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:43:08 2009 Received: (qmail 11249 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:43:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE7BE18256 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F3DE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983781CD497 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CBA1CD48E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU00FUXMIB5Y70@asmtp029.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:39:47 +0200 References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:43:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f83c234661879814018 Fresno is not far but actually closer to Coalinga. Yosemite would be nice, maybe maybe I can strech my schedule for a day = there. Thanks Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.09 skrev Jim Couch: > Johan, > > Sounds suspiciously like Fresno. If that is the case (or near Fresno) > and you have a car, you can easily do a day trip to Yosemite Valley. > > Jim Couch > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. >> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along >> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. >> >> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? >> >> / Johan >> > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:44:50 2009 Received: (qmail 30946 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:44:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E76E18256 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F159E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C7E34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B701834AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.10] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KQU006DWMQ1I450@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <002701ca4233$c02eac50$408c04f0$@com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:44:24 +0200 References: <002701ca4233$c02eac50$408c04f0$@com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to California X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:44:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f8a2190273900897491 Jeff, thanks for your mail. Well yes it seems like I'll be in traveling = within two weeks from now I guess I will be to early. Thanks, Johan 1 okt 2009 kl. 03.08 skrev Jeff Keller: > If you are traveling soon your timing probably isn't very good. = > Towards LA > there are some very nice springtime flower spots. I've seen fantastic > springtime photos from Gorman. (similar to > http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html ) > > The California Poppy Preserve is surely far from its peak and located > significantly east of 5 but ... > http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=3D627 > > There are good migratory bird spots out in the central valley but = > you're too > early. Gray Lodge which is too far north is pretty unattractive most = > of the > year but when the geese are there it can be pretty amazing. > http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/region2/graylodge/index.html > > I headed south a couple years ago to check out some of the wildlife = > areas > near Los Banos hoping they would be like Gray Lodge. My timing was = > off and > it was very disappointing. At the right time of the right year many = > of the > wildlife areas can be very worthwhile but otherwise about as = > attractive as > semi-abandoned farm land. > > The DFG website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/wa/index.html will = > give you > some names of places to look up. > > Guessing from your comments you'll be in Kern County > http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D= 15&sear > chtext=3DKern > or Fresno County (which only has Millerton Lake listed under state = > parks so > maybe street photography?) > http://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/results.asp?searchtype=3D4&county_id=3D= 10&sear > chtext=3DFresno > > Your trip is probably too early for fall colors nor does California = > come to > mind when you think fall colors. > http://www.calphoto.com/fall.htm > > In addition to Jim's mention of Yosemite, King's Canyon is good = > whenever you > can get into it. It doesn't take much hiking to get high into the = > Sierras. > But "not far or reasonable drive" by California standards often = > includes a > 200 mile radius. ;-) > > Jeff Keller > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [mailto:jmalmstrom@mac.com] > > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 20:47:22 2009 Received: (qmail 12809 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 18:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 18:47:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA51E18214 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A5CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EFA1CD4A9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:47:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D281CD4AD for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so372977bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:47:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.81 with SMTP id x17mr285037bkv.73.1254422832107; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:47:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:11 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 20:47:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4f93a320741879814018 Johan, You won't regret a second if you go out of your way for Yosemite. It is jaw-dropping gorgeous, especially that first view at the western tunnel entrance. I almost ran off the road. Charlie 2009/10/1 Johan Malmstr=F6m > Fresno is not far but actually closer to Coalinga. > Yosemite would be nice, maybe maybe I can strech my schedule for a day > there. > > Thanks > Johan > > > 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.09 skrev Jim Couch: > > > Johan, > > > > Sounds suspiciously like Fresno. If that is the case (or near Fresno) > > and you have a car, you can easily do a day trip to Yosemite Valley. > > > > Jim Couch > > > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > >> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > >> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > >> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > >> > >> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > >> > >> / Johan > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:00:24 2009 Received: (qmail 19095 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:00:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:00:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D80E1822C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24ADE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18AF1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:00:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D52B1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so382553bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.75 with SMTP id t11mr146505hbg.205.1254423612013; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:00:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 19ef9b9412c8cb5b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:00:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4fc48307861357919056 > > Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this case it > is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. It will > now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy > camper. Bill Barber > I'm looking foward to your confirming everything I've been saying about this camera. Or at least a few things. Last night I spent a couple hours repacking camera bags. It's a constant evolution trying to find that "perfect combination' of gear. I'm getting close. At least until the next assignment or acquisition where I rearrange things all over again. Bag 1 (The Digital/Analog event bag): - E-1 with 14-54 - OM-4T with 35-80 and MD2 - Tokina AT-X 100-300 F4 zoom with OM-E adaptor (swappable with 300/4.5) - Polarizer - Vivitar 285HV Bag 2 (The Analog bag): - OM-3Ti - OM-2S - 24 F2.8 - 35 F2.8 - 35 Shift - 50 F3.5 Macro - 100 F2.8 - 200 F4 - Handheld Meter (flash/ambient) - Filters - Cable Release Bag 3 (small hip bag): - Minolta A1 Grab-n-Go equipment for swapping out individual things: - Additional flash gear - 300 F4.5 (used instead of the 100-300 when the analog and digital bags are carried) - IS3 and g40 flash - Lots of other stuff The point is, the OM-3Ti has a place of prominence by occupying the primo-deluxe spot in the analog bag. And when I'm going out with just one camera/lens, my combination of choice is the OM-3Ti with 35 F2.8. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:06:15 2009 Received: (qmail 6542 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:06:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:06:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C20E182A9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C41E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8801CD495 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A993C1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F82882ED; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 450ac626) id dm0201.4aa060f0.5321829; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:06:07 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKxP2fWFzl5gIAAAAC,1eb1618bcb1703406a855f619b577ee7 Message-ID: <4AC4FDAB.5040009@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:06:19 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion , jmalmstrom@mac.com References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:06:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4fda772781220213263 I think you would find it well worth your while, it is a truly stunning = place to see in person. Jim Couch Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Fresno is not far but actually closer to Coalinga. > Yosemite would be nice, maybe maybe I can strech my schedule for a day = > there. > > Thanks > Johan > > > 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.09 skrev Jim Couch: > > = >> Johan, >> >> Sounds suspiciously like Fresno. If that is the case (or near Fresno) >> and you have a car, you can easily do a day trip to Yosemite Valley. >> >> Jim Couch >> >> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> = >>> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. >>> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along >>> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. >>> >>> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? >>> >>> / Johan >>> >>> = >> -- = >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> = > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:15:13 2009 Received: (qmail 14382 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:15:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5CCE18279 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D38E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293E93610003 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490DE3610005 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:15:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jon@jonmitch.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Trace: 268940880/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/80.47.68.151/None/jon@jonmitch.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 80.47.68.151 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jon@jonmitch.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQEAM+cxEpQL0SX/2dsb2JhbACPRYEvxxSEKQSEEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,488,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="268940880" Received: from 80-47-68-151.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com (HELO MEDIAPC) ([80.47.68.151]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 20:15:03 +0100 From: "Jon Mitchell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:15:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01ca42cb$821a33b0$0465a8c0@MEDIAPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <571FB90E-4CBC-4F13-84B9-AEDA4E816E4A@people.net.au> Importance: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 30/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:15:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac4ffc1167291342116753 Yes - correct. My mistake. Pictures clearly show the 55mm and the 1.2, but their description is wrong. Sorry 'bout that - I should have looked more closely. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: 30 September 2009 23:11 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six That's a silver-nosed G. Zuiko - surely it would have to be a 55mm f1.2? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/10/2009, at 4:44 AM, Jon Mitchell wrote: > Hi Bill, > > 50mm/f1.2 available here .... > > http://www.andrewscameras.co.uk/used%20olympus.htm > > Not sure that's exactly a bargain, and not giving any personal > recommendation (other than the fact I walk past the shop > occasionally). > > And it's the wrong side of the pond, but does the exchange rate > work in > your favour at the moment ? > > Jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NSURIT@aol.com [mailto:NSURIT@aol.com] > Sent: 30 September 2009 19:09 > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: [OM] WTB - Olympus Chrome Six > > Part of what was recently stolen was my Olympus Chrome Six in near > mint > > condition with case. It had the 2.8 lens and all leather was > intact. No > light > leaks. I used it and was delighted with the results. If anyone has > one > they are interested in sending to a new home, please contact me off > list. > Same goes for the 90mm f2 and 50mm f1.2., both of which were near > mint > with > hoods. I've just about got most of the kit replacements tracked down, > other > than these items and my Gossen Sixtino light meter. Yes, it was old, > but > accurate and had a really dandy little hard plastic clamshell case. > Bill > Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:42:03 2009 Received: (qmail 17086 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C081E181B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B8EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FAF34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:41:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED49634AC02E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:41:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B0D461588 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:08:14 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:41:55 +0100 Message-Id: <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:42:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5060b107902517112723 It would be my pleasure; there are many possible interpretations of "prat", but d***head would be a good one. :-) Or, remember the little child in "Meet the Fockers": what he (apparently) said would do nicely as well ... Chris On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:25, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Chris, > Could you translate "prat" from English to American please. I'm not > familiar with the term. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:43:09 2009 Received: (qmail 27829 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F17E18212 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C6FE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4430D34AC02C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E8834AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:43:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AED461588 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:09:23 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:43:04 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:43:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5064d309007801554290 Well done, Bill! Chris On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:30, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this > case it > is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. > It will > now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy > camper. Bill Barber > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:52:14 2009 Received: (qmail 15354 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:52:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFC7E182A3 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69791E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C39719EDE6 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E73B19EDE4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:52:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so425556fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:52:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.36.206 with SMTP id u14mr325791bkd.138.1254426726985; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:52:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:52:06 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011252k1f6e080an5ab6d0ae7c865c84@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:52:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5086e275951612113968 Thanks. It's all clear to me now. C On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > It would be my pleasure; there are many possible interpretations of > "prat", but d***head would be a good one. :-) > > Or, remember the little child in "Meet the Fockers": what he > (apparently) said would do nicely as well ... > > Chris > > On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:25, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > > > Chris, > > Could you translate "prat" from English to American please. I'm not > > familiar with the term. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 21:58:36 2009 Received: (qmail 2073 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 19:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 19:58:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFABE182AE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E217AE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052B34AC029 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254FB34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so431201fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr322598bkd.196.1254427106838; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:58:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com> <4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:58:26 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910011258h45dafc2ao947d332cfcf9d2a2@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 21:58:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac509ec323511234514069 That was very good advice. I downloaded Oly Master 2, installed and updated it. Much, much better than the version that came with my E-500 three years ago. Thanks CH Ling. Charlie On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:43 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert your > image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the > color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, > saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the > option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not > available in the camera JPEG setting. > > With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have more > room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For > under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW > conversion. > > You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further > processing. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olaf Greve" > > > Hi C.H. and Philippe, > > > > > > Thanks for your aswers! > > It looks like when shooting in JPEG WB balance setting is required for > > each situation then... All clear. > > One thing I'm wondering about, however, is the RAW format. I had never > > looked into it and thought it would be just a lossless format, such as > > TIFF, however, the remarks from the both of you suggest there are more > > advantages, like not having to set the WB??? > > Can you (or anyone else) give a quick run-down on the format and its > > advantages? I'm getting curious to this...:) > > > > > > Thx and cheers! > > Olafo > > > > On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:59, "C.H.Ling" wrote: > > > >> Olaf, if you don't like RAW then the only way is to set color temp. > >> before > >> shooting. For flash just use "Flash" or "Daylight" WB. For outdoor, > >> bring a > >> grey card, lock the white balance by using "One-touch white balance" > >> at page > >> 85 of E500 PDF manual. > >> > >> C.H.Ling > >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:05:06 2009 Received: (qmail 17993 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:05:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:05:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94315E182B5 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3114E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B58534AC02B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30E034AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 16:04:54 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:04:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4D3220200004E00029A12@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:04:50 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:05:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac50b7272062517112723 I agree with Charlie. Yosemite is OUTSTANDING. I love the National Parks. A= nd after Labor Day, most are not crowded. If you have an extended stay and = need another day or day+ trip, try going north to the redwoods or the coast= to Big Sur/Monteray. Northern California is so much more picturesque than = the southern half. And don't forget the wine country. Clay >>> Jim Couch 10/01/09 3:06 PM >>> = I think you would find it well worth your while, it is a truly stunning = place to see in person. = Jim Couch = Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: = > Fresno is not far but actually closer to Coalinga. = > Yosemite would be nice, maybe maybe I can strech my schedule for a day = > there. = > = > Thanks = > Johan = > = > = > 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.09 skrev Jim Couch: = > = > = >> Johan, = >> = >> Sounds suspiciously like Fresno. If that is the case (or near Fresno) = >> and you have a car, you can easily do a day trip to Yosemite Valley. = >> = >> Jim Couch = >> = >> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: = >> = >>> So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. = >>> Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along = >>> the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. = >>> = >>> Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? = >>> = >>> / Johan = >>> = >>> = >> -- = >> _________________________________________________________________ = >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus = >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ = >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ = >> = >> = > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ = Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus = Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ = Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:09:37 2009 Received: (qmail 20002 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:09:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D55E182B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C3CE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5CF34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:09:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCC834AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 16:09:31 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:09:31 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC4D42D0200004E00029A23@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:09:17 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:09:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac50c8120745368819438 Did 2001 play when you opened the box? Did a bright light eminate when the lid was opened? How does it really feel to own the Grail? I was reading Ken's essay on the 3Ti today. Very impressive. I know you will have fun. Clay >>> Chris Barker 10/01/09 3:44 PM >>> Well done, Bill! Chris On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:30, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this > case it > is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. > It will > now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy > camper. Bill Barber > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:12:38 2009 Received: (qmail 29468 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:12:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:12:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0298CE182D0 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F69E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23013610001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:12:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D58734AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:12:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17704 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC50D2C.5070505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:12:28 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:12:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac50d364391946193717 The rectangular and triangular artifacts are very interesting. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the > telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, > poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even > approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:16:18 2009 Received: (qmail 14782 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:16:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADEDE182CB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DC7E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB92334AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CD134AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20484 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 20:16:05 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 20:16:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC50E04.9040409@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:16:04 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:16:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac50e12163131342116753 The problem is that Gary's test of the 80/4 was done at 1:40 like all of the "normal" lenses even though the lens is designed to work at high magnification. But he clearly recognized the shortcomings of the test conditions by saying so and labeling it "experimental". Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > Here is Gary Reese's lens test for the 80 F4 lens: > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=254&Itemid=97 > > In comparison, here is the 90 F2 lens: > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=258&Itemid=97 > > And the 50 F2 macro: > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=246&Itemid=97 > > And the star of the show the 135 F4.5 lens: > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=266&Itemid=97 > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:22:00 2009 Received: (qmail 3241 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:21:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3F9E182C8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16639E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1D21CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BC61CD494 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25292 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 20:21:52 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 20:21:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC50F5F.6030006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:21:51 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:22:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac50f68175512439112457 I missed it on my big trip. But that was just the first trip. There = will be more. :-) Chuck Norcutt Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Johan, > You won't regret a second if you go out of your way for Yosemite. It is > jaw-dropping gorgeous, especially that first view at the western tunnel > entrance. I almost ran off the road. > = > Charlie > = > 2009/10/1 Johan Malmstr=F6m > = >> Fresno is not far but actually closer to Coalinga. >> Yosemite would be nice, maybe maybe I can strech my schedule for a day >> there. >> >> Thanks >> Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:25:31 2009 Received: (qmail 12952 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:25:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E4FE18056 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA0DE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B0A34AC02A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CEC34AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n91KPPhY024238 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:25:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.bf0.5c8407f6 (14501) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:25:19 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:25:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5103b313511946193717 In a message dated 10/1/2009 3:09:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Clay.Nichols@PalmettoHealth.org writes: Did 2001 play when you opened the box? Did a bright light eminate when the lid was opened? All this and then some. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:32:58 2009 Received: (qmail 12859 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4ADE1829F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AA2E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A0B1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5DC1CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MtSKa-0004sb-1m for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:32:52 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MtSKZ-0001b0-I8 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:32:51 +0100 Message-ID: <4AC511F4.2050508@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:32:52 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:32:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac511fa159873900897491 NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this case it > is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. It will > now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy > camper. Bill Barber Oddly, I'm not jealous. Just chuffed for you, mate. Enjoy! D. PS - keep us informed... -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 22:44:38 2009 Received: (qmail 27284 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 20:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 20:44:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38C8E18229 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CF4E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76301CD495 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F2D1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so199068fga.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:44:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.29 with SMTP id q29mr158804hba.127.1254429869434; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:44:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:44:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 578eb3dd53252812 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 22:44:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac514b6163021220213263 > > All this and then some. Bill Barber > The sound of angels singing! BTW, if you look closely, imprinted in the leatherette at the self-timer location is the Virgin Mary. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:21:13 2009 Received: (qmail 18534 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:21:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:21:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C0FE181CC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D18E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD0C1CD492 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F1C1CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n91LL5Xg024878 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:21:05 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.beb.4da3c345 (14501) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:21:02 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:21:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac51d4974825368819438 In a message dated 10/1/2009 3:44:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: The sound of angels singing! BTW, if you look closely, imprinted in the leatherette at the self-timer location is the Virgin Mary. AG -- Yes, it is a rather religious experience or at least a spiritual one. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:26:08 2009 Received: (qmail 32548 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:26:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15080E1829D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66CCE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B2E34AC02A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027B34AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sctroy@erols.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 17:26:02 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LDV61741; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:26:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: sctroy Received: from 216-164-199-115.s1639.apx1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com (HELO PAB0180015360A.erols.com) ([216.164.199.115]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 17:26:00 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172428.01dd3b78@erols.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:25:59 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Stephen Troy In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:26:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac51e70259481234514069 At 02:47 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: >Johan, > You won't regret a second if you go out of your way for Yosemite. It is >jaw-dropping gorgeous, especially that first view at the western tunnel >entrance. I almost ran off the road. > >Charlie And the view from the end of Glacier Point Road is the most stunning vista you'll ever see - if you get there, make the drive to Glacier Point. The Western tunnel entrance has recently been redone, with nice parking and viewing platforms. Ansel never had it this good. Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:28:48 2009 Received: (qmail 17806 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:28:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CC3E181B2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F400E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732101CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158C01CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sctroy@erols.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 17:28:41 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFH47430; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:28:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: sctroy Received: from 216-164-199-115.s1639.apx1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com (HELO PAB0180015360A.erols.com) ([216.164.199.115]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 17:28:14 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:28:12 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Stephen Troy In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:28:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac51f10170275683411216 At 05:21 PM 10/1/2009, Bill Barber wrote: >Yes, it is a rather religious experience or at least a spiritual one. >Bill Barber My brother and I each have two 3Ti's. Anyone else have more than one, or are we the strange ones here? Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:29:47 2009 Received: (qmail 6533 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:29:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418BFE18245 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA2DE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4089134AC02C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DD534AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1687297fgg.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.197 with SMTP id l5mr164306hbe.82.1254432538437; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:28:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eeb7689654c15256 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:29:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac51f4b2421950411718 > > Yes, it is a rather religious experience or at least a spiritual one. > We really have lost it. It's JUST a camera. AG (yeah right) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:47:49 2009 Received: (qmail 8822 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:47:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCCBE1829F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D22E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9B1CD492 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404D61CD49B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1691671fgg.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:47:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.136 with SMTP id c8mr148561hba.148.1254433658758; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:47:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0c11106345a863d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:47:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac52385274161744846740 > > My brother and I each have two 3Ti's. Anyone else have more than > one, or are we the strange ones here? > Strange! Very strange. But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where having said cameras came in handy. Right? AG (You can't just stop with one) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 1 23:52:57 2009 Received: (qmail 10298 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 21:52:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 21:52:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64451E181D8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A89DE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2661CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904541CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so496594bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:52:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr165883hba.62.1254433969897; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:52:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172428.01dd3b78@erols.com> References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172428.01dd3b78@erols.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:52:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f94b282fa07be1e4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 1 23:52:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac524b988231946193717 > > And the view from the end of Glacier Point Road is the most stunning > vista you'll ever see - if you get there, make the drive to Glacier Point. > > The Western tunnel entrance has recently been redone, with nice > parking and viewing platforms. Ansel never had it this good. > Someday I want to see it myself. But I'm at a loss how to photograph it in a way that hasn't already been done 486 million times before. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe my destiny in life is to get that same shot. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:22:34 2009 Received: (qmail 32006 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:22:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:22:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B554DE182A3 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CD2E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF02D1CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501E51CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25804 invoked by uid 502); 1 Oct 2009 23:22:26 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-172.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.172) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 23:22:26 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:22:21 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Ws In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:22:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac539ba87351234514069 The group mind meld here is enjoying the sweetness Bill is projecting with his new photographic inspiration. Truly a spiritual experience. At the height of my addiction, I had 3 OM-3Ti's, but that was before loosing a ton of money in a startup company. I sold off two 3Ti's at the dawn of the 5D era. The last went to a most deserving fellow and that has also been more enjoyable than owning the camera. I bet if the OM-4T was as rare as the 3Ti, it would be even more cherished. Ultimately it is Film that makes the camera. I still feel the 4Ti beats the pants off a 3Ti, but the esoteric element is hard to deny. The penultimate 4Ti captures the uniqueness of the OM-2n with elegant spot metering. The 3T is a 4T knock-off with a retro-mechanical mechanism. Itself an extravagant feat. But the basis of the 3Ti is a 4Ti at heart. All the electronics are 4T based. But there is no accounting for the feeling it creates in ones hands. OK, now get to work Bill and show us some creative inspiration. Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. WayneS At 05:28 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: >At 05:21 PM 10/1/2009, Bill Barber wrote: >>Yes, it is a rather religious experience or at least a spiritual one. >>Bill Barber > >My brother and I each have two 3Ti's. Anyone else have more than >one, or are we the strange ones here? > >Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:39:43 2009 Received: (qmail 27179 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:39:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:39:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01E7E182A4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5FDE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AD01CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:39:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1C01CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15268 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 23:39:36 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:39:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac53dbf188111073733319 However, when processing the raw file, if you have done all adjustments that affect pixel brightness (exposure, shadows, highlights, color balance, saturation, etc, etc, then there is no need to save the output file in other than JPEG since 16 bit precision will no longer be required. The only remaining editing operation that can affect pixel brightness level is sharpening and that will be minor and OK in JPEG. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert your > image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the > color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, > saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the > option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not > available in the camera JPEG setting. > > With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have more > room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For > under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW > conversion. > > You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further > processing. > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:44:04 2009 Received: (qmail 1015 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:44:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5681EE182A1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFEBE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48151CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146701CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30792 invoked by uid 503); 1 Oct 2009 23:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 1 Oct 2009 23:43:56 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172428.01dd3b78@erols.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:43:56 -0700 Message-ID: <002201ca42f1$0b013320$21039960$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpC4YpeKWg23KEBSc+WoYbU6SzYOwADvmOg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:44:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac53ec4178595683411216 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] > > And the view from the end of Glacier Point Road is the most stunning > vista you'll ever see - if you get there, make the drive to Glacier Point. > > The Western tunnel entrance has recently been redone, with nice > parking and viewing platforms. Ansel never had it this good. > Someday I want to see it myself. But I'm at a loss how to photograph it in a way that hasn't already been done 486 million times before. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe my destiny in life is to get that same shot. AG *** I don't know the date but around this time of year the setting sun can hit Bridal Veil falls turning them golden. There are enough people that know about it that the parking area can be filled with photographers. Jeff Keller -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:44:36 2009 Received: (qmail 31909 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:44:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:44:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD46E18255 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C89E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50D34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B71E34AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18815 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 23:44:19 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090930-0, 09/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:44:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac53ee4254795034211378 Chuck Norcutt Stephen Troy wrote: > At 02:47 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: >> Johan, >> You won't regret a second if you go out of your way for Yosemite. It is >> jaw-dropping gorgeous, especially that first view at the western tunnel >> entrance. I almost ran off the road. >> >> Charlie > > > And the view from the end of Glacier Point Road is the most stunning > vista you'll ever see - if you get there, make the drive to Glacier Point. > > The Western tunnel entrance has recently been redone, with nice > parking and viewing platforms. Ansel never had it this good. > > Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:46:12 2009 Received: (qmail 30854 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:46:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:46:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A828BE1822E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34845E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259651CD495 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:45:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43B61CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:45:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20204 invoked by uid 504); 1 Oct 2009 23:45:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:46:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac53f44218185368819438 It takes two 3Ti's to stand up to their scenery. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> My brother and I each have two 3Ti's. Anyone else have more than >> one, or are we the strange ones here? >> > > Strange! Very strange. > > But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where > having said cameras came in handy. Right? > > AG (You can't just stop with one) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:56:05 2009 Received: (qmail 28627 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:56:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DDAE1824D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEC8E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB431CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0C1CD494 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so558951bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:55:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.136 with SMTP id c8mr159402hba.148.1254441358069; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:55:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:55:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d3049a075bb1eb4b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:56:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54195197852013633067 > > Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane > and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. > > You know this is going to go over like a fart in church. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 01:57:11 2009 Received: (qmail 31425 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2009 23:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Oct 2009 23:57:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83A6E182AB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B8E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4529034AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9D634AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:57:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n91NutcP016946 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:56:55 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d10.5920f273 (43979) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.99]) by cia-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD044-d3d84ac541bd294; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:56:53 -0400 Received: from webmail-m092 (webmail-m092.sim.aol.com [64.12.102.42]) by smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC032-d3d84ac541bd294; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:56:45 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:56:45 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by webmail-m092.sysops.aol.com (64.12.102.42) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:56:45 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC1109F7636363-11B8-4A44@webmail-m092.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 01:57:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac541d7290661879814018 I think the image circle is "large." The bellows lenses were being designed for use with a tilt-shift bellows that never made it to market. The image circle also increases of course as the magnification increases. I recall Walt used the Z. 135 f4 macro in some type of LF rig. I have yet to see any vignetting with the 38mm, 80 f4 or 135 with 10 deg of tilt on the Mirex adapter with the lenses on the autotube though stopped down at least one stop. The Alan Wood site says the 80 f4 was optimized at 1:1. I have never seen any MTF data though it likely exists somewhere. It appears to be perfectly symetrical double gaussian? design. I recall CH's very nice flower shots with it wide open. Probably doesn't help a wit. Mike I have also produced some very high magnification with reversed high- quality lenses - Interestingly enough (and before I was the recipient of a gift 20/3.5) the highest resolution/magnification I've personally gotten was a reversed Zuiko 24/2.0 stuck to my 135/3.5 :-) Quite extreme. Although few lenses are flat-fielded enough to look good into the corners, unlike the 20/3.5 which is perfect even at f/3.5 right into the corner. (because it also projects an image circle large enough to cover 4x5in film, so "corner" of the 35mm frame is still pretty close to the centre of the image.) Did you guys know the 20/3.5 can cover 4x5in film at its optimum working magnification? Also, my pet project sometime will be to find a way to stick it onto my RB67 - 6x7cm at 12x magnification, with vibration-less leaf shutter sounds like heaven to me, assuming I can focus the thing. Anyway, any reversed lens is going to absolutely suck compared to the 80/4.0 at 1:1 magnification, even though they will do better at very high magnification. So... as per my earlier request - does anybody have some real resolution / MTF figures for the 80/4.0? And, while they are at it, size of image circle? I don't think it'll be as extreme as the 20mm, but I wonder if it'll cover 6x7cm? On 01 Oct 2009, at 2:30 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Just for an interesting comparison: > > Same set up substituting a reversed Minolta C.E.ROKKOR-X 30/2.8 > @f5.6 for > the Zuiko 80/4. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:07:29 2009 Received: (qmail 31822 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93DDE181A8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7975EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674A21CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9621CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13900 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 00:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:07:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-Id: <6D277AD2-0EBA-4907-BF35-AA4BFA13D4DC@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:07:17 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:07:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5444173112439112457 EVry time I've been in a Jeep (Cherokee type that is) I thought how small it was inside. Basically a station wagon pretending to be a 4WD. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/10/2009, at 1:40 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a > Jeep with > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in > the world, > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted > in 100% > transmission failures. > > Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > IDIOTS! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:22:13 2009 Received: (qmail 8648 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:22:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DABE181BA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C62E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7473610001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE4534AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17643 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 00:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:21:53 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <1771431434.456801254409993368.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-Id: <04537A54-59CD-4633-8F34-973721A3F5DD@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:22:04 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:22:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac547b5220047801554290 I was living in the UK near Gaydon (Warks) - home of Jag, Aston Martin, Range Rover, etc. The country lanes were full of exotics so Audis were ten a penny, whatever the displacement. Prettiest thing I saw? - next door's Aston DB7. Stunner. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/10/2009, at 1:29 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > A little misleading, though. The UK versions usually have the tiny > motors > in them. The big motors are sold on the continent and in the USA. > In the > UK, you pay through the nose for every cubic millimeter of > displacement. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:32:24 2009 Received: (qmail 2676 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:32:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF887E1824C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE32E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99BE34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:32:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C7E34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n920WGQ7020505 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:32:16 +1000 Message-Id: <200910020032.n920WGQ7020505@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:32:16 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:32:16 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:32:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54a189793900897491 > Dawid Loubser wrote: > > > I am talking about 20x30in or so optical prints of quite flat > subjects, so no need to stop down m assively. > (stretching the capabilities of 35mm, yes - but it's the sweetheart > format of Macro for film shooters) > "Very flat" would be my thought. I think you're correct about the 20/3.5, I believe the 20/2 was introduced because the older lens was diffraction limited wide open. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:34:18 2009 Received: (qmail 7405 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:34:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B81E18212 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10297E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F187034AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:34:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B19B34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:34:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20069 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 00:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:33:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <9D456DF6-950F-4655-9170-D1977427D234@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:58 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:34:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54a8a278096789618724 You think? Yes I know Clarkson is an irritating fascist p***k (that's what 'prat' is a euphemic for, like 'ass' for arse) but he is funny and so I forgive. It's right - the real green alternative is a small, older car driven conservatively and properly serviced, not some 'technology can fix it' heap of nonsense. Always has been. Electric cars? - around here, electricity is not a clean process but rather an unpleasant, dirty and efficient one. People fixate on just one aspect such as the amount of petrol used or what's coming out of the tail pipe and forget all the other stuff that is less obvious. I suspect that my ancient Pajero ('86) is more environmentally sound than my wife's little Toyota because it runs on gas (LPG) and it hasn't been replaced. The only real problem I have with Top Gear is that those guys are having far too much fun and getting paid a lot to do it. Massively entertaining. My brother-in-law in France watches it fascinated because he's never seen anyone describe a new Renault as a steaming heap of excrement (I think that's what he said). And, hey, let's drag race a Bugatti Veyron, run a train into something, race double-decker buses, whatever. Great show. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/10/2009, at 2:11 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > I still like this from Top Gear http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=dKTOyiKLARk > (even tho' some of it is questionable) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:35:26 2009 Received: (qmail 2534 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:35:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE47E18056 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF541E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E579234AC028 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193A634AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20234 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 00:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:35:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <1771431434.456801254409993368.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-Id: <92CA0407-0C25-4E61-8D14-E709E2B76E99@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:35:17 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:35:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54ace138581357919056 Ah, so they really ARE wankers then? Thought so. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/10/2009, at 1:29 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >>> . disproportionate number of difficult drivers in the UK cruise >>> around in big fat Audis - especially those new ones with the >>> fairground headlights. >> > > > A little misleading, though. The UK versions usually have the tiny > motors > in them. The big motors are sold on the continent and in the USA. > In the > UK, you pay through the nose for every cubic millimeter of > displacement. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:39:18 2009 Received: (qmail 1145 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:39:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CADE18279 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3BE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F3D1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:39:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43691CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n920dA6n026692 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:39:10 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <12B2D9F6E21E473DA82055E02D100A10@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> <4AC50D2C.5070505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:38:52 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:39:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54bb6221822517112723 Same here, I like the special OOF effect created by the illuminated web. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > The rectangular and triangular artifacts are very interesting. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Mike Lazzari wrote: >> In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the >> telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, >> poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even >> approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. >> >> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg >> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg >> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg >> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg >> >> Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:43:27 2009 Received: (qmail 29697 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:43:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A92E1822E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBCDE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7C434AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594C34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n920hI0k024852 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:43:18 +1000 Message-Id: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:43:18 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:43:18 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:43:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54caf33112439112457 > Dawid Loubser wrote: > > > Did you guys know the 20/3.5 can cover 4x5in film at its optimum > working magnification? Also, my pet project > sometime will be to find a way to stick it onto my RB67 - 6x7cm at 12x > magnification, with vibration-less leaf > shutter sounds like heaven to me, assuming I can focus the thing. > There is a simple way to mount just about any lens on an RB67. First obtain one of the original 90/3.8 lenses (not a "C" or "K/L") with a working shutter (doesn't matter about the glass). Unscrew the rear element group (comes out as a unit) and unscrew the front element group (also comes out as a unit). The thread in the front of the shutter body is 42mmx0.75mm (T-mount !). You need to then obtain a short (20-25mm from memory) T-mount extension tube and screw this into the front of the shutter body as this thread is deeply recessed in the shutter body. From there you can add just about any lens using various adapters. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:44:26 2009 Received: (qmail 31821 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:44:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:44:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27005E1822D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CF0E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7A41CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:44:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2C31CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:44:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n920iD4s027586 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:44:13 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com><9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com><4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com> <4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com><05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <14883a8b0910011258h45dafc2ao947d332cfcf9d2a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:43:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:44:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54cea131582517112723 Yeah! Olympus leave a lots of room for improvement on its software, even for the Master 2 there are some bugs and a critical issue (cannot save RAW adjusted parameters) still not solved but I like its color/tone rendering so keeping using it as my major converter. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Geilfuss" > That was very good advice. I downloaded Oly Master 2, installed and > updated it. Much, much better than the version that came with my E-500 > three > years ago. Thanks CH Ling. > > Charlie > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:43 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert >> your >> image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the >> color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, >> saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the >> option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not >> available in the camera JPEG setting. >> >> With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have >> more >> room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For >> under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW >> conversion. >> >> You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further >> processing. >> >> C.H.Ling >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:45:27 2009 Received: (qmail 7574 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439FDE1822D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49328E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B12A1CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:45:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E501CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:45:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22450 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 00:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:44:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:45:00 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:45:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54d27284711946193717 Writing a magazine article on soft photography - using things like pinholes, Lensbabies, SIMA's, Portragons, Loreo's and Holga lenses on digital SLR's - digital Lomography if you like. Tripped over this - http://cgi.ebay.com/Jelly-Lens-Effect-Phone-Camera-Lomo-Soft-Lens- No-9-(Yel_W0QQitemZ250498643804 Gave me a laugh - I though fones were pretty lomographic already! My best pinhole so far (er, nudity warning) - http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/117690547 (5D2, Bowens Striplight, my mate Andy's f192 home made pinhole) This is more fun than sharp. Shame the magazine won't use it. ("We're a family magazine - the publisher's family and they don't approve"). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:51:47 2009 Received: (qmail 27190 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:51:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE84E182A4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB12EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D681CD48A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B14F1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sgomez.baja@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-pz0-f191.google.com (mail-pz0-f191.google.com [209.85.222.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk29 with SMTP id 29so642678pzk.22 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.248.4 with SMTP id v4mr280317wfh.180.1254444699345; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:51:39 -0700 Message-ID: <5bc0258e0910011751t277144d7k724737cfe9abe3cc@mail.gmail.com> From: Scott Gomez To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:51:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54ea3201651258626592 Lots of recommendations for the coast, and Yosemite, and I heartily agree. If you've time, definitely make it to Yosemite. However, I also would not neglect lots of opportunities in the Sierras, or even a drive through them and into the eastern valleys. Due east of you would be Lone Pine and vicinity, lots of great stuff to see around there. I believe someone also mentioned Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks, also not all that far away and worth the trip. All said, however, if it comes to picking just one place, make it Yosemite. --- Scott Gomez 2009/9/30 Johan Malmstr=F6m > So I guess I'm back in the loop after standing aside for 8 months. > Seems like I'm going to California, half way between LA and SF along > the Interstate 5 is nothing and that is where I'm wanted. > > Anybody in the region? Any thing to see? Birding spots maybe? > > / Johan > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 02:57:27 2009 Received: (qmail 5728 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 00:57:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 00:57:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C2AE181AE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4499DE240B4 for ; 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Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:57:19 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:57:19 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 02:57:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac54ff718961006886880 > Ken Norton wrote: > > > This is a classic case of the marketing department dictating to > engineering > what they will offer to us stupid Americans that don't have a clue how > to > drive a stick. > Just a matter of building an auto transmission that matches correcly to the characteristics of the engine - not rocket science. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 03:04:42 2009 Received: (qmail 10773 invoked by uid 0); 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What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 03:04:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac551aa148993900897491 With Canyon DPP it may be ok but for Olympus Master not, there is no curve under RAW manual, you can't make subtle adjustment, the contrast step is too wide for my taste. Olympus Master do has curve under "Edit" manual but you lost the WB and Exposure control what a strange design. Olympus Studio 2 integrated them but you have to pay for it. There are many other post processing require 16 bit like highlight/shadow control, softer effect workflow also require curve up the brightness after processing. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > However, when processing the raw file, if you have done all adjustments > that affect pixel brightness (exposure, shadows, highlights, color > balance, saturation, etc, etc, then there is no need to save the output > file in other than JPEG since 16 bit precision will no longer be > required. The only remaining editing operation that can affect pixel > brightness level is sharpening and that will be minor and OK in JPEG. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert >> your >> image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the >> color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, >> saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the >> option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not >> available in the camera JPEG setting. >> >> With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have >> more >> room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For >> under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW >> conversion. >> >> You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further >> processing. >> >> C.H.Ling > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 03:54:24 2009 Received: (qmail 20227 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 01:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 01:54:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E126BE18229 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD83E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B0E34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B51134AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so729561yxe.22 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.254.3 with SMTP id b3mr3475770ybi.161.1254448456898; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:16 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910011854u7328e8f4w1a439c276de06215@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Because I Was There, Photographing At Yosemite X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 03:54:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac55d50224164877110844 As I was carrying two cameras hiking down the Panoramic Trail in Yosemite, one of the oft-heard comments was "you can't take bad pictures at Yosemite." A couple times, I jokingly replied, "yes, but I can try!" The rest at http://wp.me/poYBs-5P -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:29:24 2009 Received: (qmail 19562 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:29:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B2EE181AE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA58E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F8234AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AED34AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.68]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32455 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 02:29:18 -0000 Message-ID: <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7gZbTlkVM1nPR7tcmC1zCxUaTULtEUyU5NexSJ9TGZub._Smj1YjJdWiSCWS8191nbDZarQsm3_7EJ.wx_wEb1PKmhO7wkbM4SnJN3T9FRAq5kR35YZ9n78dzhgURIYgLMQkTtgx2mhWCOB8j8_ez.vVayOaWr.HFLmdXDR0B3dTcEnAkyKoipqX8KIvLmFntHRys3Siqwksrar82sAAwHruhBtMz_jLL9w1bsghrpOUkeYfm3bkJ5VwJzlNUtlzyuU_euCbFROxdEkVvDD._nApSeS4Ha.w_iny_E7diS7Gm5nxKG3k0vvQLtxLzrtUyG_e_kKSsqPYChbWzwl56zs54NB1L6TD5NBVwLXWw__SpYdBWhCaW71ApkzS8CYcIHJztkULtHqJ4YvdoQ7e0rzcCEc- Received: from [74.110.3.189] by web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:29:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:29:18 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910011854u7328e8f4w1a439c276de06215@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:29:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac56584204471234514069 I believe someone posted something about a National Parks TV series?! There is a free download on iTunes - behind the scenes look: http://tinyurl.com/yc9qf6r FYI. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:34:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8752 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:34:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:34:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C240E181CD for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5676AE240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4713F1CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FF71CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so764524yxe.22 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:34:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.5.2 with SMTP id 2mr3530217ybe.234.1254450870151; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:34:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC511F4.2050508@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4AC511F4.2050508@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:34:30 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910011934q2fcc1c6eo7582d13d1828294f@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:34:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac566c1167611342116753 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Donald wrote: > NSURIT@aol.com wrote: >> Oh, how sweet it is! =A0 Yes, I know it is just a camera and in =A0this = case it >> is the OM 3Ti. =A0As John said, it doesn't look to have been =A0used. = =A0It will >> now. =A0The stable is full and I have no need for an =A0M-1. =A0A very h= appy >> camper. =A0Bill =A0Barber > > Oddly, I'm not jealous. > > Just chuffed for you, mate. Enjoy! Exactly how I feel. Well said. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:41:43 2009 Received: (qmail 15027 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:41:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5796E1829F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74449E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B1C34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so691547fxm.37 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr191577hba.62.1254451296416; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <7ac27f4f0910011854u7328e8f4w1a439c276de06215@mail.gmail.com> <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:41:36 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1741993538440255 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:41:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac56867274281136683642 I've been attempting to watch the series. Got them recording on the Satallite Receiver's DVR. My problem with Ken Burns' films is that they are perfect for curing insomnia. As my wife says: "The Voice!" AG Schnozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:44:32 2009 Received: (qmail 9501 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:44:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9769EE1829F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E66E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC39D1CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:44:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8C61CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:44:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12794 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 02:44:24 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:44:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac569102419752976205 I wasn't aware that Olympus Master was so limited. Glad I'm not using it. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > With Canyon DPP it may be ok but for Olympus Master not, there is no curve > under RAW manual, you can't make subtle adjustment, the contrast step is too > wide for my taste. Olympus Master do has curve under "Edit" manual but you > lost the WB and Exposure control what a strange design. Olympus Studio 2 > integrated them but you have to pay for it. > > There are many other post processing require 16 bit like highlight/shadow > control, softer effect workflow also require curve up the brightness after > processing. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > >> However, when processing the raw file, if you have done all adjustments >> that affect pixel brightness (exposure, shadows, highlights, color >> balance, saturation, etc, etc, then there is no need to save the output >> file in other than JPEG since 16 bit precision will no longer be >> required. The only remaining editing operation that can affect pixel >> brightness level is sharpening and that will be minor and OK in JPEG. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> C.H.Ling wrote: >>> To make it simple, I recommend Olympus Master 2 (it is free) to covert >>> your >>> image. I mainly use the Exposure and WB function (a slide bar to set the >>> color temp you wanted), you can also adjust contrast, sharpness, >>> saturation... like you do inside the camera. For E-300 it even gives the >>> option of disable the noise filter to gain more sharpness that is not >>> available in the camera JPEG setting. >>> >>> With E-1 I usually set -1/3 stop during shooting so that you can have >>> more >>> room for highlight which does not recover well with Olympus Master. For >>> under exposed image you can do a lot to it up to +2 stop during RAW >>> conversion. >>> >>> You can save your converted file in 16 bit Tiff or 8 bit JPEG for further >>> processing. >>> >>> C.H.Ling >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:45:45 2009 Received: (qmail 6746 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:45:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7BFE181DE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7C3E240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7758B1CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425A41CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D57314156 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000B4314155 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC56960.8080608@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:45:52 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:45:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac56959112016789618724 > > I find macro in the field to be very difficult. If someone > would make a white tent to work in as a diffuser and wind break, I'd buy it. > Thanks for the comments. I finally pulled out an old light stand and used a spring clip to hold the branch in position for the leaf shots which helped a lot. I was trying to take advantage of the low angle morning sun for backlight. The backlit oof spider web was a rather pleasing to my eye surprise when I looked at the results on the big screen. I had no idea from the lcd preview. I use the light stand with an umbrella as a wind/sun shade if desired. I guess if I needed a really big tent I could set up the Costco canopy :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 04:48:32 2009 Received: (qmail 3634 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 02:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 02:48:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C91BE181CB for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEAFE240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4E1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644D31CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15933 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 02:48:24 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 04:48:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac56a00290231234514069 A Ken Burns creation. Comprehensive history and excellent photography. Highly recommended. I just finished watching episode 5 on the local PBS station less than an hour ago. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > I believe someone posted something about a National Parks TV series?! > > There is a free download on iTunes - behind the scenes look: > > http://tinyurl.com/yc9qf6r > > FYI. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 05:01:40 2009 Received: (qmail 27068 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 03:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 03:01:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C270E181B2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F7AE240D9 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98F41CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:01:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403631CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:01:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24401 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 03:01:31 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 03:01:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC56D0A.2050600@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:01:30 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC56960.8080608@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4AC56960.8080608@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 05:01:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac56d1487435034211378 There are lots of inexpensive, collapsible light tent soft boxes for sale on ebay. You could probably modify one for field work without too much difficulty. Here's a 30" for about $34 shipping included They come both smaller and larger. Search on "light tent". Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: >> I find macro in the field to be very difficult. If someone >> would make a white tent to work in as a diffuser and wind break, I'd buy it. >> > Thanks for the comments. I finally pulled out an old light stand and > used a spring clip to hold the branch in position for the leaf shots > which helped a lot. I was trying to take advantage of the low angle > morning sun for backlight. The backlit oof spider web was a rather > pleasing to my eye surprise when I looked at the results on the big > screen. I had no idea from the lcd preview. I use the light stand with > an umbrella as a wind/sun shade if desired. I guess if I needed a really > big tent I could set up the Costco canopy :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 05:30:50 2009 Received: (qmail 24237 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 03:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 03:30:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E5E181AC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48399E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E14434AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:30:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DC534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16703 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 03:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.65.110.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 03:30:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC573DA.4020404@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:30:34 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> <001a01ca4292$e7627bd0$b6277370$@com.au> <31360699.3851254406288106.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <31360699.3851254406288106.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 05:30:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac573ea254291560218263 Dawid Loubser wrote: > .... > So... as per my earlier request - does anybody have some real resolution / MTF figures for the 80/4.0? And, while > they are at it, size of image circle? Just to maintain my status as a pain in the ... Reference to "the 80/4.0" without specifying Manual or Auto version risks confusion and/or misinformation. The Auto version is not simply the older design with an auto diaphragm mechanism added. The shape and spacing of the elements is slightly different and we don't know whether the glass formulas may have changed. In most use, I doubt if there is much, if any, noticeable difference, but in "real resolution" tests, there well may be. Moose on Mt. Desert Island -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 05:33:23 2009 Received: (qmail 22269 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 03:33:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 03:33:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0435DE181BA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6DAE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222411CD494 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:33:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC11CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19215 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 03:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.65.110.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 03:33:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC57479.3000603@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:33:13 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 05:33:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac57483109721234514069 Mike Lazzari wrote: > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the > telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, > poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even > approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg > The middle two are Fab! Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 05:52:41 2009 Received: (qmail 19120 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 03:52:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 03:52:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC18E182E4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5738E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E801CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:52:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386451CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:52:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5891 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 03:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.65.110.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 03:52:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC578FE.7060505@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:52:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7ac27f4f0910011854u7328e8f4w1a439c276de06215@mail.gmail.com> <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 05:52:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac57909320141220213263 Ken Norton wrote: > I've been attempting to watch the series. Got them recording on the Satallite Receiver's DVR. > Yup, they will all be awaiting us upon our return. > My problem with Ken Burns' films is that they are perfect for curing insomnia. As my wife says: "The Voice!" > We were chatting in the kitchen with our last "hostess" when her husband called that "Acadia is on!". As we were leaving for it the next morning, we trooped in to watch. I didn't find it soporific, but our host was drifting in and out. For this episode, at least, the narration included many famous actors reading quotes from the historical figures. Our first day here found us wandering sort of randomly, starting point determined by the desire for a late breakfast. Found many lovely sights, a couple of the best being unmarked and unheralded in maps and guidebooks. (No, Bob, not there, yet.) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 05:58:14 2009 Received: (qmail 20116 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 03:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 03:58:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1838E18053 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D30AE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7B1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8061CD48B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11289 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 03:58:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.65.110.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 03:58:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC57A4C.6020205@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:58:04 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 05:58:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac57a56152361136683642 Ken Norton wrote: > ... > > I'm looking foward to your confirming everything I've been saying about this camera. Or at least a few things. > Yes, let us know when it starts talking to you while you use it. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 06:02:37 2009 Received: (qmail 7197 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 04:02:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 04:02:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E23BE1822B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A279EE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9893434AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D8034AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19907 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 04:02:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.65.110.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 04:02:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:02:23 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 06:02:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac57b5d131181234514069 Ws wrote: > ... Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. > Are you sure? I've yet to have such an experience from handling or using photo equipment, though. :-) A. Mystic Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 06:16:44 2009 Received: (qmail 24583 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 04:16:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 04:16:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7949E18236 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A148E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F9E1CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944D1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A082750987 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0201.4aa060f0.5424fc2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:16:37 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKxX6lKhH75AIAAAAB,a953cf07978fba5545634893d2f0f1ad X-Vipre-Scanned: 0A8870160015310A887163-TDI Message-ID: <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:16:44 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 06:16:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac57eac138291258626592 The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is using. Jim Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 06:46:36 2009 Received: (qmail 18292 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 04:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 04:46:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C80E181BA for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43E2E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A091A34AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D534AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:46:29 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n924kPeT016106 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:46:28 GMT Message-ID: <63191D6A4BEA4AB1A97648B75E4B7FBB@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN><4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 06:46:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac585ac30309730998309 Jim, I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on my computer. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Couch" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > > The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question > - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you > like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to > Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is > using. > > Jim Couch > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 06:48:07 2009 Received: (qmail 8063 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 04:48:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 04:48:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9B1E1824C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4D6E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4CE1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E911CD493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1022560gxk.8 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:48:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.5.8 with SMTP id h8mr3689632ybi.10.1254458881721; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:48:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:48:01 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910012148t54b4b040k97ac4a8a1dd89caf@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 06:48:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58607220261879814018 Lightroom 2. It's the best thing since sliced eggs. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Jim Couch wrote: > > The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question > - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you > like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to > Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is > using. > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:15:17 2009 Received: (qmail 19309 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:15:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB10E182A5 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A573E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9431CD489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655261CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E06C97AC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:47 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:15:08 +0100 Message-Id: <3DE2BB95-768E-4058-88D8-1089B13026AC@threeshoes.net> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:15:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58c6536572013633067 Jim I use Apple's Aperture so that I have conversion and organisation in one. LightRoom would probably be good as well. Olympus Master is a horrible programme which looks as badly thought out as some of the menu systems on Olympus cameras. LightZone (www.lightcrafts.com) works very well as well, except that it uses the filing system that you already have. Chris On 2 Oct 2009, at 05:16, Jim Couch wrote: > > The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a > question > - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you > like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new > to > Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is > using. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:18:44 2009 Received: (qmail 3123 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:18:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32900E18229 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20728E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB841CD489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:18:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91AE1CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:18:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so671182bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:18:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr203740hba.62.1254460717098; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:18:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910012148t54b4b040k97ac4a8a1dd89caf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <7ac27f4f0910012148t54b4b040k97ac4a8a1dd89caf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d28955d269b411e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:18:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58d34253041744846740 I'm using Studio2 for processing E-1 files. For Minolta A1 files nothing beats Raw Shooter (RIP). I know it's popular sport to pick on manufacturers' software and Republican vice-presidential candidates, but in this case Studio2 is actually quite there. The workflow is different than Lightroom, but not necessarily bad. Lightroom really is a good program, but it is less than stellar with E-3 files. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:22:14 2009 Received: (qmail 23294 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:22:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C932E181AE for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A7DE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5D34AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B2034AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21AEC96C7 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:52:43 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:22:05 +0100 Message-Id: <56644A2E-D6B1-4CDC-B85B-93203DD98292@threeshoes.net> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:22:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58e06219672439112457 In case I was in danger of judging Master only by its appearance I have just had a go at one of my recent .ORF files. It works quite slowly compared with Aperture, and its controls are quite limited. But the worst aspect of all? It has no Quit function: you have to click on the window close button to quit the programme. Even Photoshop is better suited to a Mac user than that ... Chris On 2 Oct 2009, at 03:44, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I wasn't aware that Olympus Master was so limited. Glad I'm not > using it. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:23:31 2009 Received: (qmail 14371 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:23:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:23:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB06E181B2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDADE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286EC3610002 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B931A34AC026 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.151]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 77654 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 05:22:44 -0000 Message-ID: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: tkvlOF0VM1lWLKFMulpi132JbtcQHrT4BX9M76dAGhRwpG0.jzFBssKM1mtIKGX_B8CjPekX1BqfKAUzcn5SKwtyhHPoi8DuzJ4IqBJ1Vi4oDl2jR0ZvgK1XpTrpQolzaPWIjgs1A9c5stNeBJR_p_7N2k7gKSHKXzdQZqhU0.XlM3d4HlU5CzBlfHR6XltMNR2XHlIUmudYbsb8tZB6PZfXiBIumdc4GOvwcKCalOOL.XpQdjgmd_P0n1PVicgZMzdTnbCZBbMBq7Q.fma7j0gxP3TRst0DcCyDfmS8D9Us4MN_NOwAADpWCuin8Al2EyEZuvB_39HYhpqDP9.d4FmckHZdyaVz_9OSV.nbK4mLKmKfrRM6zsZP_TiYQtkUiLWTlD4Acft13HWuX3bXBuG_hx8RMVmayR3JRhSVHnVgMWK5pT4Qm9MqlnBtHz2nxRmh6nWdrSS8zUkyUfYRtPRxQLGMZdIdVOE_tX3IwFBAtaKwj0oLYcfOwjavIbXRxCNFw9IMY8IDEy1txL0Swj7G6wY4v_AVvhLLdibc_QGfzKqYYZzgZyF1v4H1Y7fajHo- Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:22:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:23:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58e5342149730998309 Actually, the diesel engine has changed a lot since the 80's. =A0 It starts just as well in cold temperatures as itsgasoline counterparts, do= zent stink anymore, it is more reliable and economical... =A0 I think what AG is hinting is that the Jeeps offered her equipped with dies= el (Dizel) engines are coupled with crummy transmissions.=A0 One thing that= =A0he furgot to=A0mention tho, is the fact that the real Jeeps really don't= have this problem...:) =A0 The Liberty (aka Cherokee for the rest of the world), Patriot, Compass aren= t really Jeeps.=A0 They fall into the category of the Touareg, Land Rover e= tc.=A0 Cars that you haul your groceries with, take your girls to a soccer = practice with, but cant really take out in the wilderness. =A0 Boris =A0 P.S. Yeah, I know...Real Jeeps are built not bought...:) =A0 =A0 Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 from Charles Geilfuss [Permanent=A0Link] Subject: = Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 From: = Charles Geilfuss Date: = Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:01:50 -0400 AG, Not sure why you would want a Jeep diesel. As you point out they are notoriously unreliable and don't get much better mileage than the gas powered v6. Is that little bit of extra torque rally worth the hassle? Charlie On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > The UK and continent also get a lot of very potent diesels that don't s= ee > > the light of day over here..... > > > > Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep > with > the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the worl= d, > but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% > transmission failures. > > Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > IDIOTS! > > It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy for > Chrysler or GM. > > Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could > achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. > > DON'T get me started. > > AG > -- = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:28:39 2009 Received: (qmail 8732 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:28:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E323E18246 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17C8E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF01A1CD48D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF99E1CD489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n925SWGw029542 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:28:32 +1000 Message-Id: <200910020528.n925SWGw029542@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:28:32 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:28:32 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:28:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac58f87113432439112457 I'm using RawTherapee, better user interface than the Oly Master, produces jpgs that are good enough for me. ...Wayne > Jim Couch wrote: > > > The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question > - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you > like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to > Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is > using. > > Jim Couch > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:32:48 2009 Received: (qmail 28187 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:32:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BE1E181B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43861E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279C434AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36B534AC025 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.149]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20409 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 05:32:36 -0000 Message-ID: <387852.19956.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XeNPwBgVM1knyee.0bSN8JWIuRI0xWadBrIkfC.bhTjEwl2lCxEzgun40lWSXKWlt0olgr.ofMURUiwC444D2GIwp_cGiTwJgd3kQHzuGO3wrUgwjMOwikCemSZGNnyUG2I9zcYL_xQC2mi2NuDNF39EgTTr0ncSG0QBypk4JwKHXkJf_97JwQ7_2dw5p4QUCxL9vYdBPt0hqH5V5tssEeMW3uSyAbhSvd7JhaFQTAsbOavcU3w5WZBhtBUe.zL8zXGPI6uxQ7iDZlQaTjBdpjHtJxY3p3e.xMRXq9Le8CoBXu6VrUA8Z72b3rl88LM.hljchVHupuBJ5N14GASa8hjGVvV56MIKrxKygKn1hLAStW1w81ZmNd705sjUMN3i6C5zXpO82HghP.Z6E_HFnQ-- Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:32:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:32:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:32:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5908056101879814018 Naaaaaaaaah, =A0 You gotta come to the Northeast, we all talk like that, some of us with an = accent...:) =A0 We thought that the series would be broadcasted every Sunday for the next s= ix weeks.=A0 So we watched it on Sunday and missed everything else.=A0 =A0 Bummer =A0 Boris =A0 =A0 =A0 Ken Norton wrote: > I've been attempting to watch the series. Got them recording on the Satal= lite = > Receiver's DVR. >=A0=A0 = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:40:19 2009 Received: (qmail 23425 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:40:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:40:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0854E1822B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFEFE240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFB61CD489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F201CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:40:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so676693bwz.14 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:40:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.153 with SMTP id 25mr163794hbj.13.1254462011121; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:40:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:40:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 365b53825261fca7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:40:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac59243144891342116753 > > The Liberty (aka Cherokee for the rest of the world), Patriot, Compass > arent really Jeeps. They fall into the category of the Touareg, Land Rover > etc. Cars that you haul your groceries with, take your girls to a soccer > practice with, but cant really take out in the wilderness. > Granted, they aren't CJ Wranglers with Rubucon upgrades, but the Liberty actually has redeemed itself quite well as a decent Jeep. My wife and I have a pair of full-blown Grand Cherokees and the reality is, the Grand Cherokee will go places that will make your toes curl. But the old style Cherokee that was around from 1983 to 2001 (ish) was definitely the best of the bunch for balancing off-road prowess with relative road comfort. You just can't kill those things very easily. The Patriot and Compass literally are cars with all-wheel drive (not even 4WD) under them. Garbage. I do take my GC out in the wilderness. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:43:50 2009 Received: (qmail 24307 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:43:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:43:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1FEE18245 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AD3E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D701CD489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D611CD488 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22203 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 05:43:43 -0000 Message-ID: <458755.21540.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BaMqTYMVM1kOt673grVEteJiQ7pjqDrfrh2fWl.38rpFEBn97YLhaXAa7Qxy5zLzZOyLlp1BsIF2XuV6GVKx1f8o.cJKqM42DlvzrjYNPi0TAKFWTRtZa.6QTTwAQvfqfP4mnWOLljUezm9dk1bm2T6JiZoGr.VcSC1FiyyCMt50ET61AS8G4nNPujXuWmHE2U2gX0enkVeRqiy7gXqLWKAOX4NPWn.d.Z1IZRtO5m0qrmP6xtcIr9kLJebYbYiMxidE8M5SvafTtYi6gUfvbazwNXSE2kCKqyWwlwddHMrj3zwNA6wrkq5bAvZJQlbGdBg8lIX0Fekpy7NarcXB37GI1pMD6jxqucn_.UPnjSVrHXldfav_.62t7TzB525buwk2_cdLwYCRbS920LNK5Rvyc.mlrQU75NTXFB.eA8OX0RWfuXvnx0c88i4pq1XLPspBg45C7xI.3oEkGzc3abAIqUxwPJZ6RHcL6IqcLQGYjLTAZNXuZqslX54UufATmgkSiIJenNef11SIBEZVpX8GMdAF3jyjudOtqLYQJsI9e0mUQ1sNM2dVsthJdt7HZvNm Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:43:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] OM] Because I Was There, Photographing At Yosemite X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:43:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac59316168035683411216 ...and you have succeeded...:) =A0 Just kidding.=A0 Yo da man. =A0 I really, really like the b+w stuff,=A0and to the lesser extend=A0the color= , but I have been known to=A0be bias.=A0 I am envious...in a good way =A0 Boris =A0 =A0 OM] Because I Was There, Photographing At Yosemite from Richard Man [Permanent=A0Link] Subject: = [OM] Because I Was There, Photographing At Yosemite From: = Richard Man Date: = Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:54:16 -0700 As I was carrying two cameras hiking down the Panoramic Trail in Yosemite, one of the oft-heard comments was "you can't take bad pictures at Yosemite." A couple times, I jokingly replied, "yes, but I can try!" The rest at http://wp.me/poYBs-5P = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:44:43 2009 Received: (qmail 15081 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:44:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CB2E1822D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E749E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302534AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:44:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AB434AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n925iUUY010384 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:44:31 +1000 Message-Id: <200910020544.n925iUUY010384@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:44:30 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:44:30 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:44:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5934b154261357919056 > Chris Barker wrote: > > But the worst aspect of all? It has no Quit function: you have to > click on the window close button to quit the programme. > That sounds difficult ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 07:54:28 2009 Received: (qmail 25931 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 05:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 05:54:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B20EE18236 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F809E240B4 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB26734AC027 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2255934AC024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-064.ctimail.com [61.93.57.64]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n925sKsH032111 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:54:21 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n925sKoi010626 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:54:20 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <76E2EA0517934AAA879959D5DE116EBD@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200910020544.n925iUUY010384@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:54:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 07:54:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5959496931234514069 Chris might have an old version Olympus Master. In the Master 2, you can click File-Exit or just press Ctrl-Q to quite the program. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Harridge" > > > >> Chris Barker wrote: >> >> But the worst aspect of all? It has no Quit function: you have to >> click on the window close button to quit the programme. >> > > That sounds difficult ! > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 09:14:58 2009 Received: (qmail 16724 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 07:14:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 07:14:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC47E182A5 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DACE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6881CD486 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:14:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A72E1CD485 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14072410.3961254468458494.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 795 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:27:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:14:26 +0200 References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 09:14:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5a872185793900897491 At 1:40? Duh. Of course the 80/4.0 is ging to be poor at 1:40, it's made for 1:1. That's why the 135/4.5 appears better. Also, GAry notes "slight pincusion distortion", but in this lens' intended range it should have zero distortion, since it's supposed to be the perfect slide copying lens. At 1:2 to 2:1 the 80/4.0 should pretty much be without peer in the world of "mere mortal" lenses - I think that only the Ultra Micro Nikkor lenses should best it in terms of resolution. Am I wrong? On 01 Oct 2009, at 5:34 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > Here is Gary Reese's lens test for the 80 F4 lens: > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=254&Itemid=97 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 09:18:56 2009 Received: (qmail 8943 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 07:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 07:18:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C68E181A8 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3C2E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EEE34AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2754C34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 179 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:31:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:18:37 +0200 References: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 09:18:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5a96071422517112723 Excellent! I didn't know it was T-mount, but my plan was to use a busted old 90/3.8 or 127/3.8 yes. I am going to persue this further, that's for sure. OM lenses are great for Macro, but a leaf-shuttered 6x7cm SLR camera body is sure a heck of a lot nicer for Macro - heavy and vibrationless. Thanks very much for letting me know about that. Dawid On 02 Oct 2009, at 2:43 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Dawid Loubser wrote: >> >> >> Did you guys know the 20/3.5 can cover 4x5in film at its optimum >> working magnification? Also, my pet project >> sometime will be to find a way to stick it onto my RB67 - 6x7cm at >> 12x >> magnification, with vibration-less leaf >> shutter sounds like heaven to me, assuming I can focus the thing. >> > > There is a simple way to mount just about any lens on an RB67. > First obtain one of the original 90/3.8 lenses (not a "C" or "K/L") > with a working shutter (doesn't matter about the glass). Unscrew > the rear element group (comes out as a unit) and unscrew the front > element group (also comes out as a unit). The thread in the front > of the shutter body is 42mmx0.75mm (T-mount !). You need to then > obtain a short (20-25mm from memory) T-mount extension tube and > screw this into the front of the shutter body as this thread is > deeply recessed in the shutter body. From there you can add just > about any lens using various adapters. > > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 09:22:51 2009 Received: (qmail 6966 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 07:22:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 07:22:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A641FE182A7 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C47E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E3034AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:21:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1118F34AC028 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:21:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11149053.3981254468863021.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 501 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:34:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC573DA.4020404@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:21:25 +0200 References: <3438120.3761254380672755.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <001601ca428b$198ed980$4cac8c80$@com.au> <001a01ca4292$e7627bd0$b6277370$@com.au> <31360699.3851254406288106.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4AC573DA.4020404@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 09:22:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5aa4a163336107113666 Ah yes - well, I have access to a really (really) cheap manual version of this lens. The optical design only appears to be every so slightly altered, literally just some element spacing etc. I can't imagine a major difference, rather simply one of those "persuit of perfection" things. I am happy to assume that both lenses will have very, very similar performance. On 02 Oct 2009, at 5:30 AM, Moose wrote: > Dawid Loubser wrote: >> .... >> So... as per my earlier request - does anybody have some real >> resolution / MTF figures for the 80/4.0? And, while >> they are at it, size of image circle? > > Just to maintain my status as a pain in the ... > > Reference to "the 80/4.0" without specifying Manual or Auto version > risks confusion and/or misinformation. The Auto version is not simply > the older design with an auto diaphragm mechanism added. The shape and > spacing of the elements is slightly different and we don't know > whether > the glass formulas may have changed. > > In most use, I doubt if there is much, if any, noticeable difference, > but in "real resolution" tests, there well may be. > > Moose on Mt. Desert Island > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 09:23:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10440 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 07:23:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 07:23:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E936E18212 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C26E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDED934AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:23:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5646334AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:23:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93765C97C4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:54:29 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <200910020544.n925iUUY010384@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:23:50 +0100 Message-Id: References: <200910020544.n925iUUY010384@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 09:23:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5aa8f87181220213263 Heh! Not difficult, merely tedious. I like using the keyboard; and to close a window in a Mac prog is just that, not to quit the cra**y programme. Chris On 2 Oct 2009, at 06:44, Wayne Harridge wrote: >> >> But the worst aspect of all? It has no Quit function: you have to >> click on the window close button to quit the programme. >> > > That sounds difficult ! > > ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 09:28:56 2009 Received: (qmail 170 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 07:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 07:28:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318D5E1822E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58F3E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FA534AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5062834AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4E6C97A3 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:59:27 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <76E2EA0517934AAA879959D5DE116EBD@MAIN> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:28:48 +0100 Message-Id: <517B4878-C90A-4DCE-88D9-4C4ACDDE6F20@threeshoes.net> References: <200910020544.n925iUUY010384@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <76E2EA0517934AAA879959D5DE116EBD@MAIN> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 09:28:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5abb8321261234514069 Thanks, CH, but I have the latest version and there is no File menu. Cmd-Q gives me a bleep. Perhaps they just removed the File menu when porting it to the Mac. Chris On 2 Oct 2009, at 06:54, C.H.Ling wrote: > Chris might have an old version Olympus Master. In the Master 2, you > can > click File-Exit or just press Ctrl-Q to quite the program. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Harridge" > >> >> >>> Chris Barker wrote: >>> >>> But the worst aspect of all? It has no Quit function: you have to >>> click on the window close button to quit the programme. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 12:55:47 2009 Received: (qmail 239 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 10:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 10:55:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA96E18061 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006B7E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D854334AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836A434AC028 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so1091689yxe.22 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:55:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.56.14 with SMTP id e14mr2654767ana.74.1254480938609; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:55:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:55:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 12:55:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5dc33170191073733319 2009/10/2 Andrew Fildes: > > My best pinhole so far (er, nudity warning) - > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/117690547 > (5D2, Bowens Striplight, my mate Andy's f192 home made pinhole) > This is more fun than sharp. Shame the magazine won't use it. > ("We're a family magazine - the publisher's family and they don't > approve"). > Andrew Fildes Poor kids if they aren't allowed to see this natural beauty... I suppose they never visit a museum with classic art either and the bathroom doors have locks in the house :) Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 12:59:39 2009 Received: (qmail 23232 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 10:59:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 10:59:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4DBE1829E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D2EE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3485619E1EA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8019E1E6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:59:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7216 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 10:59:31 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 12:59:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5dd1b49281413256596 Assuming that ACR is the same in Elements as in PS one can (in PS) set preferences -> file handling -> prefer ACR for JPEG such that opening a JPEG in PhotoShop will first open it in ACR and also do an 8 to 16 bit conversion to minimize posterization during ACR editing. When the image opens in PS it will still be in 16 bit form and needs to be converted back down to 8 bits if you're going to save as JPEG again. Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > Jim, > > I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop > Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as > JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on my > computer. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Couch" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM > Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > > >> The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question >> - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you >> like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to >> Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is >> using. >> >> Jim Couch >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 13:07:05 2009 Received: (qmail 4504 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 11:07:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 11:07:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115DAE1824D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6F0E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A1F19E1F6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:06:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9F19E1F0 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:06:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n92B6tSA013179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:06:56 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:06:49 +1000 Message-ID: <000001ca4350$714f2f60$53ed8e20$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpDMJa9l9f5VchvQ8q3RP3Pv6PLxgAHzGAg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 13:07:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ded924401006886880 > > Excellent! I didn't know it was T-mount, but my plan was to use a > busted old 90/3.8 or 127/3.8 yes. > > I am going to persue this further, that's for sure. OM lenses are > great for Macro, but a leaf-shuttered > 6x7cm SLR camera body is sure a heck of a lot nicer for Macro - heavy > and vibrationless. > > Thanks very much for letting me know about that. > Dawid > Ok, now I'm back at home, here are a few images: 90/3.8 lens body + 20mm T-mount ext. tube + OM Reverse T-mount adapter http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/test/images/rbom-2.jpg Mounted on RB67 with Zuiko 135/4.5 http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/test/images/rbom-1.jpg I don't know what the full coverage is, but this lens covers the full 6x7 frame when the bellows is racked back to the normal infinity position of the RB. ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 13:26:15 2009 Received: (qmail 19779 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 11:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 11:26:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BA2E1822B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E1E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF0134AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:26:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C3934AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:26:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29643 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 11:24:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] White-balance / colour balance issues... What to do? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 13:26:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5e357136776107113666 Be sure to let us know how you get on after a while with your new workflow. The DPReview comments on timing and file sizes will give you some insight into what you can expect for raw and raw + JPEG. They are impressed with the write speed. But that's using the Compact Flash (CF) card and not the xD card. I hope your CF card pin didn't break off from trying to insert a Smart Media card. Chuck Norcutt Olaf Greve wrote: > Hi all, > > Wow, all of this information is excellent and a BIG eye opener! > I had figured the WB to work differently, and would never have guessed > (without RTFM-ing, that is) the implementation as explained by Chuck. > Good to know all this! > > I think I'll give Chuck's proposed approach a go: set it to "daylight" > WB (and override that when shooting indoors, without flash), and to RAW > + JPEG mode. The downside: my smart media slot is damaged (one of the > pins broke off), so I'll have to make-do with the XD slot, and last time > I checked, XD cards have a max. of 2GB. Anyway, that'll mean more often > downloading to the computer then... > > Anyway: I must say that I was previously almost always very satisfied > with the results my C2020 Zoom gave me, and that this has much less > often been the case for the E-500. Good to know some of the possible > reasons for that! I now know what to experiment with, and in which way, > so I shall do so, and I'm curious as to the results. > > Cheers! > Olafo -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 13:33:02 2009 Received: (qmail 14211 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 11:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 11:33:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B01AE181D6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50270E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447F634AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:32:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE09334AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4146 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 11:30:16 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 11:30:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC5E447.1080306@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:30:15 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <000001ca4350$714f2f60$53ed8e20$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <000001ca4350$714f2f60$53ed8e20$@com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 13:33:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5e4ee110901950411718 Pretty neat. I see RB67s are selling at KEH for pretty cheap. And they seem to have lots of them. Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Excellent! I didn't know it was T-mount, but my plan was to use a >> busted old 90/3.8 or 127/3.8 yes. >> >> I am going to persue this further, that's for sure. OM lenses are >> great for Macro, but a leaf-shuttered >> 6x7cm SLR camera body is sure a heck of a lot nicer for Macro - heavy >> and vibrationless. >> >> Thanks very much for letting me know about that. >> Dawid >> > > Ok, now I'm back at home, here are a few images: > > 90/3.8 lens body + 20mm T-mount ext. tube + OM Reverse T-mount adapter > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/test/images/rbom-2.jpg > > Mounted on RB67 with Zuiko 135/4.5 > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/test/images/rbom-1.jpg > > I don't know what the full coverage is, but this lens covers the full 6x7 > frame when the bellows is racked back to the normal infinity position of the > RB. > > ...Wayne > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:00:37 2009 Received: (qmail 620 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:00:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:00:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D79E181AC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BECEE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D419E361 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:00:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8BE19E352 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n92C0ScF005267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:00:29 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <000001ca4350$714f2f60$53ed8e20$@com.au> <4AC5E447.1080306@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC5E447.1080306@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:00:22 +1000 Message-ID: <000101ca4357$ec1e39a0$c45aace0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpDVBmkxYsYY6JWTwuvg5qThstCOQAAt/Ow Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:00:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5eb65266861234514069 > > Pretty neat. I see RB67s are selling at KEH for pretty cheap. And > they > seem to have lots of them. > Yes, they're a real bargain now, also lenses for them are very reasonable too. You can put together a very good kit for the price of a Hasselblad body. ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:04:35 2009 Received: (qmail 17446 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:04:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04612E181BA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FE8E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDB519E36B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F38019E35C for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 732 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 12:04:27 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-172.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.172) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 12:04:27 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:04:23 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Ws In-Reply-To: <4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> <4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:04:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ec53242881413256596 At 12:02 AM 10/2/2009, you wrote: >Ws wrote: >> ... Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. >> > >Are you sure? > >I've yet to have such an experience from handling or using photo >equipment, though. :-) > >A. Mystic Moose I could be wrong about how far spiritual ecstasy can go. Ultimately it is a choice we allow ourselves to have. WS PS, All my church farts were of the silent type. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:09:36 2009 Received: (qmail 1039 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:09:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97C8E181B9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA189E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721EF19E3A6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:09:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFD319E390 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:09:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12537549.4121254486144001.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 918 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:22:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <000101ca4357$ec1e39a0$c45aace0$@com.au> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:09:26 +0200 References: <200910020043.n920hI0k024852@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <6494065.3971254468694782.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <000001ca4350$714f2f60$53ed8e20$@com.au> <4AC5E447.1080306@chucknorcutt.com> <000101ca4357$ec1e39a0$c45aace0$@com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:09:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ed80209865368819438 Mamiya RB lenses (Sekor-C series and later) are consistently the best lenses I have ever used on an SLR camera. e.g. the 65mm (wide angle) is what I would consider to be a perfect lens, never seen a 35mm lens perform like this. Wide open, bright lights in the very corners at night, not a shred of CA or coma, super-hight resolution. Yessirreee, I does enjoys my RBs.... On 02 Oct 2009, at 2:00 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Yes, they're a real bargain now, also lenses for them are very > reasonable > too. You can put together a very good kit for the price of a > Hasselblad > body. > > ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:13:41 2009 Received: (qmail 11136 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:13:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:13:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B439E18246 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7A9E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889BA34AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6AE34AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sctroy@erols.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 08:13:35 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFI12391; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: sctroy Received: from 216-164-199-27.s1551.apx1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com (HELO PAB0180015360A.erols.com) ([216.164.199.27]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 08:13:33 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20091002081235.01df28d0@erols.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:13:32 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Stephen Troy In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:13:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ee75296721006886880 At 05:47 PM 10/1/2009, AG Schnozz wrote: >But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where >having said cameras came in handy. Right? Well, you certainly don't need a 3Ti or two to take photos of trains. It does make it more fun, though. Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:18:53 2009 Received: (qmail 1110 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:18:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349CEE182AA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894ACE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2DC34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B29634AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-vw0-f178.google.com (mail-vw0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws8 with SMTP id 8so817884vws.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:18:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.88.18 with SMTP id q18mr4221550ybl.307.1254485926276; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:18:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:18:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:18:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5efad98601136683642 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Jim Couch wrote: > > The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question > - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you > like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to > Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is > using. Jim, My pretend cousin IanW/Swisspace and I ran into a problem in that with Lightroom (me) and Aperture (him) the RAW conversions didn't match jpgs. If this fact does not bother you, then sample all of the available converters and just settle on one whose workflow you like. Why is it important, to me at least, that the jpgs match the RAW file file? Initially, I want to know that I am getting what Olympus thinks the camera should be producing colorwise. If the jpg says one thing and the converted image another -- based on the same in-camera settings -- then my conclusion is that I am not getting Olympus color from the very outset of the process. Since I shoot RAW, I use in-camera settings which I then immediately change, so it is not a question of my really, ultimately wanting the converted image to match the jpg. I just don't want non-Olympus color at the outset. At first I was enamoured of Lightroom for a host of reasons, but ultimately its color rendition doesn't look like Olympus color. It's not that it's not nice, but I'm looking initially for the Rock of Biblical Truth in Olympus Color, which comes by way of the Olympus software. Every other decision is really a pig in a poke to me. If the question is about workflow, then that's entirely another matter. So I'd just recommend you try a number of different converters and compare how the RAW file converts without changing in-camera settings to a jpg with those same settings. If it is satisfactory to you, then consider other things like workflow, etc. If you start with considerations like workflow, the aesthetics of the program on screen, and so forth, you're really off on a tangent when it comes to the real purpose of the RAW converter. I really enjoyed Lightroom for all those tertiary things, but it has its own ideas about color. For what I do (on a PC) I have a reasonable workflow using FastStone to manage files, navigate, and view, Studio2 to do RAW conversion with fairly minimal settings changes, and finish up in Photoshop (mine is the original CS -- I'm not very up to date but it's got everything I need, and since I don't use it to convert RAW, I'm off their upgrade treadmill). If I were doing this again, I'd just try to use Master2 in place of Studio2, since I don't use many of the features of Studio2 anyway. Master2 seems to connect better for firmware updates too. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:34:01 2009 Received: (qmail 10918 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:33:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA5AE18065 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F357E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501C019E410 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:33:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8732619E3F0 for ; 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:50:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5f731154021879814018 SBD's?? >>> Ws 10/2/2009 8:04 AM >>> At 12:02 AM 10/2/2009, you wrote: >Ws wrote: >> ... Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. >> > >Are you sure? > >I've yet to have such an experience from handling or using photo >equipment, though. :-) > >A. Mystic Moose I could be wrong about how far spiritual ecstasy can go. Ultimately it is a choice we allow ourselves to have. WS PS, All my church farts were of the silent type. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:55:09 2009 Received: (qmail 4287 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:55:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69663E181CC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AE3E240B4 for ; 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:55:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5f845273995034211378 Stereo Trains with TTL FP auto flash? iwert 2009/10/2 Stephen Troy : > At 05:47 PM 10/1/2009, AG Schnozz wrote: > >>But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where >>having said cameras came in handy. =A0Right? > > > Well, you certainly don't need a 3Ti or two to take photos of > trains. =A0 It does make it more fun, though. > > Steve Troy -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 14:55:52 2009 Received: (qmail 10331 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 12:55:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 12:55:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5952EE18061 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14678E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A97734AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C195834AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW000FQ18HNI1E@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:55:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC5F847.6020906@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:55:35 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 14:55:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5f858263611342116753 I am glad you're happy with it. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Oh, how sweet it is! Yes, I know it is just a camera and in this case it > is the OM 3Ti. As John said, it doesn't look to have been used. It will > now. The stable is full and I have no need for an M-1. A very happy > camper. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:00:47 2009 Received: (qmail 24783 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:00:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:00:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38827E181AE for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BADE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC9134AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935B634AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW0062F1GV2EI2@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:00:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:00:36 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> In-reply-to: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:00:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5f97f40136107113666 Maybe I don't count but I had 3 before I sold the one to Bill. CFO wifey would just stare at me when I suggested keeping more than one. ;-) ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Stephen Troy wrote: > At 05:21 PM 10/1/2009, Bill Barber wrote: >> Yes, it is a rather religious experience or at least a spiritual one. >> Bill Barber > > > > My brother and I each have two 3Ti's. Anyone else have more than > one, or are we the strange ones here? > > Steve Troy > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:03:52 2009 Received: (qmail 3360 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:03:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AC4E18245 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBECAE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01FA34AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726FF34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW00JZL1KWOYSA@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:02:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC5FA05.8060706@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:03:01 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC3E541.3080701@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910011147t7a7e60e6uf5f5b6e9776e13bc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172428.01dd3b78@erols.com> <4AC53ED3.8050708@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4AC53ED3.8050708@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to Californa X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:03:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5fa388035683411216 http://www.zuiko.com/album/Places%20&%20Things/slides/Half-Dome.html ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > > Chuck Norcutt > > Stephen Troy wrote: >> At 02:47 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: >>> Johan, >>> You won't regret a second if you go out of your way for Yosemite. It is >>> jaw-dropping gorgeous, especially that first view at the western tunnel >>> entrance. I almost ran off the road. >>> >>> Charlie >> >> And the view from the end of Glacier Point Road is the most stunning >> vista you'll ever see - if you get there, make the drive to Glacier Point. >> >> The Western tunnel entrance has recently been redone, with nice >> parking and viewing platforms. Ansel never had it this good. >> >> Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:08:46 2009 Received: (qmail 32506 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:08:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCE0E181BA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BB9E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFBB34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22AC34AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ed.sawyer@unh.edu whitelisted) Received: from exchange.unh.edu (ray.ad.unh.edu [132.177.152.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skate.ad.unh.edu ([169.254.3.159]) by ray.ad.unh.edu ([132.177.152.6]) with mapi; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:08:38 -0400 From: "Sawyer, Edward" To: "'olympus@thomasclausen.net'" Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:08:38 -0400 Thread-Topic: macro test data, Cobras, et al. Thread-Index: AcpC8u4qZJaIdPraTTeRdARDS5qdvQAbZWmQ Message-ID: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F93@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] macro test data, Cobras, et al. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:08:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5fb5e21161136683642 Sadly, Modern Photo and Pop Photo seem to have never tested the 80/4, 135/4.5, 20/3.5, 38, 20/2, etc. They did test the 90/2, 50/3.5, 50/2. I don't know of any formalized lens test/MTF data that's been published on those. Clay, is the cobra an original or modern one? (E.g. FactoryFive, Superformance, etc.?) I've driven several modern ones, as an instructor for a few local track clubs. (BMWCCA, COMSCC, SCDA, SCCA, etc.) They are pretty fun and fast, though sometimes a bit challenging to drive. I drove a Superformance on track that had a 428CJ motor with a SC, somewhere north of 500hp. It was crazy fast but hard to drive - no power steering (!). Up at high speeds they tend to be a little squirrely due to the poor aerodynamics. You should considering taking it to a track event. Likely a local BMWCCA near you runs some. Much safer than speeding on public roads, and you'll learn more in one day on the track than in your whole life up to now, about driving fast, the limits of the car and yourself, etc. I've driven/instructed at Watkins Glen, NHIS/NHMS, Lime Rock, Mt. Tremblant, Putnam Park, Summit Pt., and others. Watkins Glen is probably my favorite. -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:26:16 2009 Received: (qmail 449 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:26:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81949E181B9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C83E24AA2 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3405A19E6DA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D01E19E6CC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so927771bwz.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:26:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.143 with SMTP id t15mr216715hbt.92.1254489968674; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:26:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:26:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a8c5f79d72fcd884 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:26:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ff78160847801554290 > > Maybe I don't count but I had 3 before I sold the one to Bill. CFO > wifey would just stare at me when I suggested keeping more than one. ;-) > Oh, that makes me happy. You DID keep one for yourself!!!! The world of known OM-3Ti cameras just increased by a significant amount. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:27:16 2009 Received: (qmail 30807 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:27:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA20E182B8 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF8AE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF6719E6CC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CF519E6D1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1479897gxk.8 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.233.3 with SMTP id f3mr1726815ybh.148.1254490008395; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:26:48 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910020626g2a88fc91r1121bfbb921448e3@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:27:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ffb482275683411216 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > Maybe I don't count but I had 3 before I sold the one to Bill. =A0CFO > wifey would just stare at me when I suggested keeping more than one. ;-) You certainly do count, John. I'm glad to know you will have one for yourself. At least one, that is. I can't think of anyone who should have one if you don't. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:27:17 2009 Received: (qmail 2847 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:27:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28A0E182A7 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910EE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BEC19E6CB for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C3019E6B6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ed.sawyer@unh.edu whitelisted) Received: from exchange.unh.edu (mako.ad.unh.edu [132.177.152.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skate.ad.unh.edu ([169.254.3.159]) by mako.ad.unh.edu ([132.177.152.5]) with mapi; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:26:55 -0400 From: "Sawyer, Edward" To: "'olympus@thomasclausen.net'" Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:26:55 -0400 Thread-Topic: 80 macro, etc. Thread-Index: AcpDSY3SsNxnKtDQSTKJEPRzzxpMxAAGZqBA Message-ID: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:27:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac5ffb5193961136683642 Well, don't read too much into it. Is it without peer? Not likely. I am sure the Coastal Optics 60 macro beats it, as does many others most likely. It was a good lens, but not a world-beater. It was priced reasonably when new, so clearly had to have some compromises built into the design. I would think the Apo Rodagon 75/4 enlarger lens would be better. Klaus (a guy in Germany, active on many manual focus forums) has about the best macro collection in the world, and could likely give more info on how it stacks up. (He may even be on this list? I am not sure). All the Oly macros are good, no doubt. There's some overlap of functionality between them. But really, let's not go overboard on presuming it to be the world's best lens in that focal length. If you can get one cheap, it's worth having. Generally they don't command crazy money, $200-ish or so for the ones I've seen change hands lately. -Ed > At 1:40? Duh. Of course the 80/4.0 is ging to be poor at 1:40, it's > made for 1:1. That's why the > 135/4.5 appears better. Also, GAry notes "slight pincusion > distortion", but in this lens' > intended range it should have zero distortion, since it's supposed to > be the perfect slide > copying lens. > > At 1:2 to 2:1 the 80/4.0 should pretty much be without peer in the > world of "mere mortal" > lenses - I think that only the Ultra Micro Nikkor lenses should best > it in terms of > resolution. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:29:09 2009 Received: (qmail 27409 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:29:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7736E181CF for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D881E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7B34AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79F734AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW0000F2RH62QE@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:28:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC60003.4090309@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:28:35 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:29:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac60025235431946193717 It started last Sunday on PBS. 2 -2.5 hours each night. Very interesting and beautiful. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html AS wrote: > I believe someone posted something about a National Parks TV series?! > > There is a free download on iTunes - behind the scenes look: > > http://tinyurl.com/yc9qf6r > > FYI. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:30:11 2009 Received: (qmail 6435 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:30:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB0E1829D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C575E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E04719E6DD for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4F719E6D5 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW00GXE2TBT80B@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:29:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC60045.8050102@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:29:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7ac27f4f0910011854u7328e8f4w1a439c276de06215@mail.gmail.com> <509522.32377.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:30:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac60063204051560218263 Voices by Peter Coyote, Tom Hanks, Adam Arkin and many others. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > I've been attempting to watch the series. Got them recording on the > Satallite Receiver's DVR. > My problem with Ken Burns' films is that they are perfect for curing > insomnia. As my wife says: "The Voice!" > > AG Schnozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:35:17 2009 Received: (qmail 5252 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:35:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:35:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1A7E1829E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9D7E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E9519E6FC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C179319E6FA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 34694 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 13:35:11 -0000 Message-ID: <127749.33927.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8VmZvLoVM1l5A_cBPBCpCN0Bw8IAunAtmT16KoiGO0cLd2ALNl_U8U66V9ERY5HX.uCgGd.Y6D.dNrLP3eycfMgdEZYj60RqVDUfVs86Kw2.3HlUjxIWFmMMsaQf5v3acy3LDqaRctg0N3QEXoYT1fRmpzPcHIEMRISKnr7gEC.CQdzxBhFkeI1TtLNw7pem0LzVt9PTU0ypyjHBHlsVgTVe_vQoJr82G7pu_Y.PbQyOC5uWzzW9y1n92sZRi38Q4y9NHIYytHViAuQ7.UvxDTsLofIsiXA.2DBh6oib8_PfyNJ9gkqU5aaUqeRnBujKsqg7f9V5UokaCLNjjoC4MMQer4N6oHUPAq3G6q9MIJtI7TnfnTfnt9_1yTxdeofnlQ-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:35:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC60003.4090309@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:35:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac60195125781357919056 I watched a little of the behind the scenes last night. The scenery is brea= thtaking. = > = > AS wrote: > > I believe someone posted something about a National > Parks TV series?! > > = > > There is a free download on iTunes - behind the scenes > look: > > = > > http://tinyurl.com/yc9qf6r > > = > > FYI. = > > = > > = > >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:48:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10332 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:48:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDAAE1829E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15E5E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C2819E74B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC29419E74A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 09:48:41 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:48:41 -0400 Message-Id: <4AC5CC68.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:48:24 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "'olympus@thomasclausen.net'" References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F93@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F93@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] macro test data, Cobras, et al. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:48:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac604c0268481413256596 Ed The car is a 2009 GT500. Vapor silver with black stripes. I haven't noticed any handling issues. But usually when I find a place to put the pedal down, it is a straight road. Not many track events around here. But once a year the is a mustang drive-in at Myrtle Beach. I think they use an old air port runway to let folks open their cars up. Thanks Clay >>> "Sawyer, Edward" 10/2/2009 9:08 AM >>> Sadly, Modern Photo and Pop Photo seem to have never tested the 80/4, 135/4.5, 20/3.5, 38, 20/2, etc. They did test the 90/2, 50/3.5, 50/2. I don't know of any formalized lens test/MTF data that's been published on those. Clay, is the cobra an original or modern one? (E.g. FactoryFive, Superformance, etc.?) I've driven several modern ones, as an instructor for a few local track clubs. (BMWCCA, COMSCC, SCDA, SCCA, etc.) They are pretty fun and fast, though sometimes a bit challenging to drive. I drove a Superformance on track that had a 428CJ motor with a SC, somewhere north of 500hp. It was crazy fast but hard to drive - no power steering (!). Up at high speeds they tend to be a little squirrely due to the poor aerodynamics. You should considering taking it to a track event. Likely a local BMWCCA near you runs some. Much safer than speeding on public roads, and you'll learn more in one day on the track than in your whole life up to now, about driving fast, the limits of the car and yourself, etc. I've driven/instructed at Watkins Glen, NHIS/NHMS, Lime Rock, Mt. Tremblant, Putnam Park, Summit Pt., and others. Watkins Glen is probably my favorite. -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 15:57:30 2009 Received: (qmail 16621 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 13:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 13:57:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD22E18245 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B34E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A66334AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A1034AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so954633bwz.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:57:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.136 with SMTP id c8mr227971hba.148.1254491829511; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:57:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:57:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 96330082aacc4a3b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 15:57:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac606ca274601136683642 > > If I were doing this again, I'd just try to use Master2 > in place of Studio2, since I don't use many of the features of Studio2 > anyway. Master2 seems to connect better for firmware updates too. > > Studio2 has the "High Function" raw converter. (set under preferences). Does it make a difference? With E-1 files, a very significant different. How different? In image sharpness and edge details, about the difference between a 5MP E-1 file and an 8MP E-300/500 file. I too prefer the Olympus Colors, but have discovered through the years that it does amp up the blue skies in such a way that you don't have much room to play with until you get solarization. If you back off the intensity a bit things are OK, though. RawTherapee is coming along. Development has recently stagnated a bit, but the program has tremendous possibilities. A little too slow, but it operates very much like Lightroom where you can tweak one picture and then mass apply those settings to other pictures and the thumbnails all reflect the new changes. I've been experimenting with something pushed on luminous-landscape regarding ETR (Expose to the Right). The suggestion is to lower contrast in-camera to minimum and switch camera setting to aRGB. I guess that for a landscape photographer who will spend unending hours with each individual photograph this is fine. But for those of us who actually use our cameras in anger to make money with, I'd rather have somebody mix kitty litter in my Grape Nuts. As a general rule, I attempt to get my in-camera settings to be as close as is possible to final result and then it doesn't matter too much if I shoot RAW or JPEG. But I usually use RAW and then batch process in computer using Olympus software. If there is any shot needing a bit of help, then I tweak that one. If I have shot 1800 pictures at a wedding or event, why in the world would I want to hand adjust every single one of those (that made it past initial culling)? Speaking of manufacturer software... One of the most buggy and irritating software packages was the one included with my Minolta A1. It was slow and would crash the computer if you opened and closed it two times. But I am simply amazed at the beautiful colors it would give me. Ultimately, I ended up using Raw Shooter Essentials for most A1 conversions because of sharpness issues and highlight recovery (of which the A1's CCD has GOBS of highlight detail), and chroma noise reduction, but now I'm using Raw Therapee as it is "current" and has additional cropping and rotation tools. The most important thing I ever did with both of my digital cameras was use the supplied software to learn and tweak the in-camera settings. Both the Minolta and Olympus software used the exact same algorithms and mappings so whatever you did in the software could be used as your settings in camera. For example, though hours of tweaking I learned that my prefered E-1 WB setting for daylight was to have a -1 offset. I also learned that CS2 (saturation setting) and +1 contrast combined with the WB tweak gave me the look I wanted. A further bit of testing showed that an in-camera sharpness setting of "0" kept noise to a minimum and provided maximum post-processing advantage. With these tweaks, I am able to shoot in-camera JPEG and get the image to nearly perfectly match Fuji 160S. Instead of screwing around with in-camera settings on a new camera seeking that "perfect setting", just shoot some RAW shots and learn the settings in the supplied software. Once you get the camera customized, then go ahead and never use the software again--until the next firmware update. Never learning and perfecting the in-camera settings is, frankly, as stupid as can be because you are then a slave to some third-party software package that really is clueless of what the camera is capable of. Shooting RAW without ever perfecting the settings is akin to buying a brand new 550 HP Corvette and only using the "Teen Key". AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 16:04:19 2009 Received: (qmail 13636 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 14:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 14:04:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2BFE18256 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4BDE240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DB619E7BA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DAE19E7B5 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1885530fgg.8 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.167 with SMTP id m39mr228724hbg.169.1254492251759; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:04:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910020626g2a88fc91r1121bfbb921448e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0910020626g2a88fc91r1121bfbb921448e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:04:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 78e9810fcd80b773 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 16:04:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac60863140835683411216 Joel W. wrote: > You certainly do count, John. I'm glad to know you will have one for > yourself. At least one, that is. I can't think of anyone who should > have one if you don't. > Don't you think that the OM-3Ti made me the "best dressed" photographer at the Iowa Zuikofest? It was pretty nice jewelry, eh? OK, OK.... The crowd of E-3's and 150 F2 lenses kinda stared down my E-1 a bit. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 16:16:15 2009 Received: (qmail 16369 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0501FE181CF for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57583E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AAC19E80B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6255A19E805 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so413804fga.8 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:16:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.153 with SMTP id 25mr203090hbj.13.1254492968120; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:16:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F93@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F93@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:16:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a04a0148add3abd6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] macro test data, Cobras, et al. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 16:16:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac60b2f221071073733319 > > I've driven/instructed at Watkins Glen, NHIS/NHMS, Lime Rock, Mt. > Tremblant, Putnam Park, Summit Pt., and others. Watkins Glen is probably my > favorite. > Many years ago I attended a high-speed driving course at Watkins Glen. I haven't been on the other tracks, but the Glen is definitely a special track. I think that Mid-Ohio is a more fun track--especially where the road drops off the hill in that turn. I absolutely agree about taking a driving course. Even one of those introductory half-day events is highly recommended. My instructor was doing and teaching drifting techniques years (decades?) before it became a sport. We had a wetted down segment of racetrack and approached the turn at 100mph when he locked up the rear wheels. You had to make it through a 90 degree turn with the rear wheels skidding. I'm not sure how practical that was in racing terms, but that training got me through many years of winter driving. My one and only time of driving a Porsche. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 17:13:56 2009 Received: (qmail 1451 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 15:13:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 15:13:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE14EE18255 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50E1E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FF719E901 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0493619E900 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n92FDjTi007965 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:13:45 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c2a.4e8b3be2 (30738) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:13:42 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 17:13:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac618b4167121006886880 In a message dated 10/1/2009 6:22:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, omls@zuik.net writes: OK, now get to work Bill and show us some creative inspiration. Enough of this gaga stuff. We are stuck on this physical plane and spiritual ecstasy only goes so far. OK, I can do that. For those who have been around this list for awhile, you know that although I have more than my fair share of gear, I have always insisted that the bottom line for me is the image, irrespective of how it was captured and/or produced. And yes, I capture and produce in some so not normal ways and also in some very traditional ways. I'll get some images produced soon. Was thinking about it last night and though it might be appropriate to run a roll or two of my stash of Velvia 50 thru the OM 3Ti, however the film is not with me right now. I'll get that sorted out. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 17:16:29 2009 Received: (qmail 1883 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 15:16:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 15:16:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90ADE18255 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DDBE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4FC34AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B50A34AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n92FGFTn024836 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c86.5c18c0b8 (30738) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:16:14 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 17:16:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6194d286971342116753 In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:58:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, olymoose@gmail.com writes: Ken Norton wrote: > ... > > I'm looking forward to your confirming everything I've been saying about this camera. Or at least a few things. > Yes, let us know when it starts talking to you while you use it. Moose Damn, I always thought those were just auditory hallucinations. Guess I'm not crazy after all. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 17:32:40 2009 Received: (qmail 31908 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 15:32:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 15:32:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEDEE182B1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ACCE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB69A34AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC1A34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091002153233542.DTUQ22985@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:32:33 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:32:33 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 17:32:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac61d18288092013633067 Yeah, well, you guys talk to your mechanical camera all you want. My D3 pinches my cheek from time to time when it thinks I've done a particularly good job capturing something, and once in a great while sends a text to my cell allowing as how it can communicate with all the other D3s in the world and based on what it's learning, it's sure that mine are the finest, most sensitive hands ever to hold a D3. Then it starts vibrating like my old E-510 when I turned IS off, except the D3 doesn't have IS. It must just like me. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:16 AM, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:58:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > olymoose@gmail.com writes: > > Ken Norton wrote: >> ... >> >> I'm looking forward to your confirming everything I've been saying >> about > this camera. Or at least a few things. >> > > Yes, let us know when it starts talking to you while you use it. > > Moose > > > Damn, I always thought those were just auditory hallucinations. > Guess I'm > not crazy after all. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 17:51:36 2009 Received: (qmail 11948 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 15:51:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 15:51:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD31AE182AC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287D6E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D63619EE73 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068819EE70 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1062187bwz.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr268325hba.62.1254498687347; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:51:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0510466b3a5001b6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 17:51:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac62187209001136683642 > > Yeah, well, you guys talk to your mechanical camera all you want. My > D3 pinches my cheek from time to time when it thinks I've done a > particularly good job capturing something, and once in a great while > sends a text to my cell allowing as how it can communicate with all > the other D3s in the world and based on what it's learning, it's sure > that mine are the finest, most sensitive hands ever to hold a D3. Then > it starts vibrating like my old E-510 when I turned IS off, except the > D3 doesn't have IS. It must just like me. > Yes, but then it makes you pick up your own socks and put them in the hamper. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 17:52:50 2009 Received: (qmail 16689 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 15:52:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 15:52:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947D1E1829F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE11EE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A044B19EE86 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0D419EE70 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:52:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1062975bwz.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.167 with SMTP id m39mr242632hbg.169.1254498742561; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:52:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a69259d920071232 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 17:52:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac621d2186332013633067 > > Damn, I always thought those were just auditory hallucinations. Guess I'm > not crazy after all. Bill Barber > Nah. You're still crazy, but the voices are real. AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:01:16 2009 Received: (qmail 17148 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:01:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:01:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0843AE182A0 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6465AE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454BF34AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126234AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14307 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 16:01:07 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:01:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac623cc42955034211378 Thanks for that. I've never used an RB67 but watched a guy work with one some years ago. I think it's the only medium format camera I've ever coveted (aside from a 6x17 something). I noticed they seem to be a bargain right now and was wondering what lens to start with. The 65mm is about 35mm equivalent focal length on a 35 mm camera. Sounds good to me. Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > Mamiya RB lenses (Sekor-C series and later) are consistently the best > lenses I have ever > used on an SLR camera. e.g. the 65mm (wide angle) is what I would > consider to be a perfect lens, > never seen a 35mm lens perform like this. Wide open, bright lights in > the very corners at night, > not a shred of CA or coma, super-hight resolution. > > Yessirreee, I does enjoys my RBs.... > > On 02 Oct 2009, at 2:00 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > >> Yes, they're a real bargain now, also lenses for them are very >> reasonable >> too. You can put together a very good kit for the price of a >> Hasselblad >> body. >> >> ...Wayne > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:02:52 2009 Received: (qmail 32518 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:02:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D734E182AA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CB2E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA0534AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:02:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D0734AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 129 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:15:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:02:41 +0200 References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:02:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6242c139481234514069 Ed, the 80/4.0 Macro will likely beat the pants off an Apo Rodagon at 1:1, since that (and similar enlarging lenses) are not optimized for 1:1 work? However, at 10:1 the enlarger lens will surely whip the Zuiko 80mm. (but I don't think the Zuiko 20mm f/2.0, since both lenses are apparently kind-of diffraction-limited at open aperture, so the f/2.0 lens will always win). Of course, the image field being photographed will be much much smaller with the 20mm, so comparison would be difficult. Also, the Zuiko macro lenses can get away with pretty small image circles, whereas a Rodenstock enlarging lens has to be capable of huge image circles (for huge prints). It's not easy to make a lens of the same quality with such huge image circles, I imagine. There is also at least one account of the zuiko being better than the Apo Rodagon 1:1 75mm f/4 lens here: http://photo.net/olympus-camera-forum/00H25k (although it's not a very scientific test, admittedly). On the matter of cost / construction: I am a regular user of a Rodenstock Rodagon 80mm f/4.0 enlarging lens, I can also assert that the Zuiko 80mm f/4.0 (manual version) appears to be built to a much higher mechanical standard than the german enlarging lens. And both lenses are 6-element designs. I don't think we should assume that the more expensive german optics should be better. This goes to many aspects of the OM system. For example, tests claim the Zuiko 50/1.8 to out-resolve any Leica 50mm Summicron, and it was less than a tenth of the price new. For example, an Olympus double cable release is built like an expensive, priceless jewel compared to the (much more expensive) Linhof cable release that I use for my Technorama. In fact, cool as the technorama is, an OM-1 is just plainly built better in terms of finish. Now, I get the point of your post, and we should not get all lyrical just because of Zuikoholism, but this is why I would like to get some hard numbers on the resolution of the 80/4.0 Macro at 1:1. I am going to perform my own experimentation in anyway, but I wanted to draw on pervious experience to aid my expectations in terms of the print sizes I could achieve with ultra-fine-grain B&W film for a pet project of mine. Common wisdom seems to have it that there really are not many 1:1 lenses that approach the 80/4.0, and all that I really want to know is whether the 80/4.0, like the 20/3.5, is diffraction-limited (or near that) at wide-open aperture. keep well, Dawid On 02 Oct 2009, at 3:26 PM, Sawyer, Edward wrote: > I would think the Apo Rodagon 75/4 enlarger lens would be better. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:06:30 2009 Received: (qmail 31515 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046E9E181B9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A726E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA66734AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2736034AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8060480.4211254500358336.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 1000 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:19:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:06:20 +0200 References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:06:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac62506264871946193717 P.S. I do agree that the Coastal optics 60mm Macro, on paper at least, is unmatched (wow, what a lens...). My previous post did not in any way contest that. On 02 Oct 2009, at 3:26 PM, Sawyer, Edward wrote: > Well, don't read too much into it. Is it without peer? Not likely. I > am sure the Coastal Optics 60 macro beats it, as does many others > most likely. It was a good lens, but not a world-beater. It was > priced reasonably when new, so clearly had to have some compromises > built into the design. I would think the Apo Rodagon 75/4 enlarger > lens would be better. Klaus (a guy in Germany, active on many manual > focus forums) has about the best macro collection in the world, and > could likely give more info on how it stacks up. (He may even be on > this list? I am not sure). > > All the Oly macros are good, no doubt. There's some overlap of > functionality between them. But really, let's not go overboard on > presuming it to be the world's best lens in that focal length. If > you can get one cheap, it's worth having. Generally they don't > command crazy money, $200-ish or so for the ones I've seen change > hands lately. > > -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:06:38 2009 Received: (qmail 2911 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:06:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:06:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765EDE181BA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F9CE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF3034AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101A34AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19391 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 16:06:33 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 16:06:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC62508.7060905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:06:32 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <6.2.5.6.1.20091002081235.01df28d0@erols.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:06:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6250e61481136683642 A TTL FP autoflash might have enough power to light one drive wheel. :-) Dr. Flash iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Stereo Trains with TTL FP auto flash? > > iwert > > 2009/10/2 Stephen Troy : >> At 05:47 PM 10/1/2009, AG Schnozz wrote: >> >>> But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where >>> having said cameras came in handy. Right? >> >> Well, you certainly don't need a 3Ti or two to take photos of >> trains. It does make it more fun, though. >> >> Steve Troy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:12:09 2009 Received: (qmail 1473 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:12:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBC4E181CF for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44986E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A5619EF0D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CD819EEF5 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:12:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1270681fxm.37 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.29 with SMTP id q29mr269379hba.127.1254499919964; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:11:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:11:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9b8952c0651030f4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:12:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6265947589730998309 > > Now, I get the point of your post, and we should not get all lyrical > just because of Zuikoholism,... If we can't wax lyrical here on the OM list, where can we do it? This is why we exist, so we can keep the fires of Zuikoholism burning. I think it's my mission in life to raise Zuikoholism to the level of Leicaistaism. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:13:35 2009 Received: (qmail 2856 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:13:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:13:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1821BE182A3 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679A3E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEE619EF15 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F73019EF10 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n92GDBRu025177 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:13:12 GMT Message-ID: <1494BBC6C89947ABB7FC8340523CB4BC@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN><4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com><63191D6A4BEA4AB1A97648B75E4B7FBB@jimnichols> <4AC5DD12.506040! 2@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:13:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:13:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac626af294273900897491 Thanks for the input, Chuck. Since I normally limit my editing to RAW files, I have not found a need to go that route, but might try it with my Fuji F10 files, which are limited to JPEG. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > Assuming that ACR is the same in Elements as in PS one can (in PS) set > preferences -> file handling -> prefer ACR for JPEG > such that opening a JPEG in PhotoShop will first open it in ACR and also > do an 8 to 16 bit conversion to minimize posterization during ACR > editing. When the image opens in PS it will still be in 16 bit form and > needs to be converted back down to 8 bits if you're going to save as > JPEG again. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Jim, >> >> I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop >> Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as >> JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on >> my >> computer. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Couch" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM >> Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? >> >> >>> The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question >>> - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you >>> like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to >>> Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is >>> using. >>> >>> Jim Couch >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 18:24:52 2009 Received: (qmail 19370 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 16:24:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 16:24:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474EBE1824E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA60EE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A7119EF69 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDA819EF70 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so957800ywh.26 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.196.13 with SMTP id y13mr3029513anp.148.1254500685554; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC62508.7060905@chucknorcutt.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <6.2.5.6.1.20091002081235.01df28d0@erols.com> <4AC62508.7060905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 18:24:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac62954152981357919056 but in stereo :) (I was thinking about model trains...) iwert. 2009/10/2 Chuck Norcutt <: > A TTL FP autoflash might have enough power to light one drive wheel. =A0:= -) > > Dr. Flash > > > iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> Stereo Trains with TTL FP auto flash? >> >> iwert >> >> 2009/10/2 Stephen Troy <: >>> At 05:47 PM 10/1/2009, AG Schnozz wrote: >>> >>>> But you guys used to (still do?) do a lot of railroad photography where >>>> having said cameras came in handy. =A0Right? >>> >>> Well, you certainly don't need a 3Ti or two to take photos of >>> trains. =A0 It does make it more fun, though. >>> >>> Steve Troy -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 19:04:38 2009 Received: (qmail 17875 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 17:04:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 17:04:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E80E182AF for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF30E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C9F34AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:04:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EA534AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:04:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9588 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 17:04:27 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 19:04:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac632a6212271612113968 But I should think the comparative image circle for the enlarging lens is the the diagonal of the film... not the print. The only difference between the enlarger lens and the camera lens is the direction of travel of the light. Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > Ed, the 80/4.0 Macro will likely beat the pants off an Apo Rodagon at > 1:1, since that (and similar enlarging lenses) > are not optimized for 1:1 work? However, at 10:1 the enlarger lens > will surely whip the Zuiko 80mm. (but I don't > think the Zuiko 20mm f/2.0, since both lenses are apparently kind-of > diffraction-limited at open aperture, so > the f/2.0 lens will always win). Of course, the image field being > photographed will be much much smaller with > the 20mm, so comparison would be difficult. Also, the Zuiko macro > lenses can get away with pretty small image circles, > whereas a Rodenstock enlarging lens has to be capable of huge image > circles (for huge prints). It's not easy to > make a lens of the same quality with such huge image circles, I imagine. > > There is also at least one account of the zuiko being better than the > Apo Rodagon 1:1 75mm f/4 lens > here: http://photo.net/olympus-camera-forum/00H25k (although it's not > a very scientific test, admittedly). > > On the matter of cost / construction: I am a regular user of a > Rodenstock Rodagon 80mm f/4.0 enlarging lens, I can also > assert that the Zuiko 80mm f/4.0 (manual version) appears to be built > to a much higher mechanical standard than the > german enlarging lens. And both lenses are 6-element designs. I don't > think we should assume that the more expensive > german optics should be better. This goes to many aspects of the OM > system. For example, tests claim the Zuiko 50/1.8 > to out-resolve any Leica 50mm Summicron, and it was less than a tenth > of the price new. > > For example, an Olympus double cable release is built like an > expensive, priceless jewel compared to the (much more > expensive) Linhof cable release that I use for my Technorama. In fact, > cool as the technorama is, an OM-1 is > just plainly built better in terms of finish. > > Now, I get the point of your post, and we should not get all lyrical > just because of Zuikoholism, but this is > why I would like to get some hard numbers on the resolution of the > 80/4.0 Macro at 1:1. I am going to > perform my own experimentation in anyway, but I wanted to draw on > pervious experience to aid my expectations > in terms of the print sizes I could achieve with ultra-fine-grain B&W > film for a pet project of mine. > > Common wisdom seems to have it that there really are not many 1:1 > lenses that approach the 80/4.0, and > all that I really want to know is whether the 80/4.0, like the 20/3.5, > is diffraction-limited (or near that) > at wide-open aperture. > > keep well, > Dawid > > > On 02 Oct 2009, at 3:26 PM, Sawyer, Edward wrote: > >> I would think the Apo Rodagon 75/4 enlarger lens would be better. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 19:10:01 2009 Received: (qmail 12247 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 17:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 17:10:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2FBE181B1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC5E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2283C19F02C for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938619F03B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14686 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 17:09:53 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 19:10:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac633e9141171258626592 I also normally only shoot raw but I have some older files that are only JPEG and a few times when I've been playing with the camera and forgot to switch it back to raw. Anyhow, ACR makes editing JPEGs very easy and always does the 8 to 16 bit conversion automatically which helps a lot in avoiding posterization. Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > Thanks for the input, Chuck. Since I normally limit my editing to RAW > files, I have not found a need to go that route, but might try it with my > Fuji F10 files, which are limited to JPEG. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:59 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > > >> Assuming that ACR is the same in Elements as in PS one can (in PS) set >> preferences -> file handling -> prefer ACR for JPEG >> such that opening a JPEG in PhotoShop will first open it in ACR and also >> do an 8 to 16 bit conversion to minimize posterization during ACR >> editing. When the image opens in PS it will still be in 16 bit form and >> needs to be converted back down to 8 bits if you're going to save as >> JPEG again. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Jim Nichols wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop >>> Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as >>> JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on >>> my >>> computer. >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jim Couch" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM >>> Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? >>> >>> >>>> The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question >>>> - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you >>>> like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to >>>> Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is >>>> using. >>>> >>>> Jim Couch >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 19:34:03 2009 Received: (qmail 23632 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 17:34:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 17:34:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5D9E181B1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE30E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9210219F0C1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC1C19F07D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:33:55 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n92HXq2A006402 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:33:54 GMT Message-ID: <1C55923B928C4E9B8956A876D33915F9@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <0C8BA8EAA23B431AA7889C8A2601C58C@MAIN> <6f8422750909281227t1eca6902t368abf9ee1e7a753@mail.gmail.com> <04B85A64A8A14D9A9221B0270DDF06E3@MAIN> <9e908c1f0909290451ne09b9d5he111ae22ef9178f5@mail.gmail.com> <0BF87A4C731043148E6310D356253F3A@MAIN> <4AC21D74.3030605@sfr.fr> <9e908c1f0909291943o3c9ce81aif6f4005ade9193e4@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36A8E.3050209@millennics.com><4AC36C2A.2060503@sfr.fr><4AC36F6C.5080701@millennics.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com><8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN><4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com><63191D6A4BEA4AB1A97648B75E4B7FBB@jimnichols> <4AC5DD12.506040! 2@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:34:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 19:34:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6398b187429730998309 Chuck, I just examined the Preferences options in PSE 6.0 and cannot find an option for opening JPEG files in ACR. This won't affect the way I work, but thought I would pass it along. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > Assuming that ACR is the same in Elements as in PS one can (in PS) set > preferences -> file handling -> prefer ACR for JPEG > such that opening a JPEG in PhotoShop will first open it in ACR and also > do an 8 to 16 bit conversion to minimize posterization during ACR > editing. When the image opens in PS it will still be in 16 bit form and > needs to be converted back down to 8 bits if you're going to save as > JPEG again. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Jim, >> >> I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop >> Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as >> JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on >> my >> computer. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Couch" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM >> Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? >> >> >>> The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question >>> - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you >>> like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to >>> Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is >>> using. >>> >>> Jim Couch >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 19:57:47 2009 Received: (qmail 29796 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 17:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 17:57:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C110CE182A1 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3D8E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8831CD486 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F315F1CD48A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:57:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25375 invoked by uid 504); 2 Oct 2009 17:57:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091001-0, 10/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 19:57:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac63f1b14142517112723 Ah, that's too bad. I know that the ACR developers were of a divided mind on whether to allow JPEG files. My ACR will also operate on 16-bit TIFF files but not unless passed into PhotoShop by Adobe Bridge. If I pass a TIFF from another browser it goes straight into PhotoShop and doesn't get intercepted by ACR. Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > Chuck, > > I just examined the Preferences options in PSE 6.0 and cannot find an option > for opening JPEG files in ACR. This won't affect the way I work, but > thought I would pass it along. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:59 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? > > >> Assuming that ACR is the same in Elements as in PS one can (in PS) set >> preferences -> file handling -> prefer ACR for JPEG >> such that opening a JPEG in PhotoShop will first open it in ACR and also >> do an 8 to 16 bit conversion to minimize posterization during ACR >> editing. When the image opens in PS it will still be in 16 bit form and >> needs to be converted back down to 8 bits if you're going to save as >> JPEG again. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Jim Nichols wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> I may have stated this previously, but will repeat it. I use Photoshop >>> Elements 6.0 to process both Olympus RAW files, (.ORG files), as well as >>> JPEG files. It works fine for me. I never loaded the Olympus software on >>> my >>> computer. >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jim Couch" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM >>> Subject: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? >>> >>> >>>> The discussion on white balance and Olympus Master brings up a question >>>> - what is everyone using to convert Olympus raw files? What do you >>>> like/dislike about the software you are using? As someone who is new to >>>> Olympus DSLRs I would love to know what work flow/software everyone is >>>> using. >>>> >>>> Jim Couch >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 19:58:59 2009 Received: (qmail 496 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 17:58:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 17:58:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB7FE1829E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56660E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAA834AC029 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6F834AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:58:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.93]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW00EZFF9906YQ@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC63F43.1070507@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:58:27 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 19:58:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac63f6334991612113968 And the big update on diesels is that the emissions have been cut way back, especially the carcinogenics associated with old designs. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Willie Wonka wrote: > Actually, the diesel engine has changed a lot since the 80's. > > It starts just as well in cold temperatures as itsgasoline > counterparts, dozent stink anymore, it is more reliable and > economical... > > I think what AG is hinting is that the Jeeps offered her equipped > with diesel (Dizel) engines are coupled with crummy transmissions. > One thing that he furgot to mention tho, is the fact that the real > Jeeps really don't have this problem...:) > > The Liberty (aka Cherokee for the rest of the world), Patriot, > Compass arent really Jeeps. They fall into the category of the > Touareg, Land Rover etc. Cars that you haul your groceries with, > take your girls to a soccer practice with, but cant really take out > in the wilderness. > > Boris > > P.S. Yeah, I know...Real Jeeps are built not bought...:) > > > > Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 > > > > > from Charles Geilfuss [Permanent Link] > > > > > Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from > No10 > > From: Charles Geilfuss > > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:01:50 -0400 > > > > > AG, Not sure why you would want a Jeep diesel. As you point out they > are notoriously unreliable and don't get much better mileage than the > gas powered v6. Is that little bit of extra torque rally worth the > hassle? > > Charlie > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > >>> The UK and continent also get a lot of very potent diesels that >>> don't see the light of day over here..... >>> >> Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a >> Jeep with the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere >> else in the world, but the one and only time they brought it into >> the USA it resulted in 100% transmission failures. >> >> Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic >> transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual >> transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. >> >> IDIOTS! >> >> It's this type of lunacy that makes me have absolutely no sympathy >> for Chrysler or GM. >> >> Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they >> could achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. >> >> DON'T get me started. >> >> AG -- > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 21:37:06 2009 Received: (qmail 11880 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 19:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 19:37:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FD2E18277 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1793BE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B92334AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07F734AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so1531913yxe.22 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.5.21 with SMTP id h21mr5075605ybi.26.1254512219227; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:36:59 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910021236w7b64e3d0ob0bad93212023b1e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 21:37:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6566224265368819438 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I think it's my mission in life to raise Zuikoholism to the level of > Leicaistaism. Leicastration. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 2 23:52:11 2009 Received: (qmail 28241 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 21:52:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 21:52:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96A4E181CB for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211BAE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1BC34AC028 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B88634AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1926766gxk.8 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.16.2 with SMTP id 2mr5244136ybp.251.1254520320856; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:52:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:52:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 2 23:52:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6760b98151946193717 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Studio2 has the "High Function" raw converter. (set under preferences). > Does it make a difference? With E-1 files, a very significant different. > How different? In image sharpness and edge details, about the difference > between a 5MP E-1 file and an 8MP E-300/500 file. > I too prefer the Olympus Colors, but have discovered through the years th= at > it does amp up the blue skies in such a way that you don't have much room= to > play with until you get solarization. If you back off the intensity a bit > things are OK, though. I usually keep Sat at 0 and the picture at "Natural" rather than "Vivid" (talking E-3 and E-410). Is this what you mean by "back off the intensity"? I hope this "high function" thing has a memory problem associated with it because I can't find anything resembling it in Studio2. Are you possibly thinking of the display quality setting? > RawTherapee is coming along. Development has recently stagnated a bit, but > the program has tremendous possibilities. =A0A little too slow, but it > operates very much like Lightroom where you can tweak one picture and then > mass apply those settings to other pictures and the thumbnails all reflect > the new changes. Something I will never do, probably. It defeats the main purpose of RAW conversion for me. > I've been experimenting with something pushed on luminous-landscape > regarding ETR (Expose to the Right). =A0The suggestion is to lower contra= st > in-camera to minimum and switch camera setting to aRGB. I guess that for a > landscape photographer who will spend unending hours with each individual > photograph this is fine. =A0But for those of us who actually use our came= ras > in anger to make money with, I'd rather have somebody mix kitty litter in= my > Grape Nuts. Hey, I thought Grape Nuts WAS kitty litter. I would be partially guilty of being said landscape photographer, except that I don't spend unending hours with each individual photograph ("ending hours" only?). > As a general rule, I attempt to get my in-camera settings to be > as close as is possible to final result and then it doesn't matter too mu= ch > if I shoot RAW or JPEG. That makes sense in terms of what you do. >But I usually use RAW and then batch process in > computer using Olympus software. If there is any shot needing a bit of he= lp, > then I tweak that one. =A0If I have shot 1800 pictures at a wedding or ev= ent, > why in the world would I want to hand adjust every single one of those (t= hat > made it past initial culling)? This makes sense to me, though it is not what I do. Nothing for me is dependent upon processing a lot of images in a hurry. > The most important thing I ever did with both of my digital cameras was u= se > the supplied software to learn and tweak the in-camera settings. =A0Both = the > Minolta and Olympus software used the exact same algorithms and mappings = so > whatever you did in the software could be used as your settings in camera. > For example, though hours of tweaking I learned that my prefered E-1 WB > setting for daylight was to have a -1 offset. I also learned that CS2 > (saturation setting) and +1 contrast combined with the WB tweak gave me t= he > look I wanted. =A0A further bit of testing showed that an in-camera sharp= ness > setting of "0" kept noise to a minimum and provided maximum post-processi= ng > advantage. =A0With these tweaks, I am able to shoot in-camera JPEG and ge= t the > image to nearly perfectly match Fuji 160S. I think I picked up a lot of my tricks from you, which is why it has surprised me at times that you have been catting around with all these non-Olympus converters. > Instead of screwing around with in-camera settings on a new camera seeking > that "perfect setting", just shoot some RAW shots and learn the settings = in > the supplied software. =A0Once you get the camera customized, then go ahe= ad > and never use the software again--until the next firmware update. Most of what you say here suggests that you are pretty much a jpg shooter in principle who shoots RAW only for insurance purposes. I do think I understand you better, brother. If I were to do events, I would be inspired to do what you have done, too. I think you also identify the weakness of a lot of us 100% RAW shooters who don't bother with some important things in the way we shoot because it can always be "fixed" through RAW conversion. > Never learning and perfecting the in-camera settings is, frankly, as stup= id > as can be because you are then a slave to some third-party software packa= ge > that really is clueless of what the camera is capable of. =A0Shooting RAW > without ever perfecting the settings is akin to buying a brand new 550 HP > Corvette and only using the "Teen Key". OT -- there's such a thing as a "teen key"? Does it take a couple cylinders offline and cause the horn to toot when it is occupied and the wheels aren't moving? Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 00:53:50 2009 Received: (qmail 28655 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 22:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 22:53:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B894E181B2 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC52E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFE319F079 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EA619E96A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15599 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 22:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 22:53:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:53:37 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 00:53:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6847e77065368819438 Men, not women are the true romantics for only a man can fall in love with a car...or have a relationship with a camera. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 1:32 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Yeah, well, you guys talk to your mechanical camera all you want. My > D3 pinches my cheek from time to time when it thinks I've done a > particularly good job capturing something, and once in a great while > sends a text to my cell allowing as how it can communicate with all > the other D3s in the world and based on what it's learning, it's sure > that mine are the finest, most sensitive hands ever to hold a D3. Then > it starts vibrating like my old E-510 when I turned IS off, except the > D3 doesn't have IS. It must just like me. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 00:56:10 2009 Received: (qmail 31899 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 22:56:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 22:56:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D468E18053 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ABCE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6C634AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F093610001 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15697 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 22:55:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 22:55:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:56:00 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 00:56:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6850a7395683411216 I'll send you a box of paper stick on red spots. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 2:11 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I think it's my mission in life to raise Zuikoholism to the level of > Leicaistaism. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 01:27:53 2009 Received: (qmail 21086 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 23:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:27:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE8E181D8 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876ECE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DAC19F19B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD919F15D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1178327ewy.37 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.145.12 with SMTP id x12mr3866342ebn.44.1254526066513; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm185440eyh.24.2009.10.02.16.27.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> Thread-Index: AcpDWIKNrXuH6jk1TVi9iGXe7oGaQAAXy0Ig X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 01:27:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac68c79162072439112457 http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm Dave _ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 01:32:47 2009 Received: (qmail 19548 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 23:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:32:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAB1E181D6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648F6E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF211CD494 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:32:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05841CD492 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16659 invoked by uid 502); 2 Oct 2009 23:32:38 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-172.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.172) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 2 Oct 2009 23:32:38 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20091002191239.0037ccb0@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:32:33 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Ws In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 01:32:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac68d9f168776107113666 Andrew is wiser than he lets on. There is basis for that observation in the ancient tradition of the Kabbalah, where the female aspect corresponds to all the strengths, and male to all the loves. Just observe how men interact with young children and you can see the difference between Hesod and Gevurah, chaos versus structure. WayneS At 06:53 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: >Men, not women are the true romantics for only a man can fall in love >with a car...or have a relationship with a camera. >Andrew Fildes >afildes@people.net.au > > > >On 03/10/2009, at 1:32 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> Yeah, well, you guys talk to your mechanical camera all you want. My >> D3 pinches my cheek from time to time when it thinks I've done a >> particularly good job capturing something, and once in a great while >> sends a text to my cell allowing as how it can communicate with all >> the other D3s in the world and based on what it's learning, it's sure >> that mine are the finest, most sensitive hands ever to hold a D3. Then >> it starts vibrating like my old E-510 when I turned IS off, except the >> D3 doesn't have IS. It must just like me. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 01:48:54 2009 Received: (qmail 9007 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 23:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:48:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6802E181CC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2107E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB1134AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:48:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A716234AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20131 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 23:48:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:48:32 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> Message-Id: <9C0A6826-55A3-4C5F-AB2C-DE69D3551FE5@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:48:43 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 01:48:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6916685256107113666 Wonder how that works on the ground. I suspect that elements of 'public nuisance' and a 'Vagrancy Act' of some sort would be brought into play if you annoyed a copper. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 9:27 AM, David Bell wrote: > http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 01:50:04 2009 Received: (qmail 24567 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2009 23:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:50:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E5E1824D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AE3E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A81734AC02A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD8F34AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20146 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 23:49:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Oct 2009 23:49:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091002191239.0037ccb0@zuik.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20091002191239.0037ccb0@zuik.net> Message-Id: <23313EEE-DB7F-476E-BBCF-DA366EC69D8D@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:49:26 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . 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Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 9:32 AM, Ws wrote: > Andrew is wiser than he lets on. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 02:28:21 2009 Received: (qmail 3400 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D85E182A9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA6DE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901911CD494 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A471CD485 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5231 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 00:28:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 00:28:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC69A9B.6020001@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:28:11 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091002-0, 10/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 02:28:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac69aa5194724877110844 You don't do batch conversion? I select those I think have similar exposure characteristics and convert in a batch. Usually about 6 to 12 shots at once. But I don't blindly accept the result. I look at each one beyond the thumbnails and usually end up applying a small tweak to some of them... but not all. But the tweak is usually a small change to exposure or fill light or highlight recovery and is quickly done. Other settings usually stay the same. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> RawTherapee is coming along. Development has recently stagnated a bit, but >> the program has tremendous possibilities. A little too slow, but it >> operates very much like Lightroom where you can tweak one picture and then >> mass apply those settings to other pictures and the thumbnails all reflect >> the new changes. > > Something I will never do, probably. It defeats the main purpose of > RAW conversion for me. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 02:44:49 2009 Received: (qmail 30915 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 00:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 00:44:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E1FE181DE for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C058E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE8534AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAB134AC02F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091003004443345.MGVA19321@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:44:43 +0000 Message-Id: <1CFD219E-A277-4325-9002-CB743409B2BE@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:44:42 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 02:44:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac69e8125096107113666 Oh, no. You're way behind the times. The D3 washes, dries and folds. The only problem I have is when it decides my socks have seen enough action and arbitrarily throws pairs away without consulting me. Even Esteemed Wife doesn't do that. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Yeah, well, you guys talk to your mechanical camera all you want. My >> D3 pinches my cheek from time to time when it thinks I've done a >> particularly good job capturing something, and once in a great while >> sends a text to my cell allowing as how it can communicate with all >> the other D3s in the world and based on what it's learning, it's sure >> that mine are the finest, most sensitive hands ever to hold a D3. >> Then >> it starts vibrating like my old E-510 when I turned IS off, except >> the >> D3 doesn't have IS. It must just like me. >> > > > Yes, but then it makes you pick up your own socks and put them in the > hamper. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 02:53:56 2009 Received: (qmail 7012 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 00:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 00:53:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C03E18255 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7414E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A738134AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86C34AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25682 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2009 00:53:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 00:53:34 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1CFD219E-A277-4325-9002-CB743409B2BE@roadrunner.com> References: <1CFD219E-A277-4325-9002-CB743409B2BE@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:53:44 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 02:53:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6a0a4273296789618724 I presume that the D3x cooks as well? Didn't see that option in the menus. Wonder if it does Indian... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 10:44 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Oh, no. You're way behind the times. The D3 washes, dries and folds. > The only problem I have is when it decides my socks have seen enough > action and arbitrarily throws pairs away without consulting me. Even > Esteemed Wife doesn't do that. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 03:01:57 2009 Received: (qmail 2331 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 01:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 01:01:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14344E1829D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6CBE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1B034AC024 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB534AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.153]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 48439 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2009 01:01:49 -0000 Message-ID: <788445.48337.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 43gomYYVM1knITY61Z3QDgPTENjDUu4xvqMQg_QcG6pn84o6ZdPHx7l8pfg_SrHGPO8965Y5qD6ouOWr9NpjvxLU3dFsbSbkOjxsIkWO4U23OVoLQpmyFPVcKRL3BLzeldyN1_8sKzGgmixahLPxav5pyycJtR0leIct39jrGwm4EHnT9nx2ptKhiQ5OUuvnlrl9llUjjOTsH1EtmZ5t5UNeBHXeDRVfed2L104FF5yy1lLMSjeDsERRInvSWFlf7Cs1xV4K3885DGl57XIbbaMZHiI8S4TFDzQ3pBme7xiRChcZeyGTYaPbIb7wu2Yk9G8ZB7C5oLfyl0thYFLbz3vMRb03sKTImmyYU9EtiDshT.PxFZsxlPTydsk2nEA4wrozv2VzWuGtIefeH9tKOZEoZ.UR29k0QVjkfY1KhOlDZZ3Mh6v8gftjHc5F0STQvpovb9xwHbi7Tz5emPqbLZV007FOmHlcicvZ1Q7SfxgRUZvLAsKx9TQfNE6WTWsNotywbYQT0.Hz Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:01:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Subject: Re: Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 03:01:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6a28589764877110844 http://www.millennics.com/olympus/tope/tope_show_entry.php?event=3D32&pic= =3D22 =A0 You are talking about the OM of the automotive industry, right...:) =A0 It has been a fantastic vehicle (despite what Chris says...:)=A0 I admit.= =A0 You are right, they never brake, despite the amounts of abuse...and its= turning radios is smaller than that of most compacts.=A0 I just started do= ing preventative maintenance at 160K =A0 One day, when the technology becomes available, I am going to throw the gas= oline engine and=A0install an electic motor. =A0 Boris =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Subject: = Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 From: = Ken Norton Date: = Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:40:11 -0500 =A0 Granted, they aren't CJ Wranglers with Rubucon upgrades, but the Liberty actually has redeemed itself quite well as a decent Jeep.=A0 My wife and I have a pair of full-blown Grand Cherokees and the reality is, the Grand Cherokee will go places that will make your toes curl. But the old style Cherokee that was around from 1983 to 2001 (ish) was definitely the best of the bunch for balancing off-road prowess with relative road comfort. You just can't kill those things very easily. The Patriot and Compass literally are cars with all-wheel drive (not even 4WD) under them.=A0 Garbage. I do take my GC out in the wilderness. AG = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 03:04:19 2009 Received: (qmail 24876 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 01:04:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 01:04:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9B4E181D6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C5EE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0307134AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:04:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5928734AC026 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1631136fxm.37 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr323268hba.62.1254531850056; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:04:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba8e17b58205f24e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 03:04:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6a313198441136683642 > > I hope this "high function" thing has a memory problem associated with > it because I can't find anything resembling it in Studio2. Are you > possibly thinking of the display quality setting? > > Sorry. Me wrong. High Function was a feature in Studio1. Studio2's High Function is a memory/cpu thing. Duh, no wonder my computer got so slow... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 03:08:51 2009 Received: (qmail 15906 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 01:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 01:08:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A55EE181BA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F6FE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388FD1CD488 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0F01CD486 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so1337334ywh.26 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:08:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.16.3 with SMTP id t3mr5520992ybi.117.1254532126195; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:08:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC69A9B.6020001@chucknorcutt.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> <4AC69A9B.6020001@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910021808i6b6c37f6j6155765f3f7d2ecf@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 03:08:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6a42225491560218263 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > You don't do batch conversion? Nope. Once in a while, if I need to shoot a lot of images to get a percentage of successful shots, I just meter carefully, test a bit, and shoot jpg. Mostly at sporting events. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 03:41:39 2009 Received: (qmail 23957 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 01:41:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 01:41:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DBEE182A5 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A51E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F045A34AC027 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FCF34AC02F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1642799fxm.37 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:41:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.154 with SMTP id t26mr288859hbt.74.1254534089856; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:41:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1AFABBF9-5226-4A71-871F-EC9923B7C0E1@mac.com> <05A748B8-A2C0-4774-90D2-D6820FA22499@millennics.com> <8F691246B76C4609B70C5B9207AD5B9F@MAIN> <4AC53DB7.7090301@chucknorcutt.com> <27D60987A5154D76BB1D55DCC87FC2AE@MAIN> <4AC56907.7090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC57EAC.1070700@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910020518v3faffdd3qe0363cca75850b0e@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0910021452ud31e11aha998e64ff1704c3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:41:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8a2e5b853c6bf94 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Raw conversion for Olympus files? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 03:41:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6abd3178161744846740 > > I usually keep Sat at 0 and the picture at "Natural" rather than > "Vivid" (talking E-3 and E-410). Is this what you mean by "back off > the intensity"? > Yup. I think I picked up a lot of my tricks from you, which is why it has > surprised me at times that you have been catting around with all these > non-Olympus converters. > I'm constantly experimenting and learning. Some people get the impression that I'm just a stick-n-the-mud or techno-recalcitrant, but the bulk of that is budget induced tightwaddedness, not some attempt at moral high-ground. Once in a while I end up actually learning something new. The engineer in me is looking for ways to constantly improve what is there instead of just buying new stuff. So that's why I'm catting around with other converters. Most of what you say here suggests that you are pretty much a jpg > shooter in principle who shoots RAW only for insurance purposes. I do > think I understand you better, brother. If I were to do events, I > would be inspired to do what you have done, too. I think you also > identify the weakness of a lot of us 100% RAW shooters who don't > bother with some important things in the way we shoot because it can > always be "fixed" through RAW conversion. > I'm shooting RAW like it is JPEG. The idea is to get it as close as possible in-camera so I just do a mass batch convert using in-camera settings. I'm comfortable enough with my settings that I can shoot JPEG without fear if I have to and do when I'm doing high-volume shooting or something that gets handed off to somebody. Many of the events I shoot need JPEGs and I can shoot in-camera HQ images which average 1.4MB each and just churn and burn. But landscapy type stuff, yeah, I shoot RAW and tweak like everybody else. OT -- there's such a thing as a "teen key"? Does it take a couple > cylinders offline and cause the horn to toot when it is occupied and > the wheels aren't moving? > Also known as a valet key. It'ls designed to prevent a "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" scenario. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 04:00:21 2009 Received: (qmail 21442 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 02:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 02:00:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BF8E18244 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4CDE240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819E41CD497 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF8A1CD485 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:00:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1380224bwz.14 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr302334hbe.83.1254535213436; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <788445.48337.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <788445.48337.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:00:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9fd6b9afe29d22b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Subject: Re: Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 04:00:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6b035272321413256596 > > You are talking about the OM of the automotive industry, right...:) > Absolutely. Chrysler make a HUGE blunder ending that one. > It has been a fantastic vehicle (despite what Chris says...:) I admit. > You are right, they never brake, despite the amounts of abuse...and its > turning radios is smaller than that of most compacts. I just started doing > preventative maintenance at 160K > Mine developed brake problems too. ;) > One day, when the technology becomes available, I am going to throw the > gasoline engine and install an electic motor. > Believe it or not, this is not that far fetched. Your Cherokee is one of the lightest vehicles made. Pull the engine out (it's the heaviest part of the vehicle) and it's got a lot of potential for electrification. In fact, I think it's already been done. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 04:52:49 2009 Received: (qmail 2782 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 02:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 02:52:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B42E18212 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FF4E240D9 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DFB1CD489 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E729F1CD486 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26709 invoked by uid 502); 3 Oct 2009 02:52:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.95.101.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 02:52:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC6BC74.5060100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:52:36 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <387852.19956.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <387852.19956.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] National Parks X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 04:52:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6bc8171945368819438 Willie Wonka wrote: > Naaaaaaaaah, > > You gotta come to the Northeast, we all talk like that, some of us with an accent...:) > The annoying thing was that the pronunciation of "Mt. Desert" was completely mixed in the segment on Acadia NP. Early on, they explained why it's pronounced like dessert, the sweet after dinner, not desert, the arid countryside (something to do with French.) Then the main narrator, Peter Coyote, and some of the others proceeded to pronounce it in contradiction to the explanation. Locals here pronounce it like dessert and the Acadia NP brochure agrees. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 06:45:46 2009 Received: (qmail 17571 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 04:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 04:45:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CBBE182A6 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53438E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5C834AC063 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:45:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0D534AC062 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:45:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 18 days 23:51:45 ago / 195.8.64.6 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:54818 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MtwUu-00064x-GU (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:45:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:45:31 +0200 Message-Id: <632A7F64-D781-4FA8-8841-E28A147BEE5F@frozenlight.eu> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 06:45:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6d6fa282641006886880 The picture you post is lovely, but I think it would have been much better with a normal lens. I honestly do not see what the pinhole adds here. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 2, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Writing a magazine article on soft photography - using things like > pinholes, Lensbabies, SIMA's, Portragons, Loreo's and Holga lenses on > digital SLR's - digital Lomography if you like. Tripped over this - > http://cgi.ebay.com/Jelly-Lens-Effect-Phone-Camera-Lomo-Soft-Lens- > No-9-(Yel_W0QQitemZ250498643804 > Gave me a laugh - I though fones were pretty lomographic already! > > My best pinhole so far (er, nudity warning) - > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/117690547 > (5D2, Bowens Striplight, my mate Andy's f192 home made pinhole) > This is more fun than sharp. Shame the magazine won't use it. > ("We're a family magazine - the publisher's family and they don't > approve"). > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 08:58:26 2009 Received: (qmail 29522 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 06:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 06:58:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF11E1822C for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2683E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FCB1CD486 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCD31CD48A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21603 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2009 06:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 06:58:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <632A7F64-D781-4FA8-8841-E28A147BEE5F@frozenlight.eu> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <632A7F64-D781-4FA8-8841-E28A147BEE5F@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <29E4342E-D7E7-40B1-841C-CF53C3658679@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:58:09 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 08:58:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6f611148964877110844 Graininess, soft texture, depth of field and a sense of adventure - press the trigger and you've no idea what you're getting - no finder, no screen can give you a preview so you're shooting blind. Also the knowledge that you (or in my case, someone I know) made the lens in half an hour for less than two dollars and it WORKS! Strangely, it could be done with a normal lens but you never quite seem to get the same images if you try. You could plan it and it would be sharp and then you'd have to PS the softness in and somehow it wouldn't be the same. The Oly Art Filter called pinhole (is it still?) was just a smear and vignette filter - nothing like the real thing. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 2:45 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > The picture you post is lovely, but I think it would have been much > better with a normal lens. I honestly do not see what the pinhole adds > here. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 08:59:25 2009 Received: (qmail 17713 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 06:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 06:59:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C41E18200 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B88E240B4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3519C3610001 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA9834AC025 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so1866314yxe.22 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:58:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.18.15 with SMTP id 15mr3821053anr.48.1254553099485; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 08:59:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac6f64d156515683411216 I'm looking for a 200mm f5 (or f4, but would really like the smaller size). I don't think it was ever made in an MC variant? All offers welcome... Best regards, Iwert (now a soccer-dad :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 09:41:54 2009 Received: (qmail 23736 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 07:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 07:41:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAD3E181D6 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4980BE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324DD19DBD7 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:41:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486AA19DBB9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1738573fxm.37 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:41:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.15 with SMTP id t15mr1972052bkb.113.1254555696649; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:41:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8022765897b62550 Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 09:41:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac70042270971342116753 You did see this one on our well known bay? 250502830322 Regards, Frank. 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > I'm looking for a 200mm f5 (or f4, but would really like the smaller size). > I don't think it was ever made in an MC variant? > > All offers welcome... > > Best regards, > > Iwert (now a soccer-dad :) > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 10:00:13 2009 Received: (qmail 20050 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 08:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 08:00:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6485CE18277 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799AAE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A24634AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBF534AC02A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20132 invoked by uid 503); 3 Oct 2009 08:00:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 08:00:04 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:00:02 -0700 Message-ID: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpD9wtbjHw8WXq7Tp24d7oqgxHxfwAAHW/Q Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 10:00:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7048d158901950411718 The Zuiko 200mm f5 was made in a MC version. Just going by the serial nos. there were about 11,000 Ag Schnozzed; somewhere between 11,000 and 19,000 black nosed F. Zuiko 200mm f5 lenses. I think I've seen about 3 MC lenses show up on ebay but could only read one serial no. at about 130000. Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: iwert bernakiewicz [mailto:zuikooh@gmail.com] I'm looking for a 200mm f5 (or f4, but would really like the smaller size). I don't think it was ever made in an MC variant? All offers welcome... Best regards, Iwert (now a soccer-dad :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 10:04:57 2009 Received: (qmail 15883 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 08:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 08:04:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D33AE18246 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7EFE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B637B3610001 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784AF34AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so1505379ywh.26 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.18.15 with SMTP id 15mr3840130anr.48.1254557092974; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:04:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:04:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 10:04:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac705a9316401744846740 Yes, there a few on the bay... but I always like to ask here first :) Thanks for the heads up! Iwert 2009/10/3 Frank Wijsmuller : > You did see this one on our well known bay? 250502830322 > > Regards, Frank. > > > 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > >> I'm looking for a 200mm f5 (or f4, but would really like the smaller size). >> I don't think it was ever made in an MC variant? >> >> All offers welcome... >> >> Best regards, >> >> Iwert (now a soccer-dad :) >> -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 11:00:12 2009 Received: (qmail 32556 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 09:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 09:00:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A66E18255 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F3E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B973119DE18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4755919DE07 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD047C97B0 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:30:42 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <9C0A6826-55A3-4C5F-AB2C-DE69D3551FE5@people.net.au> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:00:01 +0100 Message-Id: References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <9C0A6826-55A3-4C5F-AB2C-DE69D3551FE5@people.net.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 11:00:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7129c276021950411718 I've heard of people who have been prevented from photography, notwithstanding the lack of powers so to do, and had their cameras confiscated. So, just like most things, the rules are applied at the convenience of the individual police officer. Arguing is quite difficult when the police have all sort of other powers to use agains the individual. Chris On 3 Oct 2009, at 00:48, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Wonder how that works on the ground. I suspect that elements of > 'public nuisance' and a 'Vagrancy Act' of some sort would be brought > into play if you annoyed a copper. > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 11:49:13 2009 Received: (qmail 15230 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 09:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 09:49:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC694E181B2 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2D2E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C953610001 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0831334AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1464839bwz.14 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.22 with SMTP id c22mr1386858muk.54.1254563345340; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:49:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: af316de414ce5a71 Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 11:49:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac71e1994593900897491 What is the point of that? Zuikolism rules here, isn't it? Mine's not for sale ;-) Regards, Frank 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > Yes, there a few on the bay... but I always like to ask here first :) > Thanks for the heads up! > > Iwert > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 12:08:36 2009 Received: (qmail 9477 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 10:08:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 10:08:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F0BE181D6 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48333E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2423319DFDE for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:08:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC0B19DFDD for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:08:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so1550148ywh.26 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:08:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.233.19 with SMTP id f19mr3867835anh.72.1254564509660; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:08:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:08:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 12:08:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac722a4132391946193717 I understand... it is just part of the programme: selling so you can justify buying! is the 200f5 mounted on a pen F now? :-) iwert 2009/10/3 Frank Wijsmuller : > What is the point of that? Zuikolism rules here, isn't it? Mine's not for > sale ;-) > > Regards, Frank > > > 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > >> Yes, there a few on the bay... but I always like to ask here first :) >> Thanks for the heads up! >> >> Iwert >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 13:02:20 2009 Received: (qmail 13168 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 11:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 11:02:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9B8E182A0 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFC2E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6583610001 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:02:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6164E34AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B34615BC for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:28:25 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:02:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> Message-Id: <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 13:02:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac72f3b76601076813867 Thanks, Dave. I'm glad that it has been documented by the police, but I should think that each case would be treated on the merits and grumpiness of the policeman at the scene. Chris On 3 Oct 2009, at 00:27, David Bell wrote: > http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm > > Dave -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 13:26:51 2009 Received: (qmail 12136 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 11:26:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 11:26:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEF5E18060 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943C8E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F0F34AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:26:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D759034AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:26:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29912 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 11:26:45 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 13:26:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac734fb139699752976205 Of course but you first have to select the Hindu language option. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > I presume that the D3x cooks as well? > Didn't see that option in the menus. > Wonder if it does Indian... > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 03/10/2009, at 10:44 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> Oh, no. You're way behind the times. The D3 washes, dries and folds. >> The only problem I have is when it decides my socks have seen enough >> action and arbitrarily throws pairs away without consulting me. Even >> Esteemed Wife doesn't do that. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 13:31:07 2009 Received: (qmail 19429 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 11:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 11:31:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6F3E182A2 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D088E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7FA19E1FA for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:31:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF5B19DDAC for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:31:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7898 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2009 11:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 11:30:46 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:30:54 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 13:31:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac735fb16833900897491 Anyone? :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 13:41:03 2009 Received: (qmail 20384 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 11:41:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 11:41:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7B0E181CD for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B7FE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8867719E27A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8EF19E250 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:40:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7019 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 11:40:53 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091002-0, 10/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 13:41:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7384f327422517112723 Strange that the images of the camera, case and box are posted in B&W. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > and-Box_W0QQitemZ170304176879> > Anyone? :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 14:19:25 2009 Received: (qmail 25085 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 12:19:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 12:19:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C929E18212 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840AFE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E619E365 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:19:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A668F19E353 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:19:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9335 invoked by uid 502); 3 Oct 2009 12:19:18 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-172.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.172) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 12:19:18 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20091003081507.0111fa00@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:19:14 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Ws In-Reply-To: References: <788445.48337.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Subject: Re: Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 14:19:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7414d27641076813867 Doing it to a Porche is way cooler. http://web.mit.edu/evt/porsche914.html Ws At some time, retro silver wrote: >> >> You are talking about the OM of the automotive industry, right...:) >> > >Absolutely. Chrysler make a HUGE blunder ending that one. > > >> It has been a fantastic vehicle (despite what Chris says...:) I admit. >> You are right, they never brake, despite the amounts of abuse...and its >> turning radios is smaller than that of most compacts. I just started doing >> preventative maintenance at 160K >> > >Mine developed brake problems too. ;) > > >> One day, when the technology becomes available, I am going to throw the >> gasoline engine and install an electic motor. >> > >Believe it or not, this is not that far fetched. Your Cherokee is one of the >lightest vehicles made. Pull the engine out (it's the heaviest part of the >vehicle) and it's got a lot of potential for electrification. In fact, I >think it's already been done. > >AG >-- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 14:47:11 2009 Received: (qmail 12036 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 12:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 12:47:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97194E1822C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8996E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B692F19E41A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8DB19E413 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jgettis81@earthlink.net whitelisted) Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.175.66.59] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mu40v-00059s-KW for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:47:05 -0400 Message-ID: <380-22009106312475390@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows) From: "jgettis81@earthlink.net" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:47:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 6b7b8904845c0a29efb139d2bf51ae107e972de0d01da940b5890047e126efefcee8db55c4cd2f08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.175.66.59 Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 14:47:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac747cf151821220213263 I am far from being an expert on any type of car but did not VW advertise that the Touareg have better ground clearence than the Hummer. John > [Original Message] > From: Ken Norton > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Date: 10/1/2009 10:40:19 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 > > > > > The Liberty (aka Cherokee for the rest of the world), Patriot, Compass > > arent really Jeeps. They fall into the category of the Touareg, Land Rover > > etc. Cars that you haul your groceries with, take your girls to a soccer > > practice with, but cant really take out in the wilderness. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 14:53:47 2009 Received: (qmail 26494 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 12:53:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 12:53:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A26E181BA for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB8DE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E9F34AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:53:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8768C34AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13943 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2009 12:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 12:53:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:53:34 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 14:53:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7495b59541357919056 Seems appropriate. He has the earlier f3.5 version listed as well. Pricey but in nice condition. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 9:40 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Strange that the images of the camera, case and box are posted in B&W. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> > and-Box_W0QQitemZ170304176879> >> Anyone? :-) >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 15:12:16 2009 Received: (qmail 24025 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 13:12:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 13:12:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD58E1822E for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE7CE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B000E34AC027 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1892C34AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30903 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 13:12:08 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 13:12:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:12:07 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091002-0, 10/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 15:12:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac74db083801234514069 Perhaps more aesthetic but less informative for the buyer Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Seems appropriate. He has the earlier f3.5 version listed as well. > Pricey but in nice condition. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 03/10/2009, at 9:40 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Strange that the images of the camera, case and box are posted in B&W. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> >> and-Box_W0QQitemZ170304176879> >>> Anyone? :-) >>> Andrew Fildes >>> afildes@people.net.au >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 15:32:02 2009 Received: (qmail 18328 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 13:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 13:32:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E6EE182A3 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A0CE240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7946534AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC7B34AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1527035bwz.14 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.84.6 with SMTP id m6mr1449344mul.26.1254576713048; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:31:53 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b25209c5ba69e09a Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 15:32:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac75251126351073733319 Nope... that eagle hasn't landed yet.... ;-(. But I do feel there is a e-p'n' with pen f adapter in my future, so it might stack... Regards, Frank 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > I understand... it is just part of the programme: selling so you can > justify buying! > is the 200f5 mounted on a pen F now? :-) > > iwert > > 2009/10/3 Frank Wijsmuller : > > What is the point of that? Zuikolism rules here, isn't it? Mine's not for > > sale ;-) > > > > Regards, Frank > > > > > > 2009/10/3 iwert bernakiewicz > > > >> Yes, there a few on the bay... but I always like to ask here first :) > >> Thanks for the heads up! > >> > >> Iwert > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 16:00:48 2009 Received: (qmail 12658 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 14:00:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 14:00:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30152E18277 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8F7E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B9C19E688 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E78119E672 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1866867fxm.37 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr345377hbe.83.1254578442054; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:00:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0cc394e3ba791032 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 16:00:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac759106311946193717 > > What is the point of that? Zuikolism rules here, isn't it? Mine's not for > sale ;-) My wife says that if I want that 250 F2 the 200 F4 has to go... Along with the dog and my Jeep.... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 16:10:15 2009 Received: (qmail 20431 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 14:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 14:10:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65612E182AE for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EB4E240B4 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471BD19E6C9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE97419E6C8 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jgettis81@earthlink.net whitelisted) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.175.66.59] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mu5JH-0006xc-34 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:10:07 -0400 Message-ID: <380-22009106314106962@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows) From: "jgettis81@earthlink.net" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:10:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 6b7b8904845c0a29efb139d2bf51ae107e972de0d01da940160e85a09a1576d56282a121bdf167b3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.175.66.59 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 16:10:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac75b4754665368819438 Best comment ever from my wife was when I was explaining my plans right after purchasing my second HD tv in less then two years. I was telling her that I intended to put that tv a 42" on the wall in our bed room when I got a 50 or 60 for the living room. She interupted me and with that smile only a wife can bring off told me " but honey that won"t fit in your tent" I am quite happy with my 42 now. John > [Original Message] > From: Ken Norton > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Date: 10/3/2009 7:00:48 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 > > > > > What is the point of that? Zuikolism rules here, isn't it? Mine's not for > > sale ;-) > > > > My wife says that if I want that 250 F2 the 200 F4 has to go... > > Along with the dog and my Jeep.... > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 16:17:47 2009 Received: (qmail 26542 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 14:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 14:17:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F652E182A3 for ; 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 20:33:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac798e628091342116753 Where you open the little flap thingie to attach electronic cords and such, there's a chute for curry and other ingredients. I think the D3x only has 5 ethnic cuisines to choose from. Latest rumors out of Nykon Control are the number will increase to 10 with the D4 and 15 with the D4x. It's proved a very popular option. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > I presume that the D3x cooks as well? > Didn't see that option in the menus. > Wonder if it does Indian... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 21:34:26 2009 Received: (qmail 19749 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 19:34:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 19:34:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D1AE181CC for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BB1E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D0B19ED8B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400E19ED6D for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so2599451gxk.8 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.42.1 with SMTP id p1mr6942089ybp.15.1254598459357; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> <4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:34:19 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910031234i18a20710k420a6795f2797deb@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 21:34:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7a742280016789618724 20% OFF! WOW! But $700 is a bit steep for a shooter 6x6 TLR, isn't it?! -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 21:37:48 2009 Received: (qmail 12961 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 19:37:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 19:37:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88758E18246 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEA0E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2558219ED92 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A4A19ED90 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (stephan@vandenzegel.be whitelisted) Received: from mail.nt-activehost.net (mail.nt-activehost.net [161.58.181.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stephanVDZ.lan [94.108.164.158] by mail.nt-activehost.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.23) id A803094C; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:37:39 +0200 Message-Id: From: "Stephan@vandenzegel.be" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910031234i18a20710k420a6795f2797deb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:37:27 +0200 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net> <4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> <7ac27f4f0910031234i18a20710k420a6795f2797deb@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-mxGuard-Info: Processed by mail.nt-activehost.net using mxGuard v3.1 X-mxGuard-SpoolID: a7fd04580000788a X-mxGuard-Sender: stephan@vandenzegel.be X-mxGuard-Trusted: SMTP-AUTH [stephan@vandenzegel.be] X-mxGuard-Spam-Score: 0 X-mxGuard-Spam-Probability: CLEAN X-Note: This message has been scanned for spam by mxGuard Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 21:37:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7a80c319471612113968 for a A 2,8 with case and all... it's cheap I have a B 2,8... and i'm still looking for a lenscap and a leather case Stephan Le 3 oct. 09 =E0 21:34, Richard Man a =E9crit : > 20% OFF! WOW! > > But $700 is a bit steep for a shooter 6x6 TLR, isn't it?! > > > > -- = > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: > http://rfman.wordpress.com > // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > Stephan VAN DEN ZEGEL 22 vieux Thier B-4570 Marchin Belgium -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 22:26:50 2009 Received: (qmail 24963 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 20:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 20:26:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD1FE1829E for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A035E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BD219F1A0 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71F119F19D for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:26:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1620283ewy.37 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.128.9 with SMTP id f9mr4528857ebn.93.1254601601792; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm568654eyz.2.2009.10.03.13.26.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net><93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:26:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpEGPq7QExW8b8uSJaguK4cWuNz/QATmgIg Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 22:26:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7b38a86309730998309 I agree however reference to it may cause the officer to pause and reflect or consult with his/her Inspector before doing anything rash. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 03 October 2009 12:02 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. Thanks, Dave. I'm glad that it has been documented by the police, but I should think that each case would be treated on the merits and grumpiness of the policeman at the scene. Chris On 3 Oct 2009, at 00:27, David Bell wrote: > http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm > > Dave -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 3 23:42:41 2009 Received: (qmail 29879 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 21:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 21:42:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3EBE1829D for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3053E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C597B34AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160D634AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27337 invoked by uid 502); 3 Oct 2009 21:42:31 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-172.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.172) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 21:42:31 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20091003173751.022a5588@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:42:28 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Ws In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_ita?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 3 23:42:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7c551241473900897491 At 11:21 AM 10/3/2009, Nathan shared: >We are back to normal October weather in Alicante: > >http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#668618409_EPUt8-O-LB Thank goodness for you. New England has entered the blah season. So, which boat is yours? Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 01:01:52 2009 Received: (qmail 10953 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 23:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 23:01:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E885E182AE for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3586DE240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8C01CD48A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:01:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6531CD485 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23982 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 23:01:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 23:01:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC7D7D3.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:01:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net><93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 01:01:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7d7e0202321006886880 If I were in the UK I would carry a copy of that doc in my camera bag just as I carry a copy of this US based document in my own bag Chuck Norcutt David Bell wrote: > I agree however reference to it may cause the officer to pause and reflect > or consult with his/her Inspector before doing anything rash. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > Sent: 03 October 2009 12:02 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. > > Thanks, Dave. I'm glad that it has been documented by the police, but I > should think that each case would be treated on the merits and grumpiness of > the policeman at the scene. > > Chris > > On 3 Oct 2009, at 00:27, David Bell wrote: > >> http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm >> >> Dave > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 01:04:54 2009 Received: (qmail 21538 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 23:04:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 23:04:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A38AE18279 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4A2E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864B34AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE22834AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:04:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26457 invoked by uid 504); 3 Oct 2009 23:04:47 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2009 23:04:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC7D88F.2030301@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:04:47 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7.0.1.0.2.20091003173751.022a5588@zuik.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091003173751.022a5588@zuik.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_ita?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 01:04:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7d896140501357919056 The girl is sitting on it, Wayne. It has a small, terra cotta runway deck to launch the aircraft. Chuck Norcutt Ws wrote: > At 11:21 AM 10/3/2009, Nathan shared: >> We are back to normal October weather in Alicante: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#668618409_EPUt8-O-LB > > Thank goodness for you. New England has entered the blah season. > > So, which boat is yours? > > Wayne > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 02:16:11 2009 Received: (qmail 24040 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 00:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 00:16:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD50E18246 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A88CE240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621CD34AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6FE34AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:16:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1730592bwz.14 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr383500hbe.83.1254615360061; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:16:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ccae2eb5e4c8600e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 02:16:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7e94b157195034211378 The final weekend. Tomorrow (Sunday) at 4:00 PM, the Grinnell Stewart Library closes to the public for the last time. In four weeks the new Drake Library will be open. The one classic feature of the Stewart Library is the glass floors. I was over there today (and will be again tomorrow) getting last shots for the library project. When the new library opens there will be about 20 fiber-glossy B&W 11x14 prints hanging in the new library. While finishing up the B&W shots, I also shot the library in color with the E-1. Here is a single image from today. http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=462&Itemid=1 AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 02:57:51 2009 Received: (qmail 27875 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 00:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 00:57:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80547E18244 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C7FE240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D780034AC025 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD4234AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n940veCm029144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:57:42 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:57:32 +1100 Message-ID: <002101ca448d$a8a20b70$f9e62250$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpEh+NokcDdlNl9QO+yHzaB0j5oRQABZORQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 02:57:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7f30f181621950411718 > > The final weekend. Tomorrow (Sunday) at 4:00 PM, the Grinnell Stewart > Library closes to the public for the last time. In four weeks the new > Drake > Library will be open. The one classic feature of the Stewart Library is > the > glass floors. I was over there today (and will be again tomorrow) > getting > last shots for the library project. When the new library opens there > will be > about 20 fiber-glossy B&W 11x14 prints hanging in the new library. > While finishing up the B&W shots, I also shot the library in color with > the > E-1. Here is a single image from today. > > http://zone- > 10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=462&Itemid=1 > What happens to the old library now ? ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 02:59:48 2009 Received: (qmail 13604 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 00:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 00:59:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECD3E181CC for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEEDE240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510AF1CD485 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F221CD486 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26846 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 00:59:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 00:59:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC7F37B.2070601@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:59:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 02:59:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac7f38472976789618724 Nice shot! Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > The final weekend. Tomorrow (Sunday) at 4:00 PM, the Grinnell Stewart > Library closes to the public for the last time. In four weeks the new Drake > Library will be open. The one classic feature of the Stewart Library is the > glass floors. I was over there today (and will be again tomorrow) getting > last shots for the library project. When the new library opens there will be > about 20 fiber-glossy B&W 11x14 prints hanging in the new library. > While finishing up the B&W shots, I also shot the library in color with the > E-1. Here is a single image from today. > > http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=462&Itemid=1 > > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 05:03:40 2009 Received: (qmail 15049 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 03:03:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 03:03:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EA6E181AE for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0A3E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7068534AC026 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91F334AC024 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 49010 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 03:03:33 -0000 Message-ID: <426982.3957.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IpQCF40VM1kdACBTZi7GiDhAVQXM1vT_2kBuQf3dGIr1uOgl2O07IJ_f4ZTbORERG9IbpuvSeaz1KVIU_N0M6anQes4KbWitvmyTPKS2yUe.XCvHOEd7F8B.IE7bNUFAwWr_RFNs14Z.g7LHjuTMUdQbeKfFpO.wRhHG7hdQNSEWWta0kwhO5QK6Q.Zb7uGhxRdMSWhX5E.3ZkN_GTZFQyGGd4fcVk19MHmg4d5KPqhVdKTmwbK1wQnsLcx0uwcBHxIlEfQj6X_L4pAq4BerbLLgtLxAR3JkqTcsUWiGrc1iP5koc0RJEuSQqkJtv57VfYWqMV1QLt6J7kg5V2Lk.W7hrdRhGIOLW5i_SgcTimD.a9IlPO4SzRtm8Q-- Received: from [71.186.243.178] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:03:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 05:03:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8108c281721076813867 What is normal weather like? Nice shot! > We are back to normal October weather > in Alicante: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#668618409_EPUt8-O-LB > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 06:24:49 2009 Received: (qmail 22305 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 04:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 04:24:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19199E1824C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F3E240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4591CD48B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:24:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA67B1CD486 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E67314097 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCE031408E for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:24:46 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 06:24:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac82391258421950411718 It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the real 357's or are they the 357/303's? http://www.sr44.com/ Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 08:12:36 2009 Received: (qmail 32525 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 06:12:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 06:12:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC08EDC03F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFCEE240D9 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5471CD489 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7641CD486 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:12:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CD4C96D7 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:43:01 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:12:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC7D7D3.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net><93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <4AC7D7D3.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <54A30FB6-013F-4647-8EF8-A53794A046C7@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 08:12:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac83cd4315275034211378 Good idea, Chuck, I'm going to do that. I'll let you know if I have a problem ... :-) Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 00:01, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > If I were in the UK I would carry a copy of that doc in my camera bag > just as I carry a copy of this US based document in my own bag > > > Chuck Norcutt > > David Bell wrote: >> I agree however reference to it may cause the officer to pause and >> reflect >> or consult with his/her Inspector before doing anything rash. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] >> Sent: 03 October 2009 12:02 >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: Re: [OM] London Met Police guidelines on Photography. >> >> Thanks, Dave. I'm glad that it has been documented by the police, >> but I >> should think that each case would be treated on the merits and >> grumpiness of >> the policeman at the scene. >> >> Chris >> >> On 3 Oct 2009, at 00:27, David Bell wrote: >> >>> http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:12:32 2009 Received: (qmail 10617 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:12:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:12:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CF3E181BA for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C91EE240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C4B3610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:12:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD443610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22092 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2009 09:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:12:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com><7.0.1.0.2.20091001190031.022b2650@zuik.net><4AC57B4F.2070605@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091002073607.0114dfd8@zuik.net> <93519DD0EF6C4EC2934DEBB196B83CDA@user4fec106f50> <81FAAF8E-18C5-43C0-89D4-EFDFA3380E4F@threeshoes.net> <5F1FCE94-F7A3-4056-866E-5FD1C6233EBD@people.net.au> <4AC73844.6040200@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC74DA7.8030507@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <89D7C461-ECCC-4CDB-8925-6F6FA041EC6C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:12:19 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olyflex X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:12:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac866ff275059752976205 Can't see the rust, hey? I must admit that I did this myself a few times when I sold very old cameras on ebay - they looked better somehow. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/10/2009, at 11:12 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Perhaps more aesthetic but less informative for the buyer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:34:21 2009 Received: (qmail 353 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:34:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:34:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C185E181DE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39DAE240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9FE3610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:34:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45813610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1839896bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:34:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.146 with SMTP id g18mr368617hba.105.1254648852840; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:34:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 37: Brighton X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:34:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac86c1d98072439112457 Hi Nathan and all, I've been very busy these days... and still a lot of digests to reply ;^) From: Nathan Wajsman >http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=288 Alt-1: another beautiful palette of subtle colours. Alt-2: I love this kind of pics! With the narrow strip of reflected sun, and the small area of particularly flat water by the pier. Alt-8: Great! With that ample DoF, I lose the sense of proportions -- looks loke a giant bird about to eat a tiny human being! I prefer this to the other two in the series. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:38:16 2009 Received: (qmail 9018 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:38:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C79E181CB for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318F2E240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1619719DF0E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:38:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53AF19DEFE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:38:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1840828bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:38:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.24 with SMTP id q24mr487544hbe.2.1254649086645; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAD 23/09/2009: stormy clouds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:38:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac86d0871539752976205 Hi Nathan and all, From: Nathan Wajsman >During this afternoon's bicycle ride along the beach: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#658875115_rmE8S-O-LB I'm not a fan of B&W pictures on a computer screen, but this one looks great! Congratulations! BTW, there's no lens data on the EXIF... I assume it was taken with an uncoded lens. Adapted LTM, by chance? Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:41:58 2009 Received: (qmail 12617 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:41:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445E7E18279 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49C1E240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988FA3610003 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:41:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D543610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:41:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2234177fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:41:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.79 with SMTP id s15mr435279hbs.106.1254649311354; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Moon and Cloud X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:41:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac86de619831234514069 Hi Ken and all, I've been very busy these days... and still a lot of digests to reply ;^) >www.zone-10.com >I finally got around to downloading some memory cards into the computer. >This shot was just screaming to have something done to it. All processing >performed in Picture Window Pro. I also like the "grain" -- that good old E1 has a rather "film-like" noise, much nicer to my eyes than the usual colourful mess... BTW, it seems you almost nailed the Moony-11 rule ;^) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:44:34 2009 Received: (qmail 21430 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:44:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:44:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E3CE1824E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAE2E240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162563610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:44:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4242D3610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1842384bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:44:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.79 with SMTP id s15mr435413hbs.106.1254649465798; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: My sister makes pierogi X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:44:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac86e82104931234514069 Hi Nathan and all, From: Nathan Wajsman >Pierogi are a kind of dumpling, a traditional Polish dish. Every time >my sister visits, she makes us some. This time she came late Thursday >night (or Friday morning), and Friday evening she produced a delicious >batch: > >http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Pierogi They look like 'empanadillas' to me :-) I'm sure you all had a great time eating. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 11:48:09 2009 Received: (qmail 9233 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 09:48:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 09:48:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE72E1829E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5C0E240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8F419DF4A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DC719DF39 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2236102fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:48:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.133 with SMTP id t5mr379369hbt.91.1254649683222; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?utf-8?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_26/09/2009=3A_unsharp_se=C3=B1orita?= =?utf-8?q?_with_sharp_object?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 11:48:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac86f59211902517112723 Hi Nathan and all, < http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#661140162_SMWpJ-O-LB > OMG! I think the lack of sharpness makes this picture even more powerful. Scary! And yes, I'm sure the knife is already sharp enough :-) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:01:46 2009 Received: (qmail 18237 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:01:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A43E18244 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53F6E240D9 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A059A3610003 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42323610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1846603bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:01:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.79 with SMTP id s15mr436369hbs.106.1254650498054; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 38: autumn begins for real X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:01:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8728a96241744846740 Hi Nathan and all, From: Nathan Wajsman Main: I like when it _stops_ raining... and I believe it's the best time to take pics! A funny detail is the micro-car at the right :-) Alt-1: WOW! All that I said to your previous PAW, and then that impressive bow of clouds, looking so "dense"... Alt-2: Then, there were subtle colours. Now, there are STRONG colours -- equally GREAT picture! Alt-3: The "alien evidence" doesn't attract me, but the light effects at the horizon do -- which is brighter, the sea or the sky? Both happen. Nice! Alt-4: Wow! It had to be a really strong wind! Alt-5: A WINNER!!! Perhaps 24mm? Alt-9: That's a funny vehicle. There is currently a thread about taking pictures of police officers... did he worry about you and your camera? IMHO, Local policemen seem less reasonable than other types... Cheers, -- Carlos J. 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Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:17:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac87621242724877110844 Hi Chuck, Ken and all, From: Chuck Norcutt >I'm pretty sure all the Canyon users here shoot raw. No, I don't ;^) Although I'll stop being a Canyon user soon... The Canyon software I had in the old (1995) computer I had back when I purchased the 300D (2003) was simply awful, very slow, and showed very little advantage to a reasonable exposed JPEG -- I use the highest compression setting, indeed. Ken Norton wrote: > Now I just ignore it altogether. It is obvious that just like MP3 audio > files being accepted as "great", the dumbing down of the masses has occurred > and the Canyon "look" is accepted as "great". Something like that -- I rarely buy CD's. For casual, background listening, MP3 does the trick. If I want to _listen_ to music, I use film... eeeer, I mean... buy vynil ;^) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:22:08 2009 Received: (qmail 5246 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:22:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:22:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A25E18246 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A288E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FC13610003 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:21:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343083610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:21:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so736192fga.8 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:21:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.20 with SMTP id v20mr411954hbh.208.1254651716962; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:21:56 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. 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Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Diesel Jeep, was: Re: Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:26:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac87860217971258626592 Hi Ken and all, From: Ken Norton >Oh, now that is something that absolutely fries my goat. I want a Jeep with >the diesel engine in it. The CRD works great everywhere else in the world, >but the one and only time they brought it into the USA it resulted in 100% >transmission failures. > >Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic >transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual >transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. Funny... wasn't the opposite way? I always thought that it's way easier to make an automatic transmission able to handle much torque -- or at least, that's what Mercedes always said. >Meanwhile GM is screwing around with that loser "Volt" when they could >achieve similar efficiencies with a decent little diesel. An electric car is a mechanic alternative, NOT an energetic alternative... Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:30:02 2009 Received: (qmail 25464 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:30:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:30:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D075BE18200 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93272E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6A53610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:29:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B90F3610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:29:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1853820bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:29:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.104 with SMTP id n40mr433182hba.174.1254652194570; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:30:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8792a319501220213263 Hi Mike, Dawid and all, From: Mike Lazzari >In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 and 135 on the >telescoping tube and E510. I'm finding my limits are operator error, >poor eyesight, wind and camera shake even on a sturdy tripod. Not even >approaching the limits of the lenses even at very small apertures. > >http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg >http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg >http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg >http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg Nice pictures, especially 1554! I own the 80/4 auto. I usually don't look for the highest resolving power, but in the fields of contrast and apparent sharpness, this lens is superb -- around 1:1, of course. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:33:02 2009 Received: (qmail 15350 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:33:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CDDE1829D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BDEE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000453610003 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:32:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664343610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:32:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2250922fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:32:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.204 with SMTP id l12mr418882hbe.36.1254652375172; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:32:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:33:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac879de92881006886880 Hi Jeff and all, From: "Jeff Keller" >The Zuiko 200mm f5 was made in a MC version. Just going by the serial nos. >there were about 11,000 Ag Schnozzed; somewhere between 11,000 and 19,000 >black nosed F. Zuiko 200mm f5 lenses. Mine (NOT for sale) is #116xxx, blacknosed and single-coated -- but, unlike the 135/3.5, this doesn't seem an issue with it. >I think I've seen about 3 MC lenses >show up on ebay but could only read one serial no. at about 130000. I believe there were some multicoated 200/5 with the 'Zuiko'-only lettering. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:39:45 2009 Received: (qmail 28309 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:39:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F69E181AC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A288E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D49619E0A0 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B4719E09B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:39:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1856239bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.138 with SMTP id k10mr434584hbe.100.1254652776992; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:39:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Diopter lenses, was: once again, digital vs film X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:39:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac87b7167471073733319 Hi Dawid, Russ and all, Dawid Loubser wrote: > Of course, the C*non was a huge brick, and the viewfinder was smaller > than the OM-1 - but with good > dioptric adjustment which I seem to need more and more these days, and > I hate the OM eye cup and what it > does to the visibility of the focus screen image). So I am naively > trying to "re-train" my eyes to > switch their damn diopter back to that of a naked OM-1 viewfinder! I also hate OM eyecups! From: Russ Butler >My old eyes require diopter adjustment and I also dislike the/any >eyecup. My workaround is to remove the rubber cup and the diopter lens >retaining ring from the eyecup 1. I use an O-ring to retain the lens. >Works very well for me. I have a Minolta VN8 diopter (for the XD series, the CLE, etc) that fits perfectly _inside_ the eyepiece of any OM body -- except the oldest pre-MD OM-1's with the little-recessed eyepice, although I still could use the diopter. It only adds less than one mm of depth, so I find it quite comfortable to use. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 12:45:17 2009 Received: (qmail 25692 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 10:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 10:45:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C54E18229 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D56AE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D483610002 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:45:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC713610001 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:45:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 03:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1857716bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:45:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.146 with SMTP id g18mr371961hba.105.1254653109186; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:45:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?utf-8?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=C3=B1orit?= =?utf-8?q?a?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 12:45:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac87cbd153779752976205 Hi, Nathan and all, From: Nathan Wajsman > We are back to normal October weather in Alicante: > > > http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#668618409_EPUt8-O-LB Yeah, same here. My dad (82) has resumed swimming on the beach! And nice picture, by the way... Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 13:22:50 2009 Received: (qmail 20729 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 11:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 11:22:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E61E181A3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC826E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29934AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:22:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5650A34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:22:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1C46145E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:49:04 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:22:40 +0100 Message-Id: <0B280EA5-064B-4CDE-B2FA-DD1A5FB8A94A@threeshoes.net> References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Diesel Jeep, was: Re: Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 13:22:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8858a211941879814018 That is the normal way of things. A torque converter can absorb more torque, as I understand it, to cushion the rest of the transmission. My ML270 would have had less torque if it had had a manual gearbox; that's the way Mercedes would have tuned the engine, for that very reason. Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 11:26, Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: >> Why did it work on Euro version but not the USA version? Automatic > >> transmissions. Here in the USA you can't buy a Jeep with a manual > >> transmission and the automatics couldn't handle the torque. > > > Funny... wasn't the opposite way? I always thought that it's way > easier to > make an automatic transmission able to handle much torque -- or at > least, > that's what Mercedes always said. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 14:06:04 2009 Received: (qmail 12512 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 12:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 12:06:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD62E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D10E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A883219E103 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:05:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F3019E271 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:05:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1876150ewy.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:05:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.22.147 with SMTP id t19mr756384wet.174.1254657956698; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:05:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:05:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6c8f45e44d880d3f Message-ID: <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 14:06:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac88fac283612013633067 DON'T USE THIS SITE... On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the > consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the > real 357's or are they the 357/303's? > > http://www.sr44.com/ > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 15:12:18 2009 Received: (qmail 30437 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 13:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:12:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006D6E181A3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15EBE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08EF19E3F3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEA119E3F0 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n94DCAOK025969 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:12:10 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c26.67530d71 (14501) for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:12:06 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 15:12:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac89f32220181357919056 Are you going to post the 20 B&W someplace? Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 15:16:36 2009 Received: (qmail 10387 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 13:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:16:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CCEE182A4 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74596E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B65634AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:16:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA36634AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2005 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 13:16:27 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 13:16:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:16:26 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 15:16:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8a034296819752976205 Then you should try a Canyon 5D and Adobe Camera Raw instead! Technology has moved on. Chuck Norcutt Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > Hi Chuck, Ken and all, > > From: Chuck Norcutt > >> I'm pretty sure all the Canyon users here shoot raw. > > > No, I don't ;^) Although I'll stop being a Canyon user soon... > > > The Canyon software I had in the old (1995) computer I had back when I > purchased the 300D (2003) was simply awful, very slow, and showed very > little advantage to a reasonable exposed JPEG -- I use the highest > compression setting, indeed. > > > Ken Norton wrote: > >> Now I just ignore it altogether. It is obvious that just like MP3 audio > >> files being accepted as "great", the dumbing down of the masses has > occurred > >> and the Canyon "look" is accepted as "great". > > > Something like that -- I rarely buy CD's. For casual, background listening, > MP3 does the trick. If I want to _listen_ to music, I use film... eeeer, I > mean... buy vynil ;^) > > Cheers, -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 15:40:36 2009 Received: (qmail 13653 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 13:40:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:40:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095BDE18236 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5178FE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EF534AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C459534AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:40:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C676546165A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:06:52 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:40:28 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 15:40:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8a5d4101861879814018 Yes, it looks like an interesting place, Ken. Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 14:12, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Are you going to post the 20 B&W someplace? Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 15:41:32 2009 Received: (qmail 27480 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 13:41:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:41:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDECE1819F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E150E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF5319E24F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757919DF68 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16421 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 13:41:04 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 13:41:04 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:41:04 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 15:41:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8a60c240075034211378 I don't know where the best place is to buy any more but the original Everready 357s are no longer made. The replacement is called 357/303 or 367/303H. Note that the 303H is rated at 175 mAh while the 303 is rated only 150 mAh. Durcell lists their own version of the 357 (D303/357) as 165 mAh but their MS76 (another 357 compatible) is shown at 180 mAh. These values are from a paper that Tim Hughes put together about 2 years ago and I just double checked the Duracell values on their site. Tim's paper contains probably far more info than you really want to know. Lots of time, temperature and load discharge curves. :-) Chuck Norcutt Jez Cunningham wrote: > DON'T USE THIS SITE... > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: >> It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the >> consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the >> real 357's or are they the 357/303's? >> >> http://www.sr44.com/ >> >> Mike >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 15:59:17 2009 Received: (qmail 9734 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 13:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:59:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91429E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9E5E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C319E510 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:59:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D1E19E333 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13271132.4461254665526163.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196-209-221-123-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za ([196.209.221.123]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 574 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:12:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:59:08 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 15:59:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8aa3529461357919056 For most images, contrast etc. usually make a bigger impact on how sharp the final image looks, I agree. It's just that for a pet project of mine, I need massive resolving power at around 1:2, even at the expense of contrast, for Pan F has high contrast by itself :-) The 90/2.0 Macro is *superb*, but does begin to get out of its depth by 1:2. At 1:5-1:10 though, I have never seen a sharper lens. I am hoping the 80/4.0 is a fairly cheap route to achieving superb resolving power (better than the 50/20 or 90/2.0) at around 1:2, and still wish somebody could dig me out some figures, MTF graph, or something... I still want to know whether it's basically diffraction-limited at around f/4.0 or f/5.6, or not. On the one hand, well-made normal lenses (like the 50/1.4 [>1.1m s/n]) can be diffraction-limited at f/5.6, on the other hand, we have the 20mm Macro lens (both versions) which is also apparently diffraction-limited around wide open, but I've never seen data on the 80/4.0. On 04 Oct 2009, at 12:29 PM, Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > I usually don't look for the highest resolving power, > but in the fields of contrast and apparent sharpness, this lens is > superb -- > around 1:1, of course. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:05:36 2009 Received: (qmail 2218 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:05:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66704E1822D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A11E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8035119E513 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:05:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E5019E510 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:05:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9802903.4471254665906717.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196-209-221-123-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za ([196.209.221.123]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 801 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:05:27 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Diopter lenses, was: once again, digital vs film X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:05:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8abaf259364877110844 Wow, that looks like a great solution, now I just need to get my eyes tested to find out which dioptric adjustment I need (I just know I need *some*, but not which would actually be best for my eyes) and then I will try one of these. I love this list - only via it would I have found out how perfect the Konica 24mm lens hood is for my Zuiko 24/2.0, and now this small Minolta dioptric correction that fits *inside* the eyepiece... On 04 Oct 2009, at 12:39 PM, Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > I have a Minolta VN8 diopter (for the XD series, the CLE, etc) that > fits > perfectly _inside_ the eyepiece of any OM body -- except the oldest > pre-MD > OM-1's with the little-recessed eyepice, although I still could use > the > diopter. > It only adds less than one mm of depth, so I find it quite > comfortable to > use. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:19:53 2009 Received: (qmail 12436 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:19:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE20FE182A2 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3DE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B259034AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0734AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <21315523.4481254666761677.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196-209-221-123-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za ([196.209.221.123]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 177 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:32:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC6329A.40203@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:19:42 +0200 References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555F94@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> <33064361.4201254500138637.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4AC6329A.40203@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80 macro, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:19:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8af09241491560218263 From that perspective, yes. I have been looking purely at the size of the object being photographed, and the size of the image as it's projected on a capture medium. In either case, there is a huge difference between the two I think - a Rodenstock 75mm enlarging lens is made to "photograph" an object of around 7x7cm, and project it to a capture medium that may be ~30x40cm. A Zuiko Macro lens e.g. the 80/4.0 was made to photograph an area of around 4x4cm, and to project it to a capture area the same size. Surely, the lens designs are totally different, and there is no comparing such an enlarging lens to the 80/4.0 in terms of 1:1 performance, not even the best enlarging lens should be as good, unless it compromises resolving power for making bigger prints. Also, since the 80/4.0 is completely symmetrical, the direction in which it's mounted should make no difference, save perhaps for lens coatings, etc. On 02 Oct 2009, at 7:04 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > But I should think the comparative image circle for the enlarging lens > is the the diagonal of the film... not the print. The only difference > between the enlarger lens and the camera lens is the direction of > travel > of the light. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:25:56 2009 Received: (qmail 14003 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:25:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:25:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E92E181DE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64209E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA2134AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC8534AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1834 invoked by uid 502); 4 Oct 2009 14:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.95.101.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 14:25:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:25:41 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:25:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b074255102517112723 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Then you should try a Canyon 5D and Adobe Camera Raw instead! > Technology has moved on. > Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the case, time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to Steep Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice images, but they will add something different to some of the previous 300D images, rather than replacing them. I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is extensive, stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like an app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. I had the opportunity to shoot a couple of images with my lens on a 5DII. To convert the RAW images, I simply downloaded the latest DPP. I still have my 300D, it still works fine and is along for the ride as back-up. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:36:19 2009 Received: (qmail 13115 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:36:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3421E1829F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4C6E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D76834AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D634AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14093 invoked by uid 502); 4 Oct 2009 14:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.95.101.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 14:36:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8B2DC.6080906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:36:12 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:36:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b2e3252561006886880 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I don't know where the best place is to buy any more but the original Everready 357s are no longer made. The replacement is called 357/303 or 367/303H. Note that the 303H is rated at 175 mAh while the 303 is rated > only 150 mAh. > For OM use, it's not the capacity, it's the curve. The 357/303 has a bad curve, dropping continuously. It will fall below the minimum for shutter operation, leading to shutter lock-up, long before using up all the capacity. The 357/303H has a nice flat curve out to 600 hrs, that drops fairly suddenly. Not quite an incarnation of the original 357, but MUCH better suited for OMs than the non "H" version. Doesn't matter where you buy, as long as it's the correct version. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:47:51 2009 Received: (qmail 30307 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:47:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:47:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154B1E1829D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A096FE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8710719E6FE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E960E19E6F5 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:47:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22813 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 14:47:41 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 14:47:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8B58D.8000907@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:47:41 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9802903.4471254665906717.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <9802903.4471254665906717.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Diopter lenses, was: once again, digital vs film X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:47:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b596121901234514069 You might like to review this page which discusses correction lenses for OM 1 & 2 and the apparent distance to the focusing screens and also has some commentary on the subject of correction lenses by our own John Hermanson. For years I have thought the apparent distance of the screen was about 1 meter (as most SLRs?) but this page says 2 meters and is backed up by this page (about 1/2 way down) Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > Wow, that looks like a great solution, now I just need to get my eyes > tested to find out which > dioptric adjustment I need (I just know I need *some*, but not which > would actually be best for my eyes) > and then I will try one of these. > > I love this list - only via it would I have found out how perfect the > Konica 24mm lens hood is for > my Zuiko 24/2.0, and now this small Minolta dioptric correction that > fits *inside* the eyepiece... > > On 04 Oct 2009, at 12:39 PM, Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: >> I have a Minolta VN8 diopter (for the XD series, the CLE, etc) that >> fits >> perfectly _inside_ the eyepiece of any OM body -- except the oldest >> pre-MD >> OM-1's with the little-recessed eyepice, although I still could use >> the >> diopter. >> It only adds less than one mm of depth, so I find it quite >> comfortable to >> use. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:48:52 2009 Received: (qmail 2994 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:48:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C33E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AE9E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E26219E6FA for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC56E19E6F5 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:48:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2339469fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:48:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.197 with SMTP id l5mr463243hbe.82.1254667697695; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:48:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:48:17 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dfd6f317eda52e10 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:48:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b5d4177491560218263 > > Are you going to post the 20 B&W someplace? Bill Barber > Yes. Once completed. The B&W master prints need to be done in time for the new library opening so I might be a bit "restricted" in my on-line activities over the next several weeks. Three sets of numbered prints. Two for the library, one for me. Along with that is the photo documentation of the move itself. I'm planning out that one and will need an assistant photographer to pull that one off. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:51:39 2009 Received: (qmail 10587 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:51:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6CE182A0 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6892EE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4854834AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:51:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97ABE34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:51:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2340708fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:51:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.144 with SMTP id k16mr476865hbe.103.1254667892586; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:51:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:51:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9045b6604ab7c794 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Moon and Cloud X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:51:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b67b96229730998309 > > I also like the "grain" -- that good old E1 has a rather "film-like" noise, > much nicer to my eyes than the usual colourful mess... > Thanks. Not all noise is "E1 Noise". There was a bit of artistic license involved. :) BTW, it seems you almost nailed the Moony-11 rule ;^) > Thanks. I use Loonie-Leven. :) If I get brave, I might post the original. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 16:56:43 2009 Received: (qmail 405 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 14:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:56:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E6CE182A1 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B859CE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B6C34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2050734AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28172 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 14:56:37 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 16:56:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8b7ab177936789618724 Can't complain about those. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Then you should try a Canyon 5D and Adobe Camera Raw instead! >> Technology has moved on. >> > > Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the > beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the case, > time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with > the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to Steep > Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice > images, but they will add something different to some of the previous > 300D images, rather than replacing them. > > > I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at > least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In > Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is extensive, > stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like an > app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. > > I had the opportunity to shoot a couple of images with my lens on a > 5DII. To convert the RAW images, I simply downloaded the latest DPP. > > I still have my 300D, it still works fine and is along for the ride as > back-up. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 17:08:03 2009 Received: (qmail 18670 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 15:08:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 15:08:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BDCE18214 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE4FE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338E034AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ADA34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 15:07:56 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 17:08:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ba5331512439112457 Yikes! I didn't look at the discharge curve. I thought all silver oxide were pretty flat but that isn't so. Looks like Eveready 303H is the best bet. Tim's original paper is available on Mark's site: I don't know how to interpret the curves for all the other batteries there not knowing what the current draw is of the various cameras. I seem to recall that JH said the OM-2s and original OM-4 were highest at about 8 mA. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> I don't know where the best place is to buy any more but the original Everready 357s are no longer made. The replacement is called 357/303 or 367/303H. Note that the 303H is rated at 175 mAh while the 303 is rated >> only 150 mAh. >> > > For OM use, it's not the capacity, it's the curve. The 357/303 has a bad > curve, dropping continuously. It will fall below the minimum for shutter > operation, leading to shutter lock-up, long before using up all the > capacity. > > The 357/303H has a nice flat curve out to 600 hrs, that drops fairly > suddenly. Not quite an incarnation of the original 357, but MUCH better > suited for OMs than the non "H" version. Doesn't matter where you buy, > as long as it's the correct version. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 17:28:45 2009 Received: (qmail 7411 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 15:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 15:28:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B5FE181D8 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDA4E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2485934AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F434AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:28:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (lostkase@bellsouth.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpd220 (adsl-241-32-167.sdf.bellsouth.net[74.241.32.167]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20091004152838H05005l6t8e>; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:28:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.241.32.167] Message-ID: <24CB6711F8EB4775981D82E38D1641A4@hpd220> From: "Bob Docherty" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:28:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 17:28:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8bf2d298012013633067 Mike, This seems to be the general consensus regarding these folks: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SR44_PlainBrownWrapperBatteries Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [OM] 357 batteries > It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the > consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the > real 357's or are they the 357/303's? > > > Mike > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 17:49:29 2009 Received: (qmail 15239 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 15:49:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 15:49:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438AAE18200 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05460E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39BE34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BBC34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325204615AE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:15:45 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:49:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> Message-Id: <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 17:49:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8c4098585368819438 I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, Moose. I agree with you about the software that comes with a Canon. I like the look of it better than that of Olympus, but it works well also. I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination at pretty low speeds: http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black Any ideas why not, Ian W? And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that shot, if you have the time and inclination ... Chris For some reason, the Aperture exports don't show the EXIF when you click on the "i" On 4 Oct 2009, at 15:25, Moose wrote: > > Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the > beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the > case, > time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with > the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to > Steep > Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice > images, but they will add something different to some of the previous > 300D images, rather than replacing them. > > > I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at > least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In > Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is extensive, > stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like > an > app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 18:02:41 2009 Received: (qmail 30091 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 16:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 16:02:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6F3E1829E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70471E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478BF34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:02:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8D134AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:02:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4987 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 16:02:29 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 18:02:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8c721244471234514069 I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/highlight control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE will make a big difference. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, Moose. > > I agree with you about the software that comes with a Canon. I like > the look of it better than that of Olympus, but it works well also. > > I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of > Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy > affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, > but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination > at pretty low speeds: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > > Any ideas why not, Ian W? > > And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that > shot, if you have the time and inclination ... > > Chris > > For some reason, the Aperture exports don't show the EXIF when you > click on the "i" > On 4 Oct 2009, at 15:25, Moose wrote: > >> Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the >> beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the >> case, >> time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with >> the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to >> Steep >> Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice >> images, but they will add something different to some of the previous >> 300D images, rather than replacing them. >> >> >> I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at >> least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In >> Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is extensive, >> stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like >> an >> app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 18:16:15 2009 Received: (qmail 12394 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EF5E1824E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B556E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C5534AC028 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCD834AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n94GG7ug002828 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:16:07 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:16:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 18:16:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ca4f6191612113968 Chris, the tone of your image looks very good on my monitor, just curious the water seems a bit yellowish. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" >I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, Moose. > > I agree with you about the software that comes with a Canon. I like > the look of it better than that of Olympus, but it works well also. > > I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of > Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy > affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, > but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination > at pretty low speeds: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > > Any ideas why not, Ian W? > > And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that > shot, if you have the time and inclination ... > > Chris > > For some reason, the Aperture exports don't show the EXIF when you > click on the "i" > On 4 Oct 2009, at 15:25, Moose wrote: > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 18:49:22 2009 Received: (qmail 13530 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 16:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 16:49:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28385E181AE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064FEE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7B034AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255834AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MuUGn-0001o6-RD for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:49:13 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MuUGn-0008Fg-Dq for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4AC8D20B.7010609@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:49:15 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 18:49:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8d212236981950411718 C.H.Ling wrote: > Chris, the tone of your image looks very good on my monitor, just curious > the water seems a bit yellowish. > > C.H.Ling > That's peat, Ling. Drink it down and know what good health is, or make whisky with it and live forever. I goes that colour when there's been a lot of rain, so it's pretty much permanent... Nice pix, youth. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 19:17:13 2009 Received: (qmail 10505 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 17:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 17:17:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D060FE182AF for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC04BE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926E1CD48A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:17:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391011CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:17:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840F4C9783 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:47:50 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:17:05 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 19:17:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8d899282332013633067 Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a few dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/highlight > control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE will > make a big difference. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 19:19:55 2009 Received: (qmail 13064 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 17:19:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 17:19:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EA8E1822D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18639E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF791CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:19:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB001CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:19:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C94C977E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:50:33 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4AC8D20B.7010609@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:49 +0100 Message-Id: <7040CDBA-C3EA-4693-AE44-06DD1586ACF4@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8D20B.7010609@blueyonder.co.uk> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 19:19:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8d93b45705368819438 Thanks, Donald. The water as peaty wherever we went, but it had been raining a fair bit for the previous 4 years (!) according to the proprietor of the Falls of Dochart Inn (http://www.falls-of-dochart-inn.co.uk ) Scotland remains a beautiful place; I should like to return to the far northwest again next year ... Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:49, Donald wrote: > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Chris, the tone of your image looks very good on my monitor, just >> curious >> the water seems a bit yellowish. >> >> C.H.Ling >> > > That's peat, Ling. > > Drink it down and know what good health is, or make whisky with it and > live forever. > > I goes that colour when there's been a lot of rain, so it's pretty > much > permanent... > > Nice pix, youth. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 19:25:23 2009 Received: (qmail 4660 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 17:25:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 17:25:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747C6E1824E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F320E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46A51CD48A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F331CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23779 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 17:25:14 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 17:25:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:25:13 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091003-0, 10/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 19:25:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8da83140471234514069 Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a few > dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the > contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. > > I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... > > Chris > On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/highlight >> control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE will >> make a big difference. >> >> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:04:04 2009 Received: (qmail 1525 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:04:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356B7E181DE for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCADE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE8334AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:03:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87ED434AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:03:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B533C97A5 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:34:38 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:03:54 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:04:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8e394197669730998309 It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with exactly the same image. But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). Thanks for letting me know. Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Chris Barker wrote: >> Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a >> few >> dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the >> contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. >> >> I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... >> >> Chris >> On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/ >>> highlight >>> control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE >>> will >>> make a big difference. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:11:04 2009 Received: (qmail 24594 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:11:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD1E18256 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745BBE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E70B1CD48A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2351CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19814 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 18:10:56 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 18:10:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:10:55 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:11:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8e538209041006886880 A friend recently asked me to recommend a new camera for her for under $1000 with a kit lens. It's to replace her Nikon D40X with 18-55 kit lens which she sold off to her brother. She wants to upgrade... to something. The only stated requirements were better than the D40X (which she loved) and under $1000. My first thought is to stay with Nikon since she's already familiar with the brand and likes it. But trying to figure out what to buy hasn't been so easy. There are any number of low cost bodies and kit configurations from all manufacturers but I noticed a decided price break at the $800-900 mark for body alone. That's where pentamirror viewfinders get replaced by pentaprisms. Unsurprisingly (in most cases at least), viewfinder magnification suddenly increases from the 0.8X range to 0.95X or better range. Everyone here who has a DSLR of any type has probably bemoaned the loss of viewfinder brightness and magnification relative to the champion OM-1. Since good viewfinder performance is critical to overall camera performance I decided to see if I could meet her total price requirements while also getting a body with a prism. But first there is an anomaly to be addressed. I said the pentamirrors tend to be down around 0.8X magnification with prisms being much higher. The anomaly was seen in comparing the E-620 (pentamirror) with the E-30 (pentaprism). The E-30 sports a 98% field of view at 1.02X magnification. But the E-620 isn't too far behind at 95% field of view and 0.96X magnification. In fact, even the E-510 isn't bad at 95% and 0.92X. But the recently announced Nikon D5000 (pentamirror) has 95% field of view but only 0.78X magnification. Her D40X was similar at 95% and 0.8X. Since I now live in the hinterlands with no camera store within less than a 75-100 mile drive I don't get a chance to see or handle any of these things. My question is have any of you ever directly compared the viewfinder of the E-620 and E-30. Do these specifications have any practical meaning? Is the E-620 viewfinder anywhere near as good as the E-30 as the numbers seem to indicate? Can a pentamirror really compete with a pentaprism? ps: I'm leaning toward the Nikon D90 with included 18-105 VR lens for $1080 from Cameta. A little over her budget but excellent specs for longer term ownership and I think a quantum leap over the D40X for not too much more money... pentaprism, dual control wheels, big, hi-res LCD and compatible with almost all Nikon lenses back to the F. Thanks, Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:19:25 2009 Received: (qmail 12247 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:19:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CD2E182A3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A920E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22BA1CD48C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719691CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24765 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 18:19:17 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:19:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8e72d240585368819438 I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably part of it too. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly > different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with > exactly the same image. > > But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work > computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a > cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). > > Thanks for letting me know. > > Chris > > On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Chris Barker wrote: >>> Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a >>> few >>> dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the >>> contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. >>> >>> I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... >>> >>> Chris >>> On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/ >>>> highlight >>>> control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE >>>> will >>>> make a big difference. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:41:34 2009 Received: (qmail 24857 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:41:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:41:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B47E1822C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70208E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545C41CD48A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7E01CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7154 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 18:41:26 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 18:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:41:26 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:41:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ec5e194681076813867 Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on your monitor? Chuck Norcutt Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac > and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's > fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably part > of it too. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Chris Barker wrote: >> It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly >> different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with >> exactly the same image. >> >> But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work >> computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a >> cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). >> >> Thanks for letting me know. >> >> Chris >> >> On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Chris Barker wrote: >>>> Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a >>>> few >>>> dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the >>>> contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. >>>> >>>> I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/ >>>>> highlight >>>>> control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE >>>>> will >>>>> make a big difference. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:46:02 2009 Received: (qmail 25539 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:46:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:46:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8120E1822B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731C3E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A55134AC029 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703B934AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2022163bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.86 with SMTP id j22mr1553680faa.47.1254681946225; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B2DC.6080906@gmail.com> <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:45:46 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910041145y14971f45x829af8a1cbcf6bbb@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:46:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ed6972281234514069 Good to come back to this topic ... thanks, Mike. Here we started our DST period, so my understanding is slower than usual :-) After a little of hair-pulling, am I correct in assuming that (at least on paper), Renata 357 are somehow outstanding? Its discharge curve doesn't look like a curve, it looks as flat as our 'Cerro Chato' ;-) [no joke, tr.: Flat Hill ~ W 55=BA 07' 36.48" - S 33=BA 05' 41.28" according to Google Earth. Shame on me, I don't have my own photograph of the place] TIA Fernando. <2009/10/4 Moose : > > For OM use, it's not the capacity, it's the curve. 2009/10/4 Moose : > > For OM use, it's not the capacity, it's the curve. 2009/10/4 Chuck Norcutt : > Yikes! =A0I didn't look at the discharge curve. =A0I thought all silver > oxide were pretty flat but that isn't so. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:48:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25951 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:48:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF33DE181CF for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F12FE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85781CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DAD1CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2306.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 71077700008A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:47:50 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091004184750463.71077700008A@msfrf2306.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4AC8EDF3.701@sfr.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:48:19 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:48:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ede5140271612113968 I love the shots - you handled the slow speed very well there. I know the place, charming even though in the middle of nowhere - part of the charm for me BTW. For anyone interested in seeing more of the place, it is here; off topic equipment in part, sorry. Starts at 943, upwards, and so on http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/?g2_page=4 C&C welcome Phx PS; I confirm about the water not being 100% white, gives a supreme taste to the liquor, and colour as seldom seen elsewhere ;-) Chris Barker wrote: >I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, Moose. > >I agree with you about the software that comes with a Canon. I like >the look of it better than that of Olympus, but it works well also. > >I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of >Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy >affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, >but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination >at pretty low speeds: > >http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > >Any ideas why not, Ian W? > >And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that >shot, if you have the time and inclination ... > >Chris > >For some reason, the Aperture exports don't show the EXIF when you >click on the "i" >On 4 Oct 2009, at 15:25, Moose wrote: > > > >>Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the >>beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the >>case, >>time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with >>the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to >>Steep >>Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice >>images, but they will add something different to some of the previous >>300D images, rather than replacing them. >> >> >>I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at >>least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In >>Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is extensive, >>stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like >>an >>app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 20:49:29 2009 Received: (qmail 23005 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 18:49:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 18:49:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766CAE18039 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E962AE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC73334AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5969F34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2306.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A5707700008A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:49:17 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091004184917677.A5707700008A@msfrf2306.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4AC8EE4C.4080307@sfr.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:49:48 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 20:49:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8ee39168501950411718 Good job, but the feeling is lost Phx Chuck Norcutt wrote: >Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on your >monitor? > >Chuck Norcutt > > >Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > >>I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac >>and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's >>fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably part >>of it too. >> >>Chuck Norcutt >> >> >>Chris Barker wrote: >> >> >>>It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly >>>different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with >>>exactly the same image. >>> >>>But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work >>>computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a >>>cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). >>> >>>Thanks for letting me know. >>> >>>Chris >>> >>>On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >>>> >>>>Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>>Chris Barker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a >>>>>few >>>>>dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the >>>>>contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. >>>>> >>>>>I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... >>>>> >>>>>Chris >>>>>On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/ >>>>>>highlight >>>>>>control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE >>>>>>will >>>>>>make a big difference. >>>>>> >>>>>>Chuck Norcutt >>>>>> >>>>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:02:09 2009 Received: (qmail 17715 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:02:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420EFE18244 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548DDE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BAD1CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32AE1CD48B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.63]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8155 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 19:02:00 -0000 Message-ID: <237417.7913.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ILd.jE8VM1ka16dq6Rhg6T318LSHuIccsrxA1fKk.I_3VLEo6p9SQ8qRrKzDeaF34Fg1vGN2T6sUIsR2k1raChk0GgDc9eevGI5O5IKwQSoPzoyRhdb.7JBxHV8SZYZ3i23PdgCkJ6gY.oQuEf_947jijJ3eLQf68o0bY6uod1Z6iWpFkRN820WISwj7rAWS7hczuE8bIDfkfmH.tKNyCJYKDWAt7PppdUv0PiPU.cikXV7GcWDpa6rqQBbi2fy_ArEDDYRHVEPcPeWTH.0VYVRUEG3iapKIIsQnwmaOYWg2XDL26EEzXXDAWnLkqki0QpwInwaUgPn8OZUyUxFmITcQLvtCtsCeRda3WsPbiBlwkvKH_XfpjoAtUFx1Qa_hE8E- Received: from [71.186.252.97] by web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:01:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:02:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f13153029730998309 The Canyon Rebel line has done pretty well and they are based on Pentamirro= r. The T1i is closest to the d90. The T1i is missing the top lcd and dual c= ontrols. However, has a nice build. The LCD is bright and the body features= face-detection, etc etc. Still Made IN Japan! = > ps:=A0 I'm leaning toward the Nikon D90 with included > 18-105 VR lens for = > $1080 from Cameta.=A0 A little over her budget but > excellent specs for = > longer term ownership and I think a quantum leap over the > D40X for not = > too much more money... pentaprism, dual control wheels, > big, hi-res LCD = > and compatible with almost all Nikon lenses back to the F. > = > Thanks, > Chuck Norcutt > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:16:08 2009 Received: (qmail 22603 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:16:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:16:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D2FE1829E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E718E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0EE1CD48E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8597A1CD48C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28605 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 19:16:01 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:16:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f478236691560218263 Eh? How is it a good job if the feeling is lost? Chuck Norcutt Philippe Amard wrote: > Good job, but the feeling is lost > Phx > > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on your >> monitor? >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >> >>> I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac >>> and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's >>> fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably part >>> of it too. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Chris Barker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly >>>> different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with >>>> exactly the same image. >>>> >>>> But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work >>>> computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a >>>> cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). >>>> >>>> Thanks for letting me know. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:18:07 2009 Received: (qmail 14592 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:18:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:18:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F35FE18244 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8270E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9CE34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D96B34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2450137fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.20.85 with SMTP id e21mr1585125fab.25.1254683879689; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:17:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> References: <4AC4DB4D.3010408@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:17:59 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910041217g39d5a2bfu620823e439ae2c9d@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:18:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f4ef246593900897491 Mike, I like this one better than the one you did of that tiny green frog !. You may use it to announce a yet to come nnn version of 'Alien' series .. ;-) Fernando ------ though I think it may benefit from some moosifying (sp. ?) :-) 2009/10/1 Mike Lazzari : > In fact I've just been playing around with the 80 > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:20:46 2009 Received: (qmail 26557 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:20:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:20:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3846E18245 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43741E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D32734AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF6834AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n94JKenV007303 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:20:40 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d28.53f2baae (33856) for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:20:36 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:20:36 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:20:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f58e26789730998309 I've bought from cheapbatteries.com in the past and have been satisfied with the product and service. 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:26:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f700190025368819438 I don't understand "The Canyon Rebel line has done pretty well..." The T1i has 95% coverage and 0.87X magnification or less than the E-620 at 0.96X magnification. Is your response an answer to my question about relative viewfinder brightness and magnification or a statement about Canon's market share? Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > The Canyon Rebel line has done pretty well and they are based on > Pentamirror. The T1i is closest to the d90. The T1i is missing the > top lcd and dual controls. However, has a nice build. The LCD is > bright and the body features face-detection, etc etc. Still Made IN > Japan! > > >> ps: I'm leaning toward the Nikon D90 with included 18-105 VR lens >> for $1080 from Cameta. A little over her budget but excellent >> specs for longer term ownership and I think a quantum leap over the >> D40X for not too much more money... pentaprism, dual control >> wheels, big, hi-res LCD and compatible with almost all Nikon lenses >> back to the F. >> >> Thanks, Chuck Norcutt -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:29:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30370 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:29:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D950E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D26E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2036A1CD48A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622EF1CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2326.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27B697000092 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:29:39 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091004192940162.27B697000092@msfrf2326.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4AC8F7CB.2050406@sfr.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:30:19 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EE4C.4080307@sfr.fr> <4AC8F470.2000804@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8F470.2000804@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood- good job and feeling X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:29:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8f7ab51044877110844 I mean the technical side is finer - yet the atmosphere is lost, for me at least i.e. technies vs artists? DK That's back to Zuikoholoics vs Leicaists as was put in another thread ??? phx Chuck Norcutt wrote: >Eh? How is it a good job if the feeling is lost? > >Chuck Norcutt > > >Philippe Amard wrote: > > >>Good job, but the feeling is lost >>Phx >> >> >>Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >> >> >>>Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on your >>>monitor? >>> >>>Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>>Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac >>>>and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's >>>>fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably part >>>>of it too. >>>> >>>>Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>>Chris Barker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is greatly >>>>>different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with >>>>>exactly the same image. >>>>> >>>>>But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work >>>>>computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a >>>>>cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for letting me know. >>>>> >>>>>Chris >>>>> >>>>>On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >>>>>> >>>>>>Chuck Norcutt >>>>>> >>>>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 21:42:58 2009 Received: (qmail 5223 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 19:42:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 19:42:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441CFE18279 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CE0E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF334AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58A234AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 40608 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 19:42:53 -0000 Message-ID: <408250.40143.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _lzqRtsVM1nyH21Jnk3s7HWKJi6Q2XBqlGPMrtTium_WjU_mhBbPA4kSR690Q_MUZWBM6K3JoPl4ktiUvCnxYxFfUzOoB.eQtiVqMkYU_03KADyFbnt.sW5wWSCFgaXLnbmFdwyr7O4GAwtBdNUqmYHvvFFCg4b.LK99yuITqpGGQ7jsFGhupA2VCYEAwxy_EfqnHJtJa4s17H16vlIP8DwjANyRkQ6lP79GWbolIo1AhibRyV85mrrwRFywwSzf.7QpeV1bx7PawmfmclbiubkAz08h6fBGUK9e_BNpBkLNyc_e8yU_82b7FT0NcxrmCRaLI_fmogImfDTZrow0meINIWaU0g.Vcg-- Received: from [71.186.252.97] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:42:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC8F6F8.8040400@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 21:42:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac8fac2166872439112457 Nothing about Canon's market share. I meant to say despite being based on p= entamirror, the Rebel line remains popular even among enthusiasts. The T1i'= s viewfinder I find is nice and bright. = > line has done pretty well..." > The T1i has 95% coverage and 0.87X magnification or less > than the E-620 = > at 0.96X magnification.=A0 Is your response an answer to > my question about = > relative viewfinder brightness and magnification or a > statement about = > Canon's market share? = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:11:45 2009 Received: (qmail 26475 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:11:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:11:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139ACE1822E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0827E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDA34AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CB234AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 20 days 15:17:48 ago / 195.8.64.6 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:60319 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MuXQd-00027B-Ho (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:11:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:11:34 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:11:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac901817991234514069 I hope that the discrepancy between what I see and what Windows users see will be diminished now that I have recalibrated my iMac and set the gamma to 2.2. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 4, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I view with a profiled CRT on Winders. But I think you're using a Mac > and Nathan's Mac stuff always looks dark to me. Right now there's > fairly bright sun outside sneaking in the window so that's probably > part > of it too. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Chris Barker wrote: >> It might be, but it's difficult to tell if, a) your monitor is >> greatly >> different to mine or if, b) your opinion is different when faced with >> exactly the same image. >> >> But that is after all why I asked. I see some of my shots on my work >> computer and they look awful; but that's probably a combination of a >> cheap LCD monitor and poor browser (IEv6). >> >> Thanks for letting me know. >> >> Chris >> >> On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> Contrast was very high in my view. Shadows were very dark. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Chris Barker wrote: >>>> Thanks, Chuck, I've had a look and the blown highlights are only a >>>> few >>>> dots; the shadows are not blocked. I suppose that means that the >>>> contrast is a bit high where you are viewing it. >>>> >>>> I have increased the mid contrast ever so slightly, though ... >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 4 Oct 2009, at 17:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not Moose by any means but a trip through the PS shadow/ >>>>> highlight >>>>> control (lighten shadows, darken highlights) followed by some LCE >>>>> will >>>>> make a big difference. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Norcutt >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:30:24 2009 Received: (qmail 18257 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:30:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED9FE1822E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6B2E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4291CD48E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51D71CD48C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-127-100-218.aubnin.fios.verizon.net ([71.127.100.218]:64030 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MuXii-0007na-1U for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:30:17 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:30:27 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] 357 batteries Thread-Index: AcpFMYH8wGFUN7EkEd6F3AAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:30:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac905e0151671234514069 I bought a 3-pack of Energizer 357 batteries at Walmart recently, and I picked up the pack to look at it today after seeing this thread. In the past I have bought these, and the package and the batteries themselves said 357/303, which is the inferior battery. I get them because no one around here seems to sell the better versions. Anyway, my latest pack just says 357, and the batteries themselves just say 357. No 303 anywhere. I wonder what these are? -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-424-0897 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 10/4/09 3:20 PM, "NSURIT@aol.com" wrote: > I've bought from cheapbatteries.com in the past and have been satisfied > with the product and service. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:43:34 2009 Received: (qmail 28913 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:43:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8288E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C192CE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF12434AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6868734AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091004204328709.BGCI22985@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:43:28 +0000 Message-Id: <290FA08B-8F31-45BB-A1E1-E9773C64F408@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:43:28 -0400 References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:43:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac908f6305071612113968 Wouldn't think she could go wrong with that. As you said, she already knows Nykon. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 4, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > ps: I'm leaning toward the Nikon D90 with included 18-105 VR lens for > $1080 from Cameta. A little over her budget but excellent specs for > longer term ownership and I think a quantum leap over the D40X for not > too much more money... pentaprism, dual control wheels, big, hi-res > LCD > and compatible with almost all Nikon lenses back to the F. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:46:27 2009 Received: (qmail 806 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:46:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B09E18245 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE16E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F541CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDA01CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091004204617235.MSBD18886@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:46:17 +0000 Message-Id: <06619C7C-34E9-46BF-B0DA-E17E4F339720@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:46:16 -0400 References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:46:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac909a358361076813867 I'm partial to the one where the water shoots under the bridge. I think there's a lot of potential there. Folks who cream the water almost always are shooting upstream. Shooting downstream has its own charm. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Oct 4, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, > Moose. > > I agree with you about the software that comes with a Canon. I like > the look of it better than that of Olympus, but it works well also. > > I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of > Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy > affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, > but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination > at pretty low speeds: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > > Any ideas why not, Ian W? > > And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that > shot, if you have the time and inclination ... > > Chris > > For some reason, the Aperture exports don't show the EXIF when you > click on the "i" > On 4 Oct 2009, at 15:25, Moose wrote: > >> >> Yes. And yet ... The 300D has worked very well with ACR from the >> beginning. I have many favorite images from it. As is so often the >> case, >> time, place, subject and light are unique and I can't "top" them with >> the 5D later, even in the same place. For example, we returned to >> Steep >> Falls this trip. The flow and light were different. I got some nice >> images, but they will add something different to some of the previous >> 300D images, rather than replacing them. >> >> >> I've never much liked Canon's RAW converter, DPP, but that may be at >> least in part because I have hardly used it, so don't know it. In >> Canon's favor, the software that comes with their camera is >> extensive, >> stable, well written in the technical sense, and includs things like >> an >> app for tethered operation and endless upgrades are free. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:50:29 2009 Received: (qmail 20267 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:50:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E231E181A8 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B0E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2222D34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901E034AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187E6461514 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:16:46 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:50:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <246DACFD-6BF6-47FB-8125-5C8DEC73BB9C@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:50:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac90a95151671234514069 Thanks, Chuck, but no. It looks very fine on my monitor. I reckon that we merely have different tastes, but I shall look again at the way I treat my images. Mind you, I promised Moose that a month or 2 ago ... :-) Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 19:41, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on > your > monitor? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 22:58:58 2009 Received: (qmail 4580 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 20:58:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 20:58:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B98CE181A8 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080B8E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF55D1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567811CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BA546158A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:25:16 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:58:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC8EDF3.701@sfr.fr> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8EDF3.701@sfr.fr> Message-Id: <8627F157-32E2-4AB6-B255-C4B386FCEF37@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 22:58:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac90c9278115683411216 Thanks Philippe. Your images do look familiar! :-) You cropped the bridge rather nicely against the patches of blue sky and I like the angles of some of your shots of Killin. My uncle was an engineer for Scottish Hydro and he used to visit Killin rather frequently. We bicycled up the Lochay valley and found a hydroelectric installation that he would have worked on, given the architecture. I should like to visit the place again ... Crhis On 4 Oct 2009, at 19:48, Philippe Amard wrote: > I love the shots - you handled the slow speed very well there. > I know the place, charming even though in the middle of nowhere - part > of the charm for me BTW. > For anyone interested in seeing more of the place, it is here; off > topic > equipment in part, sorry. > > Starts at 943, upwards, and so on > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/?g2_page=4 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:02:37 2009 Received: (qmail 20385 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:02:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:02:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B592E1824E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6025EE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5434AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D337534AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:02:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7773646158A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:28:55 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:02:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:02:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac90d6d232527801554290 Thanks again, Chuck. I have flipped between my image and your reworking and I think mine shows off the creamy, peaty water better. It's also more likely to be what I saw at the time, given the latish hour and low sun with patchy cloud. I seem to prefer the darker images generally, when I am shooting, at least. Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 19:41, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on > your > monitor? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:09:13 2009 Received: (qmail 24347 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:09:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:09:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03010E181BA for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD0CE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAD31CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADDE1CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2495428fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.133 with SMTP id t5mr416841hbt.91.1254690545137; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:09:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Lens adapters, was: New affordable Sony FF X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:09:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac90ef9225139752976205 Hi Tim, Andrew, and all, From: Tim Hughes >Sounds like maybe the "Bowen" adapter has to have a weak glass element, because >either the mounting lugs on the flange interfere and/or because the throat >diameters are similar and so are incompatible. Most likely. >Adding the lens allows the flanges/throats to be separated. Yes... and adds two side effects: -Decreases picture quality :-( -Acts as a mild teleconverter >I could not find any bowers alpha-OM adapters listed on ebay, although there are >lots of adapters for other vendor's lenses to alpha. I don't there are so many... M42 thread (1mm longer register _and_ relatively shallow, so free from the hassle of bayonet lugs) and the older Minolta MD mount... but the latter needs a correction lens :-( >This means you could kludge an adapter using a weak lens adapter and machining >it down and attaching an OM flange if the bowen adapter is unavailable. > >The pros of doing that would be a 25Mpixel OM lens compatible, FF camera *with IS >*! Yes, but the real point (to me) of having a FF digital body _with adapters_ is to use the full angle of view from the manual wide-angle lenses -- and there are very good ones on the OM system. But if the adapter is also a teleconverter... there's no point! It would be much better to use a cropped sensor without any glass on it. >I did some more searching and found "Domestic_platapus" on ebay, seems to have >sold an adapter for 7000/9000-O/M not too long back. But surely with a correcting lens -- no good :-( >and it might still not accommodate the wide angle OM's with the protruding lens >guard at rear. Yes. >Using OM lenses on Leica/Minolta CL rangefinder cameras. >http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76055 Interesting link! Thanks a lot! On 30/09/2009, at 10:03 AM, usher99@aol.com wrote: > Something seems askew with the adapter businness. The registration > distance for OM is 46mm and the Sony/Minolta AF is 44.5 leaving only > 1.5mm. As mentioned the bayonet release takes up a bunch of space. From: Andrew Fildes >That's enough. The difference between Leica screw mount and Leica M >mount is just 1mm - and deliberately so. That's how they designed it >when they changed over in 1954! That's why the M bayonet adapters are >skinny rings. Yeah, but the M mount was designed specifically to be adaptable for the older Leica Thread Mount lenses -- the investment should keep protected! A 39mm screw mount is easy to adapt because it's narrower than the M bayonet _and_ has no bayonet lugs etc. A similar case is the Pentax K-mount, designed to be compatible with the 42mm thread mount -- EXACTLY with the same register (45.46mm). AFAIK, the K-mount is a bit wider than the OM, so there's no problem to place the K-M42 adapter _inside_ the K bayonet, using its flange for the adapted lens. Usually supplied with a tool for removal. From: Tim Hughes >As discussed before , it may depend more on whether the bayonet outer diameter >on the OM flange interferes with the throat diameter of the alpha body. The flange >websites never give the throat diameter needed to know the fit! The outer diameter >of the OM bayonet is 47mm. So the inner diameter of the alpha has to be say ~ >49mm, not to interfere and to provide space for an OM bayonet I don't know the exact dimensions, but measuring on a web picture of the A350 (130.8 mm width) it looks like having an _outer_ diameter of ~51mm. But this mount has a lot of protruding, rotating things inside, so the clear _inner_ diameter seems not much more than ~42mm... Sad news, I'm afraid. >Looking at this website : >http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=17019 >but it seems there is not quite enough space to make an actual locking OM bayonet >mount inside. The same website has some Nikon-to-Alpha adapters -- all with glass. And the F-mount has 0.5 mm _more_ register and about 45mm outer diameter, thus "easier" than the OM bayonet, but no way... >We need somebody with access to an alpha to measure the throat diameter to >confirm this guestimate, but it does not look too promising I have scheduled on Tuesday a visit to a friend who does have an Alpha camera! I'll check it out, but I don't think will make things easier, anyway. >Here is website which shows how to remove the normal flange (in their case a >minolta old lens) and just uses the M42 to alpha adapter with a spacer. >This would be difficult with OM as the stop down mechanism of lens would be >removed along with the old OM flange, apart from being sacriligious! > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/arkku/1266937278/in/set-72157600018767343/ A word of caution about flange distance... some cheap adapters do focus a bit _beyond_ infinity, because they're thinner than expected. Although this doesn't seem a big issue at first glance (the opposite would!), there is a real danger: lenses with correction mechanisms at close range. Since the distance set on the focusing ring no longer matches the actual distance to the subject, the optics are no longer optimized and performance _will_ suffer. Been there, done that. Interesting link, though. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:10:13 2009 Received: (qmail 26059 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:10:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:10:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BCEE182A1 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F8DE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A9B1CD48C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A0F1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674264615F3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:35:58 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <06619C7C-34E9-46BF-B0DA-E17E4F339720@roadrunner.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:09:33 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <06619C7C-34E9-46BF-B0DA-E17E4F339720@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:10:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac90f35312641413256596 Thanks, Bob. But I fancy that Philippe has managed a better shot in his group. Mine included a wire hanging down (part of the system to light the burial ground on an island halfway along the bridge, where members of the original ruling clan were buried. Philippe's has managed to exclude the wire: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/2008+Ecosse-1050972_001.jpg.html ... although it is possible that it wasn't there then. This is the burial ground, as captured by Philippe: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/2008+Ecosse-1050963.jpg.html It was pi**ing with rain for much of our visit, and I didn't venture out to take this shot. Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 21:46, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I'm partial to the one where the water shoots under the bridge. I > think there's a lot of potential there. Folks who cream the water > almost always are shooting upstream. Shooting downstream has its own > charm. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:18:41 2009 Received: (qmail 16089 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC94E18247 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934A8E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7836E34AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D974234AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2913 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 21:18:33 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Oct 2009 21:18:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC91128.5090506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:18:32 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC8C713.6010004@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8DA79.2090900@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8E725.9000506@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8EC56.5010901@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:18:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac91131197776789618724 I certainly can't argue with what fits what you saw. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks again, Chuck. I have flipped between my image and your > reworking and I think mine shows off the creamy, peaty water better. > It's also more likely to be what I saw at the time, given the latish > hour and low sun with patchy cloud. > > I seem to prefer the darker images generally, when I am shooting, at > least. > > Chris > > On 4 Oct 2009, at 19:41, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Here's my rework of your falls shot. Maybe it looks too bright on >> your >> monitor? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:20:10 2009 Received: (qmail 30603 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:20:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE71E181D8 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D454BE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AA334AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6309F34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3794 invoked by uid 504); 4 Oct 2009 21:20:03 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:20:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9118a54051234514069 Thanks. I'll keep that in mind then. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > Nothing about Canon's market share. I meant to say despite being > based on pentamirror, the Rebel line remains popular even among > enthusiasts. The T1i's viewfinder I find is nice and bright. > > >> line has done pretty well..." The T1i has 95% coverage and 0.87X >> magnification or less than the E-620 at 0.96X magnification. Is >> your response an answer to my question about relative viewfinder >> brightness and magnification or a statement about Canon's market >> share? > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:35:30 2009 Received: (qmail 16067 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:35:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F7E182A0 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707F8E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB2834AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656C34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091004213523.VLEO11342.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:35:23 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id olbM1c00Q4Z9Gks02lbNy6; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:35:22 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ybss8LRuAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=A1OALjvYbktmZCoeuugA:9 a=59DoKzGVoDIzaffr6PoA:7 a=d0xWFWOpDbIKH2eooBbkjnim3_kA:4 a=3zq07fkmrvEA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4339EC5DAA0D4B4B8566873F4AB48185@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:35:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:35:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac91522131491234514069 The D90 would be a good choice, but for me an M9 would be better. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus mail list" Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism >A friend recently asked me to recommend a new camera for her for under > $1000 with a kit lens. It's to replace her Nikon D40X with 18-55 kit > lens which she sold off to her brother. She wants to upgrade... to > something. The only stated requirements were better than the D40X > (which she loved) and under $1000. > > My first thought is to stay with Nikon since she's already familiar with > the brand and likes it. But trying to figure out what to buy hasn't > been so easy. There are any number of low cost bodies and kit > configurations from all manufacturers but I noticed a decided price > break at the $800-900 mark for body alone. That's where pentamirror > viewfinders get replaced by pentaprisms. Unsurprisingly (in most cases > at least), viewfinder magnification suddenly increases from the 0.8X > range to 0.95X or better range. Everyone here who has a DSLR of any > type has probably bemoaned the loss of viewfinder brightness and > magnification relative to the champion OM-1. Since good viewfinder > performance is critical to overall camera performance I decided to see > if I could meet her total price requirements while also getting a body > with a prism. > > But first there is an anomaly to be addressed. I said the pentamirrors > tend to be down around 0.8X magnification with prisms being much higher. > The anomaly was seen in comparing the E-620 (pentamirror) with the > E-30 (pentaprism). The E-30 sports a 98% field of view at 1.02X > magnification. But the E-620 isn't too far behind at 95% field of view > and 0.96X magnification. In fact, even the E-510 isn't bad at 95% and > 0.92X. But the recently announced Nikon D5000 (pentamirror) has 95% > field of view but only 0.78X magnification. Her D40X was similar at 95% > and 0.8X. > > Since I now live in the hinterlands with no camera store within less > than a 75-100 mile drive I don't get a chance to see or handle any of > these things. My question is have any of you ever directly compared the > viewfinder of the E-620 and E-30. Do these specifications have any > practical meaning? Is the E-620 viewfinder anywhere near as good as the > E-30 as the numbers seem to indicate? Can a pentamirror really compete > with a pentaprism? > > ps: I'm leaning toward the Nikon D90 with included 18-105 VR lens for > $1080 from Cameta. A little over her budget but excellent specs for > longer term ownership and I think a quantum leap over the D40X for not > too much more money... pentaprism, dual control wheels, big, hi-res LCD > and compatible with almost all Nikon lenses back to the F. > > Thanks, > Chuck Norcutt > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2412 - Release Date: 10/03/09 18:34:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 4 23:37:03 2009 Received: (qmail 6174 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 21:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 21:37:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4DCE18244 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A04E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1B41CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7801CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091004213657.VMNF11342.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:36:57 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id olcw1c00B4Z9Gks02lcwbf; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:36:56 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=-Xt9KhXhjp0NdaglrwgA:9 a=ZoC2jLqgrjJlccpEpxIA:7 a=KHVjkUkS1HiqG8msMMI2Ctr3aPgA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <5E8F4D76A40249E3AD99DB91A1A1866A@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <408250.40143.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:36:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 4 23:37:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9157f280961413256596 I don't think that Canon's market share is indicitave of their quality. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "AS" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism Nothing about Canon's market share. I meant to say despite being based on pentamirror, the Rebel line remains popular even among enthusiasts. The T1i's viewfinder I find is nice and bright. > line has done pretty well..." > The T1i has 95% coverage and 0.87X magnification or less > than the E-620 > at 0.96X magnification. Is your response an answer to > my question about > relative viewfinder brightness and magnification or a > statement about > Canon's market share? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2413 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 00:11:53 2009 Received: (qmail 23680 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 22:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 22:11:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A63E182A3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E14E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E705B1CD48C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7011D1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n94MBjem032759 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:11:45 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.cd2.5d0b0a56 (45276) for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.104]) by cia-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC036-b2d24ac91d98297; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:11:40 -0400 Received: from webmail-m043 (webmail-m043.sim.aol.com [64.12.101.226]) by smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYME031-b2d24ac91d98297; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:11:36 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:11:36 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.216 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.226) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:11:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC1356C6559F8A-3AC8-47B64@webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 00:11:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac91da9296229730998309 These are the proper high drain jobbies AFAIK. I've ordered from them several times with no issues. Not the cheapest, however. I am not sure Tim has had a chance to confirm the discharge curve is optimal, but they seem to work fine. Mike http://shopping.microbattery.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4855/.f -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 00:18:54 2009 Received: (qmail 6666 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 22:18:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 22:18:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C264E182AB for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7FEE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8B934AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657ED34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so2782083yxe.22 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:18:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.88.12 with SMTP id q12mr4612330anl.117.1254694727892; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:18:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 00:18:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac91f4e130302517112723 http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ian.a.nichols/NorthWeald0909# Some old aeroplanes. Seemed appropriate to use an old-fashioned film camera and some slow b/w film. OM-4, 35/2, 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. Scanned with a Nikon LS20, which is clearly having trouble with the high contrast negatives. Had to fire-up a 15-year-old computer to use the 11-year-old scanner to get these pics of 50-70 year-old aircraft taken with a 20-year-old camera into the digital domain. I might be getting old. -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 01:22:39 2009 Received: (qmail 20626 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 23:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 23:22:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899EE18214 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9ABE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDC11CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6361CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2121952bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:22:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.86 with SMTP id j22mr1586071faa.47.1254698553000; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:22:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:22:32 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910041622w4dac551ekf48187c457307773@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Diopter lenses, was: once again, digital vs film X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 01:22:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac92e3f134244877110844 What an unusual thing, we both disagreeing ;^) I love the OM eyecup, the Eyecup 1, not the 2. I have three of them, just in case - during summer 2007 I almost lost one !!. Last Thursday I was taking the same picture with the plain 4 and the OM 1n, with my -5 diopter lens into the eyecup 1. Fine tuning the plain 4 diopter correcting knob made such a difference, that I'll have to check if I've not 'upgraded' to -5.5 ;^) Fernando. 2009/10/4 Carlos J. Santisteban : > I also hate OM eyecups! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 01:37:48 2009 Received: (qmail 4776 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 23:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 23:37:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0844BE181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8A7E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110E31CD48E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F461CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2126791bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.18.145 with SMTP id w17mr1174158faa.66.1254699461054; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC8B58D.8000907@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9802903.4471254665906717.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4AC8B58D.8000907@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:37:41 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910041637k43ac762bp576c2beee0bd3145@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Diopter lenses, was: once again, digital vs film X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 01:37:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac931cc252296107113666 No wonder I see nothing into the vf w/o a diopter correction lens of at least -5. At two meters I can hardly recognize my daughter's face :^) - and I do at 1 meter distance, of course. This (myopia and hyper-myopia - not presbyopia, and 'cataratas' [translation needed]), along a couple of other specific pro work, are the only real reasons, IMHO, for auto-focus: sports, and fashion models walking while wearing summer lightweight dresses. Fernando 2009/10/4 Chuck Norcutt : > For years I have thought the apparent > distance of the screen was about 1 meter (as most SLRs?) but this page > says 2 meters and is backed up by this page (about 1/2 way down) > > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 02:18:55 2009 Received: (qmail 2226 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 00:18:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 00:18:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB16E1829F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75529E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6803E1CD48E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:18:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43191CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2139003bwz.14 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:18:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.197 with SMTP id l5mr500115hbe.82.1254701928220; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:18:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:18:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 87e273fcc57f5bc8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 02:18:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac93b6f50696107113666 I'd seriously look at the Panasonic G1 or GH1. Live -View that is miles ahead of anything else and the viewfinder image is HUGE. As BP says, M9... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 02:25:50 2009 Received: (qmail 7701 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 00:25:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 00:25:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2D9E18279 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA3E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C881CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:25:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21F1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n950PZlH009097 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:25:35 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.bc3.5618d05f (41812) for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:25:33 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:25:33 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Ranata Batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 02:25:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac93d0e105752439112457 _http://swatchbattery.com/_ (http://swatchbattery.com/) Orders over $20, ship free. 20 batteries cost a little over $ 20 with free shipping. Google, Ranata and you will find other sources. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 02:39:20 2009 Received: (qmail 23306 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 00:39:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 00:39:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3600FE181D8 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB06E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8008434AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:39:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B649134AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n950d98Q011847; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:39:12 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:40:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 02:39:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9403863911946193717 The hummingbird residents that stayed around all Summer are gone, but the migrating transients are showing up for a pit stop on their way South. This tired and hungry female spent the day around this feeder, and even allowed another to share it at times, but not for long. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Tired+_amp_+Hungry.jpg.html Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 02:45:38 2009 Received: (qmail 23228 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 00:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 00:45:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90FEE18279 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5C9E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F01134AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DE734AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2572340fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.137 with SMTP id 9mr161042far.95.1254703528809; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:45:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:45:28 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910041745r32e944f4j2662e90002823c3d@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Ranata Batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 02:45:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac941b2277091234514069 20 Renata =3D u$d 50 here. u$d 2.5 each I can choose their date of manufacture, and s&h is u$d 1.6 since they sell them only at one store, downtown. Fernando. 2009/10/4 : > _http://swatchbattery.com/_ (http://swatchbattery.com/) > > Orders over $20, ship free. =A020 batteries cost a little over $ 20 with > free shipping. =A0Google, Ranata and you will find other sources. =A0Bill= =A0Barber -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 02:59:02 2009 Received: (qmail 12564 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 00:59:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 00:59:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A1DE18256 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DC9E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAA91CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59001CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:58:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f198.google.com (mail-yw0-f198.google.com [209.85.211.198]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh36 with SMTP id 36so2646368ywh.15 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:58:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.25.13 with SMTP id c13mr8861239ybj.44.1254704335029; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:58:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 02:59:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac944d6274256789618724 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. =A0The Falls of > Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy > affair. =A0I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, > but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination > at pretty low speeds: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=3Dblack I like the first of those especially, Chris. Also the mono of Ullapool looks very nice indeed. Clouds across the water -- another gem. Thanks for sharing. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 03:17:02 2009 Received: (qmail 5687 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 01:17:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 01:17:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0CE1824D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB8E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CEE1CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915601CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so2868230yxe.22 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.243.21 with SMTP id q21mr8852717ybh.215.1254705414768; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910041816w5f0b5ee8v312922f603e5f532@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 03:17:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9490e105355034211378 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Since I now live in the hinterlands with no camera store within less > than a 75-100 mile drive I don't get a chance to see or handle any of > these things. =A0My question is have any of you ever directly compared the > viewfinder of the E-620 and E-30. =A0Do these specifications have any > practical meaning? =A0Is the E-620 viewfinder anywhere near as good as the > E-30 as the numbers seem to indicate? =A0Can a pentamirror really compete > with a pentaprism? You know, I was shooting yesterday with the E-3, which I think beats the E-30 in these respects. Then today I was out all day shooting with OM-4 and used the E-410 for digital backup (though I shot a lot more with the backup than the OM-4). I don't fall down on the ground gasping for air when I move from OM-4 to E-410. If I compare the E-410 with the E-30, it is obvious to me that the VF is larger on the E-3, but it's no big deal. All three cameras are different but very enjoyable to use. The E-410 actually has quite a bit of contrast and color separation -- far greater than the OM-4. Perhaps some sort of smoke and mirrors or coatings on the internals. I suspect you might be trying to fix something that ain't broke as far as your friend is concerned. I suspect your first instinct to upgrade her to a newer N is the way to go. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 03:18:29 2009 Received: (qmail 12844 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 01:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 01:18:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6A7E1824C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D04AE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCFD1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73DF1CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21411 invoked by uid 502); 5 Oct 2009 01:18:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.95.101.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 01:18:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC9495C.3040403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:18:20 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B2DC.6080906@gmail.com> <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 03:18:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac94965232121076813867 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yikes! I didn't look at the discharge curve. I thought all silver > oxide were pretty flat but that isn't so. The Eveready/Energizer EPX76 had a curve like that. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 03:19:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11137 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 01:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 01:19:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B36E18236 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1D6E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327D034AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3F334AC027 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23087 invoked by uid 502); 5 Oct 2009 01:19:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.95.101.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 01:19:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC949B8.6040106@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:19:52 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B2DC.6080906@gmail.com> <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> <6f8422750910041145y14971f45x829af8a1cbcf6bbb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910041145y14971f45x829af8a1cbcf6bbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 03:19:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac949be24995683411216 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ... After a little of hair-pulling, am I correct in assuming that (at least on paper), Renata 357 are somehow outstanding? > > > Yup, terrific. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 03:42:07 2009 Received: (qmail 13219 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 01:42:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 01:42:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916BDE182A2 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDB4E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA421CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89921CD486 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 03:42:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac94eef271909730998309 For Jez: http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/ You can view the full length series online. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 04:15:50 2009 Received: (qmail 18667 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 02:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 02:15:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35531E18214 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07CEE24A98 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 04:15:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac956d6236004877110844 Well, it's now official. At 4:00 PM the last patron checked out the last book. I, along with the newspaper reporter, photographed it for posterity. Over the next week or so, I'll be doing additional photographs--including some special lighting, but for the post part we're wrapped up. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 04:24:01 2009 Received: (qmail 26138 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 02:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 02:24:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B73E18228 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46018E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A661CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:23:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558991CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091005022354.DCRB11342.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:23:54 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id oqPu1c00A4Z9Gks02qPuyV; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:23:54 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xjW31z2RAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=d3nFPwjRlN7_z2vr8tYA:9 a=arYLxrmUQVsQrkQUNb0A:7 a=UHmlsO_OmP_kxeM4d0cepQwPCboA:4 a=IKds56vswl8A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <3FCDF07D49A545DF8A1DF97907B746D8@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:23:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 04:24:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac958c1233571234514069 But what happens to the old building with the interestinfg floors? Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [OM] This is it > Well, it's now official. At 4:00 PM the last patron checked out the last > book. I, along with the newspaper reporter, photographed it for posterity. > Over the next week or so, I'll be doing additional photographs--including > some special lighting, but for the post part we're wrapped up. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2413 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 04:27:47 2009 Received: (qmail 5365 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 02:27:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 02:27:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1985EE18255 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340BBE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F9F1CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754BE1CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2608986fxm.37 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.155 with SMTP id g27mr510154hba.62.1254709660195; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3FCDF07D49A545DF8A1DF97907B746D8@SueHome> References: <3FCDF07D49A545DF8A1DF97907B746D8@SueHome> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:27:40 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf893e334063468a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This is it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 04:27:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac959a3235044877110844 > > But what happens to the old building with the interestinfg floors? > I think that the historical society is moving in. I don't know anything more than that. I know that the glass floors are unknown if they will survive the next tenants. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 05:08:53 2009 Received: (qmail 9729 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 03:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 03:08:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D92E18256 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA42E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA781CD48E for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692931CD489 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n9538fpM029067 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:08:44 GMT Message-ID: <151FFDC0991F4E2DBAC675D78634520C@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:10:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 05:08:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9634599536789618724 Hi Ian, Nice collection. I made a trip to Washington, D.C. in a C-54 like that, in the early 1960s. Flying at 5000 to 7000 feet, you saw a lot more of the countryside than in modern transports. Thanks for sharing. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ian.a.nichols/NorthWeald0909# > > Some old aeroplanes. Seemed appropriate to use an old-fashioned film > camera and some slow b/w film. OM-4, 35/2, 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. > Scanned with a Nikon LS20, which is clearly having trouble with the > high contrast negatives. Had to fire-up a 15-year-old computer to use > the 11-year-old scanner to get these pics of 50-70 year-old aircraft > taken with a 20-year-old camera into the digital domain. I might be > getting old. > > -- > Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience > prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* > naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is > no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. > > -Daria Morgendorffer > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 05:50:50 2009 Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 03:50:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 03:50:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7BEE18247 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F10E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53E81CD48D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8561CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.150]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 34539 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Oct 2009 03:50:44 -0000 Message-ID: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y3CzNT8VM1k42RSKAccXnDAR6JGP9RFx4IQGfoHrxBYsxLG1tlVRw7V_VF1GIbzdxIATu0bZ_KiGJqJJrr9Z_qCJ1vDGguMV15NAlZkGt7GK3NYI6PTkdgEDoUZVWQOZS0kYJzwnzbvB3CiplLPrX9hhgo_CT7v7GtA50nN3.fo9_jrpc0FxcrQ3zmx2HAhVCg1muVi5jKBratsPWlR0db8U3jF5bldFPeQ41dI3I5arTNaKXKZTLKrIG7TL7gYUlJSWU2SyFzKQI_Oh4S.J_xrumD_Ca6cXJ5QDXq.UGtEjyxEmBC7NtKpfFgxOh05xQEWLMb9XfWT4Y.ylAhtkJVLj6WTNV2Dgrvn9O8QGl1nMxylF9uK1UwrPOLQrgPLkrqztbgizYJ2xIWLQpALu4ts- Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:50:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 05:50:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac96d1a313261234514069 My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. =A0 I am looking for recommendations for printer replacement. =A0 I do not intend to spend more than $150 this time.=A0 If it prints larger t= han eight and a half=A0 by eleven is a bonus, but not a requirement. =A0 So, which printer in this range would gimme the best photo quality? =A0 Many thanks in advance of course. =A0 Boris = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 06:38:48 2009 Received: (qmail 18724 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 04:38:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 04:38:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9A3E181CC for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79BAE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9288F34AC026 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BDC34AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n954cZpj013995 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:38:35 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c5c.5c91a161 (29673) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:38:30 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:38:30 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 06:38:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac97858281011258626592 A used Epson 1280 that some wants to send to a new home, but not mine. Bill Barber In a message dated 10/4/2009 10:50:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, alienspecimen@yahoo.com writes: So, which printer in this range would gimme the best photo quality? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 07:16:03 2009 Received: (qmail 16543 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 05:16:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 05:16:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067ABE18277 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54AFE24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE4634AC025 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A6A34AC024 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66B2C97A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:46:41 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:15:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <81FE9DCA-7C6C-4EB4-AE34-E3F3EA60EB56@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 07:16:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac98113133896107113666 Thanks, Joel. It was sometimes difficult to do justice to the loveliness of the place. Even one day of Storm Force 10 winds (Stornoway, on the Isle of Lewis had gusts of up to 63 knots) didn't spoil the holiday; although it did make it difficult to take photos ... Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 01:58, Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > > I like the first of those especially, Chris. Also the mono of > Ullapool looks very nice indeed. Clouds across the water -- another > gem. > > Thanks for sharing. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 07:34:28 2009 Received: (qmail 22404 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 05:34:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 05:34:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F436E1829F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15895E24A98 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F101CD486 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785A81CD485 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2585C97A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:05:07 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:34:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: Message-Id: <91390BB1-1E96-4431-ABB2-FCD3BA48D8CB@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 07:34:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9856474151946193717 Thanks, Ian, those shots look great. I do like the tones you've achieved. I trained on the Jet Provost (mks 3 and 5), and on the successor the the Gnat, the Hawk. I wish that I had had a trip in a Gnat ... Chris On 4 Oct 2009, at 23:18, Ian Nichols wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ian.a.nichols/NorthWeald0909# > > Some old aeroplanes. Seemed appropriate to use an old-fashioned film > camera and some slow b/w film. OM-4, 35/2, 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. > Scanned with a Nikon LS20, which is clearly having trouble with the > high contrast negatives. Had to fire-up a 15-year-old computer to use > the 11-year-old scanner to get these pics of 50-70 year-old aircraft > taken with a 20-year-old camera into the digital domain. I might be > getting old. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 09:03:12 2009 Received: (qmail 2220 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 07:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 07:03:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC097E181AE for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F54E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A551CD48D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:03:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A231CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:03:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11842 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2009 07:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 07:02:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:03:00 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 09:03:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac99a30293795683411216 And the shutter lag... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/10/2009, at 11:18 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I'd seriously look at the Panasonic G1 or GH1. Live -View that is > miles > ahead of anything else and the viewfinder image is HUGE. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 09:06:14 2009 Received: (qmail 578 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 07:06:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 07:06:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BFEE181A8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EA0E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE9434AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:06:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02DB34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.21]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2311.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A6CF270000A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:06:06 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091005070606683.A6CF270000A3@msfrf2311.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4AC99B0B.5090102@sfr.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:06:51 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 09:06:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac99ae6241281413256596 Andrew Fildes wrote: >And the shutter lag... > > Is there any? Your experience? Phx >Andrew Fildes >afildes@people.net.au > > > >On 05/10/2009, at 11:18 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > >>I'd seriously look at the Panasonic G1 or GH1. Live -View that is >>miles >>ahead of anything else and the viewfinder image is HUGE. >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 09:15:27 2009 Received: (qmail 16297 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 07:15:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 07:15:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C120E1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1200CE24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F1919D936 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:15:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3372E19D933 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:15:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.147]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so500417eyb.8 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:15:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.22.147 with SMTP id t19mr939792wet.174.1254726918830; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:15:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:15:18 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 67e56d79f54b417d Message-ID: <9f07ac840910050015j6f59d65vd38a95dbbd0564d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... 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Do you like Korean food? Or may be visiting the Apple store in downtown Palo Alto? Then come on down to 452 University Ave, Han Restaurant for some good Korean food, plus a viewing of 12 of my images. They are printed on canvas, the largest one being 20"x52" and 3 of them have "live" Chinese calligraphy. Go in, enjoy and food! -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 10:43:34 2009 Received: (qmail 16209 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 08:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 08:43:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48BE181A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD31E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3518119DDCE for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6117819DDB2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:43:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21595 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2009 08:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 08:43:12 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4AC99B0B.5090102@sfr.fr> References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC99B0B.5090102@sfr.fr> Message-Id: <760EE022-0125-43C5-A54E-645747224BC1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:43:23 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 10:43:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9b1b6278492013633067 Yup - trying to shoot moving dancers by flash in a restaurant - it couldn't lock on quickly enough. Th task became impossible. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/10/2009, at 6:06 PM, Philippe Amard wrote: > Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> And the shutter lag... >> >> > Is there any? > Your experience? > Phx -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 10:49:36 2009 Received: (qmail 21737 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 08:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 08:49:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81081E18277 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382E4E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220FC34AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D177634AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3069279yxe.22 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.239.1 with SMTP id m1mr9563246ybh.152.1254732568368; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910050126i229c7ccah46b9ea697e9bd1ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac27f4f0910050126i229c7ccah46b9ea697e9bd1ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910050149o6e1f9345u9fecda95915caf8e@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] You know you have been shooting for too long... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 10:49:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9b320250595683411216 I shot 4 taiko concerts in 3 days (not all the same groups in the concerts). When I was driving home tonight, I keep thinking that the viewfinder (i.e. the windshield) is too wide :-P. About 4000+ shots taken, at least 600+ are OK. The taiko players have seen some and they are very pleased. Probably 20 or so are very good. ISO 1600 1/40 @F2 is the norm (at usually 180mm equiv. Image stabilization rocks). E-3 ROCKS MY WORLD :-) The Leica made an appearance one night, but since my 35/1.4 ASPH is in the shop, it stayed home the other times. -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 12:22:58 2009 Received: (qmail 4867 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 10:22:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 10:22:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0E6E182A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2682AE24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F009E19E109 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:22:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66F519E0FB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:22:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24868741.4631254738946029.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 312 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:35:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910050149o6e1f9345u9fecda95915caf8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:22:45 +0200 References: <7ac27f4f0910050126i229c7ccah46b9ea697e9bd1ac@mail.gmail.com> <7ac27f4f0910050149o6e1f9345u9fecda95915caf8e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] You know you have been shooting for too long... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 12:22:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9c902289721076813867 35-100mm f/2.0 I presume? A wonderful combination... Glad you enjoyed it :-) On 05 Oct 2009, at 10:49 AM, Richard Man wrote: > I shot 4 taiko concerts in 3 days (not all the same groups in the > concerts). When I was driving home tonight, I keep thinking that the > viewfinder (i.e. the windshield) is too wide :-P. > > About 4000+ shots taken, at least 600+ are OK. The taiko players have > seen some and they are very pleased. Probably 20 or so are very good. > ISO 1600 1/40 @F2 is the norm (at usually 180mm equiv. Image > stabilization rocks). E-3 ROCKS MY WORLD :-) The Leica made an > appearance one night, but > since my 35/1.4 ASPH is in the shop, it stayed home the other times. > > > > -- > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: > http://rfman.wordpress.com > // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 12:35:55 2009 Received: (qmail 20278 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 10:35:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 10:35:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A80E1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65789E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDFD34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:35:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2355234AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:35:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 317 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:48:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:35:42 +0200 References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 12:35:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9cc0b84591612113968 I agree 100%, I am amazed that a photography-related magazine would not publish that beautiful and artistic (not to mention abstract) photograph. What in the world is there for kids to not see? Heck, every kid spends his first couple of months in very close proximity to two of those :-) But Iwert, you are right, this is the same kind of people who would shun classic art as being "wrong" or "perverse"... Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and cannot be replicated (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. On 02 Oct 2009, at 12:55 PM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > 2009/10/2 Andrew Fildes: >> >> My best pinhole so far (er, nudity warning) - >> http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/117690547 >> (5D2, Bowens Striplight, my mate Andy's f192 home made pinhole) >> This is more fun than sharp. Shame the magazine won't use it. >> ("We're a family magazine - the publisher's family and they don't >> approve"). >> Andrew Fildes > > Poor kids if they aren't allowed to see this natural beauty... I > suppose they never visit a museum with classic art either and the > bathroom doors have locks in the house :) > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 12:54:19 2009 Received: (qmail 1017 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 10:54:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 10:54:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864D0E18214 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA4DE24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1A34AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6122D34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1710 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2009 10:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 10:53:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Message-Id: <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:54:07 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 12:54:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9d05b248484877110844 Thanks for that - I agree of course. Somehow you don't seem to be able to get the same look, no matter how hard you work at it. The other thing a pinhole does is to reveal every single, miniscule mote of dust on your sensor! Oh dear. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Dawid Loubser wrote: > Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and > cannot be replicated > (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 13:22:36 2009 Received: (qmail 18721 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 11:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 11:22:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD75CE18228 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F609E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DF334AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:22:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FEB34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:22:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.244] (244.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.244]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624203DAA87 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:22:25 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:22:24 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACA8DC0.5081.10884AC@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] ( OM ) Macro X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 13:22:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9d6fc210421950411718 Mike gave URL links as follows http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1683.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1554.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/spider1888.jpg http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/macro/leaf2083.jpg Great and sharp shots all. I like them. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 13:31:12 2009 Received: (qmail 22598 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 11:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 11:31:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A32E181BA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB63E24A98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC24934AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210D34AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.244] (244.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.244]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3526F3DAF13 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:31:06 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:31:05 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACA8FC9.12804.1107777@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 13:31:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9d900269391073733319 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the > consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the > real 357's or are they the 357/303's? > > http://www.sr44.com/ My question: why don't you use silver oxide SR44 batteries in the OMs? My understanding is they are the best. I do; Fujitsu -brand readily available here ( if you know where to go). Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:09:09 2009 Received: (qmail 29598 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:09:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBCEE1822B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88C9E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD64C34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF4A34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29578 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 12:08:59 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 12:08:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC9E1DB.1080406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:08:59 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:09:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e1e5116542517112723 You may be getting old but you and the equipment still work. But the images could use a bit of shadow fill. Chuck Norcutt Ian Nichols wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ian.a.nichols/NorthWeald0909# > > Some old aeroplanes. Seemed appropriate to use an old-fashioned film > camera and some slow b/w film. OM-4, 35/2, 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. > Scanned with a Nikon LS20, which is clearly having trouble with the > high contrast negatives. Had to fire-up a 15-year-old computer to use > the 11-year-old scanner to get these pics of 50-70 year-old aircraft > taken with a 20-year-old camera into the digital domain. I might be > getting old. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:12:01 2009 Received: (qmail 30097 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:12:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61314E18236 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD27E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C10B34AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740B134AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30663 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 12:10:48 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:12:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e291318651342116753 She's a beauty. Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > The hummingbird residents that stayed around all Summer are gone, but the migrating transients are showing up for a pit stop on their way South. This tired and hungry female spent the day around this feeder, and even allowed another to share it at times, but not for long. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Tired+_amp_+Hungry.jpg.html > > Comments and critiques welcomed. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:13:00 2009 Received: (qmail 16361 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:13:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:13:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87276E18039 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007BBE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF3A19E416 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D315A19E40C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.791) for ; 05 Oct 2009 23:12:25 +1000 Message-ID: <100.88cb0b00a8e2c94a.005@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:12:24 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.05 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.05.45.1425) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:13:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e2cc259699752976205 Wonder when all the art books publishers etc will be asked to put little black circles over anything 'sexual' or anything else deemed not suitable for children. It feels like that is where Australia is heading. Cheers Ian Manners "No problem is too big it can't be run away from" -- Linus -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:34:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10107 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:34:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:34:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE254E181CB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3EE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602E219E4E0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:34:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EA819E4DD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15999 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC9E7DF.8060607@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:34:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:34:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e7e8280741879814018 I don't have any specific recommendations but I do check the Epson Clearance Center from time to time looking for refub'd bargains. This link gets you to all the products and this one is just to the ink jet printers Epson "Work Force" printers are not photo quality. For that you want a printer with "Stylus Photo" in the name. I don't believe you can find a large format (13x19") for $150 but you can come close. This Stylus Photo 1400 is selling for $179 with free shipping. I've been tempted to buy this myself and especially since it can print on CDs and DVDs. But I have been holding out for a more expensive pigment ink printer. The 1400 uses Epson's Claria dye inks. But I think your Canon 900 also used dye inks so maybe you'd be happy with this one. You can find Vincent Oliver's review of the 1400 here As you can tell from his conclusion page he was quite happy with the results but thinks the ink cartridges are on the small side for a printer that makes very large prints. The refurb'd stuff you find on Epson's clearance center pages varies from day to day but the 1400 shows up fairly frequently. That could mean that it's not very robust or that they've sold lots of them. I think the latter since Oliver comments that it appears very well made. Chuck Norcutt Willie Wonka wrote: > My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. > > I am looking for recommendations for printer replacement. > > I do not intend to spend more than $150 this time. If it prints > larger than eight and a half by eleven is a bonus, but not a > requirement. > > So, which printer in this range would gimme the best photo quality? > > Many thanks in advance of course. > > Boris > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:38:29 2009 Received: (qmail 31862 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:38:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:38:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD66E18236 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2CEE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92B434AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2C334AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18900 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 12:38:22 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 12:38:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC9E8BD.6010407@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:38:21 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910050015j6f59d65vd38a95dbbd0564d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910050015j6f59d65vd38a95dbbd0564d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:38:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e8c454071234514069 My cheapie Epson pigment printer hasn't given me any such problem. I think the dye printers such as the Canons and the Epson 1400 I pointed to are even less likely to have clogging problems. Chuck Norcutt Jez Cunningham wrote: > If you like Canon I'm happy with my Pixma i5200. > I've been much happier than I was with Epson, especially as you can > replace the print head if it clogs instead of tossing the whole > printer. > Jez > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Willie Wonka wrote: >> My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. >> >> I am looking for recommendations for printer replacement. >> >> I do not intend to spend more than $150 this time. If it prints larger than eight and a half by eleven is a bonus, but not a requirement. >> >> So, which printer in this range would gimme the best photo quality? >> >> Many thanks in advance of course. >> >> Boris >> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:42:09 2009 Received: (qmail 18764 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:42:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:42:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D48CE18246 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795BFE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569E634AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F2A34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR100504KLYG1Q4@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:41:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC9E998.2090102@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:42:00 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:42:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9e9a1152211560218263 The 3rd body has some wear, rub marks on the body casting behind the lens mount, an etched number in the film chamber. That is the one I'm keeping. I will be listing the other "as new" body on my site at 11am EST on Monday 10/5. $1495. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: >> Maybe I don't count but I had 3 before I sold the one to Bill. CFO >> wifey would just stare at me when I suggested keeping more than one. ;-) >> > > Oh, that makes me happy. You DID keep one for yourself!!!! > > The world of known OM-3Ti cameras just increased by a significant amount. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:47:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13082 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:47:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:47:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0074E1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F35CE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143834AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD7934AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:46:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (listadr@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.148]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so875020qwa.26 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.8.84 with SMTP id g20mr3084660qag.306.1254746815043; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pool-71-185-0-31.phlapa.east.verizon.net [71.185.0.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1498441qyk.14.2009.10.05.05.46.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:46:45 -0400 From: Jim Loudon To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Organization: Not Applicable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Mil-spec(?) Olympus X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:47:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9eac943801234514069 Item number 120475704313 (completed auction). Ex-USA federal government Olympus camera kits must be fairly unusual, although there is at least one previous sighting mentioned in the archives: http://lists.tako.de/Olympus-OM/2005-11/msg00435.html jim -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 14:59:27 2009 Received: (qmail 14580 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 12:59:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 12:59:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD45E182A2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345C2E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A57A34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:59:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C760734AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:59:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3210169yxe.22 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:59:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr5109573anl.159.1254747560205; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:59:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91390BB1-1E96-4431-ABB2-FCD3BA48D8CB@threeshoes.net> References: <91390BB1-1E96-4431-ABB2-FCD3BA48D8CB@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:59:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 14:59:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9edaf287715683411216 2009/10/5 Chris Barker : > Thanks, Ian, those shots look great. =A0I do like the tones you've > achieved. Ta. I was really hoping to get an outstandingly good shot of the Vampire, so I could enter and win their photo competition ;) (the prize being a flight in its second seat), but missed the deadline anyway. I think the 3rd to last one was the best of that aircraft. Might print it and send them a copy anyway, just to say "keep up the good work". -- = Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:06:38 2009 Received: (qmail 30182 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:06:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:06:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1349E1824E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BF1E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC03A34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:06:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657C734AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:06:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n95D6UgT027211 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:06:30 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d3f.4a953f9d (32915) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:06:27 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:06:27 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mil-spec(?) Olympus X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:06:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9ef5e148235034211378 Holy cow, Batman! Olympus was spelled incorrectly and camera was described as Nikon in the text, however it is amazing that it didn't sell for more. Bill Barber In a message dated 10/5/2009 7:47:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, listadr@gmail.com writes: Item number 120475704313 (completed auction). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:10:37 2009 Received: (qmail 957 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:10:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BEBE18228 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6FAE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE1619E5FC for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:10:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4CE19E5F8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ed.sawyer@unh.edu whitelisted) Received: from exchange.unh.edu (ray.ad.unh.edu [132.177.152.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skate.ad.unh.edu ([169.254.3.159]) by ray.ad.unh.edu ([132.177.152.6]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:10:29 -0400 From: "Sawyer, Edward" To: "'olympus@thomasclausen.net'" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:10:29 -0400 Thread-Topic: 80/4 macro vs. the world. Thread-Index: AcpEErB4ETZxYz6cRxu5a1g/Sr3PMABqR+Rw Message-ID: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4 macro vs. the world. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:10:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f04d119859752976205 Hi Dawid - http://www.rodenstock-photo.com/index.php?id=1799 The rodenstock is pretty much optimized for 1:1, according to them. Honestly, I don't really know which is better as I have neither. But, logic would dictate the Apo-Rodagon is probably better (at least on paper.) Likely either would perform to satisfaction and be hard to tell apart in most all situations, esp. black-and-white, I'd think. As usual, the Oly stuff is well made no doubt. If you can find one at a reasonable price, I'd say go for it! It would be interesting to see what test results you get vs. say the 90/2 or others. If the Oly 80/4 was really a world-beater it would be in more demand, I'd think. Their high-demand macros are the 90/2, 20/2, 38 (maybe)... the 80 and 135 certainly have demand but not like those others. Not that that means a whole lot, but it is a factor certainly. It's too bad MP didn't test those macros, as it would have been interesting to see how they performed. BTW, the Summicron 50/2 is both better and worse than Oly 50/1.8, depending on where in the frame you measure and at what f-stop. At least according to modern photo tests. (relavent tests posted on http://www.edsawyer.com/lenstests/ ) Don't get me wrong, I love Oly. But I still am open to admitting there are other more modern lenses that are probably better in some regards. It doesn't diminish my love of Zuikos to admit such, though. ;-) For your project, you should track down and use some Kodak Tech Pan if you really want the best that black-and-white has to offer. Let me know if you need some, I could probably spare a bit of 35mm of it. -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:20:22 2009 Received: (qmail 7772 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:20:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:20:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4538FE181CD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F26FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0590519E644 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:20:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE7D19E63F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rbinnj@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.45] ([72.79.15.231]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR1005TGMD9G1W4@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:20:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4AC9F27A.2090807@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:19:54 -0400 From: Russ Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:20:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f296304211560218263 Ian Nichols wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ian.a.nichols/NorthWeald0909# > > Some old aeroplanes. Seemed appropriate to use an old-fashioned film > camera and some slow b/w film. OM-4, 35/2, 50/1.4 and 135/2.8. > Scanned with a Nikon LS20, which is clearly having trouble with the > high contrast negatives. Had to fire-up a 15-year-old computer to use > the 11-year-old scanner to get these pics of 50-70 year-old aircraft > taken with a 20-year-old camera into the digital domain. I might be > getting old. > Thanks for posting those. The "old" equipment worked fine imho. I really enjoyed looking through them though the planes don't look that old to me :-) Isn't that what planes are supposed to look like? -- Russ Butler (NJ USA) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:25:48 2009 Received: (qmail 3861 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:25:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B204E18277 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF18E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4EE19E661 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:25:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EA119E655 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ed.sawyer@unh.edu whitelisted) Received: from exchange.unh.edu (ray.ad.unh.edu [132.177.152.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skate.ad.unh.edu ([169.254.3.159]) by ray.ad.unh.edu ([132.177.152.6]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:40 -0400 From: "Sawyer, Edward" To: "'olympus@thomasclausen.net'" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:39 -0400 Thread-Topic: Oly 80/4 macro Thread-Index: AcpFmPIpb2jdja+OShKvi9FpaG6qfQAJe/8g Message-ID: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA6@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Oly 80/4 macro X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:25:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f3dc312931234514069 > Surely, the > lens designs are > totally different Lens diagrams: Rodenstock : http://tinyurl.com/y998lyv Oly: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/shared/zuiko/images/80mmf4opticNW.gif They are almost identical in appearance of the optical formula... so likely more alike than different in many ways. > Also, since the 80/4.0 is completely symmetrical, >From the image above it doesn't look totally symmetrical. Just some info, not trying to argue here... -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:28:19 2009 Received: (qmail 16481 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:28:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:28:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21405E182A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87712E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709EA19E6A8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CA819E6A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2958880fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.68 with SMTP id k4mr492240hbh.207.1254749292238; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC9E998.2090102@verizon.net> References: <6.2.5.6.1.20091001172717.01df1678@erols.com> <4AC5F974.8070204@verizon.net> <4AC9E998.2090102@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:28:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 19781ffce2b7c4ff Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Houston, the eagle has landed . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:28:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f473146981879814018 To put this in perspective, John has just handled 1/200 of the production total of OM-3Ti bodies. $1495 for an "as new" body is another bargain of the decade. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:37:12 2009 Received: (qmail 23100 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:37:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:37:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09EDE18255 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1E5E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB619E6C5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:37:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B38119E720 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:37:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2495704bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:37:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.153 with SMTP id k25mr3168hbe.68.1254749823338; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:37:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b91d15f6d5daa16e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mil-spec(?) Olympus X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:37:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f688168231946193717 $41 was a bargain, but given the description, I'd have been surprised to see it go for much more than $150. Where is Dr.T.? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:40:55 2009 Received: (qmail 21757 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:40:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:40:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E204FE18236 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F73E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A3C34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB60034AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2970044fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.143 with SMTP id t15mr2999hbt.92.1254750049124; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910050025o7517bf58m73c43a1e59d1a968@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> <489270.48840.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910050022v6adca198t143cd01f37032040@mail.gmail.com> <9f07ac840910050025o7517bf58m73c43a1e59d1a968@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:40:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 26b0706cf5e47b0d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] National Parks online X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:40:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9f767122447801554290 > > Many thanks for trying Ali, but "This video is not available in your > region due to rights restrictions" :-( > I don't mean to come across as ungrateful, but even my DVR went to sleep! AG Schnozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 15:57:07 2009 Received: (qmail 13728 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 13:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 13:57:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EA0E181BA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91D2E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D7534AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F0734AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20091005135700H0200s0d1ae>; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:57:00 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:56:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Mil-spec(?) Olympus X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 15:57:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9fb335421234514069 > Where is Dr.T.? I am here :) I am not at the point of searching ebay for misspelled "Olympus" yet, so I missed it... George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:12:24 2009 Received: (qmail 2957 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:12:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FECE181B9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9631E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD04319E7AA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD0C19E7EA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:12:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2344 invoked by uid 502); 5 Oct 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.73.108.52) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:11:49 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:12:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ac9fec861967801554290 Chris Barker wrote: > I like the feeling of a wave looming in a couple of those shots, Moose. > Thanks! > .... > I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls of Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, noisy affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy water, but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 combination at pretty low speeds: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black > > And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve that shot, if you have the time and inclination ... > Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks again, Chuck. I have flipped between my image and your reworking and I think mine shows off the creamy, peaty water better. It's also more likely to be what I saw at the time, given the latish hour and low sun with patchy cloud. > > I seem to prefer the darker images generally, when I am shooting, at least. > I agree that Chuck's alternate, while opening up shadow and highlight, loses some of the atmosphere. My alternate sticks closer to the tonal mood, while bringing out more rich tonal detail in the water. You still may not like it as much as the original, but I didn't see the subject, so am free to reimagine. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:18:59 2009 Received: (qmail 17636 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:18:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AEEE181AE for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018A2E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C969B34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:18:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037FD34AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8837.4661254753109574.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 74 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:31:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:18:48 +0200 References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4 macro vs. the world. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:18:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0053269421234514069 Cool, I didn't know their lens was optimised for 1:1 - well then, with that being the case, one can make a strong argument that the Apo Rodagon might probably be better than the Zuiko :-) Still, and especially in black+white, the differences should be near non-existent, as you say. I would love to sometime buy an old bulk roll of Tech Pan that's still in good condition, they are not cheap, but not that hard to come buy still. Time is running out though! (the reason for getting a bulk roll, would be to first get to know the characteristics of that particular roll at that particular age, and for consistency). But I first need to a.) wait a while b.) get a really, really serious tripod for macro work, and all sorts of other vibration-damping mechanisms thanks for the discussion :-) On 05 Oct 2009, at 3:10 PM, Sawyer, Edward wrote: > Hi Dawid - > > http://www.rodenstock-photo.com/index.php?id=1799 > > The rodenstock is pretty much optimized for 1:1, according to them. > > Honestly, I don't really know which is better as I have neither. > But, logic would dictate the Apo-Rodagon is probably better (at > least on paper.) Likely either would perform to satisfaction and be > hard to tell apart in most all situations, esp. black-and-white, I'd > think. As usual, the Oly stuff is well made no doubt. If you can > find one at a reasonable price, I'd say go for it! It would be > interesting to see what test results you get vs. say the 90/2 or > others. > > If the Oly 80/4 was really a world-beater it would be in more > demand, I'd think. Their high-demand macros are the 90/2, 20/2, 38 > (maybe)... the 80 and 135 certainly have demand but not like those > others. Not that that means a whole lot, but it is a factor certainly. > > It's too bad MP didn't test those macros, as it would have been > interesting to see how they performed. > > BTW, the Summicron 50/2 is both better and worse than Oly 50/1.8, > depending on where in the frame you measure and at what f-stop. At > least according to modern photo tests. (relavent tests posted on http://www.edsawyer.com/lenstests/ > ) > > Don't get me wrong, I love Oly. But I still am open to admitting > there are other more modern lenses that are probably better in some > regards. It doesn't diminish my love of Zuikos to admit such, > though. ;-) > > For your project, you should track down and use some Kodak Tech Pan > if you really want the best that black-and-white has to offer. Let > me know if you need some, I could probably spare a bit of 35mm of it. > > -Ed -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:20:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25369 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:20:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF13E1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47C6E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7834AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E203E34AC039 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MuoPk-00069R-2j for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:19:48 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MuoPj-0006Pb-FH for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:19:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACA0085.9090906@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:19:49 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:20:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0095180081744846740 Moose wrote: > > > I agree that Chuck's alternate, while opening up shadow and highlight, > loses some of the atmosphere. My alternate sticks closer to the tonal > mood, while bringing out more rich tonal detail in the water. You still > may not like it as much as the original, but I didn't see the subject, > so am free to reimagine. > > > Moose I just can't see it using that method, a mouseover might convince me. All the screenshifting at that size masks any effect, for me. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:28:10 2009 Received: (qmail 24948 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:28:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:28:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767D2E182AA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7EAE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6338E34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4834AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3285611yxe.22 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.9.4 with SMTP id m4mr123480ani.7.1254752884537; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC9F27A.2090807@verizon.net> References: <4AC9F27A.2090807@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:28:04 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:28:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca027a130241413256596 2009/10/5 Russ Butler : > Thanks for posting those. The "old" equipment worked fine imho. > I really enjoyed looking through them though the planes don't look that > old to me :-) Isn't that what planes are supposed to look like? They're mostly older than me, and only two of those aircraft types are young enough for me to have seen them at airshows whilst they were still in service. Maybe I should take a 10x8 view camera next time I go to Old Warden ;) -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:48:21 2009 Received: (qmail 11319 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:48:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F5BE182B0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC49E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C00634AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB9834AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR100JA3QG7D6BK@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:48:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:48:09 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> In-reply-to: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:48:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0735117592439112457 During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other features are affected). Same price $950. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:48:25 2009 Received: (qmail 13223 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:48:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2142FE18246 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9053DE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF9719E8E8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36B719E8ED for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2560356bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.23.193 with SMTP id s1mr4031778bkb.25.1254754084654; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:48:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <489270.48840.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> <489270.48840.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:48:04 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 31e4f2c5cba4838a Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [OT] National Parks online X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:48:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca073974871234514069 Unfortunately not in Europe I think. The video displays "... not available in your region due to right restrictions" ;-(. Hmm.. I'm getting determined to view it on-line ;-) Regards, Frank 2009/10/5 AS > > For Jez: > > http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/ > > You can view the full length series online. > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:52:35 2009 Received: (qmail 7984 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:52:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BE0E1824D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228E1E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B59734AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B360234AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:52:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR1003REQMY8103@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:52:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA081C.3060708@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:52:12 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> In-reply-to: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:52:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0833174311946193717 A previous order I placed never arrived (and I was not billed for it) multiple email inquiries go unanswered. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Mike Lazzari wrote: > It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the > consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the > real 357's or are they the 357/303's? > > http://www.sr44.com/ > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:55:54 2009 Received: (qmail 7248 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:55:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DE9E182A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D1BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A0D34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A5234AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR100GQTQQYVS4M@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:54:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA08AC.5090000@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:54:36 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:55:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca08fa301551612113968 This place lists Sony SR44W, but they are expensive. http://shopping.microbattery.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4855/.f ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I don't know where the best place is to buy any more but the original > Everready 357s are no longer made. The replacement is called 357/303 or > 367/303H. Note that the 303H is rated at 175 mAh while the 303 is rated > only 150 mAh. > > Durcell lists their own version of the 357 (D303/357) as 165 mAh but > their MS76 (another 357 compatible) is shown at 180 mAh. > > These values are from a paper that Tim Hughes put together about 2 years > ago and I just double checked the Duracell values on their site. Tim's > paper contains probably far more info than you really want to know. > Lots of time, temperature and load discharge curves. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Jez Cunningham wrote: >> DON'T USE THIS SITE... >> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: >>> It's been a while and I need a fresh battery stash. What was the >>> consensus on the last discussion of batteries? Does this place sell the >>> real 357's or are they the 357/303's? >>> >>> http://www.sr44.com/ >>> >>> Mike >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 16:59:29 2009 Received: (qmail 14603 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 14:59:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 14:59:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC16E182A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D38BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3313419E8F5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E947B19E8CF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR100L1FQYHAIRA@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA09BB.1040505@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:59:07 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8238E.6090500@interisland.net> <9f07ac840910040505ic208b88mcc076470b03b569a@mail.gmail.com> <4AC8A5F0.1040606@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B2DC.6080906@gmail.com> <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4AC8BA4C.5070604@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 16:59:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca09d141189730998309 Original 2S and 4 drain (meter off) is around 30 micro amps. OM-4 meter on is around 0.6 ma (600 micro amps). That's what I have written down at least. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yikes! I didn't look at the discharge curve. I thought all silver > oxide were pretty flat but that isn't so. Looks like Eveready 303H is > the best bet. Tim's original paper is available on Mark's site: > > I don't know how to interpret the curves for all the other batteries > there not knowing what the current draw is of the various cameras. I > seem to recall that JH said the OM-2s and original OM-4 were highest at > about 8 mA. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Moose wrote: >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> I don't know where the best place is to buy any more but the original Everready 357s are no longer made. The replacement is called 357/303 or 367/303H. Note that the 303H is rated at 175 mAh while the 303 is rated >>> only 150 mAh. >>> >> For OM use, it's not the capacity, it's the curve. The 357/303 has a bad >> curve, dropping continuously. It will fall below the minimum for shutter >> operation, leading to shutter lock-up, long before using up all the >> capacity. >> >> The 357/303H has a nice flat curve out to 600 hrs, that drops fairly >> suddenly. Not quite an incarnation of the original 357, but MUCH better >> suited for OMs than the non "H" version. Doesn't matter where you buy, >> as long as it's the correct version. >> >> Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:07:58 2009 Received: (qmail 2296 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:07:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:07:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903B1E1829D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C790AE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC37E34AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC4D34AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3053660fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.164 with SMTP id q36mr13188hbg.87.1254755230907; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:07:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04260504311d852b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mil-spec(?) Olympus X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:07:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0bce157581220213263 > > I am here :) > You've been relatively silent lately and I was concerned that you left us. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:10:53 2009 Received: (qmail 29534 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:10:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:10:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07824E182AB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDA0E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C15A34AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E050734AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (donholbrook@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p0ca1c0041ZXKqc543AgrK; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:10:40 +0000 Received: from sz0029.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.79]) by OMTA21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p3GP1c00G1iZpPQ3h3GPTk; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:16:23 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:10:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Don Holbrook To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [76.98.207.13] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (zclient/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:10:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0c7d145139752976205 I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hermanson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other features are affected). Same price $950. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:12:27 2009 Received: (qmail 158 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:12:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74601E18244 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E81E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0E519E97A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332C919E967 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3058996fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:12:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.164 with SMTP id q36mr13823hbg.87.1254755538906; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:12:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:12:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3c8df6ea73fb7e7b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:12:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0cdb138741950411718 It Beeps????? Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:14:43 2009 Received: (qmail 21222 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:14:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:14:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6B6E1824E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952FFE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895E734AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:14:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD9734AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:14:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2584621bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:14:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.154 with SMTP id n26mr4155707bkx.90.1254755662562; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:14:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:14:22 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:14:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0d63108431073733319 I sold my OM-4T a long time ago , but IIRC the beeping function could be turned on/ off. Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > It Beeps????? > > Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. > > $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:17:04 2009 Received: (qmail 26821 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:17:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:17:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8917E18279 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27988E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA1E34AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964C934AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR100BYQRRPP8V0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:16:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA0DD7.6090406@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:16:39 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9f07ac840910050015j6f59d65vd38a95dbbd0564d0@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9f07ac840910050015j6f59d65vd38a95dbbd0564d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:17:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0df0197761413256596 Ditto. The print head on my Canon Pixma 6600 developed clogged cyan nozzles. No amount of cleaning mad it better. I removed all ink tanks, removed the print head and with warm water, washed out all the residual ink that had accumulated since I got the printer. I carefully dried everything, reinstalled, ran one clean cycle and it worked like a charm. I, too, am much happier with Canon that I ever was with epson. Used the same technique on the 9900. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Jez Cunningham wrote: > If you like Canon I'm happy with my Pixma i5200. > I've been much happier than I was with Epson, especially as you can > replace the print head if it clogs instead of tossing the whole > printer. > Jez > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Willie Wonka wrote: >> My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. >> >> I am looking for recommendations for printer replacement. >> >> I do not intend to spend more than $150 this time. If it prints larger than eight and a half by eleven is a bonus, but not a requirement. >> >> So, which printer in this range would gimme the best photo quality? >> >> Many thanks in advance of course. >> >> Boris >> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:19:29 2009 Received: (qmail 30242 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:19:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647D5E182A1 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E10AE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C15919E98E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D16019E98F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2588312bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:18:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.163.65 with SMTP id z1mr3858882bkx.145.1254755907440; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:18:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:18:27 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910050818p3d89e312ncfc0a874c528dc62@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:19:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0e81212751073733319 My memory is cloudy. The beeping I'm thinking of was when you cleared the spot meter or removed a lens. John is refering to battery check which is not user controlled. Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Charles Geilfuss < charles.geilfuss@gmail.com> wrote: > I sold my OM-4T a long time ago , but IIRC the beeping function could be > turned on/ off. > > Charlie > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > >> It Beeps????? >> >> Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. >> >> $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! >> >> AG >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:21:30 2009 Received: (qmail 11222 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:21:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDEFE18277 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B75DE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD2834AC034 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA0A34AC02C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2591091bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.212 with SMTP id m20mr10215hbh.209.1254756080680; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:21:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6628f406ad042b50 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:21:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0efa133761413256596 > > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > Whahoo!!! We have a winner! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:24:57 2009 Received: (qmail 7056 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:24:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C1E182AF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD940E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AD034AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8363434AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20091005152434H0200s09nce>; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:24:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:23:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:24:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca0fc943582517112723 > You've been relatively silent lately and I was concerned that you left us. You guys are the most interesting email discussion group I have ever joined... I will never leave you :) I've been busy and don't have much to contribute to the topics discussed lately, but I am reading all the postings. I have accumulated so much Olympus OM stuff, my head is spinning just thinking about it! I am tired of buying :) It is time to sort things out and start selling. I just ordered the new Fuji digital stereo camera. I wrote a short review of the camera in our stereo club's newsletter: www.ohio3d.com/Fuji3dReview.pdf This will be my introduction to digital stereo photography. Tomorrow we have a stereo club meeting and it is all digital. I will try to enter some of the Fuji 3d pictures that I shot in less than an hour with the camera. Other news: I am preparing to run the Athens (Greece) marathon , November 8th. This is very exciting for me! I was born and grew up in Athens, not far from the Stadium where the 1896 Olympics were held and where the marathon finish will be. I've always been fascinated with the Olympics since I was a kid, and with the marathon since I started running in 2001 (at the age of 42). Running the "Classic Marathon" (same route as the 1896 race) is a "dream come true". The next dream-come-true will be to run Boston in April, the world's oldest continuously held marathon. I am thinking of running with the Fuji camera in my hands, to document the experience in 3d. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:27:51 2009 Received: (qmail 28250 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:27:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56EEE182B1 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171B8E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE6834AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9B534AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2596980bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.22 with SMTP id e22mr4021811bkw.93.1254756453889; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:27:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:27:33 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910050827x745f2483s1339e33688588470@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:27:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca1077142115683411216 Hey be careful George. The first guy that ran that thing dropped dead at the finish line. ;^) Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > > You've been relatively silent lately and I was concerned that you left > us. > > You guys are the most interesting email discussion group I have ever > joined... I will never leave you :) > > I've been busy and don't have much to contribute to the topics discussed > lately, but I am reading all the postings. > > I have accumulated so much Olympus OM stuff, my head is spinning just > thinking about it! I am tired of buying :) It is time to sort things out > and start selling. > > I just ordered the new Fuji digital stereo camera. I wrote a short review > of the camera in our stereo club's newsletter: > www.ohio3d.com/Fuji3dReview.pdf > > This will be my introduction to digital stereo photography. > > Tomorrow we have a stereo club meeting and it is all digital. I will try > to > enter some of the Fuji 3d pictures that I shot in less than an hour with > the > camera. > > Other news: I am preparing to run the Athens (Greece) marathon , November > 8th. This is very exciting for me! I was born and grew up in Athens, not > far from the Stadium where the 1896 Olympics were held and where the > marathon finish will be. I've always been fascinated with the Olympics > since > I was a kid, and with the marathon since I started running in 2001 (at the > age of 42). Running the "Classic Marathon" (same route as the 1896 race) > is > a "dream come true". The next dream-come-true will be to run Boston in > April, the world's oldest continuously held marathon. > > I am thinking of running with the Fuji camera in my hands, to document the > experience in 3d. > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:32:37 2009 Received: (qmail 28217 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:32:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:32:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8FE1822E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC2EE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA4219E9BD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:31:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C0A19E9C3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2600311bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:31:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.162 with SMTP id c34mr17315hba.0.1254756664617; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:31:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8d9c61cf70d8c0ff Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:32:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca1195271801076813867 > > My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. > My 9000 is having "issues" with an oversensitive binding detector, but the 900 I bought off the bay is still chunking away. I was getting tired of constantly refilling cartridges so I bought a continuous-feed system for it. One of the colors plugged up, but the system has churned out page after page after page... I was hoping to rebuild the 9000 with parts from the 900 but haven't been able to yet. I did replace one print head as it literally wore out. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Canon printer due to the extremely low operating cost it has afforded me for color text pages using bulk inks. I shudder to think of the thousands of pages it has printed. I've been contemplating getting a new household printer when my current stock of bulk inks run out and they are getting low. As to photo-quality printing, instead of buying a new printer, I decided to outsource until further notice. The pro lab I use has been great for me and the print quality is much higher than I had been getting before and my per-print costs have decreased tremendously. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:37:49 2009 Received: (qmail 23328 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:37:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:37:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8CBE1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ED3E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F11534AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2FA34AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20091005153732H0200rvuspe>; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:37:33 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <9E74DF6C4F3C4015ABED17F75A55C804@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> <14883a8b0910050827x745f2483s1339e33688588470@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:37:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:37:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca12cd117901220213263 > Hey be careful George. The first guy that ran that thing dropped dead at > the finish line. ;^) > Charlie Yes, thanks for the warning Charlie! :) Two comments regarding this: 1. This is a legend that first appeared some 500 years after the battle of the Marathon. The official historian of the battle did not say anything about this, and he was the type of guy who loved to tell a good story. So historians suspect that this is not a real story. 2. Even if it is a true that this newscarrier dropped dead after running from Marathon to Athens (about 26 miles) to announce "We won", the reason that this happened is that the previous day or two he had run from Athens to Sparta and back (150 miles each way) to ask the Spartans to help the Athenians in the battle. So he was a bit tired, to put it mildly. The Athens marathon is considered a difficult course. The winner of the 1896 "inaugural" race was a Greek and he finished around 3 hours. My time goal is 3:30. Now, I am thinking, maybe my fascination with Olympus has to do with the Greek origin of the name? George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:49:44 2009 Received: (qmail 15073 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:49:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:49:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF99CE18228 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4CDE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AF519EA12 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7826419EA11 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n95FnXKU032316 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:49:36 GMT Message-ID: <18F39B36E946492CBDF72B8FF1C6C68A@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC9E248.2070006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:49:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca159859932013633067 Hi Chuck, Thanks for looking, and for the kind words. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry > She's a beauty. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> The hummingbird residents that stayed around all Summer are gone, but the >> migrating transients are showing up for a pit stop on their way South. >> This tired and hungry female spent the day around this feeder, and even >> allowed another to share it at times, but not for long. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Tired+_amp_+Hungry.jpg.html >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 17:54:54 2009 Received: (qmail 13223 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 15:54:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 15:54:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D70DE182D1 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E56BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C8734AC02B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA1F34AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:54:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.209.219]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR1006MYTIT1OG6@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:54:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:54:31 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 17:54:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca16ce276542517112723 The 4Ti beep turn-off is around the self timer ring. I don't think there is such a switch on the 3Ti or at least I can't find it. I planned to sell through on these so was not intending to open to try and fix. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Charles Geilfuss wrote: > I sold my OM-4T a long time ago , but IIRC the beeping function could be > turned on/ off. > > Charlie > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > >> It Beeps????? >> >> Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. >> >> $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! >> >> AG >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 18:19:57 2009 Received: (qmail 4040 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 16:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 16:19:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F58E182B8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B6FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF5934AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A6334AC026 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24560 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:19:48 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 18:19:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca1cad321651258626592 Oh dear is rignt! I never thought about a pinhole's ability to reveal dust. I normally only try to clean the sensor such that it looks clean at f/11 since I almost never shoot higher than that. f/16 is sometimes hard to achieve. f/128, well.... Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Thanks for that - I agree of course. Somehow you don't seem to be > able to get the same look, no matter how hard you work at it. The > other thing a pinhole does is to reveal every single, miniscule mote > of dust on your sensor! Oh dear. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Dawid Loubser wrote: > >> Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and >> cannot be replicated >> (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 18:26:00 2009 Received: (qmail 18850 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 16:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 16:25:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1F5E182A2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03064E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49F819EA95 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1C019EA9B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30577 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 16:25:53 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 16:25:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA1E10.4090507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:25:52 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 18:26:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca1e18300501357919056 I too have given up trying to print anything except an occasional small print or two that I'd like to have right now. The lab does a much better job and at a much lower price. And that's the real reason I haven't bought a large printer. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. >> > > My 9000 is having "issues" with an oversensitive binding detector, but the > 900 I bought off the bay is still chunking away. I was getting tired of > constantly refilling cartridges so I bought a continuous-feed system for > it. One of the colors plugged up, but the system has churned out page after > page after page... I was hoping to rebuild the 9000 with parts from the 900 > but haven't been able to yet. I did replace one print head as it literally > wore out. > > I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Canon printer due to the extremely low > operating cost it has afforded me for color text pages using bulk inks. I > shudder to think of the thousands of pages it has printed. I've been > contemplating getting a new household printer when my current stock of bulk > inks run out and they are getting low. > > As to photo-quality printing, instead of buying a new printer, I decided to > outsource until further notice. The pro lab I use has been great for me and > the print quality is much higher than I had been getting before and my > per-print costs have decreased tremendously. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 18:35:18 2009 Received: (qmail 17999 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 16:35:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 16:35:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6529E181CB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7180BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5594619EAE9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE3219EAE0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:35:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2657482bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:35:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.145 with SMTP id c17mr25313hba.14.1254760509936; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:35:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 656342e2ff5e20eb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 18:35:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca204697432439112457 > > I've been busy and don't have much to contribute to the topics discussed > lately, but I am reading all the postings. > I rarely have anything to contribute either, but it doesn't stop me from posting. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 18:38:45 2009 Received: (qmail 22415 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 16:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 16:38:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B69E181B2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EB8E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B3319EAF9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:38:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33E819EAF6 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3140648fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr23334hbh.61.1254760718461; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:38:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: acf63b12e16f6972 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4 macro vs. the world. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 18:38:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca2115270291560218263 > > Don't get me wrong, I love Oly. But I still am open to admitting there are > other more modern lenses that are probably better in some regards. It > doesn't diminish my love of Zuikos to admit such, though. ;-) > Some of the Zuikos have some serious "flaws" as compared to, uh, modern lenses. But some of those "flaws" are exploitable and become strengths. I'd prefer the flare-free performance to modern lenses, but do appreciate the lower contrast of the older lenses--especially for digital and B&W where the lower contrast lenses help contain some of the dynamic range in the scenes. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 18:52:57 2009 Received: (qmail 8162 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 16:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 16:52:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2427E182A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F7FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DA719EB3B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3291019EB36 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23640 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 16:52:50 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 16:52:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA2461.90106@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:52:49 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> In-Reply-To: <559118BA300F3F45AC547BC9E4FD7D99186F555FA4@SKATE.ad.unh.edu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4 macro vs. the world. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 18:52:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca2469232804877110844 I think we've concluded some time ago that Modern's tests were undoubtedly negatively influenced by the aperture bounce of the OMs. Just look at the difference in Gary Reese's tests of various lenses with and without mirror and aperture pre-fire. The 200/4 especially. Chuck Norcutt Sawyer, Edward wrote: > Hi Dawid - > > BTW, the Summicron 50/2 is both better and worse than Oly 50/1.8, > depending on where in the frame you measure and at what f-stop. At > least according to modern photo tests. (relavent tests posted on > http://www.edsawyer.com/lenstests/ ) > > Don't get me wrong, I love Oly. But I still am open to admitting > there are other more modern lenses that are probably better in some > regards. It doesn't diminish my love of Zuikos to admit such, though. > ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:13:51 2009 Received: (qmail 27573 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:13:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:13:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F42E18228 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19576E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6A734AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DDA34AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED57C966C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:44:30 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:13:44 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:13:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca294f173776789618724 Lovely, Jim. Thanks for showing us that shot. Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 01:40, Jim Nichols wrote: > The hummingbird residents that stayed around all Summer are gone, > but the migrating transients are showing up for a pit stop on their > way South. This tired and hungry female spent the day around this > feeder, and even allowed another to share it at times, but not for > long. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Tired+_amp_+Hungry.jpg.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:24:06 2009 Received: (qmail 32452 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:24:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D264E1822D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EF7E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F35819EB83 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6056419EB7C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82059C96D7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:54:45 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:23:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:24:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca2bb6313167801554290 Thanks, Moose. I like that Moosification better than most, but there are still some bits about my result that I prefer. However, I do like the richness of the colour that you have brought out. Would you mind sharing your secret (again, perhaps). Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:11, Moose wrote: >> I was at a busy waterfall over our holiday last month. The Falls >> of Dochart, near Killin in Perthshire, Scotland, are a lovely, >> noisy affair. I know that one or two of the List don't like creamy >> water, but I managed quite a few handheld shots with my E-3/12-60 >> combination at pretty low speeds: >> >> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100085/_9043143&bgcolor=black >> >> And Moose, feel free to indicate what needs to happen to improve >> that shot, if you have the time and inclination ... >> > Chris Barker wrote: >> Thanks again, Chuck. I have flipped between my image and your >> reworking and I think mine shows off the creamy, peaty water >> better. It's also more likely to be what I saw at the time, given >> the latish hour and low sun with patchy cloud. >> >> I seem to prefer the darker images generally, when I am shooting, >> at least. >> > > I agree that Chuck's alternate, while opening up shadow and highlight, > loses some of the atmosphere. My alternate sticks closer to the tonal > mood, while bringing out more rich tonal detail in the water. You > still > may not like it as much as the original, but I didn't see the subject, > so am free to reimagine. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:31:08 2009 Received: (qmail 32451 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:31:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:31:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25BE18200 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D241E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFC134AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB27C34AC033 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n95HUtJ3015021 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:55 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.bf4.599d8378 (29678) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:51 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:31:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca2d5c87381357919056 There will be no disappointments with the beepless one. It is every bit as nice as the photographs. John told me about its beeplessness before I purchased and I actually never had an opportunity to install the new batteries and run a roll of film through it, when he offered the same item with a beep. So I sent him an offer to swap some cash and for him to send me some beep. It all worked out well. John is a gentleman and a heck of a fine entrepreneur. Always a pleasure doing business with a man of character and most unpleasant when that is missing. That has never been missing in my many transactions with John. Bill Barber In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:48:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, omtech1@verizon.net writes: During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other features are affected). Same price $950. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:33:03 2009 Received: (qmail 19960 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:33:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0C9E182B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CB3E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9F734AC030 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C104434AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com (mail-ew0-f219.google.com [209.85.219.219]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3116850ewy.28 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.9.80 with SMTP id 58mr71926wes.62.1254763976573; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:32:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 97c1a6cb9fefd926 Message-ID: <9f07ac840910051032h54fd3bf3h6eb6d38453c8e695@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:40:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca2f953044877110844 Well give me a shout and I might come with you, if you don't mind. I live around 20 minutes' drive from Old Warden; I just need the excuse to hop over there with a camera ... Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:28, Ian Nichols wrote: >> Thanks for posting those. The "old" equipment worked fine imho. >> I really enjoyed looking through them though the planes don't look >> that >> old to me :-) Isn't that what planes are supposed to look like? > > They're mostly older than me, and only two of those aircraft types are > young enough for me to have seen them at airshows whilst they were > still in service. Maybe I should take a 10x8 view camera next time I > go to Old Warden ;) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:45:18 2009 Received: (qmail 27856 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:45:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB10E181DE for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA00E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E59334AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5D134AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B1FC96CF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:15:59 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:45:13 +0100 Message-Id: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [OM] OT -- Panny LX3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:45:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca30ae48513900897491 I could not resist it any longer. I have been reading about this camera for a couple of weeks now, but no shop has had it in stock to look at, never mind buy. Eventually I found an eBeee retailer who has sold me one and I should have it by Wednesday. I normally require an optical viewfinder, but this seems to tick every other box such as, RAW, wide, small, quality. I was considering waiting for the G11, but it is quite a bit more and I don't really need the longer part of the lens. Added to that, the G! has grown bumps which rather mar its looks. I do wish that Olympus did a better job with their compact digital machines ... Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:45:31 2009 Received: (qmail 23285 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:45:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF18E182A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A664E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C9019EBDA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3719EBD9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com (mail-ew0-f219.google.com [209.85.219.219]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3129201ewy.28 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:45:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.72.68 with SMTP id s46mr70991wed.122.1254764724025; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:45:23 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f4849800a9f234fe Message-ID: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Leica X1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:45:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca30bb125071073733319 Alongside all the hoop-la about the M9 I didn't see much reaction to the X1 - is it a u4/3 challenger? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp br jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:47:35 2009 Received: (qmail 21529 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:47:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA72E182D0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1123DE24AA2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398634AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8C134AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B644BC96CF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:17:50 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:47:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: Message-Id: <18223DE9-29AD-41EA-A63B-AC4024A00A54@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:47:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca313763271946193717 I am very impressed that there has been so much goodwill about the movement of 3Ti bodies. Ever since Ken received his kind donation there have been good stories about 3Tis, well 2 anyway ... ;-) Well done, John. On 5 Oct 2009, at 18:30, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > There will be no disappointments with the beepless one. It is > every bit > as nice as the photographs. John told me about its beeplessness > before I > purchased and I actually never had an opportunity to install the new > batteries and run a roll of film through it, when he offered the > same item with a > beep. So I sent him an offer to swap some cash and for him to send > me some > beep. It all worked out well. John is a gentleman and a heck of a > fine > entrepreneur. Always a pleasure doing business with a man of > character and > most unpleasant when that is missing. That has never been missing > in my > many transactions with John. Bill Barber > > > > In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:48:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > omtech1@verizon.net writes: > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to > Bill > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot > reading > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but > with > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no > other > features are affected). Same price $950. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 19:52:17 2009 Received: (qmail 13332 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 17:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 17:52:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FCCE182B2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B404BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF6919EBF0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9AD19EBFF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n95Hq7MV008159 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:52:10 GMT Message-ID: <88339B1576164110AB0D7671320ACD05@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:52:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 19:52:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca3251117141357919056 Hi Chris, Thanks for looking. Not as interesting as your airplanes, but they both fly. ;-) Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tired & Hungry > Lovely, Jim. Thanks for showing us that shot. > > Chris > > On 5 Oct 2009, at 01:40, Jim Nichols wrote: > >> The hummingbird residents that stayed around all Summer are gone, >> but the migrating transients are showing up for a pit stop on their >> way South. This tired and hungry female spent the day around this >> feeder, and even allowed another to share it at times, but not for >> long. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Tired+_amp_+Hungry.jpg.html > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 20:32:43 2009 Received: (qmail 24721 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 18:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 18:32:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161F5E182A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD8E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4084234AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:32:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D44634AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091005183235.HDKN913.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:35 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id p6Ya1c00H4Z9Gks026YaEB; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:32:35 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=M6JPiHRyAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=bbtC-nftAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=pXpzB9PFPyW6-8hRjWsA:9 a=lF5P6qInUDrhnseZGHYA:7 a=OyvryN-HEL3x5IIymsfQUWl-SB8A:4 a=ObBlVMM_owYA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:32:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Leica X1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 20:32:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca3bcb246665368819438 Yes, all the compacts with APS-c and slightly smaller sensors should be considered competition. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jez Cunningham" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [OM] Leica X1 > Alongside all the hoop-la about the M9 I didn't see much reaction to > the X1 - is it a u4/3 challenger? > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp > br > jez > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2413 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 20:45:44 2009 Received: (qmail 20484 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 18:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 18:45:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1D3E18247 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561A7E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F134AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E91234AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3247119fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:45:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.90 with SMTP id m26mr4294251bkx.63.1254768336799; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0910041758r46d14e45g1d2473b4fa760cc3@mail.gmail.com> <489270.48840.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:45:36 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910051145j1d6b5ef3g6ce85d3ddf674f4d@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] National Parks online X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 20:45:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca3ed8247611342116753 Perhaps you could view it through one of those "Anonymizer" websites so that PBS can't see that you are on a computer in Europe. Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Frank Wijsmuller wrote: > Unfortunately not in Europe I think. > The video displays "... not available in your region due to right > restrictions" ;-(. > Hmm.. I'm getting determined to view it on-line ;-) > Regards, Frank > > 2009/10/5 AS > > > > > For Jez: > > > > http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/ > > > > You can view the full length series online. > > > > > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 20:48:42 2009 Received: (qmail 26025 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 18:48:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 18:48:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A925E1829D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31F5E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3D34AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:48:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0461634AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:48:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3249492fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.89 with SMTP id c25mr32868hbg.156.1254768511611; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:48:31 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ce035ed5de4f4ad Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Leica X1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 20:48:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca3f8a232081006886880 > > Alongside all the hoop-la about the M9 I didn't see much reaction to > the X1 - is it a u4/3 challenger? > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp > It is a uM/3 challenger for ME personally. I don't know about anybody else, but the camera is potentially a winner in my book. Enough so that I'm reexamining a previous "old" camera. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:07:20 2009 Received: (qmail 1302 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:07:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:07:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC3E182AD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01F5E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B5D34AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:07:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BD134AC033 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:07:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3264961fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:07:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.164 with SMTP id q36mr39642hbg.87.1254769633718; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:07:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18223DE9-29AD-41EA-A63B-AC4024A00A54@threeshoes.net> References: <18223DE9-29AD-41EA-A63B-AC4024A00A54@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:07:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0437844328723469 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:07:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca43e8170576789618724 > > I am very impressed that there has been so much goodwill about the > movement of 3Ti bodies. Ever since Ken received his kind donation > there have been good stories about 3Tis, well 2 anyway ... ;-) > I'm looking forward to the goodwill surrounding a 250/2 or 350/2.8. ;) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:09:55 2009 Received: (qmail 17890 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:09:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE70E18229 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9B3E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8B634AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:09:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738DB34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:09:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3267114fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:09:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.91 with SMTP id c27mr38398hbg.51.1254769789620; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:09:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910051032h54fd3bf3h6eb6d38453c8e695@mail.gmail.com> References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> <9f07ac840910051032h54fd3bf3h6eb6d38453c8e695@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:09:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 72bd50f31d400d17 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:09:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca4483196461234514069 > > Well I trust that, according to tradition, you'll be running naked. > The Fuji will be handy to keep some decency... > The Fuji is a 3D camera. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:13:39 2009 Received: (qmail 18350 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:13:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:13:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46687E182AB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61DE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B32234AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BF534AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 47AED70000A7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:13:31 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091005191331293.47AED70000A7@msfrf2303.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACA4579.1090408@sfr.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:14:01 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:13:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca4563152401006886880 Moose wrote: >am free to reimagine. > > >Moose > > Works wonders - what about secret sharing now? ;-) Phx -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:17:58 2009 Received: (qmail 32582 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:17:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5A8E182B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15325E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B9319ED92 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B0B19ED99 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.19]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 737C870000A7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:17:49 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091005191749473.737C870000A7@msfrf2303.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACA467C.8050908@sfr.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:18:20 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <06619C7C-34E9-46BF-B0DA-E17E4F339720@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:17:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca4666297153900897491 Chris - I fell in love with the place Arrived late afternoon, all shot in a rush, unfortunately had to leave early next morning - overcast but no rain - one of the places I'd like to visit again for sure. I'll have to check about the wire - even though it was more than a year ago other takes are still awaiting processing ... Life ... Philippe Chris Barker wrote: >Thanks, Bob. But I fancy that Philippe has managed a better shot in >his group. Mine included a wire hanging down (part of the system to >light the burial ground on an island halfway along the bridge, where >members of the original ruling clan were buried. > >Philippe's has managed to exclude the wire: > >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/2008+Ecosse-1050972_001.jpg.html > >... although it is possible that it wasn't there then. > >This is the burial ground, as captured by Philippe: > >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/UK+tour+2008/2008+Ecosse-1050963.jpg.html > >It was pi**ing with rain for much of our visit, and I didn't venture >out to take this shot. > >Chris > >On 4 Oct 2009, at 21:46, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > > >>I'm partial to the one where the water shoots under the bridge. I >>think there's a lot of potential there. Folks who cream the water >>almost always are shooting upstream. Shooting downstream has its own >>charm. >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:25:33 2009 Received: (qmail 16331 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:25:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:25:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C233CE181BA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEB9E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0945419EDC9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:25:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4992719EDC7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:25:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20514 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 19:25:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT -- Panny LX3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:25:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca482d33621357919056 I'm jealous. But I'm not really sure I could get on with just 60mm equivalent on the long end. But I sure like the 24mm short end. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > I could not resist it any longer. I have been reading about this > camera for a couple of weeks now, but no shop has had it in stock to > look at, never mind buy. Eventually I found an eBeee retailer who has > sold me one and I should have it by Wednesday. > > I normally require an optical viewfinder, but this seems to tick every > other box such as, RAW, wide, small, quality. I was considering > waiting for the G11, but it is quite a bit more and I don't really > need the longer part of the lens. Added to that, the G! has grown > bumps which rather mar its looks. > > I do wish that Olympus did a better job with their compact digital > machines ... > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:27:34 2009 Received: (qmail 4981 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:27:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:27:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8425EE18236 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A55E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478BE34AC033 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB4A34AC030 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22036 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 19:27:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Leica X1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:27:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca48a6128472439112457 My only thought on seeing the announcement was that it's very plain and even a bit ugly. Chuck Norcutt Jez Cunningham wrote: > Alongside all the hoop-la about the M9 I didn't see much reaction to > the X1 - is it a u4/3 challenger? > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp > br > jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:28:30 2009 Received: (qmail 1752 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:28:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:28:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4129E182A3 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9A4E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D7F34AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45B934AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22911 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 19:28:23 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 19:28:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA48D6.8060905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:28:22 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:28:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca48de37741234514069 That's the M9 that sells for less than my target price of $1,000 with lens? Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > I'd seriously look at the Panasonic G1 or GH1. Live -View that is miles > ahead of anything else and the viewfinder image is HUGE. > As BP says, M9... > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 21:40:09 2009 Received: (qmail 5815 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 19:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 19:40:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC48E181AC for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFAEE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286719EE2D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:40:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F9419EE2B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091005194001.IXCJ913.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:40:01 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id p7fz1c00X4Z9Gks027fzKc; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:40:00 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ybss8LRuAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=qz0S3ZgT5UrHv6iAkIoA:9 a=7x_Q6eMpsd6BPbA24XIA:7 a=6Ytmd3TooUr3uXmmRY7wSlPUSa8A:4 a=3zq07fkmrvEA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <88E32C6489DC425FB789E90982CCF695@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA48D6.8060905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 21:40:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca4b99270641744846740 Yeeahhhhhhhhhh, that's the ticket! Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism > That's the M9 that sells for less than my target price of $1,000 with > lens? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Ken Norton wrote: >> I'd seriously look at the Panasonic G1 or GH1. Live -View that is miles >> ahead of anything else and the viewfinder image is HUGE. >> As BP says, M9... >> >> AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2413 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:23:24 2009 Received: (qmail 14294 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:23:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:23:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F8AE18244 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA32E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A8434AC036 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B7234AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so3282611ywh.26 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.7 with SMTP id k7mr508481anp.164.1254774197819; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6195B9F6-0A96-47A1-A03C-0A30B368B692@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC9F27A.2090807@verizon.net> <6195B9F6-0A96-47A1-A03C-0A30B368B692@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:23:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca55bc265421220213263 2009/10/5 Chris Barker : > Well give me a shout and I might come with you, if you don't mind. =A0I > live around 20 minutes' drive from Old Warden; I just need the excuse > to hop over there with a camera ... OK - we could even have a UK ZA meeting, perhaps. Won't be until next year though, not if we want to see flying - they've just had their last flying display of the year. -- = Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:31:02 2009 Received: (qmail 6158 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:31:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D982E182A7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305D0E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA0619EE97 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7304619EE68 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6117 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2009 20:30:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:30:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:30:52 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:31:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca578677461357919056 f/128 - as if. Try f/240 @1/60th with a full power dump from the big Bowens... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 3:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Oh dear is rignt! I never thought about a pinhole's ability to reveal > dust. I normally only try to clean the sensor such that it looks > clean > at f/11 since I almost never shoot higher than that. f/16 is > sometimes > hard to achieve. f/128, well.... > > Chuck Norcutt > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Thanks for that - I agree of course. Somehow you don't seem to be >> able to get the same look, no matter how hard you work at it. The >> other thing a pinhole does is to reveal every single, miniscule mote >> of dust on your sensor! Oh dear. >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> >> >> On 05/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Dawid Loubser wrote: >> >>> Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and >>> cannot be replicated >>> (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:34:56 2009 Received: (qmail 23487 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:34:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:34:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C065E1829E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA78E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E63B34AC037 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0C934AC034 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3616965yxe.22 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.62.12 with SMTP id p12mr546894ank.71.1254774889075; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:34:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:34:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5870289041006886880 On the 3Ti the beep can be switched on/off by pressing battery check and switching the TTL/X flash switch simultaneously. (my beep is always off...) Iwert 2009/10/5 John Hermanson : > The 4Ti beep turn-off is around the self timer ring. =A0I don't think > there is such a switch on the 3Ti or at least I can't find it. =A0I > planned to sell through on these so was not intending to open to try and > fix. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson =A0| =A0 CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 =A0| =A0www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Charles Geilfuss wrote: >> =A0 I sold my OM-4T a long time ago , but IIRC the beeping function coul= d be >> turned on/ off. >> >> Charlie >> >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >>> It Beeps????? >>> >>> Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. >>> >>> $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! >>> >>> AG >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:43:36 2009 Received: (qmail 20152 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:43:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1591CE1824E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7861E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEE419EEDF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C0819EE57 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2851005bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.79 with SMTP id n15mr46412hba.107.1254775409284; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:43:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3fb728d3ab647e58 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:43:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5a78232847801554290 > > On the 3Ti the beep can be switched on/off by pressing battery check > and switching the TTL/X flash switch simultaneously. (my beep is > always off...) > Insert beeping sound to mask the expletives Bill is uttering right now. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:46:26 2009 Received: (qmail 26427 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:46:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF17E182A9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F370E3610003 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE3234AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:46:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7701 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2009 20:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:46:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840910051045t6a25c979n5dae2be294d8aacb@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <233BDA96-268A-4BA7-8284-93BD5C6C39BC@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:46:16 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Leica X1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:46:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5b22241961136683642 Only seen (not handled) a non-operational design prototype - don't expect it before Christmas. Image quality seems to defecate on the Sigma from a great height - or so they say. Effective 35mm on APS-C sensor, 12mp. Looks like a couple of the late film compacts. Someone said it was ugly? It's bloody gorgeous with the rounded end look harking back to the screw mount Leicas. 2.7" display with nice M9 style menus. Nothing was said about accessory lenses (and I asked - smile and shrug response) - couldn't tell if the lens ring screwed off to allow an adapter. But no finder (Grrr...) I'd expect it to cost around US$1.5K rrp. - I was told AU$2.5. Want one. Now. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 4:45 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Alongside all the hoop-la about the M9 I didn't see much reaction to > the X1 - is it a u4/3 challenger? > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp > br > jez > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 22:49:36 2009 Received: (qmail 27150 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 20:49:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 20:49:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF5EE18244 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778FCE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E4E34AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F35E3610003 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2855311bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:49:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.92 with SMTP id r28mr4363136bkw.121.1254775769123; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:49:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:49:29 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910051349y3708147n99ab6d96c9a33ffc@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 22:49:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5be078371234514069 Did the lovely lass get a sunburn from your rig? Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > f/128 - as if. Try f/240 @1/60th with a full power dump from the big > Bowens... > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/10/2009, at 3:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > > Oh dear is rignt! I never thought about a pinhole's ability to reveal > > dust. I normally only try to clean the sensor such that it looks > > clean > > at f/11 since I almost never shoot higher than that. f/16 is > > sometimes > > hard to achieve. f/128, well.... > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > > Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> Thanks for that - I agree of course. Somehow you don't seem to be > >> able to get the same look, no matter how hard you work at it. The > >> other thing a pinhole does is to reveal every single, miniscule mote > >> of dust on your sensor! Oh dear. > >> Andrew Fildes > >> afildes@people.net.au > >> > >> > >> > >> On 05/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Dawid Loubser wrote: > >> > >>> Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and > >>> cannot be replicated > >>> (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:00:20 2009 Received: (qmail 27634 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:00:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531A3E18256 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3978E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9935A19EDD4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AEF19EF52 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MuufB-00056G-Bj for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:00:09 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MuufA-0003T4-Sk for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:00:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACA5E5C.3020601@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:00:12 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <14883a8b0910051349y3708147n99ab6d96c9a33ffc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910051349y3708147n99ab6d96c9a33ffc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:00:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5e6430492013633067 Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Did the lovely lass get a sunburn from your rig? > > Charlie > > Fried to a crisp, Charlie, fried to a crisp... ;-) D. PS - she was fully clothed before he fired the lights... -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:03:51 2009 Received: (qmail 687 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:03:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAC2E1824D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C304FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21BF19EE98 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D49119EE90 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:03:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2865508bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.164 with SMTP id q36mr51809hbg.87.1254776623989; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:03:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910051349y3708147n99ab6d96c9a33ffc@mail.gmail.com> References: <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <14883a8b0910051349y3708147n99ab6d96c9a33ffc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:03:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b24389845ddf5c57 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:03:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca5f37183761006886880 > > Did the lovely lass get a sunburn from your rig? > talk about a hot flash -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:10:27 2009 Received: (qmail 11936 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:10:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6096DE18244 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF42FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283B19EEFF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8958319EE02 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:10:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14474 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 21:10:18 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:10:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca60c3324261879814018 Page 99 of the user's manual ------------------------------------------------- Q: How can I turn off the beep? A: Operate the flash mode lever while pressing the battery check button. You can also turn on the beep in the same way. ------------------------------------------------- Chuck Norcutt iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > On the 3Ti the beep can be switched on/off by pressing battery check > and switching the TTL/X flash switch simultaneously. (my beep is > always off...) > > Iwert > > 2009/10/5 John Hermanson : >> The 4Ti beep turn-off is around the self timer ring. I don't think >> there is such a switch on the 3Ti or at least I can't find it. I >> planned to sell through on these so was not intending to open to try and >> fix. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Charles Geilfuss wrote: >>> I sold my OM-4T a long time ago , but IIRC the beeping function could be >>> turned on/ off. >>> >>> Charlie >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >>> >>>> It Beeps????? >>>> >>>> Honestly, I don't think I've ever noticed. >>>> >>>> $950 is still a non-beeping bargain! >>>> >>>> AG >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:21:53 2009 Received: (qmail 765 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:21:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E1E181B1 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1A2E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5AE34AC034 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A31C34AC033 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n95LLeN9012029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:21:40 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c1c.6531a5fa (37056) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.99]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB042-d3de4aca635329a; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:21:34 -0400 Received: from webmail-d072 (webmail-d072.sim.aol.com [205.188.167.106]) by smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC038-d3de4aca635329a; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:21:23 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:21:23 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.106) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:21:22 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC1418EC56FDCB-48F4-1DCD8@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] OM to Sony alpha adapter-- f/u X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:21:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca6371213371342116753 Bah, As promised, I pinged my favorite oddball adapter fabricator: Technical advisor at Srb Griturn took another look. As Tim observed, the diameters of the OM and Alpha bayonets are almost identical and no easy way to have OM lens turn in the alpha throat turn and be able construct a latch/stopdown mechanism. Srb doesn't think it is a viable option. Would take some fancy engineering if it is even possible at all w/o mucking up the Sony. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:25:45 2009 Received: (qmail 7776 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:25:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19385E181A8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B119CE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9628E34AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBBB34AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091005212539.EXXG11036.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:25:39 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id p9Re1c0024Z9Gks029RePy; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:25:38 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QsKaGf5cKUEA:10 a=hvvTdmKEV-g9dIrzZWkA:9 a=4FMAOhcn1KdtLg1a3sJ9D3Bc1gQA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <426982.3957.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:25:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:25:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca645959536789618724 Just read of the loss of Marty Forscher. He could probably take the bayonet off a Sony and replace with an OM bayonet. There's something to think about! Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:30:55 2009 Received: (qmail 20428 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:30:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC77BE182AC for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A6EE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26AF34AC02E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D1634AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30869 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 21:30:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:30:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca658f98921136683642 Ah, it's just another couple of stops. :-) Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > f/128 - as if. Try f/240 @1/60th with a full power dump from the big > Bowens... > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/10/2009, at 3:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Oh dear is rignt! I never thought about a pinhole's ability to reveal >> dust. I normally only try to clean the sensor such that it looks >> clean >> at f/11 since I almost never shoot higher than that. f/16 is >> sometimes >> hard to achieve. f/128, well.... >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> Thanks for that - I agree of course. Somehow you don't seem to be >>> able to get the same look, no matter how hard you work at it. The >>> other thing a pinhole does is to reveal every single, miniscule mote >>> of dust on your sensor! Oh dear. >>> Andrew Fildes >>> afildes@people.net.au >>> >>> >>> >>> On 05/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Dawid Loubser wrote: >>> >>>> Very nicely done, Andrew. The pinhole look sure is different, and >>>> cannot be replicated >>>> (IMHO) by doctoring an image taken through a lens. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:32:06 2009 Received: (qmail 9516 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:32:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3303EE182A0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D9EE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15CB34AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E58934AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1067419fga.8 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.212 with SMTP id m20mr46939hbh.209.1254778319755; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACA60B9.5040401@chucknorcutt.com> References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> <4ACA60B9.5040401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:31:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94352c0926d12469 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:32:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca65d6309141357919056 > > Page 99 of the user's manual > Page 99? Hmm. How in the world can you have a 99 page user guide on a MANUAL CAMERA? AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:34:50 2009 Received: (qmail 8864 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:34:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:34:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C8AE18256 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6645E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FEA19F01C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E56619F01B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3378610fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr53352hbh.61.1254778479798; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:34:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <426982.3957.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:34:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 931c7650bd24548d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_03/10/2009=3A_Saturday_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:34:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca667a227311612113968 > > Just read of the loss of Marty Forscher. He could probably take the bayonet > off a Sony and replace with an OM bayonet. There's something to think > about! > That's what I was stewing on. Of course, it would preclude ever using Sony/Minolta lenses and it would do wonders to the resale value of the camera, but it makes some sense. RIP Marty Forscher. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:39:21 2009 Received: (qmail 23836 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:39:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE637E18214 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DD8E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F59F3610001 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825934AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091005213915.HCQN19505.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:39:15 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id p9fE1c00L4Z9Gks029fE70; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:39:14 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lBk4WWe7GZYHB7S1y3oA:9 a=fcJ7qUROf2pTbIi87XIWjctQWbYA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <426982.3957.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:39:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] OM mount sony? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:39:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca6789237171258626592 > That's what I was stewing on. Of course, it would preclude ever using > Sony/Minolta lenses and it would do wonders to the resale value of the > camera, but it makes some sense. Who cares? There are the Zeiss lenses, but that program seems to be beached like a dead whale, still no more. I would probably buy one, if I had the $$ Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Oct 5 23:57:19 2009 Received: (qmail 26229 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 21:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 21:57:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA01E18244 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12178E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E684634AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2CF34AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18733 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 21:57:11 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 21:57:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA6BB6.2090207@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:57:10 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8E52F.7080401@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC99B0B.5090102@sfr.fr> <760EE022-0125-43C5-A54E-645747224BC1@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <760EE022-0125-43C5-A54E-645747224BC1@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Pentamirror vs. pentaprism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 5 23:57:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca6bbe250851234514069 A 14mm lens at f/5.6 on a 4/3 sensor is at hyperfocal distance at 7 feet. At 18mm and f/8 you get hyperfocal at 8 feet. At 25mm and f/11 you get hyperfocal at 11-1/4 feet. At 25mm and f/11 you can even focus as close as 7 feet and get everything in focus from about 4-1/3 to 18 feet. Just pre-focus manually at an appropriate distance and apply enough flash and ISO boost and forget about focusing. I have used the Mynolta A1 to shoot in areas so dark that I can hardly see the subject let alone have the camera be able to focus. But the short focal length on small sensor cameras leads to great depth of field which we can make use of with hyperfocal methods and enough auxiliary light. I remember the first time I tried it I got much better results on the A1 than my partner shooting with a 20D... which also couldn't see to focus very well. Dr Focus, alter ego of Dr. Flash Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yup - trying to shoot moving dancers by flash in a restaurant - it > couldn't lock on quickly enough. Th task became impossible. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/10/2009, at 6:06 PM, Philippe Amard wrote: > >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >> >>> And the shutter lag... >>> >>> >> Is there any? >> Your experience? >> Phx > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 00:00:09 2009 Received: (qmail 11182 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 22:00:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 22:00:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23078E181CD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12420E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6B234AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933734AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20556 invoked by uid 504); 5 Oct 2009 21:59:54 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2009 21:59:54 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACA6C5A.6060701@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:59:54 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> <4ACA60B9.5040401@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091004-0, 10/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 00:00:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca6c69300892013633067 Check it out. It's 112 pages. Guess you haven't read it, eh? :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> Page 99 of the user's manual >> > > > Page 99? Hmm. How in the world can you have a 99 page user guide on a > MANUAL CAMERA? > > AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 00:38:58 2009 Received: (qmail 3848 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2009 22:38:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Oct 2009 22:38:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389B9E18212 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B5E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E2B19EFA4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF8319ED60 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3416328fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:38:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.143 with SMTP id t15mr63143hbt.92.1254782331647; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:38:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACA6C5A.6060701@chucknorcutt.com> References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> <4ACA60B9.5040401@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA6C5A.6060701@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:38:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f081ee73ad46e57e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 00:38:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca7582315379752976205 > > Check it out. It's 112 pages. Guess you haven't read it, eh? :-) > Uhhhhhhhhhhh.............. AG (one bad) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 02:56:59 2009 Received: (qmail 13306 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 00:56:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 00:56:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E8AE181CB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF297E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A634AC033 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D07534AC024 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n960ujAx030507 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:56:45 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.ca6.4f3d9898 (29672) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:57:36 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 02:56:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aca95db67751946193717 In a message dated 10/5/2009 3:43:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Insert beeping sound to mask the expletives Bill is uttering right now. Wasn't no stinking manual with the camera. Now the real story. It really doesn't matter, does it. Who, 100 years from now, will be around that cares. It is just money. So are so many other things on my list of what is important, that I choose to not worry or be upset by this thing. I look forward to getting the beeping OM 3Ti in my hands. Hey it might not be as valuable as the other one, as the non-beeping one is the one that fooled the master. That should be worth something. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 04:30:09 2009 Received: (qmail 14149 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 02:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 02:30:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1535CE1822D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0460FE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC43734AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:30:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5198434AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:30:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13555 invoked by uid 504); 6 Oct 2009 02:29:59 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091005-0, 10/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 04:30:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaabb1185681006886880 Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able to focus an OM again. :-) The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 04:35:25 2009 Received: (qmail 25347 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 02:35:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 02:35:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555A6E18039 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BC3E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC88534AC034 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891C734AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0110.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0110.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495236383A5; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0205.4a81ece1.a21b89f; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKyqzo4RFgywIAAAAC,50cea339016e508d00b30e1a2f7c4a2a X-Vipre-Scanned: 1EC52EE60015371EC53033-TDI Message-ID: <4ACAACE8.5050308@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:35:20 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion , Chuck Norcutt References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 04:35:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaaced170001006886880 Best of luck! Jim Couch Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 04:37:34 2009 Received: (qmail 22539 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 02:37:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 02:37:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D8EE182A7 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F4EE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F6F34AC032 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0721834AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (lostkase@bellsouth.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpd220 (adsl-241-32-167.sdf.bellsouth.net[74.241.32.167]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20091006023729H0600nvpdne>; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:37:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.241.32.167] Message-ID: <099AAD83EB6341B5B315AFFF11C4D46E@hpd220> From: "Bob Docherty" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:37:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 04:37:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaad6e57681006886880 Good luck and well wishes. I hope for a speedy recovery for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 04:56:12 2009 Received: (qmail 3252 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 02:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 02:56:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C520E1822E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8103E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FE734AC032 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86F634AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.172]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n962u4Zf026111 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:56:05 +1100 Message-Id: <200910060256.n962u4Zf026111@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:56:04 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:56:04 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 04:56:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acab1cc198755683411216 Best of luck for the op and recovery Chuck ! ...Wayne > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 04:58:39 2009 Received: (qmail 13421 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 02:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 02:58:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B906E181CD for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2801BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD211CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:58:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102B1CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:58:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.172]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n962wW2j029581 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:58:33 +1100 Message-Id: <200910060258.n962wW2j029581@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:58:32 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:58:32 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 04:58:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acab25f206101357919056 > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. Steel - didn't you opt for the Ti version ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 05:13:04 2009 Received: (qmail 19217 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 03:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 03:13:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9401AE18279 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA794E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BFA34AC02F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:12:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E0C34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:12:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3263 invoked by uid 502); 6 Oct 2009 03:12:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.73.108.52) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 03:12:57 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACAB5B6.8000707@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:12:54 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACA8FC9.12804.1107777@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4ACA8FC9.12804.1107777@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 05:13:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acab5c0321752439112457 Brian Swale wrote: > > My question: why don't you use silver oxide SR44 batteries in the OMs? My understanding is they are the best. > There are two major battery numbering systems. Add to that the fact that early high drain batteries were more prone to leakage than the original, low drain designs - and thus anathema to watch makers. Originally, the SR44 and 303 were the same battery, although details of performance might differ with brand. Then with the advent of high drain, one system simply added a suffix, SR44W, while the other system added new numbers for the HD designs, in this case, 357. In most parts of the world, the SR44(W) is the choice. In North America (and ??) it was the 357 - until Energizer started messing things up. Many batteries, such as the Sonys, are simply labeled with both numbers and specify High Drain, to avoid confusion. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 05:22:33 2009 Received: (qmail 25151 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 03:22:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 03:22:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BEBE18228 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70DE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7730D1CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2531CD481 for ; 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(moose@72.73.108.52) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 04:15:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:15:47 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 06:15:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acac47e61491258626592 Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Moose. I like that Moosification better than most, but there are still some bits about my result that I prefer. > Quick and lazy job. I'm working on the laptop, which doesn't (yet) have CS3, so is missing my most used selection tool. So I didn't mask the effects that were primarily aimed at the highlights/water. I've now done a somewhat better version. Donald, I find it easy to align the images in the Singapore gallery to allow switching back and forth seamlessly with the Alt-arrow keys. However, as requested, the new version is a roll-over. > However, I do like the richness of the colour that you have brought out. Would you mind sharing your secret (again, perhaps). > - Shadow/Highlight, probably much as Chuck used it. - Brightness/Contrast, -11, -11. Yes, I know, that makes it look worse for the moment. -LCE, 30, 50, 0 -Curves - Mask to limit the effect of the above on the rocks/dark parts. I know it may seem I must have kicked up the saturation, but no, I didn't. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 06:59:23 2009 Received: (qmail 32187 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 04:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 04:59:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6F1E18255 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B34E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A351CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF431CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB7D31408B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536CE314089 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACACEAD.9070804@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:59:25 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 10/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 06:59:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaceab221331560218263 > > Mike, I like this one better than the one you did of that tiny green frog !. Thanks for the kind words all. Fernando, you remember the frog? That was the 80 on the OM4t. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:01:16 2009 Received: (qmail 3495 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:01:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE3EE181CB for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AB8E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3DE1CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BC11CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E5431408B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A24D314089 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACACF1C.9030605@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:01:16 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 10/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:01:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acacf1c256951234514069 Thanks for the warnings. looks like the Renatas are the best deal now. both price and performance. I'll order some and see how they work. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:13:59 2009 Received: (qmail 19103 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:13:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FD2E181BA for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4C5E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623D1CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140C21CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3905 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 05:13:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:13:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <8B080C2C-9760-4876-A26E-6DEF72EBE34E@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:13:46 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:13:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad217288321413256596 Oh, goooood luck! ;-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 1:29 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches > this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be > able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while > before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:20:28 2009 Received: (qmail 125 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:20:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35526E1824D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FFDE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62A34AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:20:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EAD34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:20:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5767 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 05:20:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:20:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACA6588.3020607@chucknorcutt.com> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA6588.3020607@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <786DA94D-3E01-4686-A2FA-320EC5CAC040@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:20:17 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:20:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad39c60047801554290 Yeah, right. That's the full dump from a Bowens 3K Quadmatic floor pack at about 4-5ft. She hasn't complained about sunburn...but she did squeak the first time it went off. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 8:30 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Ah, it's just another couple of stops. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> f/128 - as if. Try f/240 @1/60th with a full power dump from the big >> Bowens... >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:32:46 2009 Received: (qmail 27072 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:32:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0E5E182A0 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ACEE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40D1CD487 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7781CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:32:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63948461592 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:59:06 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:32:38 +0100 Message-Id: <92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:32:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad67e181221879814018 Thanks, Moose. That helps with looking at some of my other images. Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 05:15, Moose wrote: >> >> However, I do like the richness of the colour that you have brought >> out. Would you mind sharing your secret (again, perhaps). >> > > - Shadow/Highlight, probably much as Chuck used it. > > - Brightness/Contrast, -11, -11. Yes, I know, that makes it look worse > for the moment. > > -LCE, 30, 50, 0 > > -Curves > > - Mask to limit the effect of the above on the rocks/dark parts. > > I know it may seem I must have kicked up the saturation, but no, I > didn't. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:41:22 2009 Received: (qmail 17681 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:41:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20678E181B9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C596E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADB21CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:41:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6511CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:41:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C36461531 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:07:43 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:41:16 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:41:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad882251171234514069 The very best of luck to you, Chuck. I hope that they look after you properly in those expensive places :-) Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 03:29, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while > before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:42:21 2009 Received: (qmail 10964 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:42:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFD1E18236 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42341E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EA834AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D466F34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1290E461606 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:43 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:42:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <49BFED99-85BC-470C-BC45-6F9B95455666@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:42:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad8bd2376107113666 Great, Fernando! Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 04:37, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > > > > > I name it Concordance. > > tripod mounted Zuiko 85~250mm =83/5 @ =83/11, OM 4 on MultiSpot reading > mode, Winder2, Eyecup1. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:43:19 2009 Received: (qmail 1965 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:43:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:43:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3E4E18277 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB749E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3001CD48D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:43:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455841CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:43:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC78461531 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:09:29 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <8B080C2C-9760-4876-A26E-6DEF72EBE34E@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:43:02 +0100 Message-Id: <952A496B-708D-4186-A38B-1F95010600DA@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> <8B080C2C-9760-4876-A26E-6DEF72EBE34E@people.net.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:43:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad8f7172644877110844 Yes, I wouldn't try travelling as much as Andrew did .. Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 06:13, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Oh, goooood luck! ;-) > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:44:38 2009 Received: (qmail 9175 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:44:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF6BE18246 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7E2E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA0B1CD487 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7EE1CD486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:44:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3568367fxm.37 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:44:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.81 with SMTP id y17mr281004fau.68.1254807870411; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:44:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:44:30 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910052244j53ab56bdwbc4f3856f45cf10c@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:44:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad946217995034211378 Well, pixel peeping (not too much in fact ... ) this version is much more accurate. Built a new transillumantion device to judge color accuracy better - not an 80A, but a 500 limen 'solar' General Electric behind a white diffuser. Keep learning ... Velvia is awesome !. So you would have two fortresses to choose :) Fernando. 2009/10/6 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile : > > Well, the Rubicon has been crossed: thus, I dedicate this fortress to you. > > > > I name it Concordance. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:47:14 2009 Received: (qmail 30418 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:47:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5104E18039 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50656E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447D934AC029 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018E634AC028 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4093D46153B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:13:35 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACA481F.9020201@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:47:08 +0100 Message-Id: <6979DA7A-19E6-486F-BD16-ECD3B96C8884@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACA481F.9020201@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT -- Panny LX3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:47:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acad9e21616789618724 It's a bit of an experiment on my part, Chuck. I rarely use the long end of my G7, so I am working on the assumption that 60 is long enough for portraits of the students. I use my G7 to take photos of students when they have achieved something important with flying, such as First Solo etc ... I think that 60 will be long enough to eliminate most facial distortion. Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 20:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I'm jealous. But I'm not really sure I could get on with just 60mm > equivalent on the long end. But I sure like the 24mm short end. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:48:25 2009 Received: (qmail 1568 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:48:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED279E1829F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30CAE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A2534AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:48:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919EA34AC02A for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:48:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A6746153B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:32 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:48:05 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4AC9F27A.2090807@verizon.net> <6195B9F6-0A96-47A1-A03C-0A30B368B692@threeshoes.net> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] New Photos - taken with an actual OM-4 and in Black & White. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:48:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acada29112702517112723 That sounds like a rough plan ... Chris On 5 Oct 2009, at 21:23, Ian Nichols wrote: > 2009/10/5 Chris Barker : >> Well give me a shout and I might come with you, if you don't mind. I >> live around 20 minutes' drive from Old Warden; I just need the excuse >> to hop over there with a camera ... > > OK - we could even have a UK ZA meeting, perhaps. Won't be until next > year though, not if we want to see flying - they've just had their > last flying display of the year. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 07:53:13 2009 Received: (qmail 3229 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 05:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 05:53:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC8CE181D8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2E4E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4BC1CD487 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CCC1CD481 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:53:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3077385bwz.14 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:53:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.20.210 with SMTP id g18mr319973fab.9.1254808386845; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:53:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49BFED99-85BC-470C-BC45-6F9B95455666@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> <49BFED99-85BC-470C-BC45-6F9B95455666@threeshoes.net> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:53:06 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910052253y1bb39341k6516eeda0c527c07@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 07:53:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acadb49111631073733319 Thanks for looking and commenting, Chris :-) Glad you liked it. Take a look at the second version - much better - my new transilluminator bionic machine shall be patented soon ;^) !!. Fernando. 2009/10/6 Chris Barker : > Great, Fernando! > > Chris > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 08:11:22 2009 Received: (qmail 7852 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 06:11:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 06:11:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CC7E1822B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC6BE240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859C34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:11:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB0834AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:11:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17845 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 06:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 06:11:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6979DA7A-19E6-486F-BD16-ECD3B96C8884@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACA481F.9020201@chucknorcutt.com> <6979DA7A-19E6-486F-BD16-ECD3B96C8884@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <41DDE343-E1D4-4A21-9806-51D301C57500@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:11:11 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT -- Panny LX3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 08:11:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acadf8a296371258626592 Except in 3-4g turns... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 4:47 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > I think that 60 will be long enough to eliminate most > facial distortion. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 08:17:42 2009 Received: (qmail 24525 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 06:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 06:17:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ABDE1822E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A25E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99D34AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9534AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18407 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 06:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.144.152) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 06:17:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net> References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> <92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:31 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Come on down... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 08:17:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acae105245781357919056 ...after all, what's so good about bloody Norway? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 08:38:21 2009 Received: (qmail 30056 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 06:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 06:38:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7394BE182A5 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89821E240B4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794F534AC027 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DB034AC025 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3980202yxe.22 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:38:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.134.36 with SMTP id l36mr1009940ann.133.1254811094137; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:38:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CC1418EC56FDCB-48F4-1DCD8@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC1418EC56FDCB-48F4-1DCD8@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:38:14 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OM to Sony alpha adapter-- f/u X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 08:38:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acae5dd258275683411216 Mike, would it be possible to take the alpha mount out and replace it with an OM-mount? (that would do away with the horrid orange ring as well :). It should just be 6 screws? I suppose that sticking out lever can be hidden inside the extra thickness of the OM-moun? YouI wouldn't use AF glass anyway... would you? Iwert 2009/10/5 : > Bah, > As promised, I pinged my favorite oddball adapter fabricator: > Technical advisor at Srb Griturn took another look. =A0As Tim observed, > the diameters of the OM and Alpha bayonets are almost identical > and no easy way to have OM lens turn in the alpha throat turn and =A0be > able construct a latch/stopdown mechanism. =A0Srb doesn't think it is a > viable option. > Would take some fancy engineering if it is even =A0possible at all w/o > mucking up the Sony. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 09:21:19 2009 Received: (qmail 5137 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 07:21:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 07:21:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DBAE182A8 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198AEE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EDF19D946 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7346C19D93E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com (mail-ew0-f219.google.com [209.85.219.219]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3665689ewy.28 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:21:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.10.15 with SMTP id 15mr238184weu.165.1254813671380; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:21:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <809EB3C0C1B148C5AEB62722B8DE911B@home> <9f07ac840910051032h54fd3bf3h6eb6d38453c8e695@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:21:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6a165cb37cb2777 Message-ID: <9f07ac840910060021g2b0fc0eexf88ac742e4b5fcfa@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] DrT's news (Mil-spec(?) Olympus) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 09:21:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaefef48016789618724 Ah yes, NO PICTURES thanks you... :-) On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Well I trust that, according to tradition, you'll be running naked. >> The Fuji will be handy to keep some decency... >> > > > The Fuji is a 3D camera. > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 09:28:25 2009 Received: (qmail 31246 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 07:28:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 07:28:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1579E181B1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6480E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B330634AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA8734AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 00:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7314615B8 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:54:44 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <41DDE343-E1D4-4A21-9806-51D301C57500@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:28:17 +0100 Message-Id: <6A3DC989-76FA-4685-9EE3-BFC80011A5B1@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACA481F.9020201@chucknorcutt.com> <6979DA7A-19E6-486F-BD16-ECD3B96C8884@threeshoes.net> <41DDE343-E1D4-4A21-9806-51D301C57500@people.net.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT -- Panny LX3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 09:28:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acaf19976936107113666 Heh! I had a video of me in the centrifuge at Holloman AFB pulling various g between 6 and 9 ... ... that looked strange, but our sons loved it :-) Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 07:11, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Except in 3-4g turns... > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 10:29:58 2009 Received: (qmail 21100 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 08:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 08:29:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7813BE181CF for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31414E240B4 for ; 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Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Mv5ah-0007HU-Oy for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:40:15 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Mv5ah-0004eG-9S for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:40:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACB026D.7060803@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:40:13 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Waterfalls, was Velvia Mood X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 10:40:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb0276276211258626592 Moose wrote: > > > Donald, I find it easy to align the images in the Singapore gallery to > allow switching back and forth seamlessly with the Alt-arrow keys. > However, as requested, the new version is a roll-over. > > Now that looks more like the water in the Falls of Dochart that I remember! Actually, I prefer it to the original, maybe with a bit of backing off (but not a lot). Ta much, Moose. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 10:41:26 2009 Received: (qmail 23544 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 08:41:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 08:41:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5024CE18039 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EC4E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA1934AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:41:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50C534AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103.ctimail.com [61.93.57.254]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n968fJ4u011690 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:41:19 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n968fJHm014433 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:41:19 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:41:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 10:41:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb02b6286345368819438 Good luck, with best wishes! C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 10:46:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23325 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 08:46:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 08:46:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536B4E1822C for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50FFE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E2B34AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:46:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240B034AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:46:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv5ge-0007Km-0B for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:46:25 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com><4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com><92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net> <953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:46:12 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 thread-index: AcpGTLdJbJggvPZEQRK95E3oWVjvKQAFJ7IQ X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 10:46:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb03ea135821220213263 .... But why settle for second best? Piers -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: 06 October 2009 07:18 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Come on down... ...after all, what's so good about bloody Norway? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 10:47:46 2009 Received: (qmail 24470 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DC3E18245 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A74E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6A234AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C942D34AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:47:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Mv5ht-00087G-2B for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:47:41 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Mv5hm-0001yT-FK for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:47:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACB0425.8050103@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:47:33 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 10:47:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb0432306447801554290 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt That's quite an overhaul. Best of luck, mate. You'll be skipping over those dunes counting sand grains in no time. Just don't rush it! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 11:24:17 2009 Received: (qmail 21836 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 09:24:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 09:24:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22915E181CD for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B4AE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73D934AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:24:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336C434AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:24:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 02:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20222 invoked by uid 504); 6 Oct 2009 09:24:09 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jez Cunningham [mailto:jez@cunningham.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 7:30 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries from UK > > FYI... > > I just received today some SR44s I ordered 8 days ago from > www.cheaperbatteries.co.uk in Reading, England. > 4 for 10 plus 2 p&p. > They are marked SR44SW. > br > jez > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 12:30:11 2009 Received: (qmail 29060 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 10:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 10:30:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200EE18214 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60021E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C14319E2C7 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:30:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7004C19E2C5 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:30:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv7Ix-00079Q-TH for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:30:04 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:29:53 +0100 Message-ID: <7235BD0012F44634B891B03EF1C08673@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 thread-index: AcpGLO/Zstj0M6pfQh2l93ladp/cGAAQubDg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 12:30:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb1c33151395683411216 Take it easy - and just make sure they put the new ones on the right way round, Chuck. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] Sent: 06 October 2009 03:30 To: Olympus mail list Subject: [OM] Return of the bionic man Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able to focus an OM again. :-) The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 12:32:45 2009 Received: (qmail 6515 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 10:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 10:32:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B328DE18214 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75735E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6369819E2EB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8C819E2E1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv7LR-0007sc-Ap for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:32:37 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <872227.34407.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ACA1E10.4090507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:32:18 +0100 Message-ID: <69D17A10DFBC4EA99F76281E0286081F@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4ACA1E10.4090507@chucknorcutt.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 thread-index: AcpF2Iy+DDy2CLNjTyqdD5/+J9UpQwAl2ZkA X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 12:32:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb1ccd48721006886880 Amen! Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] Sent: 05 October 2009 17:26 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Yet another printer tread... I too have given up trying to print anything except an occasional small print or two that I'd like to have right now. The lab does a much better job and at a much lower price. And that's the real reason I haven't bought a large printer. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> My venerable Canon 900 printer finally was put to rest. >> > --snip -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 12:40:02 2009 Received: (qmail 3621 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 10:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 10:40:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB0EE18277 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9A1E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E46F34AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:39:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBF034AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from extmail-01.people.net.au (extmail-01.people.net.au [202.154.123.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16058 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 10:39:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 12:40:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb1e82191681413256596 Norway?!!!! Skis, herring and it's coooold! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 7:46 PM, Piers Hemy wrote: > .... But why settle for second best? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] > Sent: 06 October 2009 07:18 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] Come on down... > > ...after all, what's so good about bloody Norway? > of-life-20091005-gjej.html> > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 13:07:27 2009 Received: (qmail 5441 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 11:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 11:07:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C0CE18214 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E36E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508B319E455 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:07:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC46C19E462 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:49599 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Mv7sG-00045I-Ap (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:07:15 +0000 From: Nathan Wajsman Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:06:31 +0200 Message-Id: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 13:07:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb24ef96819752976205 Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 13:28:29 2009 Received: (qmail 11796 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 11:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 11:28:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0CFE181A3 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D42BE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A85834AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA0F34AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com (mail-ew0-f219.google.com [209.85.219.219]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3841263ewy.28 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.56.82 with SMTP id l60mr265458wec.27.1254828503405; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:28:23 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cdb992091c0f376b Message-ID: <9f07ac840910060428h5b771303oc609ee65dc78fa85@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 13:28:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb29dd214331342116753 Are you still here? jez On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. > > This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:21:22 2009 Received: (qmail 1442 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:21:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE2EE182AC for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9EFE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867D19EB84 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:21:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013C719EB1E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.126] (126.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.126]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064103DB7C9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:21:11 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:21:12 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACBED08.14795.C31028@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] ( OM ) OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:21:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb3642286081413256596 Hi all, I've just been trying to do some on-line shopping at two NY stores, and get this kind of response ... > Shipping department will be closed for the Succoth Holiday from Friday, > October 2 at 1:00pm, and will reopen on Monday, October 12 at 9:00am. What on earth is Succoth (or, as spelled somewhere, Succos) holiday? Never heard of it before. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:22:34 2009 Received: (qmail 26016 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:22:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED465E1824C for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D64E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B678B34AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B6C34AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rbinnj@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.45] ([72.79.15.231]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR300IVCED1J3A0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB3672.9080003@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:22:10 -0400 From: Russ Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:22:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb368a209531342116753 Best of luck Chuck, and a speedy recovery. You are a brave man in my book. Russ Butler Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:23:59 2009 Received: (qmail 3208 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:23:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577B7E18200 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6D6E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1B334AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD4634AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3007T4EFQY986@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:23:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB36D8.4070401@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:23:52 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:23:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb36df43699752976205 which sold immediately to another list member. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html John Hermanson wrote: > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > features are affected). Same price $950. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:31:13 2009 Received: (qmail 16935 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:31:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDA0E18246 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379DCE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2288534AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D635D34AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:31:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR300ILGER2ZAHA@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB3871.40302@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:30:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-reply-to: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:31:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb3891303251560218263 The body is on it's way back from Bill Barber. I have a Visa card on file for you, ends in 6550, expires 11/10, ccv code 313. If you like, I can use this to pay for the body. let me know ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Don Holbrook wrote: > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Hermanson > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > > features are affected). Same price $950. > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:33:00 2009 Received: (qmail 28227 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:32:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:32:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DD9E18256 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC7CE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C19434AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:32:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718CE34AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:49814 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Mv9Dn-0006Fp-KG (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:32:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <4ACBED08.14795.C31028@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:32:50 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4ACBED08.14795.C31028@bj.caverock.net.nz> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:33:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb38fc196881006886880 http://www.chabad.org/generic_cdo/aid/984606/jewish/Sukkot-Simchat-Torah.htm Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 6, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just been trying to do some on-line shopping at two NY stores, > and get > this kind of response ... > >> Shipping department will be closed for the Succoth Holiday from >> Friday, >> October 2 at 1:00pm, and will reopen on Monday, October 12 at 9:00am. > > What on earth is Succoth (or, as spelled somewhere, Succos) holiday? > Never heard of it before. > > Brian Swale. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 14:43:21 2009 Received: (qmail 31249 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 12:43:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 12:43:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C61E1822E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307D2E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141C619F610 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:43:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DA319F609 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 05:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3007IFFBRY9B6@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB3B5A.5010300@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:43:06 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 14:43:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb3b69245912439112457 I'm very sorry Ken, I had to do this based on when emails came in. Sorry to have to tell you that this body sold to someone else within a few minutes of me mentioning it to the list, and more than an hour from me updating my site. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: >> I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. >> > > > Whahoo!!! We have a winner! > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:03:06 2009 Received: (qmail 29925 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:03:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:03:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5B2E182A3 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537C9E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F1B19F64F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC54C19DF54 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 45580 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2009 13:03:00 -0000 Message-ID: <181054.44855.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fFqJ.T4VM1kr42Dd9FlSwTM6ClljJbc2wv59GQyfDdxtJDu5tOh7kmZ7mTiSEw53DbfPCIzH2WFU14YrmxG8Cvl89ii0hEzeH24dclgsxz8dj9rsoiTmDU2m4w4iKqMBYTQ4Jnk3ID8QvoWGuPipI0.JSoDoizdG4kLTVPSsh1PHwwfsXvtWP8rTJFiJlpNygjPueIDnIlqZQmg6Tbh4ss3yFZUWxS.TMzMc6XvgPsyf6GLj.Sg5N2xFIhDDYqj6WjYbN3i0chlL3mITVWj1EQwRlGR80.bnixy_JoiPTTNQPiaZm9A5_nXoNtGsHeyX3iBkDAjfz4Q- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:03:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4ACAACE8.5050308@spokeandsprocket.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:03:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb400a308141234514069 Good luck! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:16:20 2009 Received: (qmail 10130 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:16:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1EE1822B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF872E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2E634AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A77034AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:50042 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Mv9tf-00017X-2P (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:16:08 +0000 From: Nathan Wajsman Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:16:01 +0200 Message-Id: To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Oktoberfest 2009 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:16:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4324282101950411718 No, I did not go to Munich. About 60 km north of Alicante is the town of Calpe. It has a large German population, with the requisite supporting infrastructure: school, supermarkets, a newspaper, many bars, and of course Oktoberfest every year. It may be smaller than the one in Munich but is pretty authentic, and the weather is a whole lot better. A few snaps, mostly B&W, from last Saturday, are here: http://www.frozenlight.eu/calpe2009 As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:27:45 2009 Received: (qmail 19475 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:27:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FAAE181CF for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F273E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19F419F6CA for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:27:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408B019F6B7 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:27:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3805914fxm.37 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:27:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr124356hbh.61.1254835656660; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:27:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACB3B5A.5010300@verizon.net> References: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4ACB3B5A.5010300@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:27:36 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 76d77131dbfc6e3a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:27:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb45d0253136789618724 John, Be aware that you've been replying to the list. Thanks for the Visa number. ;) AG On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:43 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > I'm very sorry Ken, I had to do this based on when emails came in. > Sorry to have to tell you that this body sold to someone else within a > few minutes of me mentioning it to the list, and more than an hour from > me updating my site. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:49:41 2009 Received: (qmail 15907 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:49:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:49:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92008E1822B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35352E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECBB34AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707DA34AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR300G1MIED6Z9B@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:49:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB4AE8.6050601@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:49:28 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:49:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4af559656107113666 wow, thank you very much Bill. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > There will be no disappointments with the beepless one. It is every bit > as nice as the photographs. John told me about its beeplessness before I > purchased and I actually never had an opportunity to install the new > batteries and run a roll of film through it, when he offered the same item with a > beep. So I sent him an offer to swap some cash and for him to send me some > beep. It all worked out well. John is a gentleman and a heck of a fine > entrepreneur. Always a pleasure doing business with a man of character and > most unpleasant when that is missing. That has never been missing in my > many transactions with John. Bill Barber > > > > In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:48:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > omtech1@verizon.net writes: > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > features are affected). Same price $950. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:54:50 2009 Received: (qmail 1974 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:54:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC27FE18200 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478BDE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1246034AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C178E34AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:54:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3007P3IN3V7A6@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:54:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB4C22.30407@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:54:42 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <18223DE9-29AD-41EA-A63B-AC4024A00A54@threeshoes.net> In-reply-to: <18223DE9-29AD-41EA-A63B-AC4024A00A54@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:54:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4c2a199539752976205 It has been an unusual and uplifting time. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Barker wrote: > I am very impressed that there has been so much goodwill about the > movement of 3Ti bodies. Ever since Ken received his kind donation > there have been good stories about 3Tis, well 2 anyway ... ;-) > > Well done, John. > > On 5 Oct 2009, at 18:30, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > >> There will be no disappointments with the beepless one. It is >> every bit >> as nice as the photographs. John told me about its beeplessness >> before I >> purchased and I actually never had an opportunity to install the new >> batteries and run a roll of film through it, when he offered the >> same item with a >> beep. So I sent him an offer to swap some cash and for him to send >> me some >> beep. It all worked out well. John is a gentleman and a heck of a >> fine >> entrepreneur. Always a pleasure doing business with a man of >> character and >> most unpleasant when that is missing. That has never been missing >> in my >> many transactions with John. Bill Barber >> >> >> >> In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:48:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> omtech1@verizon.net writes: >> >> During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to >> Bill >> had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot >> reading >> is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his >> camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since >> decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. >> >> So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but >> with >> an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not >> include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no >> other >> features are affected). Same price $950. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 15:57:29 2009 Received: (qmail 14283 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 13:57:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 13:57:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DA5E1829F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9DAE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1B534AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0595334AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MvAXY-0007Se-NA for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:57:20 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com><4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com><92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net><953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> <6BB77664-F3AB-4336-8E4A-B3E8E9EA9105@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <513BE8AAD979457CBD68B53162992B85@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpGcWAKunwSLBsyQzaGKelTuGWM9QAGWNIg In-Reply-To: <6BB77664-F3AB-4336-8E4A-B3E8E9EA9105@people.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 15:57:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4cc9130351612113968 Indeed, the home of the ski, excellent fish (we'll gloss over the hvalbiff which isn't fish, of course), and it's generally not too hot - though I did once find 36 Celsius to be a bit too much. = Hmm, and a state pension fund valued at about US$400bn for a population of about 5million. = But no red dust storms (can't have it all, I suppose!). And we won't mention the se=F1oritas (Spanish is not widely spoken). = Over to you ;-) Piers = -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] = Sent: 06 October 2009 11:40 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... Norway?!!!! Skis, herring and it's coooold! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/10/2009, at 7:46 PM, Piers Hemy wrote: > .... But why settle for second best? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] > Sent: 06 October 2009 07:18 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] Come on down... > > ...after all, what's so good about bloody Norway? > of-life-20091005-gjej.html> > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:00:23 2009 Received: (qmail 20390 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:00:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:00:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5C8E181D8 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779DE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC05334AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:00:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD0A34AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:00:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3834352fxm.37 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.89 with SMTP id c25mr121471hbg.156.1254837610200; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:00:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0b4d7136842627de Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:00:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4d77133633900897491 My life was getting too predictable, so we decided to get new cell phones. After five hours of trying to correct plans and billing issues, I think we have a break-through! I've been lulled into a false sense of security that my next bill will be lower than my mortgage payment. The adventure with Sprint has just begun all over again. Anyway, we got a pair of Palm Centros. The keyboard is extremely tiny and barely usable, but the phones meet and exceed our requirements. Most phones are too large these days and navigation is a bear. The Palm OS is a little better than average and the one serious selling point for the Palms is that they really sound good. Our last couple of phones didn't. I know, we could have gotten iPhones, but I'm not THAT rich. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:01:59 2009 Received: (qmail 32703 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:01:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C0CE18245 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AA8E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4555234AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475D34AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:50220 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MvAbm-0006Pe-2d (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:01:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <513BE8AAD979457CBD68B53162992B85@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:01:41 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4AC8A02A.7020406@chucknorcutt.com> <4AC8B065.9050602@gmail.com> <0EF7509A-A629-4319-B678-0C3C0A063FB3@threeshoes.net> <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com><4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com><92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net><953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> <6BB77664-F3AB-4336-8E4A-B3E8E9EA9105@people.net.au> <513BE8AAD979457CBD68B53162992B85@your9ya3hf92n3> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:01:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4dd766661879814018 I had one of my life's most pleasant se=F1orita encounters in Oslo a = long time ago. For sure you do not move to Norway for the climate, but other aspects = of life there are not bad. And as Piers points out, it is one of the = very few countries to use their oil wealth sensibly. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Piers Hemy wrote: > Indeed, the home of the ski, excellent fish (we'll gloss over the = > hvalbiff > which isn't fish, of course), and it's generally not too hot - = > though I did > once find 36 Celsius to be a bit too much. > > Hmm, and a state pension fund valued at about US$400bn for a = > population of > about 5million. > > But no red dust storms (can't have it all, I suppose!). > > And we won't mention the se=F1oritas (Spanish is not widely spoken). > > Over to you ;-) > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] > Sent: 06 October 2009 11:40 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... > > Norway?!!!! Skis, herring and it's coooold! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/10/2009, at 7:46 PM, Piers Hemy wrote: > >> .... But why settle for second best? >> >> Piers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] >> Sent: 06 October 2009 07:18 >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: [OM] Come on down... >> >> ...after all, what's so good about bloody Norway? >> > quality- >> of-life-20091005-gjej.html> >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:06:24 2009 Received: (qmail 13446 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:06:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:06:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395D5E182D8 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C725E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7158C34AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D3D34AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3008WRJ6IUD5F@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:06:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB4EDD.1010506@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:06:21 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <005701ca43ff$834689c0$89d39d40$@com> <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <14883a8b0910050814g6fc4b68dma6e34bed0892e9f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACA16B7.7010005@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:06:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4ee0202681076813867 DOH! but thank you for that. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: >> On the 3Ti the beep can be switched on/off by pressing battery check >> and switching the TTL/X flash switch simultaneously. (my beep is >> always off...) >> > > > Insert beeping sound to mask the expletives Bill is uttering right now. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:08:13 2009 Received: (qmail 24762 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5667E182D1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C06E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD0A1CD487 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743ED1CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (donholbrook@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pNgG1c0020SCNGk54S88M4; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:08:08 +0000 Received: from sz0029.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.79]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pS871c00V1iZpPQ3VS87lo; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:08:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:07:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Don Holbrook To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <332609335.2454551254838078107.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4ACB3871.40302@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [76.98.207.13] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (zclient/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:08:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4f4d286641744846740 That's fine. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hermanson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti The body is on it's way back from Bill Barber. I have a Visa card on file for you, ends in 6550, expires 11/10, ccv code 313. If you like, I can use this to pay for the body. let me know ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Don Holbrook wrote: > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Hermanson > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > > features are affected). Same price $950. > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:08:20 2009 Received: (qmail 8120 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:08:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:08:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940D5E1829F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7840AE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C61534AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E026634AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3002Y5J997BK9@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:07:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB4F40.7040206@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:08:00 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-reply-to: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:08:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4f5438681234514069 So your camera WILL have battery check beep, it was turned OFF !!! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Don Holbrook wrote: > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Hermanson > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > > features are affected). Same price $950. > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:08:31 2009 Received: (qmail 8221 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:08:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:08:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8FAE18245 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D251DE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C732A34AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A3334AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR300I0KJ9SMLVQ@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:08:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB4F53.6030403@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:08:19 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-reply-to: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:08:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb4f5f101721234514069 sorry, should have been private ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Don Holbrook wrote: > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Hermanson > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot reading > > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but with > > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no other > > features are affected). Same price $950. > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:11:06 2009 Received: (qmail 25724 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:11:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:11:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAA0E1822C for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D46E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D741CD487 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E991CD486 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MvAkW-0001F4-3R for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:10:44 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <8CC1418EC56FDCB-48F4-1DCD8@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpGT5nKfquytzKgSuiuU0aUBMPBnQAPwbtQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:13:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb506f153601413256596 nor have I (don't have one). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Check it out. It's 112 pages. Guess you haven't read it, eh? :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Ken Norton wrote: >>> Page 99 of the user's manual >>> >> >> Page 99? Hmm. How in the world can you have a 99 page user guide on a >> MANUAL CAMERA? >> >> AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:14:54 2009 Received: (qmail 31955 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:14:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:14:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAECE182B0 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A8CE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45691CD48D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117381CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MvAo9-0001fH-Be for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:14:29 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4ACB4F40.7040206@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:14:17 +0100 Message-ID: <962685226EC24A7EAD5DE9C544FEE9C2@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpGjnoG4dFJW0fXSkGL0ZJivJjZxAAAL9PQ In-Reply-To: <4ACB4F40.7040206@verizon.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091005-0, 05/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:14:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb50de298131560218263 Isn't the beep $500 extra? Piers -----Original Message----- From: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@verizon.net] Sent: 06 October 2009 15:08 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti So your camera WILL have battery check beep, it was turned OFF !!! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Don Holbrook wrote: > I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Hermanson > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > > > During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill > > had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot > reading > > is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his > > camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since > > decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. > > > > So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but > with > > an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not > > include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no > other > > features are affected). Same price $950. > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:15:54 2009 Received: (qmail 9027 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:15:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C93E182B9 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC5E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB26734AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6F934AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3004MIJLMZ0T6@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:15:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB50FD.3030008@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:15:25 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:15:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb511a263471612113968 Best of luck to you Chuck. My sister is getting a knee replaced in November. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:15:55 2009 Received: (qmail 10177 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:15:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB2AE18200 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C763BE240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F01CD48E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E046F1CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3349761bwz.14 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:14:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.162 with SMTP id c34mr133572hba.0.1254838498450; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:14:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <332609335.2454551254838078107.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4ACB3871.40302@verizon.net> <332609335.2454551254838078107.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:14:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59395213068bf9bb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:15:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb511b293231612113968 Congratulations Don Holbrook on the purchase of your new OM-3Ti. Hehehe. There are no secrets here on this list. :) AG (triple titanium and loving it) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 16:25:05 2009 Received: (qmail 8085 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 14:25:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 14:25:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC151E182A3 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD77E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B045034AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B4334AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:24:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3359408bwz.14 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:24:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.145 with SMTP id c17mr138368hba.14.1254839095089; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:24:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6760c9ab24e356d7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Another list thank you X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 16:25:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb5341172401744846740 A thank you to Piers for his generous donation and shipping of a battery-grip for the Minolta A1. I had stupidly sold mine two years ago and regretted that foolish decision. It's so much of a pleasure having the grip back on the A1 as it gives the camera the right shape and balance. Sometimes a camera can be too small. The A1/A2 with grip are as close to perfect shape and weight as a camera can be. The A1/A2 have "issues" when it comes to high-iso IQ and other foibles, but it remains one of the most usable cameras I've ever had. With the right RAW conversion, it actually holds its own IQ wise. Minolta did right with this camera design as it was their test-bed for the pro DSLR they were working on (D7D) and even has a number of features and capabilities not seen since. It remains THE camera I compare the new m4/3 cameras to and frankly, they all are still lagging--except in IQ. IQ of the new m4/3 cameras is better but the usability of the cameras have decreased. The A1/A2 really are professional DSLRs stuffed into a small package. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 17:08:01 2009 Received: (qmail 10642 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 15:08:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 15:08:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D05E182B0 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79425E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C121CD492 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282D11CD490 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR3000C1M0WKE16@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:07:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB5D43.7050706@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:07:47 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACACF1C.9030605@interisland.net> In-reply-to: <4ACACF1C.9030605@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 17:08:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb5d51301299752976205 When my 357/303 run out I will switch to renata as well. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Mike Lazzari wrote: > Thanks for the warnings. looks like the Renatas are the best deal now. > both price and performance. I'll order some and see how they work. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 17:31:32 2009 Received: (qmail 10603 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 15:31:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 15:31:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A8CE182A3 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C4E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E6F1CD481 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9628D1CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11828 invoked by uid 503); 6 Oct 2009 15:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 15:31:25 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <7ac27f4f0910050055n70ad6b05l14f13041d3ed7324@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910050055n70ad6b05l14f13041d3ed7324@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: <004401ca469a$10f574b0$32e05e10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpFkTSvc4EPCELMToeQ4jKRiwkZjgBCJ+pg Subject: Re: [OM] Han Restaurant Exhibit, Bay Area X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 17:31:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb62d484801413256596 That's great Richard. I'll have to go over there. Best wishes, Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man [mailto:richard.lists@gmail.com] Are you visiting or living in the SF Bay Area? Do you like Korean food? Or may be visiting the Apple store in downtown Palo Alto? Then come on down to 452 University Ave, Han Restaurant for some good Korean food, plus a viewing of 12 of my images. They are printed on canvas, the largest one being 20"x52" and 3 of them have "live" Chinese calligraphy. Go in, enjoy and food! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 18:23:46 2009 Received: (qmail 3201 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84334E182D1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F813E240B4 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458434AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE77834AC026 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:23:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([96.232.132.194]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR300DRZPIV6W9T@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:23:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACB6EF7.4090509@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:23:19 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Lenses X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 18:23:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb6f12118041234514069 I was able to pickup that OM collection. Please send me your lens wants if you haven't already. They will be saved in order of their receipt. Some items have pre sold. I also have 350 2.8, 180 f2, 400mm f6.5, (2) 500 f8 mirror lens, 1 new in box, (3) 35-80 f2.8, 24 f2, 28 f2, 80mm f4 MC auto macro, 135mm f4.5 MC auto Macro, (2) 50mm f3.5 MC macro and more. Ask, I may have it. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 18:43:13 2009 Received: (qmail 30182 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 16:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 16:43:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF4E182B1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2703E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE131CD49B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741EE1CD496 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30531 invoked by uid 503); 6 Oct 2009 16:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 16:43:00 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:00 -0700 Message-ID: <005401ca46a4$116f2d00$344d8700$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpGLOze5AEf6YZIQYue/YQ5E79KOgAdupQQ Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 18:43:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb73a1282635034211378 Hope you have a smooth and relatively painless recovery. Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:30 PM To: Olympus mail list Subject: [OM] Return of the bionic man Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and glue. Chuck Norcutt -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 18:44:20 2009 Received: (qmail 17094 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 16:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 16:44:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B211E182B9 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2E2E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10871CD48E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C951CD4AA for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n96GhKiu019496 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:43:20 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c2c.67a9d80c (55732) for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.153]) by cia-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD037-5c394acb739e364; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:43:18 -0400 Received: from webmail-d035 (webmail-d035.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.91]) by smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB027-5c394acb739e364; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.91) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC14BB3975C5A5-685C-8BEC@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] OM to Sony alpha adapter-- f/u X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 18:44:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb73e4297641136683642 Hi Iwert, I see what you mean regarding the orange ring. I don't have the testosterone to perform potentially irreversible camera mount phlange surgery to create FF digital film given the price of these things nice as though it would be at base ISO. Being able to use some of that nice Zeiss glass is another attraction of a non-destructive adapter. The alphas really aren't that much less than a Canyon 5D11 with live view that can work fine as digital film for Zuikos. Mike http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0908/Sony_alpha/A850/DSLR-A850_front.jpg Mike, would it be possible to take the alpha mount out and replace it with an OM-mount? (that would do away with the horrid orange ring as well :). It should just be 6 screws? I suppose that sticking out lever can be hidden inside the extra thickness of the OM-moun? YouI wouldn't use AF glass anyway... would you? Iwert 2009/10/5 : > Bah, > As promised, I pinged my favorite oddball adapter fabricator: > Technical advisor at Srb Griturn took another look. As Tim observed, > the diameters of the OM and Alpha bayonets are almost identical > and no easy way to have OM lens turn in the alpha throat turn and be > able construct a latch/stopdown mechanism. Srb doesn't think it is a > viable option. > Would take some fancy engineering if it is even possible at all w/o > mucking up the Sony. > > Mike > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 18:46:03 2009 Received: (qmail 9634 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 16:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 16:46:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1519FE18244 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738DEE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6769434AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CA834AC028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4134 invoked by uid 503); 6 Oct 2009 16:45:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 16:45:57 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA6588.3020607@chucknorcutt.com> <786DA94D-3E01-4686-A2FA-320EC5CAC040@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <786DA94D-3E01-4686-A2FA-320EC5CAC040@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:45:56 -0700 Message-ID: <005501ca46a4$7a7b1cf0$6f7156d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpGRLdFfEWyzSh+SOu2dKG+RlAVwgAX2tnw Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 18:46:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb744b266361076813867 OMG ... only a squeak, could Andrew be getting soft in his old age. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] ...but she did squeak the first time it went off. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 18:53:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25300 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 16:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 16:53:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4578EE18279 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EAEE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767F34AC02A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:52:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646E834AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so4006093fxm.37 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr147861hbh.61.1254847963716; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005501ca46a4$7a7b1cf0$6f7156d0$@com> References: <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA6588.3020607@chucknorcutt.com> <786DA94D-3E01-4686-A2FA-320EC5CAC040@people.net.au> <005501ca46a4$7a7b1cf0$6f7156d0$@com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:52:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cb7c9512fa2a8983 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 18:53:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb75f186611560218263 > > OMG ... only a squeak, could Andrew be getting soft in his old age. > I don't think so. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 19:29:25 2009 Received: (qmail 22485 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 17:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 17:29:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4994E1829D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445BE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989D734AC02E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C583610001 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25556 invoked by uid 503); 6 Oct 2009 17:29:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 6 Oct 2009 17:29:17 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:16 -0700 Message-ID: <006101ca46aa$884b2090$98e161b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpE3g1M3nrYD1IxSI29RqwFChMWTgByx91w Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 19:29:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb7e7554501879814018 Hi Carlos, Your 116,xxx puts yours in the middle of the SC versions I've seen. silver nosed: 100248 - 111124 black nosed: 111588 - 121624 zuiko MC: 130291 I'm sure my serial no. list has some errors. It helps build confidence or to investigate errors when I hear about others. It seems there were fewer 200/5 zuikos built than M-1 bodies. http://www.jkeller.com/zuiko-ser-nos.htm Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Carlos J. Santisteban [mailto:zuiko21@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:33 AM To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 Hi Jeff and all, From: "Jeff Keller" >The Zuiko 200mm f5 was made in a MC version. Just going by the serial nos. >there were about 11,000 Ag Schnozzed; somewhere between 11,000 and 19,000 >black nosed F. Zuiko 200mm f5 lenses. Mine (NOT for sale) is #116xxx, blacknosed and single-coated -- but, unlike the 135/3.5, this doesn't seem an issue with it. >I think I've seen about 3 MC lenses >show up on ebay but could only read one serial no. at about 130000. I believe there were some multicoated 200/5 with the 'Zuiko'-only lettering. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 19:35:39 2009 Received: (qmail 25421 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 17:35:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 17:35:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE559E181CC for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A5CE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F031CD495 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:35:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71301CD486 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n96HZ5Oq025668 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:35:05 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.ce9.6188f32c (41812) for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:35:02 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Lenses X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 19:35:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb7feb82321006886880 John, in addition to the 100mm f2, you might let me know what you would need for the 35-80 f2.8. Did you happen to get any hoods for the 90mm f2/135mm macro? Bill Barber In a message dated 10/6/2009 11:23:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, omtech1@verizon.net writes: I was able to pickup that OM collection. Please send me your lens wants if you haven't already. They will be saved in order of their receipt. Some items have pre sold. I also have 350 2.8, 180 f2, 400mm f6.5, (2) 500 f8 mirror lens, 1 new in box, (3) 35-80 f2.8, 24 f2, 28 f2, 80mm f4 MC auto macro, 135mm f4.5 MC auto Macro, (2) 50mm f3.5 MC macro and more. Ask, I may have it. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 19:37:29 2009 Received: (qmail 23927 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 17:37:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 17:37:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA2CE182A1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C7FE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648A21CD498 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:36:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AAA1CD495 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n96HaPCg003315 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:36:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d61.59183901 (41812) for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:36:21 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:36:21 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 19:37:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb8058121509730998309 I just ordered 20 at $21.42 including postage. That is not a bad deal. Bill Barber In a message dated 10/6/2009 10:08:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, omtech1@verizon.net writes: When my 357/303 run out I will switch to renata as well. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Mike Lazzari wrote: > Thanks for the warnings. looks like the Renatas are the best deal now. > both price and performance. I'll order some and see how they work. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 20:34:21 2009 Received: (qmail 8346 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 18:34:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 18:34:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9241E1822D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4233BE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3445034AC031 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:34:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2113E34AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3588439bwz.14 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:34:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.22 with SMTP id e22mr5284020bkw.93.1254854052962; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:34:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:34:11 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910061134l6e8031ffga9478ad9244921dd@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 20:34:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb8dad280062517112723 Best of luck to you Chuck. If it is of any consolation, my neighbor had it done but after a rough first month he swears it's the best decision he ever made. It is now his "strong" knee (and he's now considering the other side). Charlie On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Chuck Norcutt < chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com> wrote: > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. I think that sometime after lunch I will awake and wonder why I > ever decided to do this despite Andrew's severe warnings. The next > month I'll follow up with having both cataracts removed. I have vowed > to be able to keep up with my wife walking down the Florida beaches this > winter and also to be able to see where I'm going. I might even be able > to focus an OM again. :-) > > The hospital supposedly has wifi but I assume it will be a while before > I'm up to using it. They say 3-4 days in the hospital proper and 3-10 > days in the rehab facility. I'll see ya when I see ya. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 20:39:22 2009 Received: (qmail 23352 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 18:39:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 18:39:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A695E181CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D291DE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B1D34AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2489E34AC02D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bbbean@beancotton.com whitelisted) Received: from smtpauth03.csee.onr.siteprotect.com (smtpauth03.csee.onr.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.137]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [12.239.193.125]) (Authenticated sender: bbbean@beancotton.com) by smtpauth03.csee.onr.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83861038022 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:39:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4ACB8ED0.4010204@beancotton.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:39:12 -0500 From: Barry Bean User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1pre (Windows/2008022014) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <266288.77626.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Photographing Police Officers - Clarification from No10 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 20:39:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acb8eda299191234514069 Ken Norton wrote: > Granted, they aren't CJ Wranglers with Rubucon upgrades, but the Liberty > actually has redeemed itself quite well as a decent Jeep. My two certainly have. I have an 04 gas burner and an 06 diesel, and both have been excellent performers, proving themselves rugged enough for farm use, but comfortable enough for road trips. The diesel, in particular has proven economical, getting 30 mpg on the highway and 25 on the farm. Those numbers compare to 24/18 mpg from my gas burner. Neither has had any serious service issues. I do understand that there will be a 4 door diesel Wrangler in lats 2010. I may retire my 06 at that point, but otherwise, I plan to run it til it's a pile of rusty bolts. Ob OM content - that extra torque comes in handy when I'm logging the big lenses and tripod up a steep road! -- Barry B. Bean Bean & Bean Cotton Company Peach Orchard, MO www.beancotton.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 22:19:46 2009 Received: (qmail 14415 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFEAE181BA for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAA0E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29A134AC02E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3291F34AC039 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so4192170fxm.37 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:19:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.14.215 with SMTP id h23mr624758faa.59.1254860379133; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:19:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:19:39 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910061319j4b274603x7437c93643293495@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 22:19:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acba662155281006886880 That's about half what I pay for them, in packages of 10 - packages of 20 are not for sale here. You may have observed that Renata belongs to the Swatch Group. This group doesn't only make the inexpensive (but quite accurate) Swatch watches. It makes Longines watches too. The expensive Longines are self-winding, but one very same model (say the now discontinued 'Oposition Chrono' model) is built either quartz-driven or self-winding, only visible difference is that the mechanic body bottom surface is made of sapphire and the electronic is made of stainless steel. Their rep. in Mvd uses Renata batteries, quite naturally :-) I asked about this issue at Freccero Joyas after I bought the OM4 to John. Renata batteries must be good, don't you think so? 2009/10/6 : > I just ordered 20 at $21.42 including postage. =A0That is not a bad =A0de= al. > Bill Barber > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Oct 6 23:39:38 2009 Received: (qmail 2625 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 21:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 21:39:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10672E18229 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095B4E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E687734AC039 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:39:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F8734AC02E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:39:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n96LdPnS021675 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:39:26 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c38.61b201ca (37582) for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB057-5c404acbb90422; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:39:22 -0400 Received: from webmail-m034 (webmail-m034.sim.aol.com [64.12.101.217]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB036-5c404acbb90422; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:39:16 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:39:15 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.217) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:39:15 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC14E4963CA0D2-A04-229A@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Oct 6 23:39:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acbb91a189299752976205 Best of luck, Chuck. You should have some time off for recovery, though make sure Drs. Focus and Flash check in now and again. Make sure you you at least inquire about the Toric lenses if you have astigmatism and consider the Crystlens (may need to retrain eye muscles for accomdation but likely results in best acuity of these type lenses), ReZOOM and ReSTOR Lens Implants. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 00:49:56 2009 Received: (qmail 5167 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2009 22:49:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 22:49:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3908E1829D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0271E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749891CD495 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E1CD48D for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1539 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 22:49:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.175.138) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 22:49:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <005501ca46a4$7a7b1cf0$6f7156d0$@com> References: <837122194.467461254411235907.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <9f07ac840910010911p5737c512o62d3004d1d4e3254@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910011125g358a58ccwb8d1b627ad995e3a@mail.gmail.com> <527B700B-49DA-4426-8F81-2838E55B5D1E@threeshoes.net> <1A995962-7F9E-48FA-BB0A-DA754912904E@people.net.au> <31927272.4641254739722745.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4C60F53A-5778-4A36-A8FD-0CE4711348AC@people.net.au> <4ACA1CA4.10908@chucknorcutt.com> <4ACA6588.3020607@chucknorcutt.com> <786DA94D-3E01-4686-A2FA-320EC5CAC040@people.net.au> <005501ca46a4$7a7b1cf0$6f7156d0$@com> Message-Id: <67D27E26-A4EF-4243-9661-815116A395A7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:49:41 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sharp? Who needs it? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 00:49:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acbc994268644877110844 Actually she gasped as I remember - it was the floorpack that squeaked. It has a squeak sound when it's ready to fire again. One model thought it was 'cute'. It wasn't, but she was. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/10/2009, at 3:45 AM, Jeff Keller wrote: > OMG ... only a squeak, could Andrew be getting soft in his old age. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] > > > ...but she did squeak the first time it went off. > > > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 03:51:07 2009 Received: (qmail 1808 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 01:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 01:51:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2C6E182A0 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D0AE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F311CD48E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33811CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16274 invoked by uid 502); 7 Oct 2009 01:50:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.47?) (moose@72.73.108.52) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Oct 2009 01:50:55 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACBF3F6.7040706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:50:46 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACBED08.14795.C31028@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 03:51:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acbf40b287291342116753 Nathan Wajsman wrote: > http://www.chabad.org/generic_cdo/aid/984606/jewish/Sukkot-Simchat-Torah.htm > And here's one solution to creating the Sukkah if you are short of time or space. We stayed in a B&B in Brooklyn owned by and catering to Orthodox Jews over Sukkot a couple of years ago. Instructions for getting in were in an envelope left for us and we never saw the owners over the Holiday. Business was back to normal when we were leaving Monday. B&H and Adorama are both Jewish owned and observe Jewish holidays. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 03:56:13 2009 Received: (qmail 6117 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 01:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 01:56:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143E2E18256 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419D9E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F1934AC027 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:56:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D1834AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:56:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so4380370fxm.37 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.16.216 with SMTP id p24mr654781faa.35.1254880565536; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CC14E4963CA0D2-A04-229A@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC14E4963CA0D2-A04-229A@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:56:05 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910061856n1b247b5cvbef0d5058129de23@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 03:56:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acbf53d321473900897491 wohaaa ..... all this for cataracts surgery !? Of course I know little if anything on this, but with this info you're telling, Mike - I have all the rights to question what has been really happening during this presidential period in my country, through which cataracts were used as a political argument in Public Health care - and Cuban ophthalmologists came here to do this apparently simple surgery (simple things do not exist, imo) for free - and a battle between Uruguayan ophthalmologists and the political class began. I doubt that our Public Health Ministry has enough funds for financing 'state of the art' cataracts surgery at a mass level, and whatever was done by the Cuban ophthalmologists was kept secret. Knowledge is power, and the political class gets more power if they get more votes, and it's all too easy to get votes out of deceiving (keeping secrets for the masses) and from ignorance (I'm no exception - despite what you've said, I remain ignorant on the nuances of this apparently simple technique :-( Sorry, couldn't help this wild off topic shut inside. Fernando. 2009/10/6 : > > Make sure you you at least inquire about the Toric lenses if you have > astigmatism and consider > the Crystlens (may need to retrain eye muscles for accomdation but > likely results in best acuity of these type lenses), =A0ReZOOM and ReSTOR > Lens Implants. > > Mike > -- -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 05:21:50 2009 Received: (qmail 2496 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 03:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 03:21:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CC3E182A1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F17E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1E934AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59F734AC02B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sgomez.baja@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com (mail-px0-f185.google.com [209.85.216.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so4323077pxi.26 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.27.42 with SMTP id e42mr158218wfj.220.1254885703460; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:43 -0700 Message-ID: <5bc0258e0910062021u18d5de5bjcffc0103bc397bdc@mail.gmail.com> From: Scott Gomez To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 05:21:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc094e171321076813867 3G phones with 8GB are only $99 with the usual 2 year plan. Rich I am not. iPhoned I am. --- Scott Gomez On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > My life was getting too predictable, so we decided to get new cell phones. > After five hours of trying to correct plans and billing issues, I think we > have a break-through! I've been lulled into a false sense of security that > my next bill will be lower than my mortgage payment. The adventure with > Sprint has just begun all over again. > > Anyway, we got a pair of Palm Centros. The keyboard is extremely tiny and > barely usable, but the phones meet and exceed our requirements. Most > phones > are too large these days and navigation is a bear. The Palm OS is a little > better than average and the one serious selling point for the Palms is that > they really sound good. Our last couple of phones didn't. > > I know, we could have gotten iPhones, but I'm not THAT rich. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 05:49:37 2009 Received: (qmail 15186 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 03:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 03:49:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FBBE181CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516E4E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CCC1CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B090B1CD481 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3919847bwz.14 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:49:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr205294hbh.61.1254887368662; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:49:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5bc0258e0910062021u18d5de5bjcffc0103bc397bdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bc0258e0910062021u18d5de5bjcffc0103bc397bdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:49:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac4258b0e63fc05c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 05:49:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc0fd1224961413256596 > > 3G phones with 8GB are only $99 with the usual 2 year plan. Rich I am not. > iPhoned I am. > > Yeah, but add three more phones and try to have a usable plan. It gets pricey. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 05:53:52 2009 Received: (qmail 9805 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 03:53:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 03:53:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130D4E182A1 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B86E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2021CD48E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06FD1CD485 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3921438bwz.14 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:53:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.82 with SMTP id y18mr643706fau.74.1254887624535; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:53:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACACEAD.9070804@interisland.net> References: <4ACACEAD.9070804@interisland.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:53:43 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910062053n6585864u8becf0eb7fc4a064@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 80/4.0 Macro resolving power? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 05:53:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc10d0174232439112457 I certainly do ! - That was an amazing photograph, Mike: I didn't know such a critter existed, less so at the latitude where you live. I thought many things when saw your frog - with some years of perspective, I may synthesize all those into one thought: you taught me and I learned from you five or six very fundamental things. I am quite aware of what I could learn from you, maybe you're not completely aware of how much you did and its importance to my understanding. Strictly photographically speaking, I began taking nature (wild nature I mean ... ) photographs following what I saw you had done. There is one photograph which I doubt I could ever do another one which I myself shall like better: it is only a much more refined version of one you did before. Just to add another point, I listened to your advice on learning photoshop for the first time in my life: before, I despised it. I considered it sort of 'second class' manipulated photography. No more than half a dozen things, but I consider them as groundbreaking, quantum leaps. Beware, don't feel flattered at all: this is my regular attitude towards anyone generous enough - otoh, I perceive mean people very quickly. Anyone does, in fact - but I particularly stress and underline these traits of personality, and watch myself in this realm. This is an inevitable consequence of the love I felt for my father. And this rules for anyone - read some D.Winnicott in case of doubt. Fernando. --------------------- oh! since the frog, I'm waiting for an 80/4 plus 2X front-lens. I've withheld because little critters are too hard to photograph if I stick to RDPIII or RVP ;-). 2009/10/6 Mike Lazzari : >> >> Mike, I like this one better than the one you did of that tiny green frog !. > Fernando, you remember the frog? That was > the 80 on the OM4t. > > Mike > -- > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 06:29:37 2009 Received: (qmail 4066 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 04:29:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 04:29:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED4AE1805F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BE2E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45334AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D3234AC024 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.149]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 61091 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2009 04:29:28 -0000 Message-ID: <536309.61087.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: t9JyL3YVM1l_.JBSpR5qzmgFFjSx6E1eP8LzlJ2Kp4.0MWXmCZLmAmR08AA0NyS98UNkuIguiji1FSr4q9V2EEeBo8p171R6rTkMU0wsSmWVbLB_dxqq7MpFlyqwNxzYDEvo4R9vOJQdWyVlLcLYNgzWq3VR2yF_xvnb.KhYGFSZByWhykAA4IMyxdSK_HiY5vG65EXQOgb9UqjJzWOdc6i7hxl440fd138rKZkyWKHdSfAacwV5FFC9m64buzpn7cdLDgz34vljSCAidnD_CkSJGWDkmqothMr4C4vrhGejQB82kO.ZGT4_JbBhEeMcykPoya5zarR0kjd.1pFqaRrw3OpGFmP4AUcSpRfeff1PPwETuFzG_G97EPltrixn0PXLQco3MZgS9hSyNwihoHfDglX5vNLuCKHfIfSsnCMpPRuBOjfVvEYksLImYdTMFqPupcvIOwAo Received: from [74.97.128.24] by web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:29:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:29:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 06:29:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc1931217662517112723 Watch out Sarah Connor...:) =A0 Chuck, I wish that you are back on your feet in no time. =A0 Boris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around = http://mail.yahoo.com = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 06:31:54 2009 Received: (qmail 11151 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 04:31:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 04:31:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791F1E182AE for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03785E240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2B834AC025 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:31:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD89734AC029 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (tom@abacurial.com whitelisted) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (CPE000fb55e4999-CM001868e60278.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [173.33.58.218]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lz5GC-1MI0yb44Om-014Rkq; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:31:43 -0400 From: "tOM Trottier" Organization: http://abacurial.com Info Architecture To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:31:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACC19AA.31407.107768F5@tom.abacurial.com> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18xXzO2mmhlif04y1oZ9l9o2oMANdmceye6/o0 VUKDSR1GU7CZMBPOunT7MX31+jKKQpCrICKsWFIrrXxlK0x1Gw puSSVVHQyt9N/rAR+kYDw== Subject: [OM] Simple fill-in: wear a white shirt with long sleeves X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 06:31:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc19ba239755034211378 Seems really obvious in retrospect: If you want an instant, always available fill-in reflector when getting in close, wear a white shirt (or parka, coat, ....)! Heard it on the Photography.ca podcast. tOM -- Absum! -- tOM Trottier, +1 613 860-6633 469 Ancaster Ave, Ottawa, ON K2B 5B6 Canada http://Information.Architecture.Abacurial.com Est-ce c'est necessaire d'imprimer ce courriel? Do you really need to print this email? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 06:45:57 2009 Received: (qmail 19315 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 04:45:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 04:45:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86479E1824C for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B8CE240CB for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA213610002 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA383610001 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27B66DFF for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0202.4a9c48ea.6bda452 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:45:53 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzB0B/48N3AIAAAAB,eae4e5e18826f8a78168a73f90543a03 X-Vipre-Scanned: 2463143700153924631584-TDI Message-ID: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:45:54 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 06:45:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc1d05130712439112457 You can all keep your iPhones, Blackberry's and the lot, still running on my Motorola L2 - just a phone, if I want music that's what the stereo is for, internet, that is what the computer is for, and photos, that is why I own so damn many cameras! When I am out and about, the damn phone is intrusion enough without all the other crap! Jim (Luddite) Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 09:41:35 2009 Received: (qmail 4536 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 07:41:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 07:41:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97281E18277 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07899E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC57234AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B522334AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com (mail-ew0-f219.google.com [209.85.219.219]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so4785020ewy.28 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:41:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.10 with SMTP id z10mr400wee.108.1254901286604; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:41:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4AC9FEA5.2040102@gmail.com> <4ACAC473.8090100@gmail.com> <92A7BF28-CD08-40F3-85A7-9E7F7DFB052D@threeshoes.net> <953BE6C5-98C6-4FE5-915A-0E96CF861AF3@people.net.au> <6BB77664-F3AB-4336-8E4A-B3E8E9EA9105@people.net.au> <513BE8AAD979457CBD68B53162992B85@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:41:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2dfdf2c116a59bce Message-ID: <9f07ac840910070041i4f6978d1h93f1742e9dcc80f2@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Come on down... 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Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 11:42:21 2009 Received: (qmail 25934 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 09:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 09:42:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1EE181B2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503E9E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1DF34AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:42:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886AE34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:42:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jason.gidden@uk.bnpparibas.com whitelisted) Received: from lonmail5.bnpparibas.com (lonmail5.bnpparibas.com [155.140.121.252]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:42:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BANNED: NO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,518,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="20086458" Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: jason.gidden@uk.bnpparibas.com To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:41:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Jason Gidden/SYSTEMS/LONDON/BFI/BNP is out of the office. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 11:42:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc627d131465368819438 I will be out of the office starting 07/10/2009 and will not return until 09/10/2009. I am currently out of the office, off sick. I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent issues, please send your correspondance to TO&IT - Banking. -------- This communication is confidential, may be privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. 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BNP Paribas Lease Group Plc is registered in England and Wales (registered no. 2341989) at registered office Northern Cross, Basing View, Basingstoke, Hampshire RG21 4HL. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 12:03:10 2009 Received: (qmail 9815 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 10:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 10:03:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF07BE182A3 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E58EE240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE2834AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:03:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5EE34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:03:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.58.186] (186.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.186]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEA83D9EE9; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:03:01 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: Chuck Norcutt , olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:03:04 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACD1E28.32235.2F21902@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: [OM] (OM) Return of the Bionic Man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 12:03:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc675d60451234514069 Chuck wrote > Tuesday morning is the big event. The worn out bones and nonexistent > cartilage of both knees will be replaced by some plastic and steel and > glue. Best wishes for thoroughly successful operations, least possible pain, and successful post-op exercises. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 13:42:15 2009 Received: (qmail 26002 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 11:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 11:42:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4962E181D6 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFF2E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FA234AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8679D34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.254] (254.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.254]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AED63DA46E for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:42:04 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:42:06 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: [OM] ( OM ) OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 13:42:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc7e97243381950411718 Nathan advised > http://www.chabad.org/generic_cdo/aid/984606/jewish/Sukkot-Simchat-Torah.htm Thanks; I had no idea. The population of Jews in New Zealand is quite small and their impact on NZ social knowledge tiny. But by following the links, i discovered that the only Succoth "official" celebration here is in my city, Christchurch. Yes, it is B&H and Adorama that I found closed. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 14:37:54 2009 Received: (qmail 18829 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 12:37:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 12:37:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE74E18277 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE2EE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6121634AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2372A34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.71]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR5000LS9QGOHXC@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACC8B8D.1010006@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:37:33 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACA0729.7080106@verizon.net> <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4ACB3B5A.5010300@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 14:37:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc8ba1271631073733319 Yeah I realized that late yesterday. DOH! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > John, > > Be aware that you've been replying to the list. Thanks for the Visa > number. ;) > > AG > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:43 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > >> I'm very sorry Ken, I had to do this based on when emails came in. >> Sorry to have to tell you that this body sold to someone else within a >> few minutes of me mentioning it to the list, and more than an hour from >> me updating my site. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 14:43:55 2009 Received: (qmail 11680 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 12:43:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 12:43:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3C8E1824D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3494FE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891034AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF89C34AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:43:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.71]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR5008Q2A0DUDPJ@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:43:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACC8CF1.90802@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:43:29 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1821975205.1983291254755440383.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4ACB4F40.7040206@verizon.net> <962685226EC24A7EAD5DE9C544FEE9C2@your9ya3hf92n3> In-reply-to: <962685226EC24A7EAD5DE9C544FEE9C2@your9ya3hf92n3> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 14:43:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc8d0b153201744846740 It does turn it back into a Class I product though. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Piers Hemy wrote: > Isn't the beep $500 extra? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@verizon.net] > Sent: 06 October 2009 15:08 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti > > So your camera WILL have battery check beep, it was turned OFF !!! > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Don Holbrook wrote: >> I'll take it......................let me know how you want to handle it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: John Hermanson >> >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> >> Sent: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) >> >> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-3Ti >> >> >> >> During final inspection, I found that the camera I was selling to Bill >> >> had no "beep" on battery check (which means no beep when a spot >> reading >> >> is taken). He accepted that but at his request, I'll be swapping his >> >> camera for the one that I originally intended to keep but had since >> >> decided to sell, with Bill paying the price difference. >> >> >> >> So, the camera I'm putting up for sale is the first body again, but >> with >> >> an extra note that the "beep" doesn't work. 90 day warranty does not >> >> include beep repair. Could be bad pcv, or some IC malfunction (no >> other >> >> features are affected). Same price $950. >> >> ___________________________________ >> >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 14:55:26 2009 Received: (qmail 7480 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 12:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 12:55:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9CCE1822D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DB2E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDBA19E759 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:55:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73719E751 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:55:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so4722720fxm.37 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:55:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.152 with SMTP id e24mr6253901bkc.119.1254920118513; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:55:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:55:18 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 14:55:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc8fbe20531258626592 Well said Jim. I'm with you. Charlie On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Jim Couch wrote: > You can all keep your iPhones, Blackberry's and the lot, still running > on my Motorola L2 - just a phone, if I want music that's what the stereo > is for, internet, that is what the computer is for, and photos, that is > why I own so damn many cameras! When I am out and about, the damn phone > is intrusion enough without all the other crap! > > Jim (Luddite) Couch > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 15:13:18 2009 Received: (qmail 13984 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84455E182A4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BECE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DDE19E835 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:13:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8933D19E83B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:13:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com (mail-yx0-f204.google.com [209.85.210.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so86013yxe.22 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:13:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.81.12 with SMTP id i12mr3049105anl.151.1254921192790; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:13:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 15:13:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc93ee108921076813867 While waiting for the next train (the benelux train of 7:00 had brake circuit problems) I wandered around the Antwerp central station with OM-5D and 21f3.5. There were some dandy boys to be seen: French fries delivery waiting for the shop owner: the station (still rather quiet): and the remains of a camera shop: Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 15:37:20 2009 Received: (qmail 15896 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 13:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 13:37:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C702DE182AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2AEE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AD534AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:37:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0468634AC028 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:37:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so14293818ewy.22 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:37:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.6 with SMTP id z6mr596364wee.52.1254922633800; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:37:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:37:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 753caf29c69b6a9b Message-ID: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 15:37:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc9990309361744846740 Nice angles on some of them - but you owe it to the rest-of-the-world (who will never visit) to show more of the fabulous architecture... It was recently voted the 4th most beautiful railway station in the world... br jez On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:13 PM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > While waiting for the next train (the benelux train of 7:00 had brake > circuit problems) I wandered around > the Antwerp central station with OM-5D and 21f3.5. > > There were some dandy boys to be seen: > > > French fries delivery waiting for the shop owner: > > > the station (still rather quiet): > > > > and the remains of a camera shop: > > > > Iwert > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 15:39:53 2009 Received: (qmail 1494 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 13:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 13:39:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D87E1824C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D08E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4297119E8ED for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C805619E8EC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13959 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2009 13:39:49 -0000 Message-ID: <337508.12303.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nwtF_PIVM1k1KSMFJQbbq_TrSFRMvfhG9moaUaYURVYgtwW6yCJBmjR9AjkX7bd2Ial9f3cV3jE1D8ps7i5tphl818Z0AO3fGIsqH37VfJnQqrdYjqLbQ1VinKJz0ZZhNhAg445xqbh6Pv74LCtcxP1cWp.D8bcxrRaMGJtSnvBMlNdm9ORKAbWqlmc55Dj0Z0Q.xGyqq1G2ahKvcXl86GoqctlOkIiwq4D_v8DzbaSleO.5x8U3WWOzW4ml_.ueU0fn0CT6DfAbNQWtojZmix8XpD6PgEDxxOGPrhLmNqgV3NipCTNQiZwpxZihqPsto2QReu.QS9BeINpxdYbI Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:39:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 15:39:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc9a29293481136683642 > I know, we could have gotten iPhones, but I'm not THAT > rich. $49.00 for refurbed 3g iThingy's on ATT's site. People seem to think it is a status thing but yet everyone seems to have one. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 15:49:07 2009 Received: (qmail 30031 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 13:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 13:49:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C31E181B9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B10CE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BD934AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAA634AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:48:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f198.google.com (mail-yw0-f198.google.com [209.85.211.198]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh36 with SMTP id 36so5071936ywh.15 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:48:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.134.36 with SMTP id l36mr3096368ann.133.1254923338738; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:48:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 15:49:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc9c52223161076813867 Thanks Jez, I'll take care of that the next delay... won't be long, knowing the N(MB)S :) Last monday my first train was suspended, the second had a delay, the connection in the Hague had a delay of 35 minutes so I took the tram and when entering the safe zone of the ministry of OCW the revolving door blocked on me. Then traveling back home the train from Rotterdam to Antwerp was suspended again... luckily the beamer at the ministry of OCW in the Hague did work, I was getting the feeling it was me... the "broodjes" were as Dutch as ever however. Iwert 2009/10/7 Jez Cunningham : > Nice angles on some of them - but you owe it to the rest-of-the-world > (who will never visit) to show more of the fabulous architecture... > It was recently voted the 4th most beautiful railway station in the > world... > br > jez > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:13 PM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> While waiting for the next train (the benelux train of 7:00 had brake >> circuit problems) I wandered around >> the Antwerp central station with OM-5D and 21f3.5. >> >> There were some dandy boys to be seen: >> >> >> French fries delivery waiting for the shop owner: >> >> >> the station (still rather quiet): >> >> >> >> and the remains of a camera shop: >> >> >> >> Iwert >> -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 15:51:56 2009 Received: (qmail 10804 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 13:51:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 13:51:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DF5E18146 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76745E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F2619E918 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:51:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02719E917 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1355439fga.8 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:51:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.145 with SMTP id c17mr268196hba.14.1254923509109; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:51:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <337508.12303.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <337508.12303.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:51:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e55e1a5f9cc1ffcc Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 15:51:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acc9cfc220731342116753 > > $49.00 for refurbed 3g iThingy's on ATT's site. People seem to think it is > a status thing but yet everyone seems to have one. > Yes. Reburbs are nearly NC. The NRC was not the problem it's the MRC that gets you. AT&T's ARPU is OTT. I was able to negotiate a plan with Sprint that saved nearly $50 per month on four phones. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 16:12:25 2009 Received: (qmail 19300 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 14:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 14:12:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75958E18256 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D16BE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185E419E998 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F3C19E984 for ; 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Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so43539bwz.14 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.70 with SMTP id u6mr6365851bkb.70.1254925904690; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:31:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006101ca46aa$884b2090$98e161b0$@com> References: <006101ca46aa$884b2090$98e161b0$@com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:31:44 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910070731o70bf9621s571b124a31b46168@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 16:31:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acca659138801744846740 Jeff, I pulled out my 200/5 to check. It is a black nosed but with a serial number smack in the middle of the posted silver nose range (1106xx). Charlie On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Keller wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > Your 116,xxx puts yours in the middle of the SC versions I've seen. > > silver nosed: 100248 - 111124 > black nosed: 111588 - 121624 > zuiko MC: 130291 > > I'm sure my serial no. list has some errors. It helps build confidence or > to > investigate errors when I hear about others. > > It seems there were fewer 200/5 zuikos built than M-1 bodies. > > http://www.jkeller.com/zuiko-ser-nos.htm > > > Jeff Keller > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos J. Santisteban [mailto:zuiko21@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:33 AM > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 > > Hi Jeff and all, > > > From: "Jeff Keller" > > >The Zuiko 200mm f5 was made in a MC version. Just going by the serial nos. > > >there were about 11,000 Ag Schnozzed; somewhere between 11,000 and 19,000 > > >black nosed F. Zuiko 200mm f5 lenses. > > > Mine (NOT for sale) is #116xxx, blacknosed and single-coated -- but, unlike > the 135/3.5, this doesn't seem an issue with it. > > > >I think I've seen about 3 MC lenses > > >show up on ebay but could only read one serial no. at about 130000. > > > I believe there were some multicoated 200/5 with the 'Zuiko'-only > lettering. > Cheers, > -- > Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas > IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 16:36:47 2009 Received: (qmail 14933 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 14:36:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 14:36:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDA1E181AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9F0E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BC019EA0D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:36:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DC219EA09 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:36:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MvXdB-0004Hp-2g for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:36:41 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MvXd0-0005p9-HQ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACCA76D.7070809@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:36:29 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 16:36:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acca77f183115034211378 Jim Couch wrote: > You can all keep your iPhones, Blackberry's and the lot, still running > on my Motorola L2 - just a phone, if I want music that's what the stereo > is for, internet, that is what the computer is for, and photos, that is > why I own so damn many cameras! When I am out and about, the damn phone > is intrusion enough without all the other crap! > > Jim (Luddite) Couch > Aye, Jeez, all I want is a 'phone. My ancient brick still works, ta much. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 16:43:01 2009 Received: (qmail 12340 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 14:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 14:43:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729E9E18277 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68BAE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C3934AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AAB34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ralf_loi@it.ibm.com whitelisted) Received: from mtagate3.de.ibm.com (mtagate3.de.ibm.com [195.212.17.163]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.81]) by mtagate3.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n97Egs80007945 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:42:54 GMT Received: from d12av06.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av06.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.230]) by d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n97EgsOc2998338 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:54 +0200 Received: from d12av06.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av06.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id n97Egsl2031622 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:54 +0200 Received: from d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.166.154]) by d12av06.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id n97EgsK0031618 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910070047t5dbab2beh5396538d5b8fdbee@mail.gmail.com> X-Disclaimed: 21678 To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 From: Ralf Loi X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 07/10/2009 16.42.51, Serialize by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 07/10/2009 16.42.51, Serialize complete at 07/10/2009 16.42.51, S/MIME Sign failed at 07/10/2009 16.42.51: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D12ML401/12/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 07/10/2009 16:42:54, Serialize complete at 07/10/2009 16:42:54 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:52 +0200 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 16:43:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acca8f5140371560218263 Good luck for a speedy recovery. Ralf (Still going trough 800+ mails after a 1 week vacation) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 16:54:46 2009 Received: (qmail 2109 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 14:54:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 14:54:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE8AE182D4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A01E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5025C34AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B467B34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ralf_loi@it.ibm.com whitelisted) Received: from mtagate2.de.ibm.com (mtagate2.de.ibm.com [195.212.17.162]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate2.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n97Esdj0030403 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:54:39 GMT Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.229]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n97EscYN3465416 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:54:38 +0200 Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n97EscfB031464 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:54:38 +0200 Received: from d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.166.154]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n97Esc9X031461 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:54:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimed: 58950 To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 From: Ralf Loi X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 07/10/2009 16.54.36, Serialize by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 07/10/2009 16.54.36, Serialize complete at 07/10/2009 16.54.36, S/MIME Sign failed at 07/10/2009 16.54.36: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D12ML401/12/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 07/10/2009 16:54:38, Serialize complete at 07/10/2009 16:54:38 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:54:37 +0200 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Still alive X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 16:54:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accabb670261950411718 << > > Never again, I say never again. > LOL, and there are those of us foolishly doing them willingly. Trying to schedule 20 for next year... AG >> I suspect the main difference is that you will be paid, and Johan wasn't :-) (I assume the groom is a friend) Ralf -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 17:08:17 2009 Received: (qmail 14601 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 15:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 15:08:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5366AE182C8 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40343E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2182E34AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E1B34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20091007150812H0600m95ape>; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:08:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <607B624B26754ECCAD59384DB4CE5825@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:07:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] OT: Digital 3d meeting in Ohio last night X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 17:08:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accaee1272905368819438 Last night was my indoctrination into digital 3d.... Our stereo club had a digital meeting & competition. We have had these for 2 years now, but never entered (which hurts my standings) because I do not take digital pictures and I am too lazy to scan my stereo slides. But I decided to enter last night. I had a few digital 3d pictures that I shot in an hour with the borrowed Fuji 3d digital camera. I selected one of these, a close up of our cat. Then, I scanned two stereo slides: One from our Orlando vacation, a picture of a Troll with his HUGE nose coming out of the stereo window. Another, a tabletop of a slinky sitting on a mirror (for extra reflection). I selected these entries and scanned the slides, just two hours before the meeting (I am a big procrastinator) I had zero expectations. I figured, I will get 3 points, just by entering 3 images, and I would be happy. Results: 1. Close up of the cat got an HM (2 pts) 2. Slinky got 1st place (5 pts) 3. Troll got 1st place and was voted "People's Choice" (6 pts total) Wow! I ended up with 13 pts and after two meetings at I am in first place! This digital thing is fun! My Fuji 3d camera is delivered tomorrow! I have a half marathon this weekend. I will run with the camera in my hands, "dress rehearsal" for the Athens marathon on Nov. 8th! George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 17:10:36 2009 Received: (qmail 31252 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 15:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 15:10:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF33E1822C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26103E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1440919EAC4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4420319EABA for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 17:15:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accb07b73621357919056 > So now you need to show us these pictures! Congrats! Thanks... I knew someone was going to say this! Did I mention something about procrastination? I tend to procrastinate when I need to do things I have never done before. And I have never posted 3d pictures. The issue of format is confusing. Side-by-side for freeviewing parallel? Cross-viewing? Anaglyph? I know there are ways to have the user select the method they want to see, but don't know how to do it. Viewing is the Achilles heel of stereo photography. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 17:17:37 2009 Received: (qmail 7237 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 15:17:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 15:17:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B400E182E4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD2EE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F334AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE42834AC025 for ; 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(VPS 091007-0, 10/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 17:33:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accb4d9279381357919056 > > .....When I am out and about, the damn phone is intrusion enough without all the other crap! > > Jim (Luddite) Couch > I'm with you Jim. Except a cell phone isn't so much an intrusion as a useless babble since our service is so sketchy. No service here at the house and very limited elsewhere. I actually considered Globalstar when they had the great deal a few months ago, $10/mo talk all you want within NAmerica. Phone was really expensive though and the future of the service was in doubt. Still is. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 17:49:44 2009 Received: (qmail 19874 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 15:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 15:49:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA3EE182A4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616EDE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775934AC027 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A4534AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.71]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR500771IM41JGC@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACCB881.3090806@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:49:21 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD16E1.10219.2D5AF25@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-reply-to: <4ACD16E1.10219.2D5AF25@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 17:49:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accb898285101234514069 I pay $0.65 ea. for 357/303, 100 at a time. I've used them for years and have had no complaints. The occasional OM-1 that comes in during the 6 mo. warranty shows no meter errors. Have had no complaints of unusually fast dead batteries in 2S or 4. From a business standpoint and the perceived performance gain, even the 1000+ price is almost twice my net. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Brian Swale wrote: > John Hermanson wrote >> This place lists Sony SR44W, but they are expensive. >> >> http://shopping.microbattery.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4855/.f > > At $2.50 US each for a qualtity of 1 - 4, that is relatively inexpensive, by my > experience with Fujitsu. > > Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 18:00:25 2009 Received: (qmail 30092 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 16:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 16:00:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C103E182A4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9DBE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E36319EC4B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:00:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3CC19EC4E for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1AD4616B7 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:26:45 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:00:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910052253y1bb39341k6516eeda0c527c07@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACAABA6.9060909@chucknorcutt.com> <6f8422750910052037q129480b8j5ac4142f7fb0d9de@mail.gmail.com> <49BFED99-85BC-470C-BC45-6F9B95455666@threeshoes.net> <6f8422750910052253y1bb39341k6516eeda0c527c07@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Return of the bionic man X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 18:00:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accbb19233189730998309 Yes, very good, Fernando. The colours in your photos are sometimes a little strong, but this is an interesting set of colours as well as composition. Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 06:53, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Thanks for looking and commenting, Chris :-) Glad you liked it. > Take a look at the second version - much better - my new > transilluminator bionic machine shall be patented soon ;^) !!. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 18:08:02 2009 Received: (qmail 5555 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 16:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 16:08:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C20E18212 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28945E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C72834AC034 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303734AC036 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.71]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR500G93JGM7VXD@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:07:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:07:38 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-reply-to: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 18:08:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accbce2159589730998309 I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option or is the feature hidden somewhere? ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 18:12:50 2009 Received: (qmail 16286 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D26E182A9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B234AE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ABA19ECCD for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F87619ECCA for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rbeckrich@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so5286070ewy.14 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.128.5 with SMTP id f5mr58732ebn.85.1254931963115; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Rick Beckrich To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 18:12:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accbe0294381234514069 Still there. John. You have to be signed in, then click advanced search. That's where it's buried now. Rick On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:07 PM, John Hermanson wrote: > I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions > going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option > or is the feature hidden somewhere? > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 18:34:14 2009 Received: (qmail 27183 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD743E182AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA7EE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7326434AC030 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B6134AC02F for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rbinnj@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.45] ([72.79.15.231]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR5003MIKO5O6X5@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:33:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACCC2E1.8010307@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:33:37 -0400 From: Russ Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 18:34:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accc306148201136683642 John Hermanson wrote: > I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions > going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option > or is the feature hidden somewhere? > ___________________________________ Always "improving" eboy moves things around. Look down in the lower left under preferences/show only/completed listings. Russ Butler (NJ USA) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 18:44:57 2009 Received: (qmail 2602 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 16:44:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 16:44:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207FDE181AE for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D2EE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA92534AC02E for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B841E34AC02B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20091007164451H0300qdpcme>; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:44:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <7E8235FCE0FA45958817EA6133CF78EC@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz><4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 18:44:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accc58946221220213263 > You have to be signed in, then click advanced search. No, you don't have to go to advance search. It is an option on the left side of a regular search. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 19:45:26 2009 Received: (qmail 6575 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 17:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 17:45:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A16E181CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CC7E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B0519F0D4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC6119F0D9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091007174520253.ZUMG22985@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:45:20 +0000 Message-Id: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:45:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 19:45:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accd3b6202661879814018 Okay, so I was noodling around the internet earlier, perusing Point of Sale software in anticipation of opening a small gallery next year. Don't want anything fancy. Even the not-fancy system we have at the craft cooperative is too fancy, if you catch my drift. So I wandered onto a site with free POS software. Okay, it's Windows only, but that's okay, I'm thinking about using my Windows machine as my cash register anyway. There's a long post on the site about how the software came to be. I found the following line, and loved it, and thought it should be shared. "Error #2 was that there are people all over the earth who are writing tax laws, they do not talk to each other, and they are all INSANE." For those interested, the site is http://www.dhpos.com and I don't know if I'll wind up with the software or not, but it's been a lot of fun reading about it. At least the guy has got the global bureaucracy nailed. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:05:33 2009 Received: (qmail 25440 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:05:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187C0E18214 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0796BE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCD434AC058 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49BC3618007 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962FB4614BC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:31:52 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:05:22 +0100 Message-Id: <62681B46-9F9B-4F11-9B3F-A3604C0695A5@threeshoes.net> References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:05:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accd86d176561744846740 Thanks for the photos, Iwert. I have travelled through Antwerpen many = times, on the way to or from the sea ports, but I have never stopped =96 = mea culpa. Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 14:48, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > I'll take care of that the next delay... won't be long, knowing the N = > (MB)S :) > Last monday my first train was suspended, the second had a delay, = > the connection > in the Hague had a delay of 35 minutes so I took the tram and when > entering the safe > zone of the ministry of OCW the revolving door blocked on me. > Then traveling back home the train from Rotterdam to Antwerp was > suspended again... > luckily the beamer at the ministry of OCW in the Hague did work, I was > getting the feeling > it was me... the "broodjes" were as Dutch as ever however. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:08:09 2009 Received: (qmail 9239 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:08:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:08:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE93CE182A8 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE08E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691B534AC05D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:08:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA41B3610006 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3CF4616D2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:34:31 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:08:01 +0100 Message-Id: <434BB07C-836B-40E1-AD6C-96BED919ACD6@threeshoes.net> References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:08:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accd90964441076813867 Bob If you look at this plugin you will see that it works nicely with RapidWeaver: http://www.yabdab.com/payloom/ Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 18:45, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Okay, so I was noodling around the internet earlier, perusing Point of > Sale software in anticipation of opening a small gallery next year. > Don't want anything fancy. Even the not-fancy system we have at the > craft cooperative is too fancy, if you catch my drift. > > So I wandered onto a site with free POS software. Okay, it's Windows > only, but that's okay, I'm thinking about using my Windows machine as > my cash register anyway. There's a long post on the site about how the > software came to be. I found the following line, and loved it, and > thought it should be shared. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:11:42 2009 Received: (qmail 26105 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:11:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:11:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1943BE182B7 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BFAE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B376F19F2D3 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:11:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA82619F2D0 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42594616CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:38:06 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:11:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:11:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accd9de213011560218263 That's an evocative picture, Nathan. I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than its fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) Chris On 6 Oct 2009, at 12:06, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. > > This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB > > Nathan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:12:08 2009 Received: (qmail 18775 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:12:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:12:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC39CE1822E for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2003E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0D119F311 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8422119F326 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MvazY-0002gy-Dd for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:12:00 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:12:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accd9f8142831612113968 You definitely should move house and settle in NL, Iwert. You probably are enough 'verkaasd' already, like our 'broodjes' are... Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:48:58 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >Thanks Jez, > >I'll take care of that the next delay... won't be long, knowing the N(MB)S :) >Last monday my first train was suspended, the second had a delay, the connection >in the Hague had a delay of 35 minutes so I took the tram and when >entering the safe >zone of the ministry of OCW the revolving door blocked on me. >Then traveling back home the train from Rotterdam to Antwerp was >suspended again... >luckily the beamer at the ministry of OCW in the Hague did work, I was >getting the feeling >it was me... the "broodjes" were as Dutch as ever however. > >Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:23:29 2009 Received: (qmail 12433 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:23:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:23:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3762DE181D6 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDE2E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E934019F456 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE7E19F453 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MvbAZ-0004X8-Kd for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:23:23 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:23:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accdca1299471073733319 And on top of that, it will probably hold a nice position for your beloved Tony Blair (David Cameron not intervening next year, that is) Frank van Lindert - feeling more European than Dutch now Utrecht EU. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:11:36 +0100, Chris Barker wrote: >That's an evocative picture, Nathan. > >I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I >should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than its >fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation >that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. > >But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) > >Chris > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 20:52:19 2009 Received: (qmail 4527 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:52:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:52:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB11E182A2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87901E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E663610002 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E90C34AC067 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:51603 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MvbcL-0002G6-By (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:52:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:52:02 +0200 Message-Id: <715383B6-889A-44EC-A565-9027077AB2CC@frozenlight.eu> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 20:52:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acce363150913900897491 Hi Chris, Compared to any national government, the budget of the EU is tiny, about 1.2% of EU VAT receipts (and no deficits allowed). I lived in Brussels for 5 years, working for a private company, not the EU. I find it the most livable city of all the places where I have lived. For a tourist there is not much beyond Grand' Place and the immediate area around it, but as a place to live Brussels is great. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > That's an evocative picture, Nathan. > > I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I > should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than its > fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation > that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. > > But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) > > Chris > > On 6 Oct 2009, at 12:06, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. >> >> This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB >> >> Nathan > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:03:56 2009 Received: (qmail 6617 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:03:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA725E181AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3156CE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2527B3610001 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DD63610004 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (stephan@vandenzegel.be whitelisted) Received: from postbode01.versateladsl.be (postbode01.versateladsl.be [94.104.65.91]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18190 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stephanVDZ.lan) ([94.108.246.192]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.versateladsl.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 7 Oct 2009 19:02:49 -0000 Message-Id: <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> From: "Stephan@vandenzegel.be" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:03:39 +0200 References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:03:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acce61c280881744846740 wat heb je tegen belg=EFe ? all those "cheeseheads" coming to my country for holidays and = weekends... on their motorbikes... noisy but they seem to like the local beer(s)... Le 7 oct. 09 =E0 20:11, Frank van Lindert a =E9crit : > You definitely should move house and settle in NL, Iwert. > You probably are enough 'verkaasd' already, like our 'broodjes' are... > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:48:58 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > >> Thanks Jez, >> >> I'll take care of that the next delay... won't be long, knowing the = >> N(MB)S :) >> Last monday my first train was suspended, the second had a delay, = >> the connection >> in the Hague had a delay of 35 minutes so I took the tram and when >> entering the safe >> zone of the ministry of OCW the revolving door blocked on me. >> Then traveling back home the train from Rotterdam to Antwerp was >> suspended again... >> luckily the beamer at the ministry of OCW in the Hague did work, I = >> was >> getting the feeling >> it was me... the "broodjes" were as Dutch as ever however. >> >> Iwert > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > Stephan VAN DEN ZEGEL 22 vieux Thier B-4570 Marchin Belgium -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:12:29 2009 Received: (qmail 27473 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:12:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A13DE182A0 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933B9E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CC73610003 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFCD3610001 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so5094313fxm.37 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.217 with SMTP id l25mr208154bkw.108.1254942733409; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm2770734fkd.58.2009.10.07.12.12.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:12:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:12:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpHTXEopIDe6nnDQMyWBGWJG7qD2wAM/XAg Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:12:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acce81d26351612113968 I have kept a copy of your comment Jim. It has been written with my Parker 51 in the Notes section of my "filofax". Dave -----Original Message----- From: Charles Geilfuss [mailto:charles.geilfuss@gmail.com] Sent: 07 October 2009 13:55 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones Well said Jim. I'm with you. Charlie On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Jim Couch wrote: > You can all keep your iPhones, Blackberry's and the lot, still running > on my Motorola L2 - just a phone, if I want music that's what the > stereo is for, internet, that is what the computer is for, and photos, > that is why I own so damn many cameras! When I am out and about, the > damn phone is intrusion enough without all the other crap! > > Jim (Luddite) Couch > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:17:17 2009 Received: (qmail 26274 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:17:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:17:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1748DE18200 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0809E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA271CD498 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81451CD492 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.superhosting.ca (mail.superhosting.ca [69.90.83.197]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2768 invoked by uid 399); 7 Oct 2009 19:13:48 -0000 Received: from bas1-toronto05-1176310250.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ?192.168.51.152?) (ownvolition01@ownvolition.com@70.29.17.234) by mail.superhosting.ca with ESMTPAM; 7 Oct 2009 19:13:48 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 70.29.17.234 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:17:09 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather Thread-Index: AcpHgsPQAlb3MrN2Ed6fFAAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <715383B6-889A-44EC-A565-9027077AB2CC@frozenlight.eu> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:17:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acce93d201961136683642 On 10/7/09 2:52 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > For a tourist there is not much beyond Grand' Place and the > immediate area around it... On my business trips to Brussels, after work I'd take the next train to Brugge/Bruges and spend the evening there, taking the last train back :-) . Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:18:29 2009 Received: (qmail 21720 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:18:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF4CE181AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0CAE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AB91CD492 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57831CD48A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:18:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.148]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1043741eyb.8 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.128.17 with SMTP id f17mr322975ebn.69.1254943100826; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.7? (d51533753.access.telenet.be [81.83.55.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm653559eyh.0.2009.10.07.12.18.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:18:19 -0700 (PDT) From: jez.cunningham@gmail.com To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:17:23 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: i-default Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:18:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acce98543171234514069 As a place to live I would go anywhere in Belgium EXCEPT Brussels! Jez -original message- Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather From: Nathan Wajsman Date: 07/10/2009 20:52 Hi Chris, Compared to any national government, the budget of the EU is tiny, about 1.2% of EU VAT receipts (and no deficits allowed). I lived in Brussels for 5 years, working for a private company, not the EU. I find it the most livable city of all the places where I have lived. For a tourist there is not much beyond Grand' Place and the immediate area around it, but as a place to live Brussels is great. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > That's an evocative picture, Nathan. > > I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I > should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than its > fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation > that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. > > But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) > > Chris > > On 6 Oct 2009, at 12:06, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. >> >> This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB >> >> Nathan > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:25:29 2009 Received: (qmail 1470 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:25:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49A1E181D8 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5D6E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FD03610003 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110563610005 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:51863 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Mvc8Q-0004ao-Jj (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:25:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:25:13 +0200 Message-Id: <85A41250-3D1B-4D74-95E1-762A3F71C6F5@frozenlight.eu> References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:25:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acceb29102244877110844 Jez, when I say Brussels I include Overijse, Hoeilaart, Jezus-Eik, La Hulpe and all those other suburbs, however politically incorrect it may be to call them that. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:17 PM, jez.cunningham@gmail.com wrote: > As a place to live I would go anywhere in Belgium EXCEPT Brussels! > Jez > -original message- > Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather > From: Nathan Wajsman > Date: 07/10/2009 20:52 > > Hi Chris, > > Compared to any national government, the budget of the EU is tiny, > about 1.2% of EU VAT receipts (and no deficits allowed). > > I lived in Brussels for 5 years, working for a private company, not > the EU. I find it the most livable city of all the places where I have > lived. For a tourist there is not much beyond Grand' Place and the > immediate area around it, but as a place to live Brussels is great. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> That's an evocative picture, Nathan. >> >> I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I >> should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than >> its >> fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation >> that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. >> >> But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) >> >> Chris >> >> On 6 Oct 2009, at 12:06, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> >>> Last night in Brussels, now back in Alicante. >>> >>> This is what Place Stephanie looked like around 8 p.m. last night: >>> >>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Picture-A-Day/4253606_netUM#672042083_ATBGn-O-LB >>> >>> Nathan >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:28:46 2009 Received: (qmail 18653 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:28:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFEAE18147 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8C7E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905D1CD494 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2638A1CD485 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MvcBk-0005UO-1B for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:28:40 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:28:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> In-Reply-To: <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:28:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accebee58661879814018 I like Belgium, and also the people living there, Stephan. I often come and visit BTW, and not only for the beers - and enjoyable they are! Actually my last holiday was in Kanne - only a few hundred metres south of the border between our countries. Many motorbikes indeed there, Dutch, Belgian and German alike. I ate a delicious meal of mussels there (originating from....?) And we have to live with the Belgian (and French) tourists who come to the Netherlands only because of our supply of local weed(s) ;-) It's called economy, I believe. Frank. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:03:39 +0200, Stephan@vandenzegel.be wrote: >wat heb je tegen belg=EFe ? > >all those "cheeseheads" coming to my country for holidays and = >weekends... on their motorbikes... noisy > >but they seem to like the local beer(s)... -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:32:16 2009 Received: (qmail 12458 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:32:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F36E182A2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5C9E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7F3610005 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4D33610003 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so5112037fxm.37 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.216 with SMTP id p24mr239461bkw.16.1254943902589; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm2579518fkr.53.2009.10.07.12.31.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:31:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <006101ca46aa$884b2090$98e161b0$@com> <14883a8b0910070731o70bf9621s571b124a31b46168@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:31:31 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910070731o70bf9621s571b124a31b46168@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpHWusSjyJYSAE7S/qQzp5q7gww9QAKVh8g Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:32:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accecc0157822517112723 Silver Nosed F Zuiko Auto-T : 108469 Dave -----Original Message----- From: Charles Geilfuss [mailto:charles.geilfuss@gmail.com] Sent: 07 October 2009 15:32 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 Jeff, I pulled out my 200/5 to check. It is a black nosed but with a serial number smack in the middle of the posted silver nose range (1106xx). Charlie On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Keller wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > Your 116,xxx puts yours in the middle of the SC versions I've seen. > > silver nosed: 100248 - 111124 > black nosed: 111588 - 121624 > zuiko MC: 130291 > > I'm sure my serial no. list has some errors. It helps build confidence > or to investigate errors when I hear about others. > > It seems there were fewer 200/5 zuikos built than M-1 bodies. > > http://www.jkeller.com/zuiko-ser-nos.htm > > > Jeff Keller > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos J. Santisteban [mailto:zuiko21@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:33 AM > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: Re: [OM] WTB: 200mm f5 > > Hi Jeff and all, > > > From: "Jeff Keller" > > >The Zuiko 200mm f5 was made in a MC version. Just going by the serial nos. > > >there were about 11,000 Ag Schnozzed; somewhere between 11,000 and > >19,000 > > >black nosed F. Zuiko 200mm f5 lenses. > > > Mine (NOT for sale) is #116xxx, blacknosed and single-coated -- but, > unlike the 135/3.5, this doesn't seem an issue with it. > > > >I think I've seen about 3 MC lenses > > >show up on ebay but could only read one serial no. at about 130000. > > > I believe there were some multicoated 200/5 with the 'Zuiko'-only > lettering. > Cheers, > -- > Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas > IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:43:12 2009 Received: (qmail 21291 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:43:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:43:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D3FE181BA for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E46E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD113610005 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BED8361000B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091007194302336.SMU12917@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:43:02 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <434BB07C-836B-40E1-AD6C-96BED919ACD6@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:43:01 -0400 References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> <434BB07C-836B-40E1-AD6C-96BED919ACD6@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:43:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accef50314801744846740 Thanx, Chris, Bookmarked for future reference. Actually, though, I'm looking for Point of Sale, as in cash register program for people who walk in the door and want to spend money--Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise. But if I get them to do that, I'll need to spiff up the web stuff and be able to take money there, too. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Bob > > If you look at this plugin you will see that it works nicely with > RapidWeaver: > > http://www.yabdab.com/payloom/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:44:46 2009 Received: (qmail 29969 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:44:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:44:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643F2E1822E for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E40BE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA441CD498 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133BE1CD494 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com (mail-yw0-f184.google.com [209.85.211.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so159793ywh.20 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.6.38 with SMTP id j38mr333872ani.138.1254944675189; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:44:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:44:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accefae221912439112457 > > And we have to live with the Belgian (and French) tourists who come to > the Netherlands only because of our supply of local weed(s) ;-) I believe that has come to a rather abrupt end recently... > It's called economy, I believe. > > Frank. > ps: about the only place I would move to in the Netherlands would be Maastricht. Definitely not below sea level :-) Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:46:26 2009 Received: (qmail 8355 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:46:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B482E18256 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6471E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937261CD49A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316871CD494 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091007194617388.UHXJ14562@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:46:17 +0000 Message-Id: <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:46:16 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:46:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accf01130309730998309 Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:12 PM, David Bell wrote: > I have kept a copy of your comment Jim. It has been written with my > Parker > 51 in the Notes section of my "filofax". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 21:46:49 2009 Received: (qmail 25121 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 19:46:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EEFE1822C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CE5E240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA81CD48A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEF71CD494 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (stephan@vandenzegel.be whitelisted) Received: from postbode02.versateladsl.be (postbode02.versateladsl.be [94.104.65.92]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 698 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 19:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stephanVDZ.lan) ([94.108.246.192]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.versateladsl.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 7 Oct 2009 19:46:01 -0000 Message-Id: From: "Stephan@vandenzegel.be" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:46:37 +0200 References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 21:46:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accf02941071612113968 local products... .... mmm Le 7 oct. 09 =E0 21:28, Frank van Lindert a =E9crit : > I like Belgium, and also the people living there, Stephan. > I often come and visit BTW, and not only for the beers - and enjoyable > they are! > Actually my last holiday was in Kanne - only a few hundred metres > south of the border between our countries. Many motorbikes indeed > there, Dutch, Belgian and German alike. > I ate a delicious meal of mussels there (originating from....?) > > And we have to live with the Belgian (and French) tourists who come to > the Netherlands only because of our supply of local weed(s) ;-) > > It's called economy, I believe. > > Frank. > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:03:39 +0200, Stephan@vandenzegel.be wrote: > >> wat heb je tegen belg=EFe ? >> >> all those "cheeseheads" coming to my country for holidays and >> weekends... on their motorbikes... noisy >> >> but they seem to like the local beer(s)... > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > Stephan VAN DEN ZEGEL 22 vieux Thier B-4570 Marchin Belgium -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Oct 7 22:18:59 2009 Received: (qmail 4702 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 20:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 20:18:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FCCE181CC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340EAE240E2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279C93610001 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BAD3610003 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MvcyJ-0008EJ-R7 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:18:51 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:18:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840910070637o171ddf25lf0048b2e0ad50360@mail.gmail.com> <76843AB5-036A-431D-852C-0039D9A330CF@vandenzegel.be> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 7 22:18:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4accf7b3178921136683642 Maastricht is my favourite too, Iwert. Actually there are only four cities where I would be happy live: Maastricht, Delft, Amsterdam, Utrecht (where I do). And in Belgium the choice would be rather limited as well: Gent, Antwerp, Liege and perhaps Leuven would be about it. Notice the two common denominators? If you do, you have great taste! Frank. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:44:35 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> >> And we have to live with the Belgian (and French) tourists who come to >> the Netherlands only because of our supply of local weed(s) ;-) > >I believe that has come to a rather abrupt end recently... > >> It's called economy, I believe. >> >> Frank. >> >ps: about the only place I would move to in the Netherlands would be >Maastricht. Definitely not below sea level :-) > >Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 00:15:35 2009 Received: (qmail 13609 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 22:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 22:15:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CA5E18212 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF98E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1290D34AC031 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DDB34AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so5888661ewy.14 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.146.6 with SMTP id y6mr5625231ebn.52.1254953706156; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm1053347eyd.5.2009.10.07.15.15.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:14:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> Thread-Index: AcpHhtupZwjzMaUAT8yAwEfYM0oTSAAFCv+w X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 00:15:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd1307317953900897491 Bob, I would guess UK manf. Aerometric colour Burgundy. With stainless steel innards and gold shrouded nib. Was my mothers who received it as a gift in 1953. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Whitmire [mailto:bwhitmire@roadrunner.com] Sent: 07 October 2009 20:46 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:12 PM, David Bell wrote: > I have kept a copy of your comment Jim. It has been written with my > Parker > 51 in the Notes section of my "filofax". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 00:27:16 2009 Received: (qmail 22842 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 22:27:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 22:27:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E310E1824D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC3E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B461CD487 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068D51CD485 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MveyS-0005g2-K2 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:27:08 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACD15B8.1060806@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:27:04 +0100 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 00:27:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd15c4239481076813867 That's just not funny mate... :-( He's an absolute **** , even the EU doesn't deserve that. Frank van Lindert wrote: > And on top of that, it will probably hold a nice position for your > beloved Tony Blair (David Cameron not intervening next year, that is) > > Frank van Lindert - feeling more European than Dutch now > Utrecht EU. > > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:11:36 +0100, Chris Barker wrote: > > >> That's an evocative picture, Nathan. >> >> I have some lovely photos of Brussels, but it's not a place that I >> should fight to return to. It's bl**din' expensive, has more than its >> fair share of ripoff artists and is home to an enormous organisation >> that wastes, or embezzles, a whole pile of European taxpayers' money. >> >> But I do like the look of the place ... ;-) >> >> Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 02:23:36 2009 Received: (qmail 3416 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 00:23:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 00:23:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ADCE182A4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECB9E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACCA1CD492 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926F1CD485 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sgomez.baja@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com (mail-px0-f185.google.com [209.85.216.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so5194374pxi.26 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.1.40 with SMTP id 40mr47562wfa.83.1254961407018; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5bc0258e0910062021u18d5de5bjcffc0103bc397bdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:23:26 -0700 Message-ID: <5bc0258e0910071723qa12b00axb4bd68d3bcc35082@mail.gmail.com> From: Scott Gomez To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 02:23:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd3108107201413256596 I definitely missed the "3 phones" part of your message. Adding 3x data charges would be a bit pricey. I was with the rest of the avowed luddites about my cell phone until the price for the 3G came down--I owned a cheap basic phone. Changes at work and moving to a location with better coverage, however, finally pushed me to getting something with which I can receive email in near-real-time. It's saved me more than one trip to the office already. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > 3G phones with 8GB are only $99 with the usual 2 year plan. Rich I am > not. > > iPhoned I am. > > > > > Yeah, but add three more phones and try to have a usable plan. It gets > pricey. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 04:45:54 2009 Received: (qmail 28263 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 02:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 02:45:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DB8E18146 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3638AE240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEFB34AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA634AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A59750531; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0206.4abd27cb.23832ed; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:45:43 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzVJXdoTlCwIAAAAC,869c6ad96a0313ba40a6122f403ac5db X-Vipre-Scanned: 009E853800153B009E8685-TDI Message-ID: <4ACD5255.4090803@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:45:41 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion , deebel@googlemail.com References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 04:45:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd52623881136683642 :) Nice - although I tend to lean toward Omas pens myself, the 51 has always struck me as a very attractive pen! Jim Couch David Bell wrote: > I have kept a copy of your comment Jim. It has been written with my Parker > 51 in the Notes section of my "filofax". > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Geilfuss [mailto:charles.geilfuss@gmail.com] > Sent: 07 October 2009 13:55 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones > > Well said Jim. I'm with you. > > Charlie > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Jim Couch > wrote: > > >> You can all keep your iPhones, Blackberry's and the lot, still running >> on my Motorola L2 - just a phone, if I want music that's what the >> stereo is for, internet, that is what the computer is for, and photos, >> that is why I own so damn many cameras! When I am out and about, the >> damn phone is intrusion enough without all the other crap! >> >> Jim (Luddite) Couch >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 04:56:18 2009 Received: (qmail 17727 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 02:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 02:56:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898C7E181BA for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B469E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93811CD48A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E331CD485 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jgettis81@earthlink.net whitelisted) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.175.66.59] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MvjAr-0007KW-Sf for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:56:14 -0400 Message-ID: <380-22009104825614587@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows) From: "jgettis81@earthlink.net" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:56:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 6b7b8904845c0a29efb139d2bf51ae107e972de0d01da9400b14bcdceb7a3343866dfbf1684173c3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.175.66.59 Subject: Re: [OM] Antwerp CS delay X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 04:56:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd54d2237502517112723 The first one of the "boys almost looks like it could be in a fashion ad John PS I still prefer the girls in the surf -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 04:57:35 2009 Received: (qmail 17476 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 02:57:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 02:57:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B275DE18148 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676B2E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4811834AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:57:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7634AC024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n982vRv9032001 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:57:27 +1100 Message-Id: <200910080257.n982vRv9032001@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:57:27 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:57:27 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Digital 3d meeting in Ohio last night X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 04:57:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd551f193829730998309 > DrT \(George Themelis\) wrote: > > And I have never posted 3d pictures. The issue of format is confusing. > Side-by-side for freeviewing parallel? Cross-viewing? Anaglyph? > Whatever was used for the club logo from one of the links you posted a while back was fine for me. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 05:08:16 2009 Received: (qmail 282 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 03:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 03:08:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665ECE181D6 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D59E240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18F1CD48D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163811CD48A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9838A9x022385 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:08:10 +1100 Message-Id: <200910080308.n9838A9x022385@mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:08:10 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:08:10 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 05:08:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd57a0298972013633067 > Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the > modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? > Left or right haded ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 05:08:58 2009 Received: (qmail 3562 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 03:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 03:08:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6804E182A2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231AE240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B0F34AC026 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A457F34AC025 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9838pTI031897 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:08:52 +1100 Message-Id: <200910080308.n9838pTI031897@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:08:51 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:08:51 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 05:08:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd57ca48092013633067 > Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the > modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? > Left or right handed ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 06:06:42 2009 Received: (qmail 26091 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 04:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 04:06:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E09DE181B9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC6EE240CB for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C0E1CD485 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5051CD48D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0220.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5B164F30 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:06:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0220 Received: by dm0220.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0220.4a92db75.295471 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:04:13 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzWS9lAmx8gIAAAAB,eef0fa8a2eb81c743ba00526d1d6eefc X-Vipre-Scanned: 00E8909000153B00E891DD-TDI Message-ID: <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:06:33 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 06:06:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acd6552130981879814018 So the 620 has been in my hands for a few weeks. Unfortunately not a lot of time to actually take photos, but i have fired off some. So far I am really liking the little rig. It is so small and compact I even bought a new bag to carry it with! A few comments/observations: (Note that this is the first E system camera I have ever actually used or spent more than just a few minutes with and that my last digital rig was Nik*n, most of my comments are in relation to that system, not the E system. Menus & setup - For the most part I am very happy. I know that Olympus has taken some hits based on the menu system, and I can certainly see some room for improvement, but the 620 at least is no worse than the Nik*ns I used (D200 and D70) There is a high degree of customization, and for the most part I have the camera working how I want. there are a few settings I will need to play with some more, but all in all I am very satisfied with the setup. One thing missing that was a surprise to me, is that you cannot set up a user comment (such as copyright notice) to be written to the files EXIF. I find this a major oversight, but perhaps it is not an issue on the 620 (is it available in the E-3 and E-30 - if not it really should be!) Speed & handling - This is very important to me, and by and large the 620 does not disappoint here. Frame rate (while not blistering fast) is more than adequate for my needs. Settings that need to be changed quickly are for the most part easily accessed. The few times I have been disappointed I found the button/interface that I needed later - it all seems to be there, it will just take more familiarity with the camera I think. A few niggling things that I have yet to figure out: The 'super control panel" - it works fine, but... I sure would like to turn the damn thing off! Most of the time when I change a setting it is with the camera to my eye and I use the viewfinder information to make the change, it is very irritating to have the SCP come on, especially when setting exposure compensation! So far my workaround is to just keep the screen turned toward the camera body, but it makes it hard to chimp when needed. It would nice to be able to turn off, and set the timeout on the SCP just like the Review screen - perhaps in a firmware upgrade this will be added? So far my impression is that the autofocus in low light is not as fast or 'hunt'-free as my D200 was (comparing with similar lenses as best I can) In good light the autofocus seems to be fine. I still have a lot of tuning/learning to do with the autofocus so do not take this at face value. I did expect better low light autofocus performance with the 25mm f/2.8 pancake. Controls are easily accessible and layout is excellent, especially for such a small body. I have large (but not huge) hands and I have no problems with the layout and grip of the camera. it is a big change from the D200, but very reminiscent of the OMs, small but with a great layout. handling is excellent. Lenses - Currently I have the two kit lenses, the 9-18, and the 25 f/2.8. I have to admit to having a real bias against lenses with plastic mounts, but the build quality on the two kit lenses is actually quite good. it remains to be seen how these hold up long term, but for their weight and cost they are quite nice lenses, no looseness, and amazingly sharp! the 9-18 and 25 have metal lens mounts and better build quality as one would expect given the price. Overall I am very impressed and pleased with the Olympus lenses, but then again I always did like Zuikos! One thing that did surprise me is hos flimsy all the hoods seem to be, it is probably really a non-issue, but in comparison to the Tokina ATX hoods they are a bit disappointing. Image Quality - To soon to really tell, but so far no disappointments here. I usually shoot RAW and will need to find a new RAW processor (as I formerly used Nikon's Capture NX) so there will be an increased learning curve here. Other observations - Battery life seems to be just fine. with light shooting, and a LOT of time playing with the menus & settings (lots of screen access) the battery still has juice after a week. I suspect that I should have no problem with my typical shooting getting through an entire long (3 day) weekend with two batteries. Metering seems fine, but different from the Nik*ns. The ESP meter seems to be giving me a bit different results than Nik*n's matrix metering. the problem with any matrix metering is that while it works great most of the time, when it doesn't it is hard to tell what it is doing and override accordingly. It will take some learning here to get a handle on what Olympus is doing. Spot and average metering seem to be very consistent and I suspect I will be using those a lot until i get a handle on the Olympus ESP. The viewfinder is nothing fantastic, but better than I had been led to believe. The finder is smaller and appears to be not as bright as my D200 was, but only marginally so. It does work well with glasses and i find it easy to see the whole finder as well as the information at the bottom. The finder information is great and has pretty much all the info I need. I miss the grid lines of the D200, but it is not a big deal. I am actually more satisfied with the finder than I expected to be. I have not used the internal flash a lot, and probably won't. Never like the D200 flash either. Personally i wish they would leave off these internal flashes. If I need/want a flash I will use a proper one. I will probably pick up one of the Olympus flashes and a cord for when I need flash. I also ordered one of the Wein safsync units so i can use the camera with my studio lights. The E-20 uses a non-standard USB cable. This is a bit irritating and I suspect this will be a bit of a problem as I seem prone to misplacing cables. I will need to find a safe, consistent place to store this thing. since I use it on three different computers, I can't just leave it plugged into a the computer. I have already ordered a spare! :) The manual (like most of them) sucks although I have to admit I have seen worse. You are constantly referred to other pages, so one is always flipping back and forth. Won't be much of an issue once I learn the camera and have it set up. Overall, i am very happy with the camera. If it seems like I have a lot of complaints here, it is because by and large most of the features and use are in some ways unremarkable - and not in a bad way. The E-620 for the most part just gets out of my way and lets me take pictures, which is what I want. More to follow as I get more time with the rig. I will be out climbing this weekend, which will be my first real chance to use the camera under the circumstances I really purchased it for, after that I suspect I will have more comments I am sure. Jim Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 12:54:55 2009 Received: (qmail 24612 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 10:54:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 10:54:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67522E181B9 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9DFE240CB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8203634AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:54:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A7A34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:54:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DF94616D6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:21:16 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:54:45 +0100 Message-Id: <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 12:54:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdc4ff88732013633067 Ah, another fetish! I don't have a Parker 51; my flying instructor colleague has 2, though, each of which has a broken clip after having been kept in his flying suit. They tend to leak when he is airborne, of course, but he really loves them. I have a Parker 75 in Sterling Silver which I inherited, with a matching ballpoint pen, from my late father. It's a beautiful set but there is something special and subtle about the 51 and the way it writes. I also have a Mont Blanc in burgundy, a Cross, stainless steel and blue, a Rotring Newton set in black and 2 Pilot Capless pens. But I'm not obsessed with pens or anything ... Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:14, David Bell wrote: > Bob, > > I would guess UK manf. Aerometric colour Burgundy. With stainless > steel > innards and gold shrouded nib. Was my mothers who received it as a > gift in > 1953. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Whitmire] > Sent: 07 October 2009 20:46 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones > > Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the > modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:10:07 2009 Received: (qmail 5671 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:10:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:10:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB46DE1819D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F233E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D434AC028 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA5334AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1054616E3 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:36:31 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:10:00 +0100 Message-Id: <505ED74E-4A8B-4FF6-AE2E-B3C6E3DE858F@threeshoes.net> References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:10:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdc88f231091258626592 Thanks for that update, Jim; I enjoyed reading it. You mention hoods, but do you have the metal hood for the 25? Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 05:06, Jim Couch wrote: > Currently I have the two kit lenses, the 9-18, and the 25 f/2.8. I > have > to admit to having a real bias against lenses with plastic mounts, but > the build quality on the two kit lenses is actually quite good. it > remains to be seen how these hold up long term, but for their weight > and > cost they are quite nice lenses, no looseness, and amazingly sharp! > the > 9-18 and 25 have metal lens mounts and better build quality as one > would > expect given the price. Overall I am very impressed and pleased with > the > Olympus lenses, but then again I always did like Zuikos! One thing > that > did surprise me is hos flimsy all the hoods seem to be, it is probably > really a non-issue, but in comparison to the Tokina ATX hoods they > are a > bit disappointing. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:11:40 2009 Received: (qmail 2718 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:11:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC10E18229 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5795EE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962F34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0649A34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E33F4616E3 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:05 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:11:34 +0100 Message-Id: <802C29EE-73BE-44F5-9AAF-6B8BCF5A329C@threeshoes.net> References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:11:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdc8ec212841136683642 Yes, that is very annoying. But I use a card reader for CF and xD cards. My MacBook Pro has a SD card reader for my G7 and LX3. Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 05:06, Jim Couch wrote: > > The E-20 uses a non-standard USB cable. This is a bit irritating and I > suspect this will be a bit of a problem as I seem prone to misplacing > cables. I will need to find a safe, consistent place to store this > thing. since I use it on three different computers, I can't just leave > it plugged into a the computer. I have already ordered a spare! :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:12:43 2009 Received: (qmail 18614 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:12:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A276E181CF for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F07E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3742334AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:12:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E955434AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:12:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A694616DB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:45 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:12:14 +0100 Message-Id: <6F6E46C8-8F1F-4BD7-A0A3-D521E90BF400@threeshoes.net> References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> <434BB07C-836B-40E1-AD6C-96BED919ACD6@threeshoes.net> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:12:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdc92b185982517112723 Ah, I misunderstood, Bob. But good luck with both endeavours ... Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 20:43, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Bookmarked for future reference. Actually, though, I'm looking for > Point of Sale, as in cash register program for people who walk in the > door and want to spend money--Good Lord willing and the creek don't > rise. But if I get them to do that, I'll need to spiff up the web > stuff and be able to take money there, too. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:17:21 2009 Received: (qmail 21576 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:17:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA5EE181AC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B98E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EE519E366 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0EA19E36D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CB44616DE for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:43:43 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:17:12 +0100 Message-Id: <502F62C1-A66E-4F76-A876-3471C902BA0B@threeshoes.net> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:17:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdca41326345368819438 Beloved, Frank? I think not, old bean. He has redeemed himself somewhat by converting to the RC church, but I really don't want a president of the EU, much less Mr Blair. Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 19:23, Frank van Lindert wrote: > And on top of that, it will probably hold a nice position for your > beloved Tony Blair (David Cameron not intervening next year, that is) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:22:12 2009 Received: (qmail 13038 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:22:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0739DE181AE for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A20E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526D419E3A5 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5CB19E392 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B30F4616E4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:48:37 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <715383B6-889A-44EC-A565-9027077AB2CC@frozenlight.eu> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:22:05 +0100 Message-Id: <42F3BC64-075F-46EC-BB13-D0FDCA2D119C@threeshoes.net> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> <715383B6-889A-44EC-A565-9027077AB2CC@frozenlight.eu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:22:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdcb6449911234514069 Thanks, Nathan. I accept your recommendation for Brussels. I had some bad experiences both in Brussels and at SHAPE; I find that a multinational organisation, such as NATO and the EU, allow for too many mediocre performers, allowed to remain in the interests of diplomacy and goodwill. For instance, there was one general at my HQ in Brunssum, an administrator by branch, who did virtually nothing, but he had to be there to allow that nation to have its fair share. I left AFNORTH thinking that the EU was a waste of time and money; the invasion of Iraq changed that for me, but we really do have to control the budget and accountability .. Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 19:52, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I lived in Brussels for 5 years, working for a private company, not > the EU. I find it the most livable city of all the places where I have > lived. For a tourist there is not much beyond Grand' Place and the > immediate area around it, but as a place to live Brussels is great. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:23:11 2009 Received: (qmail 27333 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:23:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:23:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6724E18245 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13757E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02BA19E3BB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9712719E3B0 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E7A4616DE for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:49:00 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:22:29 +0100 Message-Id: <74891406-AEF4-46A0-A71B-211D20EC2312@threeshoes.net> References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:23:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdcb9f216611234514069 Yes, Michael, that's a great place to be. Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 20:17, Michael Collins wrote: > > On my business trips to Brussels, after work I'd take the next train > to > Brugge/Bruges and spend the evening there, taking the last train > back :-) . -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:24:12 2009 Received: (qmail 17974 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:24:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:24:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F31E181D6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A34CE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5726319E3C9 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:23:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFAF19E3B0 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:23:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B03A4616DF for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:50:06 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACD15B8.1060806@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:23:35 +0100 Message-Id: <91E5C4C3-87AA-49A8-9CB1-8457D9205C08@threeshoes.net> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> <4ACD15B8.1060806@m93.myzen.co.uk> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:24:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdcbdc174511612113968 Amen ... Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:27, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > That's just not funny mate... :-( > He's an absolute **** , even the EU doesn't deserve that. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 13:49:34 2009 Received: (qmail 20082 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 11:49:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 11:49:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B99E18277 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C157E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC8434AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:49:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2AD34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:49:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (daniel.sepke@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.147]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so1871117qwa.26 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.25.6 with SMTP id x6mr1009701qab.30.1255002568491; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DSPT60 (mail.sms.edu [216.174.58.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm897229qwd.47.2009.10.08.04.49.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Sepke" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:49:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4acdd1c7.c6c1f10a.4507.5d17@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpHzL3/fTi/wBtiTlGoHxecFTqUjwAP3oog Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 13:49:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdd1ce203791073733319 Jim, Couple of tips for you. The SCP can be toggled on and off with the info button when in shooting mode (in review mode it cycles through the display options). Regarding the file tagging with copyright as far as I am aware none of the E System bodies have that feature though I can see where it would be very handy. The file name can be customized on the E-3 at least within the general format that Olympus use, I changed mine so it would have different leading letter so when I intermingle E-420 & E-3 files they don't get mixed up so easily. Finally you may want check for the USB cable from Cyberguys.com their pricing is pretty good and I believe they carry the right type for the triple digit E bodies (no connection other than a happy repeat customer). Dan S. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Couch Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! So the 620 has been in my hands for a few weeks. Unfortunately not a lot of time to actually take photos, but i have fired off some. So far I am really liking the little rig. It is so small and compact I even bought a new bag to carry it with! A few comments/observations: (Note that this is the first E system camera I have ever actually used or spent more than just a few minutes with and that my last digital rig was Nik*n, most of my comments are in relation to that system, not the E system. Menus & setup - For the most part I am very happy. I know that Olympus has taken some hits based on the menu system, and I can certainly see some room for improvement, but the 620 at least is no worse than the Nik*ns I used (D200 and D70) There is a high degree of customization, and for the most part I have the camera working how I want. there are a few settings I will need to play with some more, but all in all I am very satisfied with the setup. One thing missing that was a surprise to me, is that you cannot set up a user comment (such as copyright notice) to be written to the files EXIF. I find this a major oversight, but perhaps it is not an issue on the 620 (is it available in the E-3 and E-30 - if not it really should be!) Speed & handling - This is very important to me, and by and large the 620 does not disappoint here. Frame rate (while not blistering fast) is more than adequate for my needs. Settings that need to be changed quickly are for the most part easily accessed. The few times I have been disappointed I found the button/interface that I needed later - it all seems to be there, it will just take more familiarity with the camera I think. A few niggling things that I have yet to figure out: The 'super control panel" - it works fine, but... I sure would like to turn the damn thing off! Most of the time when I change a setting it is with the camera to my eye and I use the viewfinder information to make the change, it is very irritating to have the SCP come on, especially when setting exposure compensation! So far my workaround is to just keep the screen turned toward the camera body, but it makes it hard to chimp when needed. It would nice to be able to turn off, and set the timeout on the SCP just like the Review screen - perhaps in a firmware upgrade this will be added? The E-20 uses a non-standard USB cable. This is a bit irritating and I suspect this will be a bit of a problem as I seem prone to misplacing cables. I will need to find a safe, consistent place to store this thing. since I use it on three different computers, I can't just leave it plugged into a the computer. I have already ordered a spare! :) Jim Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:02:24 2009 Received: (qmail 25302 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:02:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB46BE1822D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F85E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581D19E532 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:02:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8932819E540 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so503603ewy.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:02:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.133 with SMTP id y5mr340688wee.139.1255003335165; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:02:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <502F62C1-A66E-4F76-A876-3471C902BA0B@threeshoes.net> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> <502F62C1-A66E-4F76-A876-3471C902BA0B@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:02:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 48be89530b123c83 Message-ID: <9f07ac840910080502o69076555jbd5ef7a76a68c09d@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:02:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdd4d050753900897491 He's pushing to be the next Pope isn't he? On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Beloved, Frank? I think not, old bean. He has redeemed himself > somewhat by converting to the RC church, but I really don't want a > president of the EU, much less Mr Blair. > > Chris > > On 7 Oct 2009, at 19:23, Frank van Lindert wrote: > > > And on top of that, it will probably hold a nice position for your > > beloved Tony Blair (David Cameron not intervening next year, that is) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:12:31 2009 Received: (qmail 21546 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:12:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6083CE1824D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B72E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7423F19E66E for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1884319E65D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Mvrr4-0004RQ-8u for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:12:22 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Mvrr3-0005XW-Oj for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:12:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACDD723.2030906@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:12:19 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> <502F62C1-A66E-4F76-A876-3471C902BA0B@threeshoes.net> <9f07ac840910080502o69076555jbd5ef7a76a68c09d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910080502o69076555jbd5ef7a76a68c09d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:12:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdd72f165647801554290 Jez Cunningham wrote: > He's pushing to be the next Pope isn't he? > No offence meant to anyone but TBliar, but I hope he's the next JFK... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:36:56 2009 Received: (qmail 146 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:36:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:36:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BC2E18212 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAB7E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D8C34AC029 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8F234AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:36:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.73]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR7007TS4CQBW74@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACDDCD0.3010309@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:36:32 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> <4ACCC2E1.8010307@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <4ACCC2E1.8010307@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:36:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acddce898901357919056 Yes, but that only shows completed auctions going back 2 weeks. I think they used to allow you pick how far back you wanted to go. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Russ Butler wrote: > John Hermanson wrote: >> I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions >> going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option >> or is the feature hidden somewhere? >> ___________________________________ > > Always "improving" eboy moves things around. > Look down in the lower left under preferences/show only/completed listings. > > > Russ Butler (NJ USA) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:41:20 2009 Received: (qmail 11206 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:41:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:41:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF99E181CB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D317E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478B734AC029 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008F534AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008124114095.PARC14562@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:41:14 +0000 Message-Id: <7B6A1734-0357-4CA0-9198-BF293FB7632F@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:41:13 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:41:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdddf0176976789618724 Yeah, the Vacs were long gone by '53. Last one was late '40s, as I recall. The aeros were much better, and far less messy. Not a lot of difference between US and UK versions, except the UK got a wider variety of nibs to choose from. There was a time when I was trading in fountain pens that a UK Parker 51 with a broad stub nib would bring large bucks. I don't know how the market is now. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 6:14 PM, David Bell wrote: > I would guess UK manf. Aerometric colour Burgundy. With stainless > steel > innards and gold shrouded nib. Was my mothers who received it as a > gift in > 1953. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:47:17 2009 Received: (qmail 24550 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:47:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A830E18256 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E985E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9C619E7D6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:47:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3508819E7C9 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:47:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008124711490.VLAI16663@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:47:11 +0000 Message-Id: <7C07162D-84FE-4A7B-87DC-A88A8E58E917@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4ACD5255.4090803@spokeandsprocket.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:47:10 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <4ACD5255.4090803@spokeandsprocket.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:47:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acddf5568751073733319 Omas may be the "best" modern fountain pen, with the possible exception of Pelikan, which is my personal favorite. There's also Visconti, which makes, or made, a fine pen. Something about those Italians. They had/have the knack. If you really like pens, there's a guy in California, John Mottishaw www.nibs.com who sells pens, and also custom grinds nibs to your exact want or need. I've got a couple of "Mottishawed" pens and they write very well. If only my handwriting matched the tools I have to show it off. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Jim Couch wrote: > :) Nice - although I tend to lean toward Omas pens myself, the 51 has > always struck me as a very attractive pen! > > Jim Couch > > David Bell wrote: >> I have kept a copy of your comment Jim. It has been written with my >> Parker >> 51 in the Notes section of my "filofax". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:49:42 2009 Received: (qmail 29253 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:49:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:49:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B47E18255 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB9E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4398134AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0155934AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.73]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR70047R4XUNYEK@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:49:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACDDFC8.7060707@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:49:12 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <607B624B26754ECCAD59384DB4CE5825@home> In-reply-to: <607B624B26754ECCAD59384DB4CE5825@home> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Digital 3d meeting in Ohio last night X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:49:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acddfe650896789618724 Congratulations! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Last night was my indoctrination into digital 3d.... > > Our stereo club had a digital meeting & competition. We have had these for > 2 years now, but never entered (which hurts my standings) because I do not > take digital pictures and I am too lazy to scan my stereo slides. > > But I decided to enter last night. I had a few digital 3d pictures that I > shot in an hour with the borrowed Fuji 3d digital camera. I selected one of > these, a close up of our cat. > > Then, I scanned two stereo slides: One from our Orlando vacation, a picture > of a Troll with his HUGE nose coming out of the stereo window. Another, a > tabletop of a slinky sitting on a mirror (for extra reflection). > > I selected these entries and scanned the slides, just two hours before the > meeting (I am a big procrastinator) I had zero expectations. I figured, I > will get 3 points, just by entering 3 images, and I would be happy. > > Results: > > 1. Close up of the cat got an HM (2 pts) > 2. Slinky got 1st place (5 pts) > 3. Troll got 1st place and was voted "People's Choice" (6 pts total) > > Wow! I ended up with 13 pts and after two meetings at I am in first place! > > This digital thing is fun! > > My Fuji 3d camera is delivered tomorrow! > > I have a half marathon this weekend. I will run with the camera in my hands, > "dress rehearsal" for the Athens marathon on Nov. 8th! > > George > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:54:33 2009 Received: (qmail 5908 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:54:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:54:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A94E181A8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0729BE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0E319E7F4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EC219E7F6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so826326bwz.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:54:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.20 with SMTP id j20mr1037458bkd.57.1255006466730; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:54:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACDD723.2030906@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <312A1208-442C-4314-8C75-B796DE20D28D@frozenlight.eu> <502F62C1-A66E-4F76-A876-3471C902BA0B@threeshoes.net> <9f07ac840910080502o69076555jbd5ef7a76a68c09d@mail.gmail.com> <4ACDD723.2030906@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:54:26 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910080554n37599765k7f7dcd79d4db40e7@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:54:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde10991811234514069 Ouch! Charlie On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Donald wrote: > Jez Cunningham wrote: > > He's pushing to be the next Pope isn't he? > > > > No offence meant to anyone but TBliar, but I hope he's the next JFK... > > D. > > > -- > I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:55:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8763 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:55:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553F4E18228 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9812E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B990F19E7F4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6073719E7FC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008125444600.KMEW18886@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:54:44 +0000 Message-Id: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:54:44 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:55:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde14d85691342116753 Fetishes are what makes life the joy it can be (as long as they don't involve small children.) Suggest to your colleague that he fill his 51 to capacity before flying with it. That should alleviate the leak--either that, or _really_ make a mess. I never fly with a fountain pen unless it's empty, but I'm told if they're full, they don't tend to leak. The Parker 75 is an excellent pen, and the sterling version is one of the most beautiful pens ever produced. Writes pretty well, too. I had a few of them pass through my hands, but at the time the market for them was just too good to hold onto one. Same with the 51. I sold all of mine before I realized I'd done it. Still have a box of 51 parts, though. I might be able to cobble together a "Frankenpen." --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Ah, another fetish! > > I don't have a Parker 51; my flying instructor colleague has 2, > though, each of which has a broken clip after having been kept in his > flying suit. They tend to leak when he is airborne, of course, but he > really loves them. > > I have a Parker 75 in Sterling Silver which I inherited, with a > matching ballpoint pen, from my late father. It's a beautiful set but > there is something special and subtle about the 51 and the way it > writes. > > I also have a Mont Blanc in burgundy, a Cross, stainless steel and > blue, a Rotring Newton set in black and 2 Pilot Capless pens. But I'm > not obsessed with pens or anything ... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 14:59:49 2009 Received: (qmail 32309 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 12:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 12:59:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86EEE18255 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4640E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC0334AC02A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF9C34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so830094bwz.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:59:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.212 with SMTP id s20mr1027199bkf.101.1255006771941; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:59:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:31 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910080559w18ccf162g1a630f4d7fbf2198@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 14:59:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde245131713900897491 I haven't carried a fountain pen in pocket for years, but that makes sense; no bubble to expand with the change in cabin pressure. Charlie On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Fetishes are what makes life the joy it can be (as long as they don't > involve small children.) > > Suggest to your colleague that he fill his 51 to capacity before > flying with it. That should alleviate the leak--either that, or > _really_ make a mess. I never fly with a fountain pen unless it's > empty, but I'm told if they're full, they don't tend to leak. > > The Parker 75 is an excellent pen, and the sterling version is one of > the most beautiful pens ever produced. Writes pretty well, too. I had > a few of them pass through my hands, but at the time the market for > them was just too good to hold onto one. Same with the 51. I sold all > of mine before I realized I'd done it. Still have a box of 51 parts, > though. I might be able to cobble together a "Frankenpen." > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > On Oct 8, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > > > Ah, another fetish! > > > > I don't have a Parker 51; my flying instructor colleague has 2, > > though, each of which has a broken clip after having been kept in his > > flying suit. They tend to leak when he is airborne, of course, but he > > really loves them. > > > > I have a Parker 75 in Sterling Silver which I inherited, with a > > matching ballpoint pen, from my late father. It's a beautiful set but > > there is something special and subtle about the 51 and the way it > > writes. > > > > I also have a Mont Blanc in burgundy, a Cross, stainless steel and > > blue, a Rotring Newton set in black and 2 Pilot Capless pens. But I'm > > not obsessed with pens or anything ... > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:00:37 2009 Received: (qmail 29740 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:00:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:00:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7639E18255 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7567FE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832E34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72B534AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.73]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR700B4Z5GP0U0C@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:00:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACDE26F.50207@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:00:31 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:00:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde275270287801554290 what makes a difference on ebay look for 24mm f2 lens, it seems to make a big difference if you type in the f number as 2,0 (2 comma 0) instead of 2.0 (2 point 0). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Rick Beckrich wrote: > Still there. John. > > You have to be signed in, then click advanced search. > That's where it's buried now. > > Rick > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:07 PM, John Hermanson wrote: > >> I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions >> going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option >> or is the feature hidden somewhere? >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:06:49 2009 Received: (qmail 14311 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:06:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B119E18039 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50352E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CA134AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:06:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD17D34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:06:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.208.73]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KR700LNB5QU6C8J@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:06:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4ACDE3DC.9080805@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:06:36 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:06:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde3e928632439112457 That seems to be the only option for looking at old closed auctions. The results only go back a few weeks. The preference tab seems to have no way to expand that search criteria. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Rick Beckrich wrote: > Still there. John. > > You have to be signed in, then click advanced search. > That's where it's buried now. > > Rick > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:07 PM, John Hermanson wrote: > >> I know you used to be able to do ebay searches showing finished auctions >> going back over a certain time period. Did they eliminate that option >> or is the feature hidden somewhere? >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:21:12 2009 Received: (qmail 25459 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:21:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBB4E1822E for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CE8E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752EB34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4175834AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDAB731E1C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0207.4acc4831.3f86f6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:21:05 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzedBPWk7ngIAAAAB,feea3cca116fc4d6e58c855b6ec71131 X-Vipre-Scanned: 002CF1CE00153B002CF31B-TDI Message-ID: <4ACDE73F.8080406@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:21:03 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> <505ED74E-4A8B-4FF6-AE2E-B3C6E3DE858F@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <505ED74E-4A8B-4FF6-AE2E-B3C6E3DE858F@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:21:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acde74863001234514069 I don't have the hood for the 25 yet, it was not in stock when I ordered the lens. i do have one on the way now though. Jim Couch Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks for that update, Jim; I enjoyed reading it. > > You mention hoods, but do you have the metal hood for the 25? > > Chris > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:37:21 2009 Received: (qmail 7536 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:37:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77116E182A4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1258E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFF334AC028 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2C034AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0108.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0108.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3384CC385F8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0207.4acc4831.402f14 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:37:05 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzesBTSAFmQIAAAAB,583759e6929e3906da9b3847db2b30cb X-Vipre-Scanned: 003B951E00153B003B966B-TDI Message-ID: <4ACDEAFF.40805@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:37:03 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> <802C29EE-73BE-44F5-9AAF-6B8BCF5A329C@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <802C29EE-73BE-44F5-9AAF-6B8BCF5A329C@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:37:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdeb1113011560218263 I use a card reader most of the time as well, but since you must update firmware with Master (another irritation) I will need to be able to connect the camera to the computer at least some of the time. Jim Couch Chris Barker wrote: > Yes, that is very annoying. But I use a card reader for CF and xD > cards. My MacBook Pro has a SD card reader for my G7 and LX3. > > Chris > > On 8 Oct 2009, at 05:06, Jim Couch wrote: > > >> The E-20 uses a non-standard USB cable. This is a bit irritating and I >> suspect this will be a bit of a problem as I seem prone to misplacing >> cables. I will need to find a safe, consistent place to store this >> thing. since I use it on three different computers, I can't just leave >> it plugged into a the computer. I have already ordered a spare! :) >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:40:03 2009 Received: (qmail 8751 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:40:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C65E18245 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F6BE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97334AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B9734AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1637456fga.8 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.217.8 with SMTP id p8mr1150521fgg.73.1255009191277; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm1120755fgg.28.2009.10.08.06.39.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:39:40 +0100 Message-ID: <15372483D0BA4E6D9B11BE17040D9157@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpIBcRdntyip8T0Qm2fN7amvyLfkAAFoqYg Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:40:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdebb3241355034211378 Chris, I can recommend Peter Twydle at Hornsea to your colleague as he did a superb overhaul on one of my Parker 51's His website is here http://www.penmuseum.co.uk/index.html Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 08 October 2009 11:55 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones Ah, another fetish! I don't have a Parker 51; my flying instructor colleague has 2, though, each of which has a broken clip after having been kept in his flying suit. They tend to leak when he is airborne, of course, but he really loves them. I have a Parker 75 in Sterling Silver which I inherited, with a matching ballpoint pen, from my late father. It's a beautiful set but there is something special and subtle about the 51 and the way it writes. I also have a Mont Blanc in burgundy, a Cross, stainless steel and blue, a Rotring Newton set in black and 2 Pilot Capless pens. But I'm not obsessed with pens or anything ... Chris On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:14, David Bell wrote: > Bob, > > I would guess UK manf. Aerometric colour Burgundy. With stainless > steel innards and gold shrouded nib. Was my mothers who received it as > a gift in 1953. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Whitmire] > Sent: 07 October 2009 20:46 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones > > Would that be the Vacumatic version of the 51, the aerometric, or the > modern version released a few years ago? U.S. version, or British? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:41:01 2009 Received: (qmail 28228 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:41:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:41:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB31FE18148 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFD4E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDEA19EFD5 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF03B19F03C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4B731429 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0202.4a9c48ea.7041425 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:27 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzevLLIViNQIAAAAB,335a8ec9f0f85d5f324551345f5778b5 X-Vipre-Scanned: 003EABAA00153B003EACF7-TDI Message-ID: <4ACDEBC9.8040805@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:40:25 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> <4acdd1c7.c6c1f10a.4507.5d17@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4acdd1c7.c6c1f10a.4507.5d17@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:41:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdebed322185368819438 Dan, Thanks for the tips, I will give cyberguys.com a look. You can change the filenames the same way on the E-620 as well. I will probably wind up finding a file importing utility that will add the copyright tag and do it that way. I did discover that the menu button will turn off the SCP,, but that is one more button press during shooting. Jim Couch Daniel Sepke wrote: > Jim, > > Couple of tips for you. The SCP can be toggled on and off with the info > button when in shooting mode (in review mode it cycles through the display > options). Regarding the file tagging with copyright as far as I am aware > none of the E System bodies have that feature though I can see where it > would be very handy. The file name can be customized on the E-3 at least > within the general format that Olympus use, I changed mine so it would have > different leading letter so when I intermingle E-420 & E-3 files they don't > get mixed up so easily. Finally you may want check for the USB cable from > Cyberguys.com their pricing is pretty good and I believe they carry the > right type for the triple digit E bodies (no connection other than a happy > repeat customer). > > Dan S. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Couch > Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - > long post! > > So the 620 has been in my hands for a few weeks. Unfortunately not a lot > of time to actually take photos, but i have fired off some. So far I am > really liking the little rig. It is so small and compact I even bought a > new bag to carry it with! > > A few comments/observations: > > (Note that this is the first E system camera I have ever actually used > or spent more than just a few minutes with and that my last digital rig > was Nik*n, most of my comments are in relation to that system, not the E > system. > > Menus & setup - > For the most part I am very happy. I know that Olympus has taken some > hits based on the menu system, and I can certainly see some room for > improvement, but the 620 at least is no worse than the Nik*ns I used > (D200 and D70) There is a high degree of customization, and for the most > part I have the camera working how I want. there are a few settings I > will need to play with some more, but all in all I am very satisfied > with the setup. One thing missing that was a surprise to me, is that you > cannot set up a user comment (such as copyright notice) to be written to > the files EXIF. I find this a major oversight, but perhaps it is not an > issue on the 620 (is it available in the E-3 and E-30 - if not it really > should be!) > > Speed & handling - > This is very important to me, and by and large the 620 does not > disappoint here. Frame rate (while not blistering fast) is more than > adequate for my needs. Settings that need to be changed quickly are for > the most part easily accessed. The few times I have been disappointed I > found the button/interface that I needed later - it all seems to be > there, it will just take more familiarity with the camera I think. A few > niggling things that I have yet to figure out: The 'super control panel" > - it works fine, but... I sure would like to turn the damn thing off! > Most of the time when I change a setting it is with the camera to my eye > and I use the viewfinder information to make the change, it is very > irritating to have the SCP come on, especially when setting exposure > compensation! So far my workaround is to just keep the screen turned > toward the camera body, but it makes it hard to chimp when needed. It > would nice to be able to turn off, and set the timeout on the SCP just > like the Review screen - perhaps in a firmware upgrade this will be added? > > > > The E-20 uses a non-standard USB cable. This is a bit irritating and I > suspect this will be a bit of a problem as I seem prone to misplacing > cables. I will need to find a safe, consistent place to store this > thing. since I use it on three different computers, I can't just leave > it plugged into a the computer. I have already ordered a spare! :) > > > > Jim Couch > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:42:02 2009 Received: (qmail 12041 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:42:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:42:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6D9E181D8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3340E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BE134AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:41:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4CE34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:41:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so5671926fxm.37 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.13 with SMTP id n13mr85034hbn.9.1255009293502; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:41:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c41b9c039789a23 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:42:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdec2a177901234514069 > > Fetishes are what makes life the joy it can be... Whew. So my OM fetish is acceptable? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:45:54 2009 Received: (qmail 25135 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:45:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A562E1822B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB4EE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC53719F606 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820A419F605 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0220.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6050C64215 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0220 Received: by dm0220.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0220.4a92db75.2a8efb for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:43:24 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzex82ZqulAIAAAAB,db077aefd50cfa9046b9a16af0955dbb X-Vipre-Scanned: 0043911900153B00439266-TDI Message-ID: <4ACDED0A.4040705@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:45:46 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:45:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acded1277195034211378 I have flown many times with fountain pens, and can confirm that if they are full they do not leak, at least on airliners. When flying, either completely full or completely empty is the way to go. Jim Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 15:51:08 2009 Received: (qmail 32736 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 13:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 13:51:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4E3E181AC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3F0E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0239D34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D725434AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BE3731F7B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0202.4a9c48ea.70482dc for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:03 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKze5HsBAmgQIAAAAB,fc737d5eb1adc6e703afbe4ff363cd01 X-Vipre-Scanned: 0048600B00153B00486158-TDI Message-ID: <4ACDEE45.6020402@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:51:01 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <4ACD5255.4090803@spokeandsprocket.com> <7C07162D-84FE-4A7B-87DC-A88A8E58E917@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <7C07162D-84FE-4A7B-87DC-A88A8E58E917@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 15:51:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdee4c45896107113666 The Pelikans are very nice and I still own one. I have always lusted after one of the Visconti Wall Street LE pens, just plain beautiful! I can certainly concur on John, I have purchased a couple of Omas pens from him, and they do write very well. My handwriting is pretty much in direct contrast to the pens! :( Jim Couch Bob Whitmire wrote: > Omas may be the "best" modern fountain pen, with the possible > exception of Pelikan, which is my personal favorite. There's also > Visconti, which makes, or made, a fine pen. Something about those > Italians. They had/have the knack. > > If you really like pens, there's a guy in California, John Mottishaw www.nibs.com > who sells pens, and also custom grinds nibs to your exact want or > need. I've got a couple of "Mottishawed" pens and they write very > well. If only my handwriting matched the tools I have to show it off. > > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 16:34:16 2009 Received: (qmail 28593 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 14:34:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 14:34:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985DBE182A7 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934BCE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7300919E997 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF42119E6A1 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1655318fga.8 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:34:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.25 with SMTP id n25mr94362hbn.8.1255012447983; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:34:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACDED0A.4040705@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <4ACDED0A.4040705@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:34:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b712eaef84912cac Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 16:34:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdf868224136107113666 My experiences with fountain pens has always resulted in blobs of ink on the paper. I have the nasty habit of pausing while writing with the pen touching the paper. Maybe that's why I usually end up using $0.99 mechanical pencils. AG (i r n njunear) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 16:35:22 2009 Received: (qmail 8938 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 14:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 14:35:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E909E1824C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361A0E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BD119E6A1 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:35:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323C119F700 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1127975fgg.8 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.29 with SMTP id 29mr83233hbh.135.1255012497699; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACDEE45.6020402@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <4ACD5255.4090803@spokeandsprocket.com> <7C07162D-84FE-4A7B-87DC-A88A8E58E917@roadrunner.com> <4ACDEE45.6020402@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:34:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca64899ae67222d5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 16:35:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acdf8aa273721076813867 > > I can certainly concur on John, I have purchased a couple of Omas pens > from him, and they do write very well. My handwriting is pretty much in > direct contrast to the pens! :( > I should have been a doctor. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 17:17:01 2009 Received: (qmail 9644 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 15:17:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 15:17:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8874CE181DE for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406ACE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0890434AC02B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71C934AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.63]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 87264 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2009 15:16:55 -0000 Message-ID: <382197.87112.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ysStv9QVM1lcKwwGEcaHS3yqcmsRPckBMgfHR6n50TzR7YFt1A9fENIF1YUtloaWc3PfWxq83n56ZZ.0ZkSBxlW3NL2XDsJtn.9mY._6BJ9QQQqRUOkmA6BG_4holifQqv.KoQlKnsmRyDLonI0uPCCjCaaV4kyxu14kEKU.zs2cjAqKAI_Sx8Mzs5x9Un80FEFAC6JtQwxyJp_0cRyCyNKr2.KRnykUGtp49Z1nCra3inDaA7W0T4N9bcRNGmzvQar49dmKhshQHxjOcwGr43A6BntIBibi5sgbHmqUqew9Zk5BGi5mhYCzIhDZ1ywRqdWQ8ja5ngigigJq1nd6Lwl9q38KWlBhEt1YbY4RS28hAUS4DSOz6NPttR8- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:16:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 17:17:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace026d209231073733319 The future of science. Brings new meaning to cell phone usage. Meet the cell scope: http://fletchlab.berkeley.edu/research_cellscope.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 17:18:10 2009 Received: (qmail 16203 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 15:18:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 15:18:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9ACE181CF for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193A9E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FA834AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7BC34AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ralf_loi@it.ibm.com whitelisted) Received: from mtagate1.de.ibm.com (mtagate1.de.ibm.com [195.212.17.161]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.81]) by mtagate1.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n98FHnJE021531 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:17:49 GMT Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.216]) by d12nrmr1707.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n98FHnc22871376 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:17:49 +0200 Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id n98FHmst027798 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:17:48 +0200 Received: from d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.166.154]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id n98FHmvf027795 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:17:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimed: 57102 To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 Message-ID: From: Ralf Loi Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:17:47 +0200 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 08/10/2009 17.17.50, Serialize by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 08/10/2009 17.17.50, Serialize complete at 08/10/2009 17.17.50, S/MIME Sign failed at 08/10/2009 17.17.50: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D12ML401/12/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 08/10/2009 17:17:48, Serialize complete at 08/10/2009 17:17:48 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 17:18:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace02b2122931258626592 << I should have been a doctor. AG >> Do you write THAT bad? ;-) Ralf -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 17:48:10 2009 Received: (qmail 3329 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 15:48:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 15:48:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780E2E182A5 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE30E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4901434AC02B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815C34AC028 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so15502fgg.8 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.169.25 with SMTP id r25mr1277437fge.17.1255016881373; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm936996fgb.26.2009.10.08.08.47.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7B6A1734-0357-4CA0-9198-BF293FB7632F@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpIFKNQo+wNEcqTR0mIG1MOAi7BWgACie8g In-Reply-To: <7B6A1734-0357-4CA0-9198-BF293FB7632F@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 17:48:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace09ba174331342116753 I prefer a smallish to medium nib (not fine) which my burgundy 51 has. I have yet to find a pen which for me is as balanced and demands neat writing. I have another 51 which is more modern with a cheaper nib and there is a marked difference in the feel IMO. Also a nice stainless steel Sheaffer (US) with a short "gold" clip and a broader 14k nib. I cannot comment on the market as I am not a collector. My experience is with Peter Twydle at http://www.penmuseum.co.uk/ whereas a friend has recently used Derrick Purser http://www.auchenfrancoholidays.co.uk/pen.html Both were trained by Arthur Twydle (dec'd) who seems to have been the pen guru over here. Interestingly Purser is located on a caravan camping site near Dumfries and his clients combine their pen repairs with holidays at his site. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Whitmire [mailto:bwhitmire@roadrunner.com] Sent: 08 October 2009 13:41 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones Yeah, the Vacs were long gone by '53. Last one was late '40s, as I recall. The aeros were much better, and far less messy. Not a lot of difference between US and UK versions, except the UK got a wider variety of nibs to choose from. There was a time when I was trading in fountain pens that a UK Parker 51 with a broad stub nib would bring large bucks. I don't know how the market is now. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 6:14 PM, David Bell wrote: > I would guess UK manf. Aerometric colour Burgundy. With stainless > steel innards and gold shrouded nib. Was my mothers who received it as > a gift in 1953. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 17:57:53 2009 Received: (qmail 26625 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 15:57:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 15:57:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F86E18147 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD69EE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE92F34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CFA34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008155746535.REFZ18886@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:57:46 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:57:45 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 17:57:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace0c01112819752976205 You have to ask? Here? --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Fetishes are what makes life the joy it can be... > > > > Whew. So my OM fetish is acceptable? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 17:59:07 2009 Received: (qmail 29219 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 15:59:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 15:59:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88066E182A0 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FACBE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EC919F8F8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300A19F917 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so865480ewy.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:59:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.131 with SMTP id c3mr491206wef.197.1255017540351; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:59:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:59:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a97866aba4ff371d Message-ID: <9f07ac840910080859w4c11e723i579e80944f4494df@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 17:59:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace0c4b286736789618724 It's mandatory! > > Whew. So my OM fetish is acceptable? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 18:00:31 2009 Received: (qmail 22337 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 16:00:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 16:00:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2844DE181BA for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3B8E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4A019F925 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC819F920 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008160004893.COZH16663@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:00:04 +0000 Message-Id: <0788D3E3-76EC-4404-A337-58A93091244C@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:00:04 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7B6A1734-0357-4CA0-9198-BF293FB7632F@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 18:00:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace0c9f300081744846740 Now _there's_ a life! --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:47 AM, David Bell wrote: > Interestingly Purser is located on a caravan camping site near > Dumfries and > his clients combine their pen repairs with holidays at his site. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 18:07:27 2009 Received: (qmail 29116 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 16:07:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 16:07:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF9FE182B2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD66E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785E919F94B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCFE19F949 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so917452bwz.37 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:07:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.26 with SMTP id s26mr91592hbg.179.1255018037160; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:07:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:07:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d1602abab696585d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 18:07:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace0e3f184341357919056 > > Do you write THAT bad? ;-) > Yes. A very strange thing started developing about five years ago. I've always been a little dyslexic when reading, but now I'm dyslexic when writing. Once in a while it affects my typing, but my writing is pretty wild as I'm constantly putting some characters ahead of others or combining characters. It's a disaster zone. It's gotten so bad that when signing prints I've just truncated it to a scribbled "Ken". I'm sure it's some neurological thing caused by my eating paint chips as a child or something like that. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 18:08:57 2009 Received: (qmail 983 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 16:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 16:08:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59FAE182A8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059F6E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F7219F944 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:08:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E189D19F939 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so5244011bwz.23 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:08:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.144 with SMTP id k16mr92536hbe.103.1255018128502; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:08:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:08:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fb07477f2b5cc80a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 18:08:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace0e99151951073733319 > > You have to ask? Here? > OK, I feel better now. Living large in the Zuiko Owners Support Group. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:15:08 2009 Received: (qmail 14638 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:15:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EF9E18148 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891EE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC61C34AC02A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D48734AC029 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF66F314098 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C560314091 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACE1E24.6000600@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:15:16 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091007-0, 10/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:15:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace1e1c207651234514069 > > ...written with my Parker 51... Nice pen that I use occasionally but a little too modern. :-) I like my Scheaffer white dots. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:21:54 2009 Received: (qmail 15185 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:21:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55257E18256 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89113E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6097034AC029 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B903D34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:21:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9176AC965B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:52:40 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:21:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15372483D0BA4E6D9B11BE17040D9157@user4fec106f50> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <15372483D0BA4E6D9B11BE17040D9157@user4fec106f50> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:21:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace1fb2225153900897491 That's grand, David. Thanks. I need a bit of fettling on the clip of my Parker 75 ballpoint pen as well. Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 14:39, David Bell wrote: > Chris, > > I can recommend Peter Twydle at Hornsea to your colleague as he did > a superb > overhaul on one of my Parker 51's > > His website is here > > http://www.penmuseum.co.uk/index.html > > Dave -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:24:49 2009 Received: (qmail 15165 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:24:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:24:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9F7E182A8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B4FE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9893610002 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED9034AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B56C976A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:55:35 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:24:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace206135791073733319 I'll mention that idea, but it smacks of being organised and life is pretty hectic when running a flying programme for undergraduates. There aren't many of us instructors and there are loads of them, so we are always on the move. I don't use my Parker 75 enough: I suppose I am afraid to lose it if I carry it around too much ... Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 13:54, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Suggest to your colleague that he fill his 51 to capacity before > flying with it. That should alleviate the leak--either that, or > _really_ make a mess. I never fly with a fountain pen unless it's > empty, but I'm told if they're full, they don't tend to leak. > > The Parker 75 is an excellent pen, and the sterling version is one of > the most beautiful pens ever produced. Writes pretty well, too. I had > a few of them pass through my hands, but at the time the market for > them was just too good to hold onto one. Same with the 51. I sold all > of mine before I realized I'd done it. Still have a box of 51 parts, > though. I might be able to cobble together a "Frankenpen." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:41:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10004 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:41:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F04E18200 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F02E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4947E19FD6A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1098719FD6F for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038FD314099 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1ED314087 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:42:08 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091007-0, 10/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:41:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace2467320961413256596 FWIW: B&H is owned by members of an orthodox sect that is anti-Zionist. Makes shopping there easy. Don't know about Adorama. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:48:37 2009 Received: (qmail 12551 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:48:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842D1E1829D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555A1E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3231E34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:48:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8EC34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5D7C979A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:19:22 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:48:29 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:48:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace25f5135945368819438 Ken I have noticed, over the past couple of years, that occasionally your spelling goes a little. Most of the time it's good, like the text on your website, but every now and then you make a dyslexic sort of mistake. I had thought that it was because you had not had time to spill-chuck ... :-) My youngest son is dyslexic, but he is slowly training himself out of spilling mostooks. Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 17:07, Ken Norton wrote: > A very strange thing started developing about five years ago. I've > always > been a little dyslexic when reading, but now I'm dyslexic when > writing. > Once in a while it affects my typing, but my writing is pretty wild > as I'm > constantly putting some characters ahead of others or combining > characters. > It's a disaster zone. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 19:49:57 2009 Received: (qmail 25504 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 17:49:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 17:49:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB471E181CC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21400E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C8434AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D8034AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:49:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73DC9791 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:20:07 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:49:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <0788D3E3-76EC-4404-A337-58A93091244C@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7B6A1734-0357-4CA0-9198-BF293FB7632F@roadrunner.com> <0788D3E3-76EC-4404-A337-58A93091244C@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 19:49:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace264571351234514069 Yes, but I fancy the job hiring out older cars ... Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 17:00, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Now _there's_ a life! > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:47 AM, David Bell wrote: > >> Interestingly Purser is located on a caravan camping site near >> Dumfries and >> his clients combine their pen repairs with holidays at his site. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 20:16:34 2009 Received: (qmail 26686 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 18:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 18:16:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD78E181B2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5C0E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164FA3610001 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603CD34AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:52622 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MvxXJ-0000bU-JY (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:16:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:16:20 +0200 Message-Id: <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 20:16:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace2c82274291258626592 I would prefer it if they were not Orthodox but Zionist. Your tastes may vary. Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > FWIW: B&H is owned by members of an orthodox sect that is > anti-Zionist. Makes shopping there easy. Don't know about Adorama. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 20:18:16 2009 Received: (qmail 24534 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 18:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 18:18:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7B7E1829E for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DC6E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1234AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F6134AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MvxZ4-0002Ag-8b for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:18:10 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MvxZ3-0003o5-OL for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:18:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACE2CE1.7080503@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:18:09 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 20:18:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace2ce8199501220213263 Chris Barker wrote: > > > My youngest son is dyslexic, but he is slowly training himself out of > spilling mostooks. > > Chris > Has he tried colour overlays? D. (who thinks he's still doing adult ed...) -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 20:20:37 2009 Received: (qmail 10869 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 18:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 18:20:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92291E181B9 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D2E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B5F34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513E634AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MvxbM-0002Z6-Jt for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:20:32 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MvxbL-0008Q4-TN for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:20:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACE2D6F.2030401@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:20:31 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 20:20:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace2d75117551612113968 Mike Lazzari wrote: > FWIW: B&H is owned by members of an orthodox sect that is > anti-Zionist. Makes shopping there easy. Don't know about Adorama. > > Mike Phewww! I'm in the throes of the BDS campaign as we speak..! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 20:41:12 2009 Received: (qmail 10252 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 18:41:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 18:41:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03191E1824E for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2ADE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C7D19FDEC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3061919FDF7 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so5952014fxm.37 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:41:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.157 with SMTP id k29mr109857hbe.67.1255027263670; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:41:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:41:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38ef246a482d3aef Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 20:41:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace3248310949730998309 > > I have noticed, over the past couple of years, that occasionally your > spelling goes a little. Most of the time it's good, like the text on > your website, but every now and then you make a dyslexic sort of > mistake. I had thought that it was because you had not had time to > spill-chuck ... :-) > Well, it goes beyond just the spelling. I'm quite frequently scrambling entire sentences or missing words. I'm told it's most likely an ADHD thing which may be rearing its ugly head again. The brain and the hands are on two different timing schedules and words don't arrive to the destination in the proper order. Frankly, I'd rather let my pictures do the talking. :) A (Schnozz) G -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 20:55:47 2009 Received: (qmail 22117 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 18:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 18:55:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0A7E181BA for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AE5E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E863610001 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82A734AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 84874 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2009 18:55:39 -0000 Message-ID: <439197.84843.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: br9ZQG4VM1nL54uN8V4dSwBJXcr314R8QPuwxGWTe8sLQQ4v9E4XA3pt.X2BSPEJHIyHaNzhGR3f7TorSVf9YNbiWY2Oa7_jn6awBN8jKEJJsJ16RbEzf8wUAl9Tpo4yV0R6fFEWAxHKYnaTEunn_0i3VKxf3oqR0u3OGVlXo3MxaD0iNZ1t6com3mMNMC0earqqPyZXjRkzN7ECcFu_uyTnLhb6kpXpaYdaEcG1qFqNt9_Iv3D88.aCBBc9QWItBxZqyTnQI.u7TAceOkxwgToIuogZoOdGoGRtiK_VrWdJHnxg475Ir34vKfkVyho6HCOU8Ch.xFDiDXosu4h6WQ-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:55:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 20:55:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace35b3259555683411216 So I am not the only one with that problem? 8-)) I often skip words in emai= ls. Hands type faster than brain thinks. = > = > Well, it goes beyond just the spelling.=A0 I'm quite > frequently scrambling > entire sentences or missing words.=A0 I'm told it's most > likely an ADHD thing > which may be rearing its ugly head again. The brain and the > hands are on two > different timing schedules and words don't arrive to the > destination in the > proper order. > = > Frankly, I'd rather let my pictures do the talking. > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 21:05:49 2009 Received: (qmail 13425 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 19:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 19:05:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7439AE181CC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF237E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FA634AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F9C34AC029 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1144020bwz.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:05:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.212 with SMTP id s20mr1342613bkf.101.1255028740322; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:05:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 21:05:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace380d200211560218263 I wasn't going to bring this to the List (way off topic) but as often happens the List comes to my questions. Besides it is far too quiet around here today. My 7th grade daughter brought home yesterday her last History test (they don't call it History any more; something like Social Studies or GVC or something other). They have been studying Middle Eastern history so there were a number of questions concerning Judaism. On her test there were two True/False questions that were marked incorrect: T or F All Jews are Hebrews. T or F All Hebrews are Jews. Without going into answers yet, I thought my daughters answers were both correct. I called a Jewish friend and he agreed with her answers as well. The following morning I asked another Jewish colleague on staff and he thought one was correct and one was wrong (he also quipped that if you ask two Jews a question you are likely to get three different answers). I asked a third person and he believes there is no right answer. Any thoughts? Charlie On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I would prefer it if they were not Orthodox but Zionist. Your tastes > may vary. > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > > > FWIW: B&H is owned by members of an orthodox sect that is > > anti-Zionist. Makes shopping there easy. Don't know about Adorama. > > > > Mike > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 21:51:13 2009 Received: (qmail 13965 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 19:51:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 19:51:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C240E182B0 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCC9E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F51734AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361D634AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D452C97BA for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:21:57 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <4ACE2CE1.7080503@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:51:03 +0100 Message-Id: <57E06BAB-2DE5-4C8C-8BD7-190132EE9F98@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACE2CE1.7080503@blueyonder.co.uk> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 21:51:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace42b180951234514069 Yes, thanks, Donald. They worked pretty well. He is 25 and his reading and writing are pretty good. Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 19:18, Donald wrote: > Chris Barker wrote: >> >> >> My youngest son is dyslexic, but he is slowly training himself out of >> spilling mostooks. >> >> Chris >> > > Has he tried colour overlays? > > D. (who thinks he's still doing adult ed...) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 21:51:53 2009 Received: (qmail 23966 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 19:51:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 19:51:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FA7E18200 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD70E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7F419FF24 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA6F19FF26 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B2DC975F for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:22:41 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:51:47 +0100 Message-Id: <4532AB35-8675-417E-86DD-C7123E083FF2@threeshoes.net> References: To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 21:51:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace42d9192301234514069 There writes an artist ... Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 19:41, Ken Norton wrote: > > Well, it goes beyond just the spelling. I'm quite frequently > scrambling > entire sentences or missing words. I'm told it's most likely an > ADHD thing > which may be rearing its ugly head again. The brain and the hands > are on two > different timing schedules and words don't arrive to the destination > in the > proper order. > > Frankly, I'd rather let my pictures do the talking. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 21:55:18 2009 Received: (qmail 2537 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 19:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 19:55:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1323CE18236 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED890E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C971C19FF2C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D7D19FF21 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:52831 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Mvz4s-0005Nv-2s (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:55:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Nathan Wajsman In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:55:06 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 21:55:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace43a645852013633067 Either can be true or false, so there are four possible answers, all correct :-) Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > I wasn't going to bring this to the List (way off topic) but as often > happens the List comes to my questions. Besides it is far too quiet > around > here today. > My 7th grade daughter brought home yesterday her last History test > (they > don't call it History any more; something like Social Studies or GVC > or > something other). They have been studying Middle Eastern history so > there > were a number of questions concerning Judaism. On her test there > were two > True/False questions that were marked incorrect: > > T or F All Jews are Hebrews. > > T or F All Hebrews are Jews. > > Without going into answers yet, I thought my daughters answers were > both > correct. I called a Jewish friend and he agreed with her answers as > well. > The following morning I asked another Jewish colleague on staff and he > thought one was correct and one was wrong (he also quipped that if > you ask > two Jews a question you are likely to get three different answers). > I asked > a third person and he believes there is no right answer. > Any thoughts? > > Charlie > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Wajsman > wrote: > >> I would prefer it if they were not Orthodox but Zionist. Your tastes >> may vary. >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: >> >>> FWIW: B&H is owned by members of an orthodox sect that is >>> anti-Zionist. Makes shopping there easy. Don't know about Adorama. >>> >>> Mike >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 22:16:53 2009 Received: (qmail 11278 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 20:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 20:16:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359ADE181D8 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4BCE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7FC34AC026 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A0234AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008201648488.FNHR14562@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:16:48 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4ACE1E24.6000600@interisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:16:47 -0400 References: <4ACE1E24.6000600@interisland.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 22:16:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace48b577619752976205 Ah, the Oversized Balance from the 1930s, now _there_ was a pen. As long as it was a lever-filler. Those piston fillers, though, are the devil to fix. I never mastered that art. That, and the Snorkel. Sent 'em to a guy in Massachusetts. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: >> >> ...written with my Parker 51... > Nice pen that I use occasionally but a little too modern. :-) I > like my Scheaffer white dots. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 22:19:16 2009 Received: (qmail 23936 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 20:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 20:19:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7256E18247 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0ECE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDACD19FF6C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7767519FF67 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008201910745.TTM18886@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:19:10 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:19:10 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 22:19:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace4944168732013633067 Correct. The sterling Parker 75 should reside in its own desk, preferably one with a view through the window into the garden, or, if on the coast, crashing breakers. Nothing on the desk but a lamp, blotter, and perhaps a bottle or two of one's favorite ink(s). --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > I don't use my Parker 75 enough: I suppose I am afraid to lose it if I > carry it around too much ... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 22:21:38 2009 Received: (qmail 18889 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 20:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 20:21:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006DCE181CC for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DE5E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F93C19FF77 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E2319FF74 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091008202132457.MHFS16663@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:21:32 +0000 Message-Id: <522CBCA2-81B1-4235-BD9F-5286C54DA18F@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:21:32 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 22:21:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace49d2117912439112457 I've found that if one spills one's mostooks, one must clean up the mess _immediately_ or the carpet will be damaged beyond redemption. And then Herself will go non-linear, and hell won't be far behind. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > My youngest son is dyslexic, but he is slowly training himself out of > spilling mostooks. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Oct 8 22:43:49 2009 Received: (qmail 31542 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 20:43:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 20:43:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDA5E182A5 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD72E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C4134AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E11634AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:43:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Mvzps-0003Ss-Q6 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:43:40 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Mvzpr-00041C-L6 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:43:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACE4EFC.8080304@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:43:40 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Oct 8 22:43:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace4f05302872439112457 Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Either can be true or false, so there are four possible answers, all > correct :-) > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > LOL! Now THAT'S funny! ;-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 00:01:18 2009 Received: (qmail 7712 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 22:01:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 22:01:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768EEE1822D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EB2E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EC91A00A1 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:01:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465141A009C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n98M10xh020738 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:01:00 +1100 Message-Id: <200910082201.n98M10xh020738@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:01:00 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:01:00 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 00:01:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace612e198361234514069 Geez, can't we get back to discussing guns and SUVs ? ...Wayne > Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Correct. The sterling Parker 75 should reside in its own desk, > preferably one with a view through the window into the garden, or, if > on the coast, crashing breakers. Nothing on the desk but a lamp, > blotter, and perhaps a bottle or two of one's favorite ink(s). > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > > I don't use my Parker 75 enough: I suppose I am afraid to lose it if I > > carry it around too much ... > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 00:16:57 2009 Received: (qmail 31294 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 22:16:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 22:16:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B7FE181AE for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DFEE240CB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE63534AC027 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E6234AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32900 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2009 22:16:50 -0000 Message-ID: <419303.30975.qm@web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jIbs0IAVM1mWpf0gCtqkqFaT0y1RDXF_up_sCznIalGjSMOJ2YwG6yQRqHYCvnlVu9RH.DS2EIeuA6DSsfD_c2MA54.7SBtc5DdzS1UkcNVtjEgTQyOPXRYl80Wm3aG4a4TwTARDjhd2vvydZCFhx7YR0aI1iYVJZWuNw8Qjv_uHOQLtDMRTpRrrDdyHU9I0PE6kJFvI3jGHyx0.pEmw4T8pno.5gpDxD4YCNa.8v3KcR2X.2.SP1hHv.aJNVJdivJPrspSDt66kHUKeDB929ebuXtdu9.aLNaHTogPyWo.ZfrBc.0FVuOYTWJJmrvxrRssAfhasPV3oywF_X_2rh9XY0U.y1DwmbMjvX.OnhXVJ2mEwWZMhukerQj9XLV.mJg-- Received: from [86.151.156.171] by web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:16:49 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:16:49 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4ACDD723.2030906@blueyonder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 00:16:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace64d9151452013633067 Duplicitous delusional LIAR..No Donald I do not mean you but ex president Tony Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Thu, 8/10/09, Donald wrote: > From: Donald > Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 05/10/2009: Brussels autumn weather > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Thursday, 8 October, 2009, 1:12 PM > Jez Cunningham wrote: > > He's pushing to be the next Pope isn't he? > No offence meant to anyone but TBliar, but I hope he's the > next JFK... > D. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 01:07:58 2009 Received: (qmail 19242 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 23:07:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 23:07:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA62E18236 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B4E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E9234AC025 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC1B34AC024 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n98N7jhL019395 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:07:46 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c2c.67e92226 (45328) for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC054-5bb94ace70b8384; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:07:41 -0400 Received: from webmail-d074 (webmail-d074.sim.aol.com [205.188.167.108]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA028-5bb94ace70b8384; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:07:36 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:07:36 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.108) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:07:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC168342BC4209-5754-1462F@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] Irving Penn dies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 01:07:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ace70cd125912439112457 http://tinyurl.com/yghfc4f Much to be remembered for. I believe he was Jewish or is that Hebrew? I don't think the latter noun/adj is used very often--sounds archaic. I think I agree with Nathan on this one, but can't be sure. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 04:39:01 2009 Received: (qmail 461 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 02:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 02:39:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54886E18200 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F165E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F0A1CD488 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:38:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DB61CD481 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2009 22:38:51 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:38:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4ACE69F20200004E00029F98@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:38:42 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Irving Penn dies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 04:39:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acea245129621357919056 Irving Penn showed beauty in ways that I can't even begin to imagine let alone try to copy. Clay >>> 10/08/09 7:08 PM >>> http://tinyurl.com/yghfc4f Much to be remembered for. I believe he was Jewish or is that Hebrew? I don't think the latter noun/adj is used very often--sounds archaic. I think I agree with Nathan on this one, but can't be sure. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 05:56:51 2009 Received: (qmail 23552 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 03:56:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 03:56:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC09E1829D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12361E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B3E1CD488 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4605F1CD481 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so3456117ywh.14 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:56:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.72.25 with SMTP id u25mr3758204yba.273.1255060601240; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:56:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910082056j2f4e2e0br394b927f30e8a10b@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 05:56:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceb483134771258626592 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Jim Couch wrote: > Speed & handling - > 'super control panel" > - it works fine, but... I sure would like to turn the damn thing off! > Most of the time when I change a setting it is with the camera to my eye > and I use the viewfinder information to make the change, it is very > irritating to have the SCP come on, especially when setting exposure > compensation! So far my workaround is to just keep the screen turned > toward the camera body, but it makes it hard to chimp when needed. It > would nice to be able to turn off, and set the timeout on the SCP just > like the Review screen - perhaps in a firmware upgrade this will be added? I guess that could be done by allowing the SCP to be triggered only with the OK button and not by any of the other function buttons. This doesn't seem like a huge thing for Olympus to do. I fear the almost universal praise for the SCP might end up trumping a firmware update of that kind though. Complaints about the menu system (bothers some people but not me, I'm used to it) seems to be in inverse relationship to praise for the SCP, and the SCP garners a lot of forgiveness for the menu system, actually. > > So far my impression is that the autofocus in low light is not as fast > or 'hunt'-free as my D200 was (comparing with similar lenses as best I > can) In good light the autofocus seems to be fine. I still have a lot of > tuning/learning to do with the autofocus so do not take this at face > value. I did expect better low light autofocus performance with the 25mm > f/2.8 pancake. Whether in bright or low light, Olympus cameras love some sort of line to grab onto. > Lenses - > Currently I have the two kit lenses, the 9-18, and the 25 f/2.8. I have > to admit to having a real bias against lenses with plastic mounts, but > the build quality on the two kit lenses is actually quite good. it > remains to be seen how these hold up long term, but for their weight and > cost they are quite nice lenses, no looseness, and amazingly sharp! the > 9-18 and 25 have metal lens mounts and better build quality as one would > expect given the price. Overall I am very impressed and pleased with the > Olympus lenses, but then again I always did like Zuikos! One thing that > did surprise me is hos flimsy all the hoods seem to be, it is probably > really a non-issue, but in comparison to the Tokina ATX hoods they are a > bit disappointing. I have mixed feelings about the hoods. The hoods I have for my Zuikos would not seem to match the E lenses very well. The E-systems hoods, while chinzy, are light and flexible and rather quick to deal with. I put them on and take them off a lot and my only worry is about wearing out the "snaps" on the bayonet mount. I'm still very impressed with the kit lenses. > Image Quality - > To soon to really tell, but so far no disappointments here. I usually > shoot RAW and will need to find a new RAW processor (as I formerly used > Nikon's Capture NX) so there will be an increased learning curve here. I assume you followed the recent thread about RAW converters? Whatever you think of Master 2, at least compare RAW conversion by it against the LHC (Latest Hot Converter) to make sure it gets the colors "right." If you judge simply by workflow or aesthetic judgments about software development, you won't select Master, certainly, or probably Studio2, but that might not get you everything Olympus designed into the camera. > Metering seems fine, but different from the Nik*ns. The ESP meter seems > to be giving me a bit different results than Nik*n's matrix metering. > the problem with any matrix metering is that while it works great most > of the time, when it doesn't it is hard to tell what it is doing and > override accordingly. It will take some learning here to get a handle on > what Olympus is doing. Spot and average metering seem to be very > consistent and I suspect I will be using those a lot until i get a > handle on the Olympus ESP. I now have experience with four Olympus DSLRs. Other than ESP, I use spot occasionally and the Highlight spot whenever it is a good choice to the situation (snow and clouds involved to a significant degree). ESP works for me similarly to CWA on OM-4 or 2S. It actually seems to work a little better IMO. For spot metering to work better for me, I feel as though I need multi-spot. ESP with some negative exposure comp seems to retain highlights better for me without as much reshooting. ESP also works well for me in conjunction with the AEL button. I try to grab onto the seen in a way that I know ESP will work well, press the AEL button to hold the reading, and then recompose, focus, and shoot. I set the camera to retain the AEL for multiple shots (i.e., memo), which is not the default. I tend to set the Contrast to -1 normally and exp comp to -.3 for general shooting. In review mode, I am usually not too far from the Highlight screen. But there are lots of ways to skin the cat. > The viewfinder is nothing fantastic, but better than I had been led to > believe. The finder is smaller and appears to be not as bright as my > D200 was, but only marginally so. It does work well with glasses and i > find it easy to see the whole finder as well as the information at the > bottom. The finder information is great and has pretty much all the info > I need. I miss the grid lines of the D200, but it is not a big deal. I > am actually more satisfied with the finder than I expected to be. I went for the E-3 about a year ago because I wanted the best VF I could get. I like it a lot, but I also enjoy the VF on the other cameras just fine. This seems to vary from one person to another. > I have not used the internal flash a lot, and probably won't. Never like > the D200 flash either. Personally i wish they would leave off these > internal flashes. If I need/want a flash I will use a proper one. I will > probably pick up one of the Olympus flashes and a cord for when I need > flash. I also ordered one of the Wein safsync units so i can use the > camera with my studio lights. Olympus took a huge amount of criticism for leaving the flash off the E-1. They probably displease fewer people by including an onboard flash. > More to follow as I get more time with the rig. I will be out climbing > this weekend, which will be my first real chance to use the camera under > the circumstances I really purchased it for, after that I suspect I will > have more comments I am sure. Seems like you're enjoying it. Look forward to hearing more. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 07:27:23 2009 Received: (qmail 9203 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 05:27:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 05:27:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63959E182A5 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF02BE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40F88002 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2B48003 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9464618C0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:53:45 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:27:12 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 07:27:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acec9bb251684877110844 Agreed! I received a couple of decent inks last Christmas: Caran d'Ache "Storm" and Yard-o-Led "Claret". I am still only halfway through Storm. I miss the Parker Penman inks, of which I have only a bit of "Mocha" left. Apparently it tended to block pens and Parker withdrew it several years ago. I don't have a view of the breakers here, but I know a lovely place on the northwest coast of Scotland that would fit that bill nicely ... Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 21:19, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Correct. The sterling Parker 75 should reside in its own desk, > preferably one with a view through the window into the garden, or, if > on the coast, crashing breakers. Nothing on the desk but a lamp, > blotter, and perhaps a bottle or two of one's favorite ink(s). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 07:28:31 2009 Received: (qmail 11332 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 05:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 05:28:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C3DE181B2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442A7E240E3 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DF81CD481 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D621CD485 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3194618C1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:17 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <522CBCA2-81B1-4235-BD9F-5286C54DA18F@roadrunner.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:27:45 +0100 Message-Id: References: <522CBCA2-81B1-4235-BD9F-5286C54DA18F@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 07:28:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acec9ff126462517112723 :-) "Non-linear" indeed! Chris On 8 Oct 2009, at 21:21, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I've found that if one spills one's mostooks, one must clean up the > mess _immediately_ or the carpet will be damaged beyond redemption. > And then Herself will go non-linear, and hell won't be far behind. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 07:35:32 2009 Received: (qmail 31172 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 05:35:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 05:35:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBB2E181BA for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C05E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B781CD485 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:35:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD881CD481 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2E84618C1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:01:59 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:35:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8CC168342BC4209-5754-1462F@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CC168342BC4209-5754-1462F@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Irving Penn dies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 07:35:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acecba4214221220213263 That was very interesting, thanks, Mike. I think that there was an article on Penn in the latest photography series on television here a few months ago. Chris On 9 Oct 2009, at 00:07, usher99@aol.com wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/yghfc4f > > Much to be remembered for. > > I believe he was Jewish or is that Hebrew? I don't think the latter > noun/adj is used very often--sounds archaic. > I think I agree with Nathan on this one, but can't be sure. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 08:06:22 2009 Received: (qmail 965 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 06:06:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 06:06:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AADE18255 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA30BE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDB01CD488 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E32F1CD481 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28570 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 06:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 06:05:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:06:09 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 08:06:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aced2de47991234514069 Technically fetishes only involve behaviours which cause sexual titillation...is someone suggesting that you get get a bit unnecessary over a pen or two? I went and fondled my Mont Blanc but no, nothing...no stirring in the nether regions, much as I like it (especially with that Bordeaux colour ink that looks a bit like dried blood). Is there any particular routine or discipline involved in generating the excitement required or should I go back to pigeon racing? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/10/2009, at 11:54 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Fetishes are what makes life the joy it can be -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 08:07:24 2009 Received: (qmail 818 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 06:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 06:07:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096FCE181D6 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C75E240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AEA3808004 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68B33808001 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (pool-98-119-92-33.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [98.119.92.33]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id IJV88938 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:07:13 -0700 Message-Id: <133CF961-E336-4250-A680-DAAE3587DC0D@ucr.edu> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] ink was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 08:07:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aced31c278421357919056 Have you tried Aurora's blue? it's gorgeous. On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Agreed! I received a couple of decent inks last Christmas: Caran > d'Ache "Storm" and Yard-o-Led "Claret". I am still only halfway > through Storm. I miss the Parker Penman inks, of which I have only a > bit of "Mocha" left. Apparently it tended to block pens and Parker > withdrew it several years ago. > > I don't have a view of the breakers here, but I know a lovely place on > the northwest coast of Scotland that would fit that bill nicely ... > > Chris > > On 8 Oct 2009, at 21:19, Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> Correct. The sterling Parker 75 should reside in its own desk, >> preferably one with a view through the window into the garden, or, if >> on the coast, crashing breakers. Nothing on the desk but a lamp, >> blotter, and perhaps a bottle or two of one's favorite ink(s). > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 08:14:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12477 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 06:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 06:14:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F91E18247 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33CFE240E2 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE103808002 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7283808001 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30088 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 06:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 06:13:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:14:20 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 08:14:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aced4c6190435683411216 Actually there are eight possible answers - four for each one. True, Flase, Neither True nor False, Both True and False. You can blame Blaise Pascal for that one. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 6:55 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Either can be true or false, so there are four possible answers, all > correct :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:14:40 2009 Received: (qmail 30457 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:14:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F8EE181CC for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672DEE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430171CD485 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1A71CD481 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5872 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 07:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:13:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACDE3DC.9080805@verizon.net> References: <4ACD355E.22924.34CC6D1@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4ACCBCCA.3000008@verizon.net> <4ACDE3DC.9080805@verizon.net> Message-Id: <6DD664D1-BCEF-46CC-A0FF-ACA002802923@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:14:29 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:14:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acee2e0134755683411216 That's been the case for a long time - years I think. Frustrating if you're trying to establish the value of a rare item What's more frustrating is the lack, on US ebay, of a 'Used first' option in a category. We have it in ebay Aus and it's useful for excluding all the new Chinese junk in a perusal of lighting equipment, for instance. Pulls all the genuine person to person auctions to the top. I'm worried that we'll lose it here too. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 12:06 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > That seems to be the only option for looking at old closed > auctions. The > results only go back a few weeks. The preference tab seems to have no > way to expand that search criteria. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:26:48 2009 Received: (qmail 17593 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:26:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1714AE1829D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC73E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456683808004 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:26:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CCA3808002 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 68504700008D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:26:39 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009072640427.68504700008D@msfrf2103.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:27:07 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:26:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acee5b8269896107113666 Introduction sort of. I've been lurking for some time, butting in on occasions and would like to introduce myself briefly before putting a question to the list. I've had an OM2 in the past, with a cool 28, a mighty 50 1.4 and a sharp 135, all long gone when the shutter electronics developed some stubborness not to produce the higher speeds, gone ... Even though I still keep a battered Leica R4 and glass on the shelf, I currently shoot mainly, if not exclusively digital, using a Pana L1 to which I have added Oly zooms, namely 70-300, 50-200 and 7-14. I know and appreciate my wife's Oly E400 and E510 (standard double lens kit + macro 35) even though their menu systems fall short of being satisfactory to me. I have been considering a G1 (yes), an E3, and lately an E30 in order to get larger files and of course a better VF than the L1's. But before proceeding I have a question. I'd like to know if any E3 successor has been rumoured, scheduled or announced; I find the E3 VF is what I want, yet, the E30 offers a better pixel count. Any insight on a (soon to be) available body that would reconcile their best(s), or even better? Thanks in anticipation. Philippe (Metz-EU) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:32:33 2009 Received: (qmail 26050 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:32:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F1BE1822B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1719EE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D980519DC1E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913FE19DC0B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-127-85-128.aubnin.fios.verizon.net ([71.127.85.128]:57515 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mw9xg-0004r8-Vs for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:32:26 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:32:25 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] OT ebay searches Thread-Index: AcpIsqVp5ECJ77SlEd6QYQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <6DD664D1-BCEF-46CC-A0FF-ACA002802923@people.net.au> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:32:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acee711244821357919056 I'd like it if they could exclude all foreign sellers. I don't want to have stuff sent from Russia or China. 75% of what I've bought on ebay had to be returned because it was garbage and that's near impossible if it came from across the world. You look for something on the USA ebay and half the sellers are in Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong. Frustrating. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-424-0897 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 10/9/09 3:14 AM, "Andrew Fildes" wrote: > That's been the case for a long time - years I think. Frustrating if > you're trying to establish the value of a rare item > What's more frustrating is the lack, on US ebay, of a 'Used first' > option in a category. We have it in ebay Aus and it's useful for > excluding all the new Chinese junk in a perusal of lighting > equipment, for instance. Pulls all the genuine person to person > auctions to the top. I'm worried that we'll lose it here too. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/10/2009, at 12:06 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > >> That seems to be the only option for looking at old closed >> auctions. The >> results only go back a few weeks. The preference tab seems to have no >> way to expand that search criteria. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:37:50 2009 Received: (qmail 21319 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:37:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:37:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF1DE18246 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35732E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3EB3808002 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077853808001 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (smtp06.online.nl [194.134.42.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0048A960D3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:40 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:40 +0200 Message-ID: <7A798199D92C4C3AA2899C05E8A8A49D@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:37:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acee84e197029730998309 Chris, That is just an easy setting in your preferences part of the screen (under refined search). From the Us you can choose between US Only, Nort Americ, Worldwide or Choose more... I use this feature quite much although the other way around, because I like to include US and Asian sellers. Cheers, Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com] > Verzonden: vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 9:32 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches > > > I'd like it if they could exclude all foreign sellers. I > don't want to have stuff sent from Russia or China. 75% of > what I've bought on ebay had to be returned because it was > garbage and that's near impossible if it came from across the > world. You look for something on the USA ebay and half the > sellers are in Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong. Frustrating. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-424-0897 > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 10/9/09 3:14 AM, "Andrew Fildes" wrote: > That's been the case for a long time - years I think. Frustrating if > you're trying to establish the value of a rare item What's more > frustrating is the lack, on US ebay, of a 'Used first' option in a > category. We have it in ebay Aus and it's useful for excluding all the > new Chinese junk in a perusal of lighting equipment, for instance. > Pulls all the genuine person to person auctions to the top. I'm > worried that we'll lose it here too. Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/10/2009, at 12:06 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > >> That seems to be the only option for looking at old closed auctions. >> The results only go back a few weeks. The preference tab seems to >> have no way to expand that search criteria. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:42:48 2009 Received: (qmail 21983 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:42:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621D0E181CC for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77919E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E521519DC87 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384B219DC7D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so459954ewy.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.134 with SMTP id u6mr711262wee.213.1255074162027; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> References: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:41 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f45a7dcf9fa040d5 Message-ID: <9f07ac840910090042q66eea01cm4de984e3769b616@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:42:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acee978237801136683642 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: > I've had an OM2 in the past, with a cool 28, a mighty 50 1.4 and a sharp> 135, all long gone when the shutter electronics developed some > stubborness not to produce the higher speeds, gone ... ... > Any insight on a (soon to be) available body that would reconcile their best(s), or even better? Yes - I have an OM-2n body I could sell you... br Jez in .be land -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:46:15 2009 Received: (qmail 32508 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:46:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:46:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D504E18279 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1759EE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F317619DCBA for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1FA19DCB2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9A3E7000092 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:46:08 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009074608891.D9A3E7000092@msfrf2103.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACEEA61.8000106@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:46:41 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> <9f07ac840910090042q66eea01cm4de984e3769b616@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910090042q66eea01cm4de984e3769b616@mail.gmail.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:46:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceea4778536107113666 Jez Cunningham wrote: >On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: > > > >>I've had an OM2 in the past, with a cool 28, a mighty 50 1.4 and a sharp> >> >> >135, all long gone when the shutter electronics developed some > > >>stubborness not to produce the higher speeds, gone ... >> >> >... > > >>Any insight on a (soon to be) available body that would reconcile >> >> >their best(s), or even better? > >Yes - I have an OM-2n body I could sell you... > > Thanks I passed mine on a long time ago ;-) . ph >br >Jez in .be land > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:47:20 2009 Received: (qmail 4009 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:47:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA207E181CF for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086E5E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED82419DCB2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920D19DCBE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (smtp07.online.nl [194.134.42.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611709802F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:11 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:10 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:47:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceea88107961076813867 Philippe, Welcome to the list. I am a very happy campoer with my E-3 and am not aware of any real announcements of a newer E-x body. Rumours will be here forever and eventualy rumours of a new body will come true. This time I am not the one to predict when however, although I did know of the introduction of the E-400 and E-500 about 3 months ahead. As for the pixel count, I would not stare too much at the difference between 10 and 12 Mpix. In fact I still like the images of the E-1 as much as I like my E-3's. The upgrade to the E-3 was a great one, but I dot not upgrade because of pixelcount. For me IS, operation speed, larger viewfinder were more important. Ergonomically I still think the E-1 was superior to any other E-system camera. Everything could be found ans set "blindfolded" withe The E-3 I am still struggling somewaht with the buttons having two functions combined with the two wheels. I would advise you to see if you can use both camera's for a few hours and see which one fits your needs and taste best. A newer body will always be coming in the future, whatever you buy now and even if you would buy an E-4/5 at the moment it came out. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Philippe Amard [mailto:philippe.amard@sfr.fr] > Verzonden: vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 9:27 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] Olympus question from new member > > > Introduction sort of. > I've been lurking for some time, butting in on occasions and > would like > to introduce myself briefly before putting a question to the list. > > I've had an OM2 in the past, with a cool 28, a mighty 50 1.4 > and a sharp > 135, all long gone when the shutter electronics developed some > stubborness not to produce the higher speeds, gone ... > Even though I still keep a battered Leica R4 and glass on the > shelf, I > currently shoot mainly, if not exclusively digital, using a > Pana L1 to > which I have added Oly zooms, namely 70-300, 50-200 and 7-14. > I know and appreciate my wife's Oly E400 and E510 (standard > double lens > kit + macro 35) even though their menu systems fall short of being > satisfactory to me. > I have been considering a G1 (yes), an E3, and lately an E30 > in order to > get larger files and of course a better VF than the L1's. > But before proceeding I have a question. > > I'd like to know if any E3 successor has been rumoured, scheduled or > announced; I find the E3 VF is what I want, yet, the E30 > offers a better > pixel count. > Any insight on a (soon to be) available body that would > reconcile their > best(s), or even better? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Philippe > (Metz-EU) > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release > Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:48:19 2009 Received: (qmail 18771 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:48:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAFCE1822E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E9DE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67113808001 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5F34AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so464680ewy.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.206 with SMTP id y56mr734120wee.207.1255074450416; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e44ea84fc886f54a Message-ID: <9f07ac840910090047i6bf7fe4fi6d0a4834985fc485@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:48:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceeac3232311234514069 So, pray, what exactly is it about pigeon racing that stirs your nether regions? Jez On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Technically fetishes only involve behaviours which cause sexual > titillation...is someone suggesting that you get get a bit > unnecessary over a pen or two? > I went and fondled my Mont Blanc but no, nothing...no stirring in the > nether regions, much as I like it (especially with that Bordeaux > colour ink that looks a bit like dried blood). Is there any > particular routine or discipline involved in generating the > excitement required or should I go back to pigeon racing? > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:57:03 2009 Received: (qmail 21946 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:57:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FCEE1824C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457D6E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174FE34AC024 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:56:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E558A34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.791) for ; 09 Oct 2009 18:56:52 +1000 Message-ID: <100.a8a20a00c2ecce4a.002@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:56:50 +1100 (EDT) Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.05 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.05.45.1425) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] fetishes, was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:57:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceeccf304851560218263 Hi Andrew, > Technically fetishes only involve behaviours which cause sexual > titillation...is someone suggesting that you get get a bit > unnecessary over a pen or two? > I went and fondled my Mont Blanc but no, nothing...no stirring in the > nether regions, much as I like it (especially with that Bordeaux > colour ink that looks a bit like dried blood). Is there any > particular routine or discipline involved in generating the > excitement required or should I go back to pigeon racing? I like fondling my OM's, especially the 4Ti but it doesnt give me any nether region stirrings either, not even when I have something nice in front of it. Thats why I go out without it ;-) Cheers Ian Manners Illiterate? Write for FREE HELP! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 09:58:43 2009 Received: (qmail 24261 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 07:58:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 07:58:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA17E181AE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26CCE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30D219DCF6 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:58:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C3C19DD18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:58:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5AD437000087 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:58:36 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009075836372.5AD437000087@msfrf2103.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:59:11 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 09:58:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4aceed33235429730998309 Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >Philippe, > >Welcome to the list. > > > Thank you William >I am a very happy campoer with my E-3 and am not aware of any real >announcements of a newer E-x body. [...] > >Ergonomically I still think the >E-1 was superior to any other E-system camera. Everything could be found >ans set "blindfolded" withe The E-3 I am still struggling somewaht with >the buttons having two functions combined with the two wheels. > > Ergonomics is indeed one of my concerns - the L1 is near perfect in that respect, I feel I have been spoilt so far. >I would advise you to see if you can use both camera's for a few hours >and see which one fits your needs and taste best. > These are not so common fowl round here and I don't know anyone who might offer me this opportunity ... >A newer body will >always be coming in the future, whatever you buy now and even if you >would buy an E-4/5 at the moment it came out. > > Wisely put William. Yet as the prices on E3s are plummetting which could be a sign of imminent release. I was just wondering if I should wait, should the next generation be on the shelves round Christmas ... Thank you for your honest answers and helping contribution. Philippe -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 10:58:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20102 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 08:58:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 08:58:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C75E18247 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249DEE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE23D34AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:58:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69934AC024 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:58:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19803 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 08:58:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 08:58:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840910090047i6bf7fe4fi6d0a4834985fc485@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com> <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> <9f07ac840910090047i6bf7fe4fi6d0a4834985fc485@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:58:38 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 10:58:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acefb4b107731560218263 The way that they coo at you - and, oh yes, the feathers, the feathers... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 6:47 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > So, pray, what exactly is it about pigeon racing that stirs your > nether > regions? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 11:01:08 2009 Received: (qmail 24793 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 09:01:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 09:01:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFABAE18228 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452BDE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231F134AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:01:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6683E34AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:01:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19937 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 09:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 09:00:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> Message-Id: <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:00:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 11:01:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acefbd4280741879814018 It was a very, very long time between the E1 and E3 with lots of moaning and wailing and hope. The drop in price may be because people are opting for the E30 instead (after all, it has a few more of those magic megapixel thingies). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 6:59 PM, Philippe Amard wrote: > Wisely put William. Yet as the prices on E3s are plummetting which > could > be a sign of imminent release. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 11:53:55 2009 Received: (qmail 5181 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 09:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 09:53:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF36CE181A3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52964E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CA33808004 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FF13808002 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1872082fga.8 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.17.4 with SMTP id 4mr2145419fgq.13.1255082026724; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm3023560fge.22.2009.10.09.02.53.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com><0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com><7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net><1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com><8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au><9f07ac840910090047i6bf7fe4fi6d0a4834985fc485@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: <25296A4EB4BC462D81171F62EBAE447B@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcpIvrfpx7oygfoPR9e3CwdJ7i0q3AABs78g Subject: Re: [OM] [OT]Pigeons was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 11:53:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf08338871946193717 Granddaughter was here yesterday and I dug out an old Sesame Street video (pre DVD media) for her to watch. Never really scrutinised Bert and Ernie's song "Doing the ooh! Ooh! Pigeon" Is there a pigeon sub-culture lurking somewhere?? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: 09 October 2009 09:59 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones The way that they coo at you - and, oh yes, the feathers, the feathers... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 6:47 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > So, pray, what exactly is it about pigeon racing that stirs your > nether regions? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 12:24:42 2009 Received: (qmail 1248 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 10:24:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 10:24:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07774E1824E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A7DE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B6319E1DA for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B87719E1D2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr (smtp22.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.10]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA77C70000A0; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:24:33 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009102433829.CA77C70000A0@msfrf2202.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:25:43 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste leica reflex , Leica Users Group , Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 12:24:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf0f6a315073900897491 More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. Congrats to you all my American friends. Bien cordialement de Metz Philippe -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 13:11:21 2009 Received: (qmail 13067 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 11:11:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 11:11:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABC8E181BA for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC246E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A99F19E347 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:11:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE1019E345 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:11:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MwDNP-00055P-86 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:11:11 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.6]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MwDNO-0004KP-T8 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:11:10 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACF1A4B.2010106@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:11:07 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> In-Reply-To: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 13:11:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf1a5980691258626592 This is a joke, right? D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 13:16:54 2009 Received: (qmail 20387 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 11:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 11:16:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E5E181CD for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800FEE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F46B34AC02B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:16:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EC934AC02C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.79] (79.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.79]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2253DA838 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:16:43 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:16:46 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACFD26E.7878.37CE7F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091008-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Fetishes, was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 13:16:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf1ba6294741357919056 Andrew wrote > Technically fetishes only involve behaviours which cause sexual > titillation...is someone suggesting that you get get a bit > unnecessary over a pen or two? > I went and fondled my Mont Blanc but no, nothing...no stirring in the > nether regions, much as I like it (especially with that Bordeaux colour > ink that looks a bit like dried blood). Is there any particular routine > or discipline involved in generating the excitement required or should I > go back to pigeon racing? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au The latest fetish-type behaviour to hit U-tube inmolves a very frustrated kakapo - a rare ground parrot in New Zealand - rare at only 124 left alive; total population. I haven't watched these videos myself as trying to watch them on dial-up is more trouble than it's worth; but there's quite a bit in the news about this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEaUcG-yiY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jedTYS5k0s http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/2944959/Frisky-kakapo-a-YouTube-hit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQfNZWEwN0I Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 13:21:52 2009 Received: (qmail 13865 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 11:21:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 11:21:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9059BE18236 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5FE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AD134AC02E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:21:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E634AC02C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:21:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.79] (79.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.79]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B73A3DA810 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:21:44 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:21:47 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ACFD39B.8324.3C632A@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091008-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT ebay searches X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 13:21:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf1cd0318492013633067 A lot depends on where you stand. Chris Crawford wrote > > I'd like it if they could exclude all foreign sellers. I don't want to > have stuff sent from Russia or China. 75% of what I've bought on ebay had > to be returned because it was garbage and that's near impossible if it > came from across the world. You look for something on the USA ebay and > half the sellers are in Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong. > Frustrating. Yeah, I feel something like that sometimes about foreign sellers too, especially when they won't sell outside the USA. :-) I think it's a global marketplace we have now. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 14:21:29 2009 Received: (qmail 14682 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 12:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 12:21:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591FDE182A3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109AAE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB94919E5AF for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DCE19E5B5 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MwETK-0005fu-4E for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:21:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACF2ABD.8030800@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:21:17 +0100 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <4ACF1A4B.2010106@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ACF1A4B.2010106@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 14:21:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf2ac938142517112723 It's a bloody disgrace, should have given it to President Blair! Hope the Nobel committee has a better grasp of physics/chemistry, etc... :-) Donald wrote: > This is a joke, right? > > D. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 14:29:30 2009 Received: (qmail 13976 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 12:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 12:29:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DD8E182A1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6638E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF4619E5E3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1812119E5D9 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com (mail-yx0-f204.google.com [209.85.210.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so1885483yxe.22 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:29:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.2.2 with SMTP id 2mr4730834ybb.16.1255091364370; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:29:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:29:24 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910090529g16870f95y6126cc795bbafcb5@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 14:29:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf2caa12892013633067 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: > More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. > Congrats to you all my American friends. > > Bien cordialement de Metz > Philippe That's extremely generous of you, Philippe. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:03:29 2009 Received: (qmail 23129 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:03:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:03:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65125E18277 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64945E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575CB34AC02D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA134AC02B for ; 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Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE68732EC4 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0205.4a81ece1.ad0be29 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:13:41 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzzcFGugMLAIAAAAB,54be2586267aa17ce2a7bde862d97ce9 X-Vipre-Scanned: 0024D56800153D0024D6B5-TDI Message-ID: <4ACF3703.4050008@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:13:39 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AB7B0F2.7030500@spokeandsprocket.com> <4AC1A070.4080103@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACD6549.1020709@spokeandsprocket.com> <9e908c1f0910082056j2f4e2e0br394b927f30e8a10b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910082056j2f4e2e0br394b927f30e8a10b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-620 is here - more impressions - warning: a lot of em - long post! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:13:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf370c49301357919056 Joel- > I guess that could be done by allowing the SCP to be triggered only > with the OK button and not by any of the other function buttons. This > doesn't seem like a huge thing for Olympus to do. I fear the almost > universal praise for the SCP might end up trumping a firmware update > of that kind though. Complaints about the menu system (bothers some > people but not me, I'm used to it) seems to be in inverse relationship > to praise for the SCP, and the SCP garners a lot of forgiveness for > the menu system, actually. > > Actually, I think to do would be to use the 'info' button, which actually already toggles the SCP on and off. It would seem to me an easy thing to do with a firmware upgrade. I guess I don't really get all the excitement, Nik*n has been doing the same thing since the D40 (which has the same issue BTW) Nik*n did change their panel so be user settable on later bodies. > Whether in bright or low light, Olympus cameras love some sort of line > to grab onto. > > I will keep that in mind. I also am beginning to suspect that having focus set to S-AF+MF or C-AF+MF _MAY_ give poorer AF performance than just setting it to S-AF or C-AF. I will have to play with this more. > I have mixed feelings about the hoods. The hoods I have for my Zuikos > would not seem to match the E lenses very well. The E-systems hoods, > while chinzy, are light and flexible and rather quick to deal with. I > put them on and take them off a lot and my only worry is about wearing > out the "snaps" on the bayonet mount. I'm still very impressed with > the kit lenses. > > I worry about durability as well, especially on the kit lenses which will see a lot of time in the hills. On the other hand, they are light, and it looks like replacement hoods are not very expensive. > I assume you followed the recent thread about RAW converters? > Whatever you think of Master 2, at least compare RAW conversion by it > against the LHC (Latest Hot Converter) to make sure it gets the colors > "right." If you judge simply by workflow or aesthetic judgments about > software development, you won't select Master, certainly, or probably > Studio2, but that might not get you everything Olympus designed into > the camera. > > I did follow it very closely. A lot of good information that I am still digesting. I am sure I will be trying a number of processing possibilities. > I now have experience with four Olympus DSLRs. Other than ESP, I use > spot occasionally and the Highlight spot whenever it is a good choice > to the situation (snow and clouds involved to a significant degree). > ESP works for me similarly to CWA on OM-4 or 2S. It actually seems to > work a little better IMO. For spot metering to work better for me, I > feel as though I need multi-spot. ESP with some negative exposure > comp seems to retain highlights better for me without as much > reshooting. ESP also works well for me in conjunction with the AEL > button. I try to grab onto the seen in a way that I know ESP will > work well, press the AEL button to hold the reading, and then > recompose, focus, and shoot. I set the camera to retain the AEL for > multiple shots (i.e., memo), which is not the default. I tend to set > the Contrast to -1 normally and exp comp to -.3 for general shooting. > In review mode, I am usually not too far from the Highlight screen. > But there are lots of ways to skin the cat. > > Yeah, it will take a bit of time to get used to the metering for me, but I don't see any real issues here, just a matter of getting used to how the tool works. > I went for the E-3 about a year ago because I wanted the best VF I > could get. I like it a lot, but I also enjoy the VF on the other > cameras just fine. This seems to vary from one person to another. > I am sure that there is an E-3 (or it's replacement) in my future as a second body for when the extra bulk and weight are not an issue. I would certainly like a better VF, but don't want the weight and the E-620 is actually acceptable and quite usable, keeping in mind that I am not manually focusing any lenses. > Olympus took a huge amount of criticism for leaving the flash off the > E-1. They probably displease fewer people by including an onboard > flash. > > I agree, I can imagine the firestorm if the flash was left off. I have just never been a fan of built in flashes on SLRs, all of them seem to be pretty much underpowered and of very limited use. > Seems like you're enjoying it. Look forward to hearing more. > Enjoying the heck out of it! Glad you find my comments/observations of interest. Thanks for your comments and help. Jim Couch -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:21:43 2009 Received: (qmail 28676 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:21:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:21:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B64E18228 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0510E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3F19E769 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5624019E760 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0063963B95 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0205.4a81ece1.ad0f321 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:21:36 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzzjg4zVPUgIAAAAB,676a01effd9cdb08dc0654c1a34ac475 X-Vipre-Scanned: 002C17C400153D002C1911-TDI Message-ID: <4ACF38DE.9090203@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:21:34 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> In-Reply-To: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member E3 successor? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:21:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf38e721136789618724 Rumors abound, including a 'faked' photo or two, but nothing firm. There have also been rumors of an Olympus announcement due at the end of the month, but weather it is micro 4/3, a new E, lenses or what, no one knows. Jim Couch Philippe Amard wrote: > I'd like to know if any E3 successor has been rumoured, scheduled or > announced; I find the E3 VF is what I want, yet, the E30 offers a better > pixel count. > Any insight on a (soon to be) available body that would reconcile their > best(s), or even better? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Philippe > (Metz-EU) > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:24:19 2009 Received: (qmail 30697 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:24:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:24:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A06E1829D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43518E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2C419E783 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AE919E77C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0110.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0110.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D790663A7D8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d15b36b2) id dm0206.4abd27cb.2803f37 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:24:13 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMTtrlKzzl9lQGG2gIAAAAB,171d793569fdda08c58e4d07896679c1 X-Vipre-Scanned: 002E7CAE00153D002E7DFB-TDI Message-ID: <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:24:12 -0700 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> In-Reply-To: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:24:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf3983258072439112457 Thank you Philippe. It was quite a surprise to wake up to this morning! (Although I suspect quite a bit more for President Obama!) Jim Couch Philippe Amard wrote: > More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. > Congrats to you all my American friends. > > Bien cordialement de Metz > Philippe > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:45:57 2009 Received: (qmail 29409 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:45:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4E8E181DE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835FDE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A30C19E81C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF1E19E815 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:45:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so6514413fxm.37 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:45:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.22 with SMTP id i22mr2264097bka.13.1255095948636; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910090645w64d161d6p9b777cfbed1ccf23@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:45:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf3e95231761006886880 Philippe, On behalf of all America I accept your congratulation. Although if nothing else I've learned from the OM List, we Americans are somewhat deficient in irony detectors (among other things I'm sure). The main difference between the Nobel Peace Prize and all other Nobel Prizes, the time gap between the award and the accomplishment is usually in the 10-20 year range. Not so for the peace prize. President Obama may have started us on the path to a more peaceful world but we won't really know for a few years. Same for Jimmy Carter; he was awarded the Prize as well but in the end nothing really came of his efforts. Charlie On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: > More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. > Congrats to you all my American friends. > > Bien cordialement de Metz > Philippe > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:48:52 2009 Received: (qmail 8457 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:48:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C18E1819D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6BE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB55019E830 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0699519E82C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1641505bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.11.6 with SMTP id r6mr2242630bkr.29.1255096122682; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910090648o72b4003bxdcb9fde89b7b5b79@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:48:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf3f4464951234514069 Thanks. I knew you guys would clarify things for me. Charlie On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Actually there are eight possible answers - four for each one. > True, Flase, Neither True nor False, Both True and False. > You can blame Blaise Pascal for that one. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/10/2009, at 6:55 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > > > Either can be true or false, so there are four possible answers, all > > correct :-) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 15:54:28 2009 Received: (qmail 26076 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 13:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 13:54:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3162FE1822B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E455E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE1F19E853 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A3119E824 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so6521317fxm.37 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.100 with SMTP id s36mr132923hbs.109.1255096459381; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:54:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7c5807cad954c65b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 15:54:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf4094105851342116753 He couldn't get the Olympics, but he got a Nobel for being popular. I guess we all need rock star heros to admire. It's only fair, I guess. Pres Bush got Ignobels. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:02:53 2009 Received: (qmail 11465 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:02:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16D4E18200 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BE4E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D434AC02A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8AE34AC02F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so6584294fxm.37 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:02:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.86.38 with SMTP id o38mr1144448mul.114.1255100562180; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:02:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0221769a45faa26 Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:02:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf509d134025368819438 Hello Philippe, for rumours look at 43rumors.com, you'll find several. I would wait at least until the end of October, the 31th being reported as a date Olympus will show some news. Could be only the e-p2, could be more. I expect it to be slightly more, because it would sort of define their Christmas sale 'position'. I'm looking for another 43 body myself and sort of ended up wanting the e-30. It has roughly the same weight and dimensions as an e-1, and I preferred the grip over the e-620. Only drawback is that apparantly Olympus is capable of producing better image quality (in the e-p1), so I might wait a short while. I'm not in a hurry, still have an e-1. I would not buy an e-3 because of high-iso banding and the new 'in-the-camera' AF finetuning possibilities, which I expect to be convenient. And of course because it is too heavy to suit my needs. On a side note, one of my e-1 died recently because it submerged (a bit clumpsy in a canoe ;-). I think I should have get the battery out immediatly, but I didn't (the kids were first priority ;-). However, my 14-54mm survived and still functions as far as I can see. Good luck with your choice, regards, Frank. 2009/10/9 Andrew Fildes > It was a very, very long time between the E1 and E3 with lots of > moaning and wailing and hope. The drop in price may be because people > are opting for the E30 instead (after all, it has a few more of those > magic megapixel thingies). > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/10/2009, at 6:59 PM, Philippe Amard wrote: > > > Wisely put William. Yet as the prices on E3s are plummetting which > > could > > be a sign of imminent release. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:11:27 2009 Received: (qmail 5549 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:11:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:11:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C263E1822E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F5FE240E2 for ; 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Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:11:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:11:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf529f43016107113666 Pass me the popcorn, puleez... =A0 Boris = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:19:22 2009 Received: (qmail 2026 invoked by uid 0); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:19:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf547a155713900897491 > > On a side note, one of my e-1 died recently because it submerged (a bit > clumpsy in a canoe ;-). I think I should have get the battery out > immediatly, but I didn't (the kids were first priority ;-). However, my > 14-54mm survived and still functions as far as I can see. > Well, the E-1 is NOT a Nikonos... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:21:31 2009 Received: (qmail 14047 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:21:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:21:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8468AE18245 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697E7E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557F834AC02C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD96F34AC02B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C65670000A4 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:21:24 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009152124509.7C65670000A4@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACF557D.3040700@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:23:41 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:21:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf54fb315241136683642 Frank Wijsmuller wrote: >for rumours look at 43rumors.com, [ ...] > > Thank you Frank. Wish you good luck in your quest too. Ph -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:23:12 2009 Received: (qmail 22449 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:23:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0645DE182A9 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8BBE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23A034AC02A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B64234AC02F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B0E1F700008A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:23:06 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009152306724.B0E1F700008A@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACF55E4.2080408@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:25:24 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> <4ACF38DE.9090203@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACF38DE.9090203@spokeandsprocket.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member E3 successor? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:23:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf556091501234514069 Jim Couch wrote: > rumors of an Olympus announcement due at the end of the month > Thanks Jim, I think I can wait till then then. Ph -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:25:23 2009 Received: (qmail 887 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:25:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D1DE18277 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284FAE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3F834AC02C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62934AC02A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:25:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (philippe.amard@sfr.fr whitelisted) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (141.75.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.75.141]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 244A370000AB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:25:15 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20091009152515148.244A370000AB@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ACF5665.4080207@sfr.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:27:33 +0200 From: Philippe Amard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:25:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf55e3115921006886880 Andrew Fildes wrote: >long time between the E1 and E3 [...] > Was there an E330 in between? > The drop in price may be because people are opting for the E30 instead > > Hence my qualms and query. Thanks for the input. Ph -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:33:45 2009 Received: (qmail 12752 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:33:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B88E181AC for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C66E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E596619EA71 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D52019EA7F for ; 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Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 11:54:56 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:54:55 -0400 Message-Id: <4ACF24850200004E0002A02E@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:54:45 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:55:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf5cda80691258626592 Philippe Thank you for the kind words. I just can't figure how or why Obama got the Peace prize. I think it discounts the Nobel Committee and the prize itself. Clay >>> Philippe Amard 10/09/09 6:24 AM >>> More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. Congrats to you all my American friends. Bien cordialement de Metz Philippe -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 17:58:20 2009 Received: (qmail 970 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 15:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 15:58:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FF9E1829D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B720EE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CCA19EB23 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE67419EB0F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.superhosting.ca (mail.superhosting.ca [69.90.83.197]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16534 invoked by uid 399); 9 Oct 2009 15:54:41 -0000 Received: from bas1-toronto05-1176310250.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ?192.168.51.152?) (ownvolition01@ownvolition.com@70.29.17.234) by mail.superhosting.ca with ESMTPAM; 9 Oct 2009 15:54:41 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 70.29.17.234 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:58:09 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize Thread-Index: AcpI+UvYinq0dLTsEd6jFwAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <4ACF24850200004E0002A02E@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 17:58:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf5d9c122231234514069 On 10/9/09 11:54 AM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Philippe > Thank you for the kind words. I just can't figure how or why Obama got the > Peace prize. I think it discounts the Nobel Committee and the prize itself. > Clay As Ken hinted, it's actually the omnipotent IOC's way of awarding a Second Prize :-) . Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:04:55 2009 Received: (qmail 6582 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:04:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:04:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9434AE18200 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA132E240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E103C34AC02D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D33034AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 12:04:49 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:04:49 -0400 Message-Id: <4ACF26DC0200004E0002A033@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:04:44 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:04:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf5f27172687801554290 What's next? Superbowl MVP?? Clay >>> Michael Collins 10/09/09 11:58 AM >>> On 10/9/09 11:54 AM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Philippe > Thank you for the kind words. I just can't figure how or why Obama got the > Peace prize. I think it discounts the Nobel Committee and the prize itself. > Clay As Ken hinted, it's actually the omnipotent IOC's way of awarding a Second Prize :-) . Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:07:50 2009 Received: (qmail 30883 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:07:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:07:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A89E182B8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28984E240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D47434AC02B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2ED34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1756444bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.18 with SMTP id q18mr132346hbe.50.1255104463961; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:07:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <946227.46530.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <946227.46530.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:07:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3bf7a5846d8080d9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Printer Update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:07:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf5fd6235555683411216 > > There was a reason seven years ago to switch from Epson to Canon, I did not > follow the logic and ended up with this. > It's funny that I won't touch a Canon camera but I have no problem with Canon printers. My 9000 did develop that little issue with friction causing it to think it's jammed, but other than that it (and the 900 I bought off the bay) have been incredibly reliable. We use it primarily for general printing and we do usually no less than 50 pages a week. When the girls were distance-learning we did hundreds of pages a week. I was literally refilling tanks every few days. That's why I bought the continous-feed inking system. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:14:46 2009 Received: (qmail 21654 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:14:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF6DE181B2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B771BE240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF934AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD3334AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1761946bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:14:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.207 with SMTP id u15mr138966hbu.95.1255104877368; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:14:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF26DC0200004E0002A033@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> References: <4ACF26DC0200004E0002A033@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:14:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d854797c87a34e65 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:14:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf6176299541357919056 > > What's next? Superbowl MVP?? > Baseball commissioner. Just maybe then the Cubs would win. Oops, he's a south-sider. Hey, it's the least we could do, though. After all, he single-handedly saved the world from economic collapse and should be bowed down to in acknowledgment of his superiority over us all. Now, if he does the same for global warming, we should be 20 degrees cooler by the next election. But at least he hasn't screwed everything up yet. Fortunately there are limits on how much damage one man can do in our country--after all we did survive the last eight years... I pick no sides, though. I voted for Nader. Sorry, this has nothing to do with Olympus... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:30:48 2009 Received: (qmail 22625 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:30:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:30:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9BEE1831B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74887E240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D18A34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89C234AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D15BC973F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:01:22 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <133CF961-E336-4250-A680-DAAE3587DC0D@ucr.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:30:27 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <133CF961-E336-4250-A680-DAAE3587DC0D@ucr.edu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] ink was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:30:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf6538153841744846740 No, but I shall now ... :-) Thanks Chris On 9 Oct 2009, at 07:07, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > Have you tried Aurora's blue? it's gorgeous. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:37:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30298 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:37:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F9BE181AE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CD4E240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F47D19EC3C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D608319EC39 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1979611fga.8 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:37:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.18 with SMTP id n18mr141163hbn.40.1255106258956; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <133CF961-E336-4250-A680-DAAE3587DC0D@ucr.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:37:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a70e2961d07345e5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ink was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:37:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf66db114211234514069 > > No, but I shall now ... :-) > > > Have you tried Aurora's blue? it's gorgeous. > That is one of my weaknesses. I love a blue-green ink with a tinge of slate. Years ago, I had an expensive pen with that color and it was wonderful. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:42:32 2009 Received: (qmail 13250 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:42:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:42:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E92E18244 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515BBE240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F80534AC02A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE2A34AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3500DC9730 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:13:22 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910090645w64d161d6p9b777cfbed1ccf23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:42:26 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <14883a8b0910090645w64d161d6p9b777cfbed1ccf23@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:42:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf67f8131941879814018 Charlie I detected no irony in Philippe's message. And I mean none when I join him. Mr Obama strikes me as an impressive man and the Nobel committee must think so as well ... Chris On 9 Oct 2009, at 14:45, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Philippe, > On behalf of all America I accept your congratulation. Although if > nothing > else I've learned from the OM List, we Americans are somewhat > deficient in > irony detectors (among other things I'm sure). > The main difference between the Nobel Peace Prize and all other Nobel > Prizes, the time gap between the award and the accomplishment is > usually in > the 10-20 year range. Not so for the peace prize. President Obama > may have > started us on the path to a more peaceful world but we won't really > know for > a few years. Same for Jimmy Carter; he was awarded the Prize as well > but in > the end nothing really came of his efforts. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 18:58:06 2009 Received: (qmail 3010 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 16:58:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 16:58:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2ABE18228 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E8E240CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B416A19ECD3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F9919ECD1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:57:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1794318bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.11.6 with SMTP id r6mr2403893bkr.29.1255107478284; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <14883a8b0910090645w64d161d6p9b777cfbed1ccf23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:57:58 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0910090957j8a0777bk58aa4629abb42f0d@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 18:58:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf6b9e168551946193717 I'm sure you are quite right Chris, Philippe did not intend to be ironic or sarcastic. In fact he e-mailed me off List to tell me so. I take his statement at full face value. I just think it caught many by surprise that he was given this award so early in his career. His approach to foreign policy is of course a sea change from the previous administration and I think that is what the Nobel committee is recognizing. Whether it amounts to significant acheivements...we can only wait and see. Charlie On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Charlie > > I detected no irony in Philippe's message. And I mean none when I > join him. > > Mr Obama strikes me as an impressive man and the Nobel committee must > think so as well ... > > Chris > > On 9 Oct 2009, at 14:45, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > > > Philippe, > > On behalf of all America I accept your congratulation. Although if > > nothing > > else I've learned from the OM List, we Americans are somewhat > > deficient in > > irony detectors (among other things I'm sure). > > The main difference between the Nobel Peace Prize and all other Nobel > > Prizes, the time gap between the award and the accomplishment is > > usually in > > the 10-20 year range. Not so for the peace prize. President Obama > > may have > > started us on the path to a more peaceful world but we won't really > > know for > > a few years. Same for Jimmy Carter; he was awarded the Prize as well > > but in > > the end nothing really came of his efforts. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 19:09:56 2009 Received: (qmail 18726 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 17:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 17:09:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF7BE181CB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732ACE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631CD19ED1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121AC19ED1B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D12FC9775 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:40:43 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Chris Barker In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0910090957j8a0777bk58aa4629abb42f0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:09:47 +0100 Message-Id: <11FDDFDD-601A-448E-BB03-7114303CCAF8@threeshoes.net> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <14883a8b0910090645w64d161d6p9b777cfbed1ccf23@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0910090957j8a0777bk58aa4629abb42f0d@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 19:09:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf6e64272021357919056 I agree with you Charlie, that we can only wait and see -- and pray a bit perhaps :-) Chris On 9 Oct 2009, at 17:57, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > I'm sure you are quite right Chris, Philippe did not intend to be > ironic > or sarcastic. In fact he e-mailed me off List to tell me so. I take > his > statement at full face value. I just think it caught many by > surprise that > he was given this award so early in his career. His approach to > foreign > policy is of course a sea change from the previous administration > and I > think that is what the Nobel committee is recognizing. Whether it > amounts to > significant acheivements...we can only wait and see. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 20:37:01 2009 Received: (qmail 22334 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 18:37:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 18:37:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E49E182A8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F71DE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891AE19F0B1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4738119F08F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sproul3-55-68.ucr.edu (sproul3-55-68.ucr.edu [138.23.55.68]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id JSQ91604 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:55 -0700 Message-Id: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: [OM] what kind of photographer are you X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 20:37:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf82cd32611234514069 http://shutterfinger.typepad.com/shutterfinger/2009/10/what-type-of-photographer-are-you.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 20:55:05 2009 Received: (qmail 3763 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 18:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 18:55:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7338E181B2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4A5E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE223610004 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:54:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D4F34AC02A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1875695bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.136 with SMTP id m8mr157695hbg.131.1255114494855; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:54:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> References: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:54:54 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c0d5249737a4dc1f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] what kind of photographer are you X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 20:55:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf8709126273900897491 Ouch. Depending on the day and hour, I can be one or all of them. For pure shooting pleasure in a simplistic, yet refined way, the OM-3Ti with 35/2.8 is my go to camera. But when hanging out with you guys at some Zuikofest, I show up with no less than three camera bags. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 21:16:30 2009 Received: (qmail 7981 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 19:16:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 19:16:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC97E181CD for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4D0E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828B319F2D0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D4519F1ED for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com (mail-yx0-f204.google.com [209.85.210.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so2193403yxe.22 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:16:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr3532317anz.136.1255115780517; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:16:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] adjusting the 24 shift mechanism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 21:16:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf8c0e167001234514069 Hello everybody, My 24 shift is showing some vertical creep lately, not exactly what you want during exposure :). I have adjusted my 35 shift myself, but don't know if the mechanism is the same. I can see a lot more screws in the construction of the 24... Anybody on the list with experience in handling this. Epoxy is no option :) Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 21:52:45 2009 Received: (qmail 818 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 19:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 19:52:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC22E1819F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A11E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B44D19F4AE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87BD19F4AC for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32017 invoked by uid 502); 9 Oct 2009 19:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.190.235) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Oct 2009 19:52:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACF947D.2030601@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:52:29 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 21:52:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf948d97871073733319 Jim Couch wrote: > Thank you Philippe. It was quite a surprise to wake up to this morning! > (Although I suspect quite a bit more for President Obama!) > Ah, several posts into this thread before anyone gave me a clue as to what it is about. No newspapers, broadcast news or web news sites for 28 days. Why do I feel like I've missed very little, and even less of any lasting value? I tried reading the paper with my first meal of the day, as has been my wont, but just couldn't get going. It all looked so stale and boring. On the other hand, the DVR performed admirably while we were away, so we have too many shows from the new season to catch up on. Somehow, it didn't catch the National Parks series on PBS, but we watched two while on the road - the only TV we saw. It seemed fitting to watch the one about Acadia the night before we headed there. The ones we missed will, of course, be repeated endlessly. I also seem to have made a mistake in programming, so we missed the first few episodes of Fringe. :-( Moose, potshots welcome -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:01:35 2009 Received: (qmail 30952 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:01:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:01:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E828E181A8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A084AE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F9634AC02D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750B34AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1918594bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:01:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.136 with SMTP id m8mr163033hbg.131.1255118484985; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF947D.2030601@gmail.com> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> <4ACF397C.9030303@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACF947D.2030601@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:01:24 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 03009393247f6cb3 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:01:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf969f185052013633067 > > Moose, potshots welcome > Nah, I'm too kind to take advantage of you in your weakened condition. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:02:45 2009 Received: (qmail 19928 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEE0E181D8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB31E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB39C34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D8F34AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15216 invoked by uid 502); 9 Oct 2009 20:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.190.235) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Oct 2009 20:02:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:02:05 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:02:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf96e5176721006886880 Bob Whitmire wrote: > Okay, so I was noodling around the internet earlier, perusing Point of > Sale software in anticipation of opening a small gallery next year. > Don't want anything fancy. Even the not-fancy system we have at the > craft cooperative is too fancy, if you catch my drift. > > So I wandered onto a site with free POS software. Methinks this is one acronym one should always spell out. I personally try to avoid POS software. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:06:26 2009 Received: (qmail 774 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:06:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F0E18255 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5514FE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281EF19F4FF for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDA619F4D7 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:06:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.superhosting.ca (mail.superhosting.ca [69.90.83.197]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13380 invoked by uid 399); 9 Oct 2009 20:02:42 -0000 Received: from bas1-toronto05-1176310250.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ?192.168.51.152?) (ownvolition01@ownvolition.com@70.29.17.234) by mail.superhosting.ca with ESMTPAM; 9 Oct 2009 20:02:42 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 70.29.17.234 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:06:11 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet Thread-Index: AcpJG/I1ML/GNrUPEd6jFwAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:06:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf97c236496789618724 On 10/9/09 4:02 PM, Moose wrote: > Methinks this is one acronym one should always spell out. It was unambiguous - he wanted it to run on Windows. Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:17:37 2009 Received: (qmail 2075 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:17:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:17:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB9AE18200 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5C9E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D84B34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3213234AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.150]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9379 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 20:17:31 -0000 Message-ID: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ib4UpCUVM1lLspalel_Q.8JKEx0bbv_42BN4uRv6in6zaChUag6z.0Q9aMJI4YWRyEHdN.vZOAgZFr9JzcFTYbP2Xww0Qi2DDAS6xRabJxVya9FK6OoobRjv.HN6oGII64JWAhOCh6bN5kj_JXv2lYSuVvCR0ryeVcJufLvjpt8uNfQjn_g5bCKQB_60r.uuWdohPiFZBjB27CkudGlW2LN0J4OFl1_fm0ywWvwL.1Hjl7T.uVRYRQzJ.HpQUyBf1hwagQYsk0OvbZ9KLzHmZGwgQIWuJ5p0Pqc_ur9oS6yU7zL7ecY7h7Gg2Qy5gfl5pu9LY2_KHDh83mpeUSydmT8apy2fVgf4PnuWeReY3eG47_nzwcEnftZnR035wL8YzrcbmHpXiYxDZgaPa6a1Lm3e Received: from [199.46.198.232] by web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:17:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:17:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:17:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf9a61310371234514069 Pass the pictures, puleez...:) =A0 Boris =A0 P.S. It will be much more interesting that this thread (at least to me, sin= ce Acadia is my fav place in the world, except for my workdesk of course) P.P.S.=A0 Yes, I do envy you very much =A0 from Moose: Ah, several posts into this thread before anyone gave me a clue as to = what it is about. No newspapers, broadcast news or web news sites for 28 = days. Why do I feel like I've missed very little, and even less of any lasting = value? I tried reading the paper with my first meal of the day, as has been my = wont, but just couldn't get going. It all looked so stale and boring. On the other hand, the DVR performed admirably while we were away, so we = have too many shows from the new season to catch up on. Somehow, it = didn't catch the National Parks series on PBS, but we watched two while = on the road - the only TV we saw. It seemed fitting to watch the one = about Acadia the night before we headed there. The ones we missed will, = of course, be repeated endlessly. I also seem to have made a mistake in programming, so we missed the = first few episodes of Fringe. :-( = Moose, potshots welcome = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:23:25 2009 Received: (qmail 24240 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:23:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFB0E181A8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E829E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0720534AC028 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6DA34AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so8259845gxk.8 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.2.2 with SMTP id 2mr5549133ybb.16.1255119799030; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACF26DC0200004E0002A033@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:23:18 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0910091323g33d83a98p1cfae5ee09509c45@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:23:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf9bbd271221950411718 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I pick no sides, though. =A0I voted for Nader. So you were the guy. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:26:18 2009 Received: (qmail 21391 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:26:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD87E18228 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A8E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFBC19F5C7 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD3019F5BA for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.superhosting.ca (mail.superhosting.ca [69.90.83.197]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18864 invoked by uid 399); 9 Oct 2009 20:22:41 -0000 Received: from bas1-toronto05-1176310250.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ?192.168.51.152?) (ownvolition01@ownvolition.com@70.29.17.234) by mail.superhosting.ca with ESMTPAM; 9 Oct 2009 20:22:41 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 70.29.17.234 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:26:10 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize Thread-Index: AcpJHrze+0prorUREd6jFwAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910091323g33d83a98p1cfae5ee09509c45@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:26:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf9c6a93256107113666 On 10/9/09 4:23 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> I pick no sides, though. =A0I voted for Nader. > = > So you were the guy. > = > Joel W. The ones driving Corvairs didn't make it to the polling stations. Michael -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:31:17 2009 Received: (qmail 28742 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:31:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C409E1822B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDEAE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9845419F5D0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756E019F5DE for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9970 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 20:30:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:30:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACFD26E.7878.37CE7F@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4ACFD26E.7878.37CE7F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Message-Id: <99436918-28AF-4E6E-AB60-F9E16529309C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:31:05 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Fetishes, was Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:31:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf9d95115875683411216 That's the one - I've been arguing for a while that the best conservation technique for the Kakapo might be to make available to the pet market. Companion animals don't go extinct. Obviously they're easy to breed! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/10/2009, at 10:16 PM, Brian Swale wrote: > The latest fetish-type behaviour to hit U-tube inmolves a very > frustrated kakapo - > a rare ground parrot in New Zealand - rare at only 124 left alive; > total population. > > I haven't watched these videos myself as trying to watch them on > dial-up is more > trouble than it's worth; but there's quite a bit in the news about > this one. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEaUcG-yiY > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jedTYS5k0s > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/2944959/Frisky-kakapo-a- > YouTube-hit > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQfNZWEwN0I -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:37:22 2009 Received: (qmail 11087 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:37:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802A8E18255 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254F4E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1360C19F5F7 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B3B19F5F3 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1940369bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:37:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.6 with SMTP id 6mr1045811fal.21.1255120636417; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:37:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> References: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:37:16 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910091337q490abc52n26b86e2911a229ed@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] what kind of photographer are you X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:37:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acf9f02239631073733319 Very nice blog, thank you. Fernando 2009/10/9 siddiq@ucr.edu : > http://shutterfinger.typepad.com/shutterfinger/2009/10/what-type-of-photographer-are-you.html > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 22:44:05 2009 Received: (qmail 8602 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 20:44:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:44:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60943E181D6 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4FEE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D690334AC028 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2225234AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11463 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 20:43:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 20:43:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ACF5665.4080207@sfr.fr> References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> <4ACF5665.4080207@sfr.fr> Message-Id: <235CA223-A086-47DF-AF01-6E5CC24337EA@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:43:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 22:44:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfa095317776789618724 Yes there was but it is not a pro-grade camera. It was groundbreaking, the first SLR with Live View, achieved with a separate sensor in the viewfinder assembly. Then it gave up on that idea but Sony has just revived it in the a330/380 entry level models to speed up shooting in Live View. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/10/2009, at 2:27 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: >> long time between the E1 and E3 [...] >> > Was there an E330 in between? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 23:01:37 2009 Received: (qmail 4567 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 21:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 21:01:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463EDE182A1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A89E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8087E34AC026 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:01:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8C734AC051 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so6858075fxm.37 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:01:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.214 with SMTP id 22mr1049178fas.34.1255122088234; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:01:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910091337q490abc52n26b86e2911a229ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <97E1FE03-A8E9-4351-8300-BCDA2F2BD7EA@ucr.edu> <6f8422750910091337q490abc52n26b86e2911a229ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:01:28 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910091401l9a379a1se617fe640ca32bb4@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] what kind of photographer are you X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 23:01:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfa4b1128001413256596 Very interesting: seems he has thought the same way Leonardo da Vinci did: 'Per via de porre <-> Per via de levare' Fernando. 2009/10/9 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile : > Very nice blog, thank you. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Oct 9 23:15:57 2009 Received: (qmail 11243 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 21:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 21:15:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D771E1829D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B19CE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F282B1A01B6 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422BF1A0190 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so6866156fxm.37 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.136 with SMTP id m8mr168676hbg.131.1255122951043; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0910091323g33d83a98p1cfae5ee09509c45@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACF26DC0200004E0002A033@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <9e908c1f0910091323g33d83a98p1cfae5ee09509c45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:15:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05248fcd82a0d68d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Oct 9 23:15:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfa80d157521006886880 > > So you were the guy. > Guilty as charged. I would have loved to have been one of his raiders. But, alas, I'm considered unsafe at any speed too. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 00:51:26 2009 Received: (qmail 30130 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 22:51:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 22:51:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1E8E18255 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AEDE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69963610002 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98883610001 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:51:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2004758bwz.14 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.132.207 with SMTP id c15mr1052262fat.56.1255128674371; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:51:14 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 00:51:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfbe6e155151073733319 ROTFLOL ! It's been twelve years since I read his Pens=E9es in Spanish, now I have it in French - but I'm clueless on where Pascal wrote that. Maybe you can help me to find into which chapter :-) - since you're quoting in English, it becomes more difficult to use the Find command in AcobatReader ... and I may even be searching into a different book ... :-) I. ORDRE...................................................................= ...........................................................................= ................. 3 II VANIT=C9................................................................= ...........................................................................= .................. 4 III. MIS=C8RE..............................................................= ...........................................................................= ................ 10 IV. ENNUI..................................................................= ...........................................................................= .............. 14 V. RAISONS DES EFFETS......................................................= .......................................................................... 14 VI. GRANDEUR ..............................................................= ...........................................................................= ........ 17 VII. CONTRARI=C9T=C9S......................................................= ...........................................................................= ....... 19 VIII. DIVERTISSEMENT ...........................................................................= ....................................................... 23 IX. PHILOSOPHES............................................................= ...........................................................................= ...... 27 X. LE SOUVERAIN BIEN ...........................................................................= ...................................................... 28 XI. A. P. R................................................................= ...........................................................................= ................. 29 XII. COMMENCEMENT..........................................................= .......................................................................... 31 XIII. SOUMISSION ET USAGE DE LA RAISON.....................................................................= ........................ 33 XIV. EXCELLENCE............................................................= ...........................................................................= .... 35 XV. TRANSITION.............................................................= ...........................................................................= ...... 35 XV bis. LA NATURE EST CORROMPUE..................................................................= ....................................... 40 XVI. FAUSSET=C9 DES AUTRES RELIGIONS..................................................................= ................................. 40 XVII. RENDRE LA RELIGION AIMABLE....................................................................= ................................... 42 XVIII. FONDEMENTS..........................................................= ...........................................................................= .. 43 XIX. LOI FIGURATIVE........................................................= ...........................................................................= .. 45 XX. RABBINAGE .............................................................= ...........................................................................= ...... 52 XXI. PERP=C9TUIT=C9........................................................= ...........................................................................= .......... 53 XXII. PREUVES DE MOISE......................................................................= ........................................................ 55 XXIII. PREUVES DE J=C9SUS-CHRIST.............................................................= .................................................. 56 XXIV. PROPH=C9TIES.........................................................= ...........................................................................= ...... 59 XXV. FIGURES PARTICULI=C8RES...............................................= .................................................................... 62 XXVI. MORALE CHR=C9TIENNE..................................................= ..................................................................... 62 XXVII. CONCLUSION ...........................................................................= ........................................................... 65 Fernando. 2009/10/9 Andrew Fildes : > You can blame Blaise Pascal for that one. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 01:07:13 2009 Received: (qmail 1227 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 23:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 23:07:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5D7E182A2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4668E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32FC1A02EB for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2001A02E8 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n99N75Bd010441 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:07:05 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.cd4.581a07dd (55734) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.154]) by cia-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD041-d4194acfc20f53; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:07:03 -0400 Received: from webmail-d090 (webmail-d090.sim.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMD017-d4194acfc20f53; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:06:55 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:06:55 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.212.90.254 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 64.212.90.254 by webmail-d090.sysops.aol.com (205.188.252.208) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:06:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC174C5492F8D0-1710-EE9B@webmail-d090.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 01:07:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfc220223331234514069 No pot shots, just welcome home. Hope your trip was superb. Look fwd to some of your images as the mood strikes you to post them. Fringe: If all else fails, I believe you can stream the video from fox.com. Mike On the other hand, the DVR performed admirably while we were away, so we have too many shows from the new season to catch up on. Somehow, it didn't catch the National Parks series on PBS, but we watched two while on the road - the only TV we saw. It seemed fitting to watch the one about Acadia the night before we headed there. The ones we missed will, of course, be repeated endlessly. I also seem to have made a mistake in programming, so we missed the first few episodes of Fringe. :-( Moose, potshots welcome -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 01:21:18 2009 Received: (qmail 32533 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 23:21:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 23:21:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C542E18277 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BC8E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1B834AC027 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F9534AC025 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n99NL5D4027817 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:21:06 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.d5a.5302c5b8 (45326) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC052-5c434acfc4221e6; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:21:02 -0400 Received: from webmail-d090 (webmail-d090.sim.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA011-5c434acfc4221e6; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:15:46 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:15:46 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.212.90.254 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 64.212.90.254 by webmail-d090.sysops.aol.com (205.188.252.208) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:15:46 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC174D91058652-1710-F007@webmail-d090.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] CA X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 01:21:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfc56e229431234514069 Kinda liked the below explanation of terms. The CV 125/2.5 Apo-Lanthar shows some CA in in the foreground OOF area if there is a sharp edge of contrast at 1:1 esp if on the Mirex T-S adapter. Perhaps this is a special OOF CA. APO clearly does not = NO CA under all conditions. http://toothwalker.org/optics/chromatic.html An Aberrant Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 01:41:47 2009 Received: (qmail 29147 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2009 23:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 23:41:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04315E18255 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BA4E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2811A032C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:41:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0EE1A032F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:41:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.791) for ; 10 Oct 2009 10:41:37 +1000 Message-ID: <100.305705002fcacf4a.001@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:41:35 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.05 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.05.45.1425) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 01:41:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4acfca3b252542517112723 > > So I wandered onto a site with free POS software. > > Methinks this is one acronym one should always spell out. I personally > try to avoid POS software. :-) I'll agree with Moose, and here I was thinking there was something I could run under POS on my DEC Pro380 :o) Having been in the computer game, I did however instantly think POS = Point of Sale Cheers Ian Manners Chairman Bill's favorite drink: fresh-squeezed Lemming-aide! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 07:14:15 2009 Received: (qmail 6252 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 05:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 05:14:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5648FE181B2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFACE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5388A1CD485 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:14:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998E11CD481 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19634 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 05:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 05:13:14 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:13:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 07:14:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad01827118631946193717 I don't think it's in the Pens=E9es and I'm ashamed to admit that I've = only read him second hand or in quotation (see Black Swan, Nicholas = Taleb). It is his Gaming Theory which is notorious for his proof that = it is better to believe in God than to be an atheist because, simply, = if you are wrong, it doesn't matter and if you are right then = benefits accrue. I used to think that was a bit cynical but now I understand that it = is simply a statement in probability. I like his basic gaming theory because it challenges the problem of = polarity. If you have two variables, you don't have two choices - you = have four. There is that old Machiavellian comment that 'the enemy of my enemy = is my friend'. A nice point in strategy but Pascal would have pointed = out that he might still be just another enemy of mine as well, or = both enemy and friend at different points or completely unconcerned = by my fate. Yes, I know that it misses the point a bit but this is = maths, not politics. It begins to sound a bit Donald Rumsfeld at this = point (known knowns, known unknowns, unknown knowns, unknown unknowns = - yes, I'm afraid it makes sense, it works and military strategists = use it. I'll unpack them if you like). He would respond to two variables by drawing up a four square grid = with / Yes / No / Yes AND No / NEITHER yes NOR no / in the squares. = The the values of each position could be calculated. The problem with polar thinking is that we forget the other two = choices - we come to a fork in the road and assume that there are two = choices, left or right. But we also have the choices of turning = around and going back - or staying where we are setting up a hot dog = stand to serve others trying to make up their minds. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/10/2009, at 9:51 AM, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ROTFLOL ! > > It's been twelve years since I read his Pens=E9es in Spanish, now I have > it in French - but I'm clueless on where Pascal wrote that. > > Maybe you can help me to find into which chapter :-) - since you're > quoting in English, it becomes more difficult to use the Find command > in AcobatReader ... and I may even be searching into a different book > ... :-) > > I. = > ORDRE................................................................. = > ...................................................................... = > ........................ > 3 > II = > VANIT=C9................................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ....................... > 4 > III. = > MIS=C8RE................................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ................... > 10 > IV. = > ENNUI................................................................. = > ...................................................................... = > .................... > 14 > V. RAISONS DES = > EFFETS................................................................ = > ................................................................ > 14 > VI. = > GRANDEUR ............................................................. = > ...................................................................... = > .............. > 17 > VII. = > CONTRARI=C9T=C9S.........................................................= . = > ...................................................................... = > ........ > 19 > VIII. DIVERTISSEMENT > ...................................................................... = > ............................................................ > 23 > IX. = > PHILOSOPHES........................................................... = > ...................................................................... = > ............ > 27 > X. LE SOUVERAIN BIEN > ...................................................................... = > ........................................................... > 28 > XI. A. P. = > R..................................................................... = > ...................................................................... = > ................. > 29 > XII. = > COMMENCEMENT.......................................................... = > ...................................................................... = > .... > 31 > XIII. SOUMISSION ET USAGE DE LA > RAISON................................................................ = > ............................. > 33 > XIV. = > EXCELLENCE............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ......... > 35 > XV. = > TRANSITION............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ............ > 35 > XV bis. LA NATURE EST > CORROMPUE............................................................. = > ............................................ > 40 > XVI. FAUSSET=C9 DES AUTRES > RELIGIONS............................................................. = > ...................................... > 40 > XVII. RENDRE LA RELIGION > AIMABLE............................................................... = > ........................................ > 42 > XVIII. = > FONDEMENTS............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ..... > 43 > XIX. LOI = > FIGURATIVE............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ... > 45 > XX. = > RABBINAGE ............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ............ > 52 > XXI. = > PERP=C9TUIT=C9...........................................................= . = > ...................................................................... = > ........... > 53 > XXII. PREUVES DE > MOISE................................................................. = > ............................................................. > 55 > XXIII. PREUVES DE > J=C9SUS- = > CHRIST................................................................ = > ............................................... > 56 > XXIV. = > PROPH=C9TIES............................................................ = > ...................................................................... = > ........ > 59 > XXV. FIGURES = > PARTICULI=C8RES......................................................... = > .......................................................... > 62 > XXVI. MORALE = > CHR=C9TIENNE............................................................ = > ........................................................... > 62 > XXVII. CONCLUSION > ...................................................................... = > ................................................................ > 65 > > Fernando. > > 2009/10/9 Andrew Fildes : > >> You can blame Blaise Pascal for that one. >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 08:13:20 2009 Received: (qmail 25348 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 06:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 06:13:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464DBE1829F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB68EE240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E071CD487 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4063D1CD481 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.red-83-45-238.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.238.127]:55151 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MwVCV-0001qJ-Jq (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:13:07 +0000 From: Nathan Wajsman Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:13:05 +0200 Message-Id: To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 08:13:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad02600120881744846740 Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=292 And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 08:39:25 2009 Received: (qmail 30758 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 06:39:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 06:39:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF29E1822B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38857E240E2 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F49B1CD487 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:39:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3751D1CD481 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d58-104-61-27.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.61.27]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9A6dGYs022115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:39:18 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> <100.305705002fcacf4a.001@comkal.net> In-Reply-To: <100.305705002fcacf4a.001@comkal.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:39:19 +1100 Message-ID: <007b01ca4974$660b48d0$3221da70$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpJOhHbIJFof2nAQEeLSoLtUCzQ3QAOjzuQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 08:39:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad02c1d323151073733319 > > I'll agree with Moose, and here I was thinking there was something > I could run under POS on my DEC Pro380 :o) > Was that a cut down version of RSX ? ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 10:16:53 2009 Received: (qmail 15657 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 08:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 08:16:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAAAE1824E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ABAE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48E319DC0F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4832019DBED for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com (mail-yx0-f204.google.com [209.85.210.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so2565131yxe.22 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.76.3 with SMTP id y3mr6355034yba.48.1255162604217; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910100115y71ccbf8yc8ca0c47ed3eb656@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac27f4f0910100115y71ccbf8yc8ca0c47ed3eb656@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:16:44 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Saturday Taiko X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 10:16:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad042f571816107113666 Last weekend, I spent 3 days shooting 4 Taiko concerts - the 2nd annual Meigetsu (Harvest Moon) festival. Each concert is different, with may be a dozen groups altogether. ISO1600, 1/40 @F2 is not uncommon. I just keep remembering Ted Grant's words - "if you can see it, you can shoot it." I shot ~6000 frames, for the performers, I culled them down to ~1200. Obviously the complete set is only of interest to the performers. I culled 72 of my favorites. Perhaps you would enjoy them: http://www.rfman.com/Taiko/Meigetsu-2009/Best-Of/ -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 10:29:39 2009 Received: (qmail 4808 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 08:29:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 08:29:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4E4E1824D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD9E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308DE34AC027 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F1234AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:29:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (smtp06.online.nl [194.134.42.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230C996238 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:29:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:29:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 10:29:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad045f3305372013633067 Realy like the main image. Could be used as an advert showing cycling makes for nice legs ;-) ALABICI =3D something like Alicante Bi Cycle? Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Nathan Wajsman [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] = > Verzonden: zaterdag 10 oktober 2009 8:13 > Aan: Leica Users Group; leica@freelists.org; Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 39: =A1A la bici! > = > = > Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the = > streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with = > normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: > = http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D292 And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com = Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.8/2423 - Release Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 10:36:30 2009 Received: (qmail 25028 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 08:36:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 08:36:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC162E1829E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7777E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B9634AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:36:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF5134AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:36:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (smtp08.online.nl [194.134.42.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFBD66302 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:36:22 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:36:21 +0200 Message-ID: <603BAAB27F26428FAA7741C5B2E20B13@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Saturday Taiko X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 10:36:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0478e4659752976205 Very nice set of stagephotos Richard. I really enjoyed their smiles when hitting the drums. Good agression therapy that must be. 1/40 @ F2? The 35-100 F2 comes to mind, but holding that still enough, even with IS, when shooting 6000 shots is a real challenge I guess. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Richard Man [mailto:richard.lists@gmail.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 10 oktober 2009 10:17 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] Saturday Taiko > > > Last weekend, I spent 3 days shooting 4 Taiko concerts - the > 2nd annual Meigetsu (Harvest Moon) festival. Each concert is > different, with may be a dozen groups altogether. ISO1600, > 1/40 @F2 is not uncommon. I just keep remembering Ted Grant's > words - "if you can see it, you can shoot it." I shot ~6000 > frames, for the performers, I culled them down to ~1200. > Obviously the complete set is only of interest to the performers. > > I culled 72 of my favorites. Perhaps you would enjoy them: http://www.rfman.com/Taiko/Meigetsu-2009/Best-Of/ -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.8/2423 - Release Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 10:40:30 2009 Received: (qmail 16063 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 08:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 08:40:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4E6E18277 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC4E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8231419DC6F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EDD19DC6E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f204.google.com (mail-yx0-f204.google.com [209.85.210.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so2572121yxe.22 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.237.9 with SMTP id k9mr6328653ybh.108.1255164022229; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <603BAAB27F26428FAA7741C5B2E20B13@wiliam> References: <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> <603BAAB27F26428FAA7741C5B2E20B13@wiliam> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0910100140i51ba515al34673cf17056d4cc@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Saturday Taiko X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 10:40:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0487e167061357919056 Yes, the 35-100/2. In ideal case, I would have another E-3 with 14-35/2 :-) By the end of the 4th concert, my left arm definitely feels it :-), especially I manual focus a lot. Thanks for the kind words. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Very nice set of stagephotos Richard. I really enjoyed their smiles when > hitting the drums. Good agression therapy that must be. 1/40 @ F2? The > 35-100 F2 comes to mind, but holding that still enough, even with IS, > when shooting 6000 shots is a real challenge I guess. > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 11:16:00 2009 Received: (qmail 7537 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 09:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 09:15:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB54E1824E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD94DE240CB for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669734AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BABD34AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAEF4617D2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:42:26 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:15:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: Message-Id: <3AED6E3D-C84F-4E03-9A48-438B648F20CD@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 11:16:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad050d0322481744846740 Thanks, Nathan. The warmth did it for me: the warm rain, the empty (and clean!) beach and then the chap sunning himself in the sun's warmth. Photos of sculpture seem to leave me cold. I like taking photos of art such as those bronzes, but they don't seem to work. Perhaps it's because they are their own art and being reproduced reduces their depth, or it removes the essential texture. Chris On 10 Oct 2009, at 07:13, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the > streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with > normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=292 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 11:20:12 2009 Received: (qmail 23762 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 09:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 09:20:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FB1E182A1 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DA0E240CB for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED9C19DD5B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D18819DD4A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFE9461890 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:46:38 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Barker Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:20:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7ac27f4f0910100115y71ccbf8yc8ca0c47ed3eb656@mail.gmail.com> <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <59CCF2E0-A2B8-4A0A-B1F5-337FF4CDAB7D@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Saturday Taiko X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 11:20:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad051cc247221950411718 Thanks, Richard. That looks like a strange pastime, but I bet it sounds good. The actors and players all look as if they are enjoying themselves, but my favourite is 7826; there is something really sexy about the dynamism ... and the legs :-) Chris On 10 Oct 2009, at 09:16, Richard Man wrote: > Last weekend, I spent 3 days shooting 4 Taiko concerts - the 2nd > annual Meigetsu (Harvest Moon) festival. Each concert is different, > with may be a dozen groups altogether. ISO1600, 1/40 @F2 is not > uncommon. I just keep remembering Ted Grant's words - "if you can see > it, you can shoot it." I shot ~6000 frames, for the performers, I > culled them down to ~1200. Obviously the complete set is only of > interest to the performers. > > I culled 72 of my favorites. Perhaps you would enjoy them: > http://www.rfman.com/Taiko/Meigetsu-2009/Best-Of/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 13:02:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13546 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 11:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 11:02:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5EDE182A1 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA3E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1A219E037 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:01:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA2D19E033 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.58.230] (230.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.230]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004903DA419 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:01:53 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:01:22 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AD12052.2634.1A20E18@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091009-0, 09/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] adjusting the 24 shift mechanism X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 13:02:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad069ad326521076813867 Iwert Bernakiewicz wrote > Hello everybody, > > My 24 shift is showing some vertical creep lately, not exactly what > you want during exposure :). > I have adjusted my 35 shift myself, but don't know if the mechanism is the > same. I can see a lot more screws in the construction of the 24... > > Anybody on the list with experience in handling this. Epoxy is no option > :) The 35 shift is not difficult to stiffen once it starts slipping. Is the construction of the 24 shift so very different ?? Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 14:50:48 2009 Received: (qmail 5935 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 12:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 12:50:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27218E18064 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47179E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863319E431 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1119E430 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7119270fxm.37 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.103.25 with SMTP id i25mr1143618fao.64.1255179039296; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:50:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:50:39 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910100550g8e7d6a7q71e9e6cfc6b7b789@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Cc: Andrew Fildes , Brian Swale Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 14:50:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad08328314421950411718 Fine, I'm ashaned to admit I read it because I found it in my father's library - he was supposed to study it when he was 15, which I doubt. I was able to understand it at 37, and it seems I should read it again (along with Montaigne, at least Essays III). Now that you mention his Gaming Theory, maybe I'll find the time to go quickly through the Spanish version - I have an intuition I already found it there ... anyway, 'though you put Nicol=F3 as an example, I think Blaise main dissagreement was with Ren=E9e (res extensa / res cogitans), only that Ren=E9 was not alive to tell if he agreed or not with Blaise :-) Well, I should find the time for books, since I found an f=3D170mm poorly described in NZ - a perfect match for the 80/4 I bought to John. I may ask Brian for help on this one - only hope that he's not out riding his Toyota .... usd 50 is too little money to re-enter my cc into Paypal again, that piece of glass should be closely inspected -it's not a simple close-up lens-, I'm too far away to return it and the 80/4 will arrive in December ... f=3D170mm ends on Oct12. Obviously, this purchase cannot be reduced to a 50 / 50% polar thinking - I doubt four are enough, six might be :-) Well, I have already Pens=E9es in my hands - I have to wash my teeth and other toilette affairs. Shall tell you what I found after thinking Thoughts twelve years after. Fernando. 2009/10/10 Andrew Fildes : > I don't think it's in the Pens=E9es and I'm ashamed to admit that I've > only read him second hand or in quotation (see Black Swan, Nicholas > Taleb). It is his Gaming Theory which is notorious for his proof that > it is better to believe in God than to be an atheist because, simply, > if you are wrong, it doesn't matter and if you are right then > benefits accrue. > I used to think that was a bit cynical but now I understand that it > is simply a statement in probability. > I like his basic gaming theory because it challenges the problem of > polarity. If you have two variables, you don't have two choices - you > have four. > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 15:32:01 2009 Received: (qmail 30315 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 13:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 13:32:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0460E181CB for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94755E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A11F34AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:31:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFA034AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.791) for ; 11 Oct 2009 00:31:50 +1000 Message-ID: <100.989f0400c58cd04a.015@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:31:49 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <007b01ca4974$660b48d0$3221da70$@com.au> References: <29038E3F-4518-4649-A422-2EDD4A0B8344@roadrunner.com> <4ACF96BD.6040709@gmail.com> <100.305705002fcacf4a.001@comkal.net> <007b01ca4974$660b48d0$3221da70$@com.au> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.05 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.05.45.1425) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Found on the Internet X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 15:32:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad08cd1309351946193717 Hi Wayne, > > I'll agree with Moose, and here I was thinking there was something > > I could run under POS on my DEC Pro380 :o) > > Was that a cut down version of RSX ? A GUI version meant for the desktop :-) Cheers Ian Manners Does anyone play Nintendo anymore?? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 15:43:07 2009 Received: (qmail 9840 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 13:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 13:43:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9482AE182A3 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D764E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699FF34AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89B934AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7136467fxm.37 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.15 with SMTP id q15mr208669hba.121.1255182180580; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac27f4f0910100115y71ccbf8yc8ca0c47ed3eb656@mail.gmail.com> <7ac27f4f0910100116w775feb7drb71541df63eaeaac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:43:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9772368d54e06df7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Saturday Taiko X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 15:43:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad08f6b63233900897491 Where do I sign up? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 17:21:08 2009 Received: (qmail 29618 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 15:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 15:21:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE75E18246 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771C4E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EE534AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D7134AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7170788fxm.37 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.29.193 with SMTP id r1mr1175191fac.29.1255188057232; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:20:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910100550g8e7d6a7q71e9e6cfc6b7b789@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910100550g8e7d6a7q71e9e6cfc6b7b789@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:20:57 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910100820g35d83ccfr82852b9f95ac2123@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 17:21:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0a66499571258626592 Found it: in this 1933 edition, on page 96, pens=E9e 233, Chapter 3. Below, pasted a small part of it, it was a little difficult to match my 1933 paperback edition with the more complete .pdf in French - there were several editions of the Pens=E9es - I had thought this translation was done from the PortRoyale edition, not quite sure ... anyway, here it is: S=C9RIE II Infini-rien 418-233 Infini rien. [big snip!] " .... Oui, mais il faut parier. Cela n'est pas volontaire, vous =EAtes embarqu=E9s. Lequel prendrez-vous donc? Voyons; puisqu'il faut choisir voyons ce qui vous int=E9resse le moins. Vous avez deux choses =E0 perdre : le vrai et le bien, et deux choses =E0 engager : votre raison et votre volont=E9, votre connaissance et votre b=E9atitude, et votre nature deux choses =E0 fuir : l'erreur et la mis=E8re. Votre raison n'est pas plus bless=E9e puisqu'il faut n=E9cessairement choisir, en choisissant l'un que l'autre. Voil=E0 un point vid=E9. Mais votre b=E9atitude? Pesons le gain et la perte en prenant croix que Dieu est. Estimons ces deux cas : si vous gagnez vous gagnez tout, et si vous perdez vous ne perdez rien : gagez donc qu'il est sans h=E9siter. Cela est admirable. Oui il faut gager, mais je gage peut=EAtre trop. Voyons puisqu'il y a pareil hasard de gain et de perte, si vous n'aviez qu'=E0 gagner deux vies pour une vous pourriez encore gager, mais s'il y en avait 3 =E0 gagner? Il faudrait jouer (puisque vous =EAtes dans la n=E9cessit=E9 de jouer) et vous seriez imprudent lorsque vous =EAtes forc=E9 =E0 jouer de ne pas hasarder votre vie pour en gagner 3 =E0 un jeu o=F9 il y a pareil hasard de perte et de gain. Mais il y a une =E9ternit=E9 de vie de bonheur. Et cela =E9tant quand il y aurait une infinit=E9 de hasards dont un seul serait pour vous, vous auriez encore raison de gager un pour avoir deux, et vous agirez de mauvais sens, en =E9tant oblig=E9 =E0 jouer, de refuser de jouer une vie contre trois =E0 un jeu ou d'une infinit=E9 de hasards il y en a un pour vous, s'il y avait une infinit=E9 de vie infiniment heureuse =E0 gagner : mais il y a ici une infinit=E9 de vie infiniment heureuse =E0 gagner, un hasard de gain contre un nombre fini de hasards de perte et ce que vous jouez est fini. Cela =F4te tout parti partout o=F9 est l'infini et o=F9 il n'y a pas infinit=E9 de hasards de perte contre celui de gain. Il n'y a point =E0 balancer, il faut tout donner. Et ainsi quand on est forc=E9 =E0 jouer, il faut renoncer =E0 la raison pour garder la vie plut=F4t que de la hasarder pour le gain infini aussi pr=EAt =E0 arriver que la perte du n=E9ant." Nonetheless - this very famous 233 has been studied by someone named Lanson, and later by Giraud in accordance with Brunschvicg, who, together with Esteban P=E9rier, pointed out that this 'parie' metaphor is not included in the PortRoyal edition, and could be only written / included into an 'ad hoc' edition for who now we could name as 'agnostics'. Therefore, I may agree it is cynical (in the strict philosophic sense of cynical - and certainly ironic in a strictly socratic sense) - and not a simple statement in probability. Yet, Pascal was a mathematician and other things too .... ;-) Definitively, I prefer Montaigne ... much less deterministic. Fernando 2009/10/10 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile : > > Shall tell you what I found after thinking Thoughts twelve years after. > > Fernando. > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 17:45:57 2009 Received: (qmail 10055 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 15:45:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 15:45:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BF7E182A4 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0495E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984E319EDF4 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7DF19EDEB for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2257650bwz.14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.145 with SMTP id q17mr210331hbg.136.1255189549324; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:45:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8bee81e359625159 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] This guy gets it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 17:45:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0ac35109576107113666 http://www.whattheduck.net/ WTD 633 Saturday My wife and I had this very conversation this week. Scary AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 18:41:25 2009 Received: (qmail 11234 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 16:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 16:41:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE26BE181BA for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3402E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD58719F66A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F87019F65D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5793 invoked by uid 503); 10 Oct 2009 16:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 10 Oct 2009 16:41:14 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:41:13 -0700 Message-ID: <001401ca49c8$7b625850$722708f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpJwMMkjvhLJIskTvupw5CivvjcogAB0cwA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] This guy gets it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 18:41:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0b935139073900897491 Could what the duck be the secret treasure chest you dip into for wedding photography advice? http://web.me.com/aaronandpatty/What_the_Duck/Comic_Strips/Entries/2009/10/5 _WTD_812.html Yes, scary. Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:46 AM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] This guy gets it http://www.whattheduck.net/ WTD 633 Saturday My wife and I had this very conversation this week. Scary AG -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 19:07:51 2009 Received: (qmail 11298 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 17:07:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 17:07:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D2FE1819F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176DEE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1E534AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593DF34AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2283419bwz.14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.30 with SMTP id s30mr227318hbg.171.1255194464652; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:07:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <001401ca49c8$7b625850$722708f0$@com> References: <001401ca49c8$7b625850$722708f0$@com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:07:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d4ffbfb59c2c81e9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This guy gets it X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 19:07:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0bf67325111234514069 > > Could what the duck be the secret treasure chest you dip into for wedding > photography advice? > Do I have to answer that question? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 20:21:41 2009 Received: (qmail 32152 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 18:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 18:21:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B711E1829E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF089E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA88434AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8079B34AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dallasgossfamily@tx.rr.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [76.183.247.66]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010182133167.OAON12917@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:21:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4AD0D0AB.702@tx.rr.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:21:31 -0500 From: Steve & Alicia Goss User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4ACEED4F.7000906@sfr.fr> <75C7E64C-1039-4171-A606-C49BA644C837@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus question from new member X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 20:21:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0d0b5101841006886880 Frank- Next time you might try the Dicapac underwater SLR case. It's about $120 or so on *bay, and does keep your camera dry. You can check out some pictures I got with an E-510 & 40-150 in one of them at . Check out the pictures with an underscore in the file name in the "8th Kayaking I" in Fall 2009 Adventures. (No, I did not take the picture on the main screen) Thanks, Steve3 goss Frank Wijsmuller wrote: > Hello Philippe, > > On a side note, one of my e-1 died recently because it submerged (a bit > clumpsy in a canoe ;-). I think I should have get the battery out > immediatly, but I didn't (the kids were first priority ;-). However, my > 14-54mm survived and still functions as far as I can see. > > Good luck with your choice, > > regards, Frank. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:11:27 2009 Received: (qmail 23783 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:11:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:11:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1BE1822E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C87E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0FD19F861 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:11:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E706D19EC27 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010191119943.IMQU14562@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:11:19 +0000 Message-Id: <6429AC9F-4BFD-4E88-AFF8-3AE9EB13732E@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:11:19 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:11:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0dc5f285327801554290 Ah, Penman. Rich, but deadly to some pens. Not so bad in others. I think I actually have a bottle or two around here somewhere, though I'm not sure I could lay my hands on them. I don't know Storm, but I've heard of Claret. Never tried it. I've got an Omas red that I like quite a lot. And there's an old Shaeffer, Persian something, that is _really_ nice. That place in Scotland, not where the fictional detective Hamish MacBeth hangs out, is it? --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 9, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Agreed! I received a couple of decent inks last Christmas: Caran > d'Ache "Storm" and Yard-o-Led "Claret". I am still only halfway > through Storm. I miss the Parker Penman inks, of which I have only a > bit of "Mocha" left. Apparently it tended to block pens and Parker > withdrew it several years ago. > > I don't have a view of the breakers here, but I know a lovely place on > the northwest coast of Scotland that would fit that bill nicely ... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:17:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11227 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:17:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:17:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95EAE1829E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0237E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56F634AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDBB34AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010191751716.QACR16663@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:17:51 +0000 Message-Id: <4800A03A-85DB-4121-9B7C-3F58290DA1DD@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:17:51 -0400 References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:17:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0dde6249416107113666 While not wishing to incriminate myself, I nevertheless can say there is a certain pleasure in a fine pen, a fine ink, and a quality piece of paper, such as the notebooks by Clairfontaine. Something about that smooth glide of gold nib, ink and paper. Yes, I think fetish can be stretched that far. Mont Blanc? I don't wish to start any flame wars here, but I think they are most attractive when their "precious resin" is ground to powder beneath my heel. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:06 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Technically fetishes only involve behaviours which cause sexual > titillation...is someone suggesting that you get get a bit > unnecessary over a pen or two? > I went and fondled my Mont Blanc but no, nothing...no stirring in the > nether regions, much as I like it (especially with that Bordeaux > colour ink that looks a bit like dried blood). Is there any > particular routine or discipline involved in generating the > excitement required or should I go back to pigeon racing? > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:25:24 2009 Received: (qmail 9123 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:25:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:25:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D735E18247 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65325E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA8F19F892 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE04C19F891 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010192516914.PEON12917@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:25:16 +0000 Message-Id: <5140520A-0AD0-4C89-8AEE-F36FC941BF44@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:25:16 -0400 References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:25:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0dfa4315491234514069 So that's where the rich come from? --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Oct 10, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > or staying where we are setting up a hot dog > stand to serve others trying to make up their minds. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:27:15 2009 Received: (qmail 30614 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6398E1822E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF151E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1B034AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D918834AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [76.179.69.131]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010192708310.DSAR18886@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:27:08 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:27:07 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:27:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0e01391731560218263 The Main, and Alt 9. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Oct 10, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the > streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with > normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=292 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:30:59 2009 Received: (qmail 14413 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:30:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF6CE181A3 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEF1E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B64A34AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FC834AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (pool-98-119-92-33.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [98.119.92.33]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id JTL72745 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" In-Reply-To: <4800A03A-85DB-4121-9B7C-3F58290DA1DD@roadrunner.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:30:51 -0700 Message-Id: <064E2B74-C0A7-4DB8-A74E-2D6692CCC15C@ucr.edu> References: <4ACC1D02.2070903@spokeandsprocket.com><14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> <4800A03A-85DB-4121-9B7C-3F58290DA1DD@roadrunner.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:30:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0e0f3156341950411718 On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > While not wishing to incriminate myself, I nevertheless can say there > is a certain pleasure in a fine pen, a fine ink, and a quality piece > of paper, such as the notebooks by Clairfontaine. Something about that > smooth glide of gold nib, ink and paper. Yes, I think fetish can be > stretched that far. +1 > > Mont Blanc? I don't wish to start any flame wars here, but I think > they are most attractive when their "precious resin" is ground to > powder beneath my heel. +1 Pelikan M200 + Aurora Blue for me. Only things I could afford in college. Did all my essays and note taking with that! Got a lot of looks, but as you say, something about a smoothly scratching nib across paper, very tactile, and seeing the ink go from a shimmery liquid to dry as you write. Sadly, don't write nearly enough to use it anymore... I should pull it out, clean it, and stick in my laptop case again :) /s -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 21:32:21 2009 Received: (qmail 27975 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 19:32:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 19:32:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DF2E1824D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F0E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F81434AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A68334AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7253182fxm.37 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.25 with SMTP id n25mr253056hbn.8.1255203134704; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:32:14 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04a01b62c3e7fec4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Cruelty Abounds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 21:32:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0e145118536107113666 AG (Amish) Schnozz has one basic rule for surviving in the photographic world: Never borrow a piece of equipment that you aren't prepared to actually buy. This has little to do with damage and everything to do with wanting one for yourself. For several years now I have avoided the 50-200 like the plague. I KNOW it's a nice lens and everything, but I insist on avoiding it because I know I want one. Then at our Iowa Zuikofest, Gordon brings his 150 F2 lens. I made the detrimental error of actually trying it out. Oh, man.... Last night I FINALLY broke down and against my better judgment borrowed a 50-200swd to shoot a high-school football (American) game. For the first half I was using my lenses, but second half was 50-200swd on the E-1. This just isn't fair you know... Why, you ask, is the Schnozz shooting high-school sports right now? I'm now a stringer for one of the local papers and I also got the contract to be the official team photographer for a semi-pro football team for the 2010 season. So, I must practice and prepare. I have several observations: 1. The 50-200swd on the E-1 is actually bloody fast in the AF department. I had no problem with it other than it front-focusing on somebody stepping into the scene. I resolved that quickly by changing to center-point only. I had exposure locked down in manual mode so there was no further delay for the camera to figure out what to do with the scene once it found focus. The swd version of the 50-200 really is much faster than the original version. 2. What is the maximum safe flash sync speed on the E-1? It sure would be nice to know when you are on location... 3. Black uniforms turn magenta when the T45 flash is overpowering the scene. Was this the M8 or the E-1? 4. I really want a larger viewfinder. 5. The Weight/balance of the 50-200 on the grip/e-1/t45 is about perfect. Of course I'd like it lighter, but it handheld very well. 6. If there was any one thing that really bugs me about the 50-200 is the zoom ring rotates too far. I always place my left hand UNDER the lens and rotate the rings with my thumb and middle finger. Doing it this way requires to complete movement to zoom from one extreme to the other. The only way to do it in one is to have the left hand over the top of the lens and rotate the ring with the entire hand movement, not just a flick of the fingertips. 7. The Zuiko (OM) 35-80 F2.8 actually works very well for shooting from the sidelines except it is a flare-prone lens and when across the field towards the lights I got a lot of lost contrast. Otherwise, it was easy to focus and zoom. I could track well enough to not necessarily be a problem. 80mm was definitely too short on the long end, though. 8. Fast AF and a long zoom are fine and everything, but anticipating the plays and being in the right position is tough work and I need more practice. 9. It's a given that ISO 1600 sucks on the E-1 and I really want a faster frame rate. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 22:16:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24160 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 20:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 20:16:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5A3E181CF for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697DE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7F734AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B3E34AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2336509bwz.14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.136 with SMTP id m8mr247831hbg.131.1255205761341; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:16:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <064E2B74-C0A7-4DB8-A74E-2D6692CCC15C@ucr.edu> References: <14883a8b0910070555u532901f4tfa8493e5546d1fce@mail.gmail.com> <0E817A18-4BC8-413C-9EB0-C40460F705FD@roadrunner.com> <7ECBB684-CA4D-46F9-9EFE-B50F28A71300@threeshoes.net> <1A31D9CA-F1DC-4B0A-96CE-1C5C1341E702@roadrunner.com> <8E49BBBF-68BC-4777-B15E-6DA5060A5E94@people.net.au> <4800A03A-85DB-4121-9B7C-3F58290DA1DD@roadrunner.com> <064E2B74-C0A7-4DB8-A74E-2D6692CCC15C@ucr.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aeb45851df809541 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Parker 51, was Adventures in Cell Phones X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 22:16:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0eb8c65662517112723 > > Sadly, don't write nearly enough to use it anymore... I should pull it > out, clean it, and stick in my laptop case again :) > We really are a weird bunch... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Oct 10 23:24:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6752 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BE5E182A4 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAFCE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27731CD487 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:24:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F5B1CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16095 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 21:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 21:23:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6f8422750910100820g35d83ccfr82852b9f95ac2123@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACE2470.3010804@interisland.net> <2885CBE4-A1AF-4AF5-A5E1-12AE0606E2C8@frozenlight.eu> <14883a8b0910081205vcefb4f1t5cb76b893884426d@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910091551n336a95ecu6cbfe944276bc9d2@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910100550g8e7d6a7q71e9e6cfc6b7b789@mail.gmail.com> <6f8422750910100820g35d83ccfr82852b9f95ac2123@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:24:10 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT Succoth Holiday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Oct 10 23:24:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad0fb87250056107113666 Indeed he was a mathematician - comparing God to the infinite, neither odd nor even but unknowable in nature. Of course so was Plato and he used the odd/even dichotomy to make a metaphysical point as well. I don't think he was cynical in the modern sense, though the idea of 'reward for faith' is questionable - it is however very popular today. He also seems to have originate the existentialist concept of being thrown into the world and being forced to choose. As an agnostic, I choose not to choose. There is some explanation of the decision matrix here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager Apparently it was his conversations with Fermat which are the foundation of probability theory. I was amused to see that Richard Dawkins had offered an anti-Pascal Wager - and it seems crude to me. I always preferred an anti-Wager that suggested that if God exists and is benevolent, then s/he will understand and accept my genuine doubt and lack of faith. (No loss). If not, then God is not benevolent and unworthy of faith. Thus there is a four part analysis with benevolent/malevolent on one axis and exists/does not exist on the other. Living a 'good' ethical life without faith then has the highest value. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 11/10/2009, at 2:20 AM, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Therefore, I may agree it is cynical (in the strict philosophic sense > of cynical - and certainly ironic in a strictly socratic sense) - and > not a simple statement in probability. Yet, Pascal was a mathematician > and other things too .... ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:28:21 2009 Received: (qmail 30899 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:28:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:28:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E72E181AE for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5203FE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C50A34AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:28:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516A34AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20141 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 22:27:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:27:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:28:10 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Cruelty Abounds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:28:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad10a85319192439112457 Then I am in deep, dark trouble dammit. (D3x, 14-24mm, M9, mmmmm.....) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 11/10/2009, at 6:32 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > AG (Amish) Schnozz has one basic rule for surviving in the > photographic > world: Never borrow a piece of equipment that you aren't prepared to > actually buy. This has little to do with damage and everything to > do with > wanting one for yourself. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:38:43 2009 Received: (qmail 20058 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:38:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA00E18255 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861BDE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5831E1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:38:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568FF1CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27236 invoked by uid 504); 10 Oct 2009 22:38:32 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091009-0, 10/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:38:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad10cf3265781950411718 I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the > streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with > normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=292 > > And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:47:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10189 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:47:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:47:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7135E1822D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BF2E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4C334AC027 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8E34AC026 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sgomez.baja@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so2786287pzk.22 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.195.6 with SMTP id s6mr355542wff.48.1255214873385; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> References: <4ACF0FA7.1000902@sfr.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:47:53 -0700 Message-ID: <5bc0258e0910101547y6d1eacfcxf4a674cf5090ea16@mail.gmail.com> From: Scott Gomez To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Nobel Prize X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:47:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad10f1f28801413256596 Thank you, Philippe. One can only hope that many Americans come to see this in the same light that the Nobel Committee did... as a recognition of Mr. Obama restarting nuclear disarmament talks, of Mr. Obama's recognition that the world is a much different place than Mr.Bush and his ilk thought it to be, and of hope that the USA will continue in this direction. I, for one, am relieved to be rid of Shrub & Cronies--the only time in near 56 years I have been truly afraid (and ashamed) for my country. --- Scott Gomez On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Philippe Amard wrote: > More than to a man, I see it as being awarded to a whole nation. > Congrats to you all my American friends. > > Bien cordialement de Metz > Philippe > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:49:30 2009 Received: (qmail 5175 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:49:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5FEE181AC for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25DCE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD9434AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A65B34AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21973 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 22:48:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.157.216) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:48:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:49:21 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:49:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad10f7a46321744846740 They do indeed. You didn't go to rehab? As a nurse said to me - let the pain chase the meds - not vice versa. Oxycontin works. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 11/10/2009, at 9:38 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home > after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee > replaced. > My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. > Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:50:39 2009 Received: (qmail 12095 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:50:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:50:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19637E18255 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877D2E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B42334AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D05734AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sgomez.baja@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com (mail-px0-f185.google.com [209.85.216.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so7597286pxi.26 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.7.3 with SMTP id 3mr353229wfg.126.1255214975082; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <5bc0258e0910101549jfe1e16j6312da4bfc2f83c9@mail.gmail.com> From: Scott Gomez To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:50:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad10fbf294481006886880 Ouch, Chuck. Hope you're on the mend. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Chuck Norcutt < chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com> wrote: > I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home > after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. > My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. > Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 00:56:40 2009 Received: (qmail 7682 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 22:56:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:56:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1CE181B2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E98EE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BE01CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15CA1CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so2299645ewy.14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.171.12 with SMTP id y12mr2189582ebo.51.1255215390514; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4265522eyh.4.2009.10.10.15.56.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:56:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4583B41EC1F448E59C84577DA8B36B4B@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Thread-Index: AcpJ+mw7sFB1I3btQYi+grWM0QyyOwAAdtYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 00:56:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1112878201076813867 Chuck, Vicarious sympathy. A good friend recently underwent hip replacements however second procedure was delayed due to gross swelling and bruising. Thankfully the position improved successfully over time and the benefit is now being enjoyed. Trust you will recover speedily. Dave = -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] = Sent: 10 October 2009 23:39 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 39: =A1A la bici! I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. = My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. = Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the = > streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with = > normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: > = > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D292 > = > And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > = > Nathan > = > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > = > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > = > = > = -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 01:19:55 2009 Received: (qmail 12098 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 23:19:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 23:19:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C81E1822C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33580E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D8E1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657341CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n9ANJi18000563 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:19:46 GMT Message-ID: <3D43293C12E74CD084FAFD0EEDAC14DF@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:20:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 01:19:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1169b168456107113666 Hang in there, Chuck. A lot of folks are wishing you a better day tomorrow= , = and each one thereafter. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 39: =A1A la bici! >I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home > after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. > My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. > Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Last week started with several thousand people cycling through the >> streets of Alicante, continued with rain and a wine tasting, with >> normality to return towards the end of the week. It is all here: >> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D292 >> >> And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 01:21:34 2009 Received: (qmail 13882 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 23:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 23:21:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB76E18236 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8095BE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440A21CD48A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6791CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7310892fxm.37 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.20.85 with SMTP id e21mr1241126fab.25.1255216885246; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <946227.46530.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:21:25 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910101621gcd8c7g2ecd6a7e7d385191@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Printer Update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 01:21:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad116fe250671612113968 Always learning at this list: great. 'Till last October 08, I had my prints made with an Epson printer. 0.9 x 0.6 meters - I thought it was the only one in town that would print big .... by mere chance the daughter of a patient of mine commented on another she knew - I went to take a look, it was a big Canon which uses 12 cartridges of ink, and is capable of 1.50 meters wide on 180 gr. paper. And each printed meter costs usd 34. Not that I found the Epson prints bad - it's not my printer. But the Canon may be better. Shall see what it does when its rip faces aRGB :-) Oh, yes, I like them big ... Fernando. 2009/10/9 Ken Norton : > > It's funny that I won't touch a Canon camera but I have no problem with > Canon printers. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 01:46:43 2009 Received: (qmail 20279 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 23:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 23:46:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F13E1819F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D798E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536671CD48A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892D21CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12338 invoked by uid 502); 10 Oct 2009 23:46:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.191.45) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Oct 2009 23:46:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4AD11CCE.8040403@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:46:22 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010100020604010109050302" Subject: [OM] NY & New England - 2009 [was OT: Nobel Prize] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 01:46:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad11ce3276371560218263 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010100020604010109050302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Willie Wonka wrote: > Pass the pictures, puleez...:) > Only 6 of the 28 days were on Mt Desert, although it got a greater share of images. ~2400 digital and 30 film images in total, about 1/3 on the Island. It will be a while before a gallery appears, but as I look through them, I'll be posting some that catch my eye in one way or another. One person on the list knows who this foot and shoe belong to. An ultimate candid? > > Boris > > P.S. It will be much more interesting that this thread (at least to me, since Acadia is my fav place in the world, OK, OK, here's an Acadia image. It is the full frame and not a macro. Guess what and where, and I'll give you more. :-) > except for my workdesk of course) > P.P.S. Yes, I do envy you very much > A. Lucky Moose --------------010100020604010109050302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ --------------010100020604010109050302-- From nilsf Sun Oct 11 01:51:35 2009 Received: (qmail 23415 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 23:51:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 23:51:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FD8E182A2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66374E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3521E1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2331CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charliehorsedancer@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-iw0-f185.google.com (mail-iw0-f185.google.com [209.85.223.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn15 with SMTP id 15so668992iwn.27 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.121.164 with SMTP id h36mr9107912ibr.9.1255218686978; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:51:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD11CCE.8040403@gmail.com> References: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AD11CCE.8040403@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:51:26 -0300 Message-ID: <93592ffb0910101651y2a86eba6o3a7c7f0617b4549f@mail.gmail.com> From: Charlie Horse Dancer To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] NY & New England - 2009 [was OT: Nobel Prize] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 01:51:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad11e07281955683411216 The red toe and blue jeans belong to Ms Moose ! How could any self respecting Moose get closer to a his moose than by inspecting and posting an image of his favorite toe nail ? Charlie Horse Dancer. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Moose wrote: > Willie Wonka wrote: > >> Pass the pictures, puleez...:) >> >> > > Only 6 of the 28 days were on Mt Desert, although it got a greater share of > images. ~2400 digital and 30 film images in total, about 1/3 on the Island. > It will be a while before a gallery appears, but as I look through them, > I'll be posting some that catch my eye in one way or another. > > One person on the list knows who this foot and shoe belong to. An ultimate > candid? < > http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=NorthEast_2009/Massachusetts&image=_MG_7354ia.jpg > > > > Boris >> P.S. It will be much more interesting that this thread (at least to me, >> since Acadia is my fav place in the world, >> > > OK, OK, here's an Acadia image. It is the full frame and not a macro. Guess > what and where, and I'll give you more. :-) < > http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=NorthEast_2009/MtDesert&image=_MG_8634ia.jpg > > > > except for my workdesk of course) >> P.P.S. Yes, I do envy you very much >> >> > > A. Lucky Moose > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 02:05:49 2009 Received: (qmail 22360 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 00:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 00:05:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63A8E181AE for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1493E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59031CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBC51CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 896 invoked by uid 502); 11 Oct 2009 00:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.191.45) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2009 00:05:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4AD12153.90204@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:05:39 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AD11CCE.8040403@gmail.com> <93592ffb0910101651y2a86eba6o3a7c7f0617b4549f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <93592ffb0910101651y2a86eba6o3a7c7f0617b4549f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] NY & New England - 2009 [was OT: Nobel Prize] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 02:05:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1215d143305368819438 Charlie Horse Dancer wrote: > The red toe and blue jeans belong to Ms Moose ! > Nope. :-D Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 02:23:55 2009 Received: (qmail 1696 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88957E18214 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F47E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D434AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BD834AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (timhughes@ieee.org whitelisted) Received: from web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 83499 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2009 00:23:47 -0000 Message-ID: <98512.79943.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mmwya98VM1ksozwF3TA83nSc0azSgxeOie.iIG61fFsSJx6ONe5UQrzPx3luW0zGfodT.lJ812yHMDBAUPSxlbNECJeFDbubUOCDYzQMc375bDUsByUrJ2JsDuMxxlmVvg2nFYQ8bATp2fP1xglvhhPxRPZMjgIoA3ZAhVVohYqbetwugeRwgLAXzZlMi2XhEVThy0NqGBXiGjm467tkSfsMs3PblXcXptAdK7UXsJIOFNiKh2rsUYXGTuns7blA.LV2SCCh6mPeBV_V_r95mRY5EGL6Nd3X83HVsSV6jmylFnu6WbT6BZvOEhUc3pDtnMMEdrDJR2z3oAWCHJhc7Bs4cxrCbmHA.4zCnVzhHq5mJM85ZaY4RypkO4NWwPwoqw0zqDJtvOu1bY.ALOfDrgXPriq80UgfrWb.BIvZpG76XBamLbFqXXVUiw-- Received: from [99.157.205.170] by web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:46 PDT X-RocketYMMF: hi100@sbcglobal.net X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Hughes To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4AC949B8.6040106@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 02:23:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1259b157532013633067 Renata sells mainly to the watch market.=A0 = =A0 So the cell discharge curve shown in literature, is at a low current making= it look a bit better. Remember the OM's draw currents of ~16mA for short d= urations and the original 357's discharge curve was=A0rated=A0for significa= nt pulse current.=A0 Although not rated, the Renatas do have=A0low enough i= mpedance when new, however the shelf life is not nearly so good. =A0 The shelf life is much worse than Energizer. = Renata loses capacity at about 4~5% pa , versus ~ 1% for the Energizer. = I evaluated the Renatas when I was evaluating the original Energizers, and = they also have a fairly large increase in impedance after about 2 years of = storage, although that drops again as time goes on. = =A0 So if you do get Renatas, make sure you store then in refrigerator (not dee= p freeze) so they stay more like new when you need them.=A0Stored=A0at <5C = of typical refrigerator, the shelf=A0life should be comprable to energizer = stored unrefrigerated.=A0 Also get them from a supplier with a large turnov= er, so they are sure to be fresh. =A0 Tim Hughes --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Moose wrote: From: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 6:19 PM Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ... After a little of hair-pulling, am I correct in assuming that (at lea= st on paper), Renata 357 are somehow outstanding? > > >=A0=A0=A0 Yup, terrific. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 02:30:09 2009 Received: (qmail 589 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 00:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 00:30:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6F0E181D6 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC6DE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B2A34AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B621034AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:29:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24317 invoked by uid 502); 11 Oct 2009 00:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.191.45) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2009 00:29:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4AD12702.1050309@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:29:54 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <780554.9277.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AD11CCE.8040403@gmail.com> <93592ffb0910101651y2a86eba6o3a7c7f0617b4549f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <93592ffb0910101651y2a86eba6o3a7c7f0617b4549f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [OM] A new toy. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 02:30:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad127114071946193717 One of our friends in New England uses me as the dumping ground for odd bits of techie stuff she no longer wants, buts would prefer to give to someone she imagines will use, or at least enjoy them. A couple of years ago, it was two Oly cameras, a Stylus 35-70 and a D-460. This year it is a lens diopter measuring gauge. She was at one time an optician, but no longer. And I suppose they aren't much use nowadays in that job, anyway. I have no practical need for it, but love having it. It helps keep the old fashioned techie who keeps a mechanical stop watch on his desk and plays with mechanical cameras happy. Another beautifully made mechanical device. :-) Fun to play with. I have, for reasons not clear to me*, a set of 37mm close-up lenses. The front surface of the +1 is +5 diopters and the back surface -4, for a net of +1 diopter. Then the "No. 1" of a set of Vivitar C-U lenses is about +5.1 and -4.4. for a net of +0.7 diopter and the "No. 3" is +2.6 diopter. The brass mounted magnifying glass in my desk drawer is +2.6 on each side, total +5.2, so a focal length of ~200 mm. Moose * Aha! For the video camera. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 02:33:40 2009 Received: (qmail 5403 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 00:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 00:33:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5842AE181CC for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76559E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561A11CD48A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831781CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (timhughes@ieee.org whitelisted) Received: from web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.113]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32889 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2009 00:33:32 -0000 Message-ID: <908925.29445.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: C_zoOuAVM1l0UGXTtKimD1BY4ALlxGpyNskQuA.y5QeAto1IUle25GoQbSbXowSSB9IoZbwUyNCyIKjU7OF7GPF_tIiZSbk5mbczib8Fgr1HrOHrEiSRnID8qp5tGYb_ZV1AziGDPHahF1_6qHEsxoo0hk8085csxhfF0MgonSC08ewrhpxaQ.Dtk88m3cMOmxSVst9twDQIWjTZgTHJqNHOyxYbZla7SnhJgFKTSRWceQBkbzAZnHxyAbjeAkQY6FXTfoViIXt4.n2Lfqamj9IbggBZr4WHsF41lwoC2LzNr7ygza5QgQZV_HeoT9iVocCD0PYDSUV5WiYe0bHi1muMUM7TXxxWuDt7.EzaEBVnhlwPB.Dal17r0KpEZdyztAkJSLzJ1bDfEdMYRtcJUCU5E5_JSynYqL2lSF2vwA6O4qx0vY1lYGCV78N8 Received: from [99.157.205.170] by web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:32 PDT X-RocketYMMF: hi100@sbcglobal.net X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Hughes To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <98512.79943.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 02:33:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad127e4205007801554290 Here are many of=A0the 357 data sheets compared side bty side, including Re= nata, although it does not include the Renata impedance data and more detai= led aging info: http://olympus.dementia.org/Hardware/PDFs/357BatteryData.pdf =A0 Tim=A0 Hughes --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Tim Hughes wrote: From: Tim Hughes Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 5:23 PM Renata sells mainly to the watch market.=A0 = =A0 So the cell discharge curve shown in literature, is at a low current making= it look a bit better. Remember the OM's draw currents of ~16mA for short d= urations and the original 357's discharge curve was=A0rated=A0for significa= nt pulse current.=A0 Although not rated, the Renatas do have=A0low enough i= mpedance when new, however the shelf life is not nearly so good. =A0 The shelf life is much worse than Energizer. = Renata loses capacity at about 4~5% pa , versus ~ 1% for the Energizer. = I evaluated the Renatas when I was evaluating the original Energizers, and = they also have a fairly large increase in impedance after about 2 years of = storage, although that drops again as time goes on. = =A0 So if you do get Renatas, make sure you store then in refrigerator (not dee= p freeze) so they stay more like new when you need them.=A0Stored=A0at <5C = of typical refrigerator, the shelf=A0life should be comprable to energizer = stored unrefrigerated.=A0 Also get them from a supplier with a large turnov= er, so they are sure to be fresh. =A0 Tim Hughes --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Moose wrote: From: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 6:19 PM Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ... After a little of hair-pulling, am I correct in assuming that (at lea= st on paper), Renata 357 are somehow outstanding? > > >=A0=A0=A0 Yup, terrific. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 03:17:24 2009 Received: (qmail 12073 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 01:17:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 01:17:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C90AE181B9 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F772E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA901CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FDC1CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-127-85-128.aubnin.fios.verizon.net ([71.127.85.128]:59006 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mwn3l-0007tw-Dc for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:18 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:17:23 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] A new toy. Thread-Index: AcpKEJYA1KByGrYDEd63jgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <4AD12702.1050309@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] A new toy. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 03:17:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1322465681006886880 That looks cool! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-424-0897 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 10/10/09 8:29 PM, "Moose" wrote: > One of our friends in New England uses me as the dumping ground for odd > bits of techie stuff she no longer wants, buts would prefer to give to > someone she imagines will use, or at least enjoy them. > > A couple of years ago, it was two Oly cameras, a Stylus 35-70 and a > D-460. This year it is a lens diopter measuring gauge. > LensGauge.jpg> > > She was at one time an optician, but no longer. And I suppose they > aren't much use nowadays in that job, anyway. > > I have no practical need for it, but love having it. It helps keep the > old fashioned techie who keeps a mechanical stop watch on his desk and > plays with mechanical cameras happy. Another beautifully made mechanical > device. :-) > > Fun to play with. I have, for reasons not clear to me*, a set of 37mm > close-up lenses. The front surface of the +1 is +5 diopters and the back > surface -4, for a net of +1 diopter. > > Then the "No. 1" of a set of Vivitar C-U lenses is about +5.1 and -4.4. > for a net of +0.7 diopter and the "No. 3" is +2.6 diopter. > > The brass mounted magnifying glass in my desk drawer is +2.6 on each > side, total +5.2, so a focal length of ~200 mm. > > Moose > > * Aha! For the video camera. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 03:42:43 2009 Received: (qmail 15302 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 01:42:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 01:42:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A835E1829E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043BE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3C1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8981CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9B1gU3w005323 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:30 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c16.6f88ff5c (37144) for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.149]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA036-5c674ad137fe5b; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:26 -0400 Received: from webmail-d021 (webmail-d021.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.23]) by smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB025-5c674ad137fe5b; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:22 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:22 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.216 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:42:22 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC182B36208BC9-4AD8-C2E5@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] =?utf-8?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=C2=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 03:42:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad13813165835034211378 Marnie sees a majority of your posts--she voted for alt 11. I was not surprised. Thanks for posting. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 03:45:52 2009 Received: (qmail 17847 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 01:45:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 01:45:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB34E181AE for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42C5E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DABA1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70ED1CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (fgonzalezgentile@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2404741bwz.14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.6 with SMTP id 6mr1262431fal.21.1255225544670; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:45:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98512.79943.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4AC949B8.6040106@gmail.com> <98512.79943.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:45:44 -0200 Message-ID: <6f8422750910101845w2ef5adcftfe2987a28692b918@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 03:45:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad138d019856789618724 Yes !! - absolutely coincident with my experience - not as much with the 357 but quite so with the 386 SR1142W (SR43) I use in my OM 1n. Had bought a spare one while an Energizer was inside the OM 1n, checked and the 386 was alive after two years while the Renata was dead inside its envelope :-(. I had bought a pack of 10 357s which went to the fridge just in case, and bought only two 386 which are in the fridge too. Had thought it was a faulty unit - because I never ever had trouble with Renata into an OM 2n, nor do I have with the plain OM 4 (I'm taking them out of the body) - But the 4Ti lock-up I got with checked Renata and changing batteries pairs got me suspicious. No true reasons, the plain 4 works Ok ... Thanks a lot ... no good news: here it's Renata or nothing :-( Fernando. 2009/10/10 Tim Hughes : >, however the shelf life is not nearly so good. > > The shelf life is much worse than Energizer. > Renata loses capacity at about 4~5% pa , versus ~ 1% for the Energizer. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 03:47:06 2009 Received: (qmail 29077 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 01:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 01:47:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21548E181CF for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21553E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E8D1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9D91CD481 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9B1ktNM014001 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:55 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c46.640a607a (34921) for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.149]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA036-5c694ad13908d4; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:50 -0400 Received: from webmail-d021 (webmail-d021.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.23]) by smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB027-5c694ad13908d4; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:48 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:48 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.216 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28200-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:48 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC182BD4DC456F-4AD8-C366@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] =?utf-8?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=C2=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 03:47:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1391a134901950411718 I hope your are up and about pain-free soon. Mike My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 03:58:14 2009 Received: (qmail 2962 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 01:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 01:58:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6623EE1824C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D41E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6433C34AC025 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC43634AC024 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15486 invoked by uid 504); 11 Oct 2009 01:58:08 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 03:58:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad13bb62541234514069 The E-30 was announced 16-Oct-07. We're less than a week away from the 2 year anniversary of that announcement. I'd certainly wait at least until October was done with. Chuck Norcutt Philippe Amard wrote: > > Jim Couch wrote: > >> rumors of an Olympus announcement due at the end of the month >> > Thanks Jim, I think I can wait till then then. > Ph > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 04:12:11 2009 Received: (qmail 12723 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 02:12:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 02:12:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAFEE18245 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A29AE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84321CD48D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750A71CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25203 invoked by uid 504); 11 Oct 2009 02:12:05 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091010-0, 10/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Printer Update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 04:12:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad13efb151589730998309 Hmmm. I've never seen one and am sorry I mentioned it. However, I am unable to reconcile your description with that of Vincent Oliver of photo-i which says, in part _____________________________________________________________________ The one thing that strikes me with the Epson Stylus Photo 1400 is the build quality, it is first class. There is a lot of attention to small detail and the quality of components seems to be of a high standard. Many of the printers I have tested recently have kept the costs down by compromising on essential parts, and as a result I have seem floppy output trays and flimsy rear paper guide etc. I will cover the printer in use later in this review, but for this section I will take a quick overview on the features and parts. ______________________________________________________________________ Let us know what you think after you've actually tried to use it. Chuck Norcutt Willie Wonka wrote: > > Thanks to all who responded to my previous printer tread. > > > The Epson 1400 arrived yesterday, I would like to share the > impressions I got after the my fav son opened the package. > > Havent hooked it up yet, but I already think it is a piece of crap. > It would be a miracle if it survives even six months my printing rate > (about ten pages per week), before it goes to printer hell, or > wherever the bad printers go after they die. > > It is constructed from the cheapest plastic that you can find > anywhere. Those panels are so thin and flimsy, that the printer even > looks like it will colapse under its own weight. I am not kidding. > Pressing a button on it feels more like an attempt to keep the button > from falling on the ground... > > There was a reason seven years ago to switch from Epson to Canon, I > did not follow the logic and ended up with this. > > I feel much better now and you have my permission to switch back to > the other thread, you know which one...:) > > Boris > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 04:15:19 2009 Received: (qmail 19107 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 02:15:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 02:15:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EF3E181B9 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AF6E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6625319EE23 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061219EC66 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (timhughes@ieee.org whitelisted) Received: from web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.106]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 51157 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2009 02:14:59 -0000 Message-ID: <866068.51108.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: E0hJf3UVM1lYywatTD2NM8WsWTz9Kpx5xG843szao7Rtwy16p2c0zqWcnz_0ysIW2chlWkHYbVCAHoExXhaaJSbngqrW5tLW1ScaQR.GkmtjLXlFyhflHslcfjGXoLi.5ym5NTOC7LhTB75NgsKJtLefyH7lf_gpA7DcJ.qa_DGon1_zkjdBUBdsEj3T9ZB3ohXz7J44PvZ8FgWQcH.WsMX6BpOyCjLtYTQ9oDAhzF4yKZm4uXyu_AYTKcu_AWy0l5U_6RHx2ga5guoSBWdndjPE4YhqKM3DTITpGDNgmkZqpHuUXyUBPWjIl.AjwuQTgIh.z45oIKCpNupZSBdLTFDVGc72WGkO036ncoVLHaNi1JJAiGpmYHgJy5WKVKsp5mYa073lQCgny2yK.SO6SXM.iJgLGM2rgf04znoIq_m.p7xGf6Bdsbkwp0qW Received: from [99.157.205.170] by web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:14:59 PDT X-RocketYMMF: hi100@sbcglobal.net X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:14:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Hughes To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <908925.29445.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 04:15:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad13fb7189029730998309 Checking the data sheets again rather than my memory, the Energizer says -2= % pa and the renata -10% pa.=A0 = =A0 Energizer when I spoke to them, said=A0in accelerated testing it projected = out=A0at less than 2%=A0but that they did not want to put that=A0on data sh= eet.=A0 = =A0 Renata said they sell mostly to watch market, where they get used rapidly s= o not a big issue for them.=A0 =A0 Shelf Degradation is due to secondary reactions at electrode (purity of mat= erials) and also due to very slow loss of electrolyte/sealing. Energizer cl= aimed they have greatly improved sealing over their older cells and that is= why they have got such good shelf life.=A0 = =A0 In general the high discharge rate KOH cells, like original 357 are more di= fficult to seal than low rate (NaOH) cells.=A0 = =A0 tim H. --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Tim Hughes wrote: From: Tim Hughes Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 5:33 PM Here are many of=A0the 357 data sheets compared side bty side, including Re= nata, although it does not include the Renata impedance data and more detai= led aging info: http://olympus.dementia.org/Hardware/PDFs/357BatteryData.pdf =A0 Tim=A0 Hughes --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Tim Hughes wrote: From: Tim Hughes Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 5:23 PM Renata sells mainly to the watch market.=A0 = =A0 So the cell discharge curve shown in literature, is at a low current making= it look a bit better. Remember the OM's draw currents of ~16mA for short d= urations and the original 357's discharge curve was=A0rated=A0for significa= nt pulse current.=A0 Although not rated, the Renatas do have=A0low enough i= mpedance when new, however the shelf life is not nearly so good. =A0 The shelf life is much worse than Energizer. = Renata loses capacity at about 4~5% pa , versus ~ 1% for the Energizer. = I evaluated the Renatas when I was evaluating the original Energizers, and = they also have a fairly large increase in impedance after about 2 years of = storage, although that drops again as time goes on. = =A0 So if you do get Renatas, make sure you store then in refrigerator (not dee= p freeze) so they stay more like new when you need them.=A0Stored=A0at <5C = of typical refrigerator, the shelf=A0life should be comprable to energizer = stored unrefrigerated.=A0 Also get them from a supplier with a large turnov= er, so they are sure to be fresh. =A0 Tim Hughes --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Moose wrote: From: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] 357 batteries To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 6:19 PM Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ... After a little of hair-pulling, am I correct in assuming that (at lea= st on paper), Renata 357 are somehow outstanding? > > >=A0=A0=A0 Yup, terrific. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 04:16:25 2009 Received: (qmail 4963 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 02:16:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 02:16:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0D8E181DE for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402CAE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B57C1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9761519EC66 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2970 invoked by uid 502); 11 Oct 2009 02:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.196.3) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2009 02:15:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4AD13FBB.4080802@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:15:23 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 04:16:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad13ff9120101879814018 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. > Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. > Yow, that's a shame. I hope it improves soon. I helped my mom through two separate knee replacements several years apart. They had her on machines to work the joint within what seemed like minutes after the operations, then went into the rehab operation for maybe 7-10 days. That seemed very important to her overall recovery of use of the knee. When the swelling and bruising go down, do you get rehab? A. Concerned Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 05:10:31 2009 Received: (qmail 1505 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 03:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 03:10:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FDBE18245 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2542FE240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1092B1CD48C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3990B1CD488 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so147904fga.8 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.30 with SMTP id s30mr262615hbg.171.1255230622936; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:10:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD13EF4.3060901@chucknorcutt.com> References: <946227.46530.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AD13EF4.3060901@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:10:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c9a9fdfd5a160048 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Printer Update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 05:10:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad14ca7282841234514069 > > Hmmm. I've never seen one and am sorry I mentioned it. However, I am > unable to reconcile your description with that of Vincent Oliver of > photo-i which says, in part... > I think it is a comparison thing. The Canon printers are built quite well and have an air of quality in some areas that the Epsons definitely do not. It's the little things that mean a lot. Even Canon's approach to heads and ink cartridges in the 900/9000 series was unique at the time and highly efficient. Epson's approach was definitely one of "dispose as much ink as possible because that's how we make our money". It wasn't until people started abandoning Epson in droves did they finally address that issue and it's still not fully addressed. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 06:46:47 2009 Received: (qmail 12438 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 04:46:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 04:46:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F767E181CC for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03343E240E2 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D663610003 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E5E3610001 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21089 invoked by uid 503); 11 Oct 2009 04:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 11 Oct 2009 04:46:38 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4AD10CE6.6060103@chucknorcutt.com> <4AD13FBB.4080802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD13FBB.4080802@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:46:37 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01ca4a2d$d1d2fe50$7578faf0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcpKGNZjgH964+F6R8qCxOviefeiYQAE1InQ Subject: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Speedy_recovery_-_was_RE=3A__IMG=3A_Nathan=27?= =?iso-8859-1?q?s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 06:46:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1633734031612113968 -----Original Message----- From: Moose [mailto:olymoose@gmail.com] Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee replaced. My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. >> Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. >> >Yow, that's a shame. I hope it improves soon. >I helped my mom through two separate knee replacements several years >apart. They had her on machines to work the joint within what seemed >like minutes after the operations, then went into the rehab operation >for maybe 7-10 days. That seemed very important to her overall recovery >of use of the knee. >When the swelling and bruising go down, do you get rehab? >A. Concerned Moose -- The rehab seemed to be a very important issue with my mother also. She knew people who hadn't done much rehab and didn't re-gain very much range of movement for their leg. She kept waking up at night from pain but was glad she had it done. The biggest problem she ran into is that she can no longer get on her knees. Getting up from the floor/ground is very difficult. Hope you have a speedy recovery Chuck. Jeff Keller -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 11:54:33 2009 Received: (qmail 9928 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 09:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 09:54:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCF3E181CF for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306DFE240E2 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B20234AC025 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACE634AC024 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so7430306fxm.37 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.122.5 with SMTP id z5mr1895491mum.11.1255254865464; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:54:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD13BAF.5030407@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4ACEE5CB.7090302@sfr.fr> <4ACF38DE.9090203@spokeandsprocket.com> <4ACF55E4.2080408@sfr.fr> <4AD13BAF.5030407@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:54:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ec2bdc42cbd1883 Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Olympus question from new member E3 successor? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 11:54:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1ab59287625368819438 Agree to wait, but it was the E-3. The E-30 was announced 5 november 2008. I would like an E-30 update to E-P1 specs. Regards, Frank 2009/10/11 Chuck Norcutt > The E-30 was announced 16-Oct-07. We're less than a week away from the > 2 year anniversary of that announcement. I'd certainly wait at least > until October was done with. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 12:54:23 2009 Received: (qmail 18743 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 10:54:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 10:54:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECA7E1819F for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07025E240AC for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11B634AC025 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F7734AC024 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (mx.southnet.co.nz [202.37.101.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.58.41] (41.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.41]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CA73DA107 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:54:15 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:54:14 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AD27026.25938.29F2819@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091010-0, 10/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] (OM) Re Chuck's knee operatioin X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 12:54:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1b95f153001136683642 Best wishes for a speedy and good recovery Chuck. I gather that early exercise of the knee joint is vital for future use, so hopefully the excessive swelling below the knee will abate very soon. 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Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 20mm f/3.5 Macro (non-MC) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 13:37:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1c395158951946193717 Hi Dawid, Ken, Chuck, Moose and all, From: Dawid Loubser >I just wanted to comment that I think the 20mm f/3.5 that I received >from Clay is an incredibly early (and, consequently, rare?) version. >It's not multicoated (i.e. no "MC" marking). From: Chuck Norcutt >Without regard to the 20mm in particular, not all MC Zuikos are marked >as MC. The Zooms, Macros and some special lenses didn't follow the x.Zuiko/Zuiko MC/Zuiko markings... The latest scheme can be recognized by the order of focal length and aperture: these late lenses have the focal lenght alone first, and then the aperture (e.g. '24mm 1:2') whereas the older lenses (MC or not) have them reversed, with a 'f=' before focal length (e.g. 1:2 f=24mm) Please note that this late lettering does NOT guarantee the presence of multicoating, although most are -- AFAIK, the 135/3.5 was NEVER multicoated, even when marked 'Zuiko Auto-T 135mm 1:3.5'. Of course, when a lens is marked MC, it _is_ multicoated. From: Dawid Loubser >My OM-1 manual, which dates from 1974 or so (i.e. it pre-dates the >existence of the 21/2.0 and 50/1.2 lenses) already refers to the >20/3.5 "MC" Macro (along with the 80/4.0 MC macro, also manual >diaphragm) lenses. So - this means that only from about 1972 - 1974 >were these very very early single-coated Macro lenses made? Can't say about this, I've never seen 'in person' those macro lenses. Some lenses were MC from the start, like the fast wides -- except the 21/2, introduced later. The 50/1.2 (always MC, marked or not) appeared much later than the early G.Zuiko 55/1.2 -- always single coated, if I'm not mistaken. From: Dawid Loubser >Quite special indeed... I also love single-coated lenses for B&W work, >and I must say, the quality of the 20/3.5 (on all aspects of image >quality) is stupendously good, Some lenses are great even in single-coated version -- even in flare resistance. The unrelated 28/3.5 comes to my mind, I have used it successfully in either B&W, colour film or digital. OTOH, the 135/3.5 would definitely improve from multicoating... but never had it :-( >as long as you use the lens >at relatively wide apertures. Have not done scientific testing, but >from images I actually get the impression that wide open it's already >at peak performance. From: Moose >The diffraction mavens have previously opined that the 20/3.5 is indeed >already slightly diffraction limited at f3.5 and gets progressively >softer as it is stopped down. As I recall, speculation was that the >20/2 replaced the f3.5 in part to avoid diffraction limiting, but >only wide open. That makes a lot of sense. As a funny note, the older 20/3.5 Macro is like a reversed Tessar (4 elements, 3 groups => highly flare resistant), wheras the later 20/2 is a classic Planar/double-Gauss design (6 elements, 4 groups) From: Dawid Loubser >Oh, and another question - what do you guys do to tame vibrations from >an OM-1 when using a lens like this for natural-light work? (i.e. >shutter speeds anything from 0.5 to 20 seconds) ? I thought my >old Linhof tripod was reasonably solid, but even with mirror lockup, >at these high magnifications the image is jumping all over the show, >almost impossible. Thus, am generally using flash for the moment. From: Ken Norton >The short answer is to NOT use the OM-1. The OM-1 has that little >issue with the aperture stop-down mechanism that shakes the camera >(even with mirror lockup) like it's coming off of a high. From: Dawid Loubser >That really sucks, I love my OM-1n, but I am happy to perhaps relegate >all Macro shooting to the OM-2n (which, I must admit, does appear to >be a lot smoother). Shouldn't be that way. However, I have the impression that the oldest OM-1 (pre-MD) and OM-2 (older, uneven mettering pattern) feel smoother than later OM-1 and OM-2, including the -n series... >Hmm - my OM-1n must have bad internal bumpers then, because it really >does vibrate a bit more than the OM-2n. Most likely. The foam at the mirror isn't really intended for light sealing, but mostly for damping. From: Ken Norton >An OM-2, 3 or 4 series body (even the OM-2000) will be much smoother in >this circumstance. I don't think a 2/2n would make things better. (Nearly) all OM cameras suffer from the aperture issue, but some models have a workaround... From: Chuck Norcutt >An OM-2S, OM-4x or OM-2000 will pre-fire the mirror and stop down >mechanism when used with the selftimer. ...this is it. The OM-3 doesn't have a self timer, so I'm afraid it won't help -- I've never handled one, though. >The mirror and stop down will >fire after about 2 seconds thus giving about 8 seconds for the >vibrations to damp down before the shutter fires. Never seen that behaviour... mine do pre-fire both mirror and aperture when pressing the release button, so they have the full 10? seconds for the vibration to extingish. >Actually, I'm not >100% sure the 2S also pre-fires the aperture along with the mirror but >I'm not at home to check it out. But the stop down mechanism is the >major vibration culprit so be sure to check. Yes, it does prefire. BTW, the 2S and the PC/40 have another measure against vibration: the aperture mechanism bears a delayed action (because of Program capabilities) which smoothens things quite a bit. Wonderbricks and other 'modern' cameras have no springs at all, everything is motor driven. They _are_ much smoother, but at the cost of an increased shutter lag -- and I'm not talking about AF, I discarded the (manual focus) Contax Aria because of this. From: Moose >Others have already weighed in with excellent advice. To make it >perfectly clear, an OM-2 or OM-2n is no improvement on the OM-1(n) for >vibration. Amen to that. As already said, I don't think the OM-3 is any better, although the added inertia of the secondary mirror _may_ improve things a little bit... >You must go to an OM-2s (why it's called an OM-2_ is a >mystery to me), I agree, I think something like 'OM-4 Lite' should have been much more appropriate... >OM-4 series, OMPC (OM-40) or OM2000 body and use the >self timer to pre-fire mirror and aperture to reduce camera induced >vibration. Quite effective, indeed. From: Dawid Loubser >But as I said, my main issue is vibration not from the mirror, but >when the shutter opens (and thus, the notorious aperture stop-down >mechanism). Even when the mirror and aperture pre-fire, the opening shutter does induce a bit of vibration... From: Chuck Norcutt >Other means of vibration reduction is to place your hand heavily on the >camera during exposure or use a bean or shot bag. From: Moose >Also, a bag filled with lead shot (coated for your health) will be more >effective than light things like lentils, rice, etc. When used on a >tripod mounted, i.e. horizontal, camera, be sure to have it resting on >both body and lens. Always recommended for high resolution and/or high magnification work -- ESSENTIAL with some lenses (e.g. 200/4) From: Dawid Loubser >It is amazing how well a human being damps vibrations, no? The OM-1 is >the only camera I've used with which I can get tack sharp 1/15s >exposures hand-held (say, with a 24mm lens) but which absolutely sucks >on a tripod for similar exposure durations. Have you ever tried rangefinders? From: Ken Norton >Long answer is to use a LONGER shutter speed. As a general rule, you >should avoid 1/4 to 1/30 second with all OM bodies, but especially >the OM-1. When you use a longer shutter speed than 1/4 second, the >percentage of the exposure that is affected by vibration is greatly >reduced. With a 2-second exposure, for example, you will have no >shutter-vibration blurring. There is the well-known 'hat' method -- put a black cardboard in front of the lens, release shutter, wait several seconds for the vibration to disappear, and _start_ actual exposure by lifting the black cardboard. Commonly used in astrophotography, it seems however tougher to implement for macro, where things are much closer... From: Dawid Loubser >Anyway, my plan B is to potentially think of building a leaf shutter >(like from an old busted Mamiya RB lens, those shutters induce an >effectively zero moment of inertia to the system when they fire) in >between the lens, bellows, and camera somewhere. That might be an >all-round better solution, I have found leaf shutters to be much >superior for delicate Macro work Seems quite interesting, but rather difficult... please let us know if you experiment about this! >For example, this shot I posted previously was with the 20/3.5 with >natural light, ~4 seconds exposure at f/16 (massively diffaction >limited, but needed the DOF). >It came out fine with the OM-2n (auto tube + bellows), not sure that >my OM-1 would have settled down enough by then. < http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/236/9/d/Seedling_by_philosomatographer.jpg > Nice result anayway! Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 14:43:11 2009 Received: (qmail 350 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 12:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 12:43:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E18E181B1 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A33E240AC for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FD019E2A6 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:43:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD70019E293 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20521 invoked by uid 504); 11 Oct 2009 12:43:01 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 091010-0, 10/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?IMG=3A_Nathan=27s_PAW_39=3A_=A1A_la_bici!?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Oct 11 14:43:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4ad1d2df173541879814018 Maybe good advice if I could follow it. Oxycontin (per se) hasn't been on the meds menu although it's main ingredient (oxycodone) is the same as Percocet's. I was on morphine post-surgery and then Percocet in the hospital and now on hydrocodone 10-325 at home. Turns out the morphine was making me nauseous and the Percocet was a blessing... better pain control without the nausea... but plenty of other side effects. No appetite and constant dry mouth. I don't know the dosage of Percocet, only that I was being given 2 tablets every 3 hours (if I asked for them, and I did). The hydrocodone is only a single tablet every 4 hours. It's clearly not as effective. I asked if more Percocet was possible and the doc said "No, I want you to have a working liver afterwards". I think the pain will reside when the swelling resides and it's not hard to tell where that comes from. I note that, despite eating almost nothing in the hospital (no appetite) and having good (suppository assisted) outgo on the day of discharge (pun not intended) I managed to gain 12 pounds over the 4 days I was in the hospital. Clearly, the weight is water and, from looking at my leg, it's easy to tell where it's being stored. Fortunately, I lost 3 pounds between my first two weighings at home. If I can continue to lose anywhere near that much water weight in the days ahead I should be in much better shape very soon. I discontinued coumadin on leaving the hospital on Friday and am to add two aspirin/day starting today (Sunday) for a continued blood thinning effect. Perhaps the anti-inflammatory effect of the aspirin will also help reduce the swelling. As it is I can only spend about 20 minutes at the computer before I have to leave and elevate my leg to hold the swelling down. That's a real pain but at least keeps me moving.. on my walker. :-) Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > They do indeed. You didn't go to rehab? > As a nurse said to me - let the pain chase the meds - not vice versa. > Oxycontin works. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 11/10/2009, at 9:38 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I enjoyed them but am just too worn out to comment tonight. I am home >> after only 4 days in the hospital but having had only one knee >> replaced. >> My right leg from the knee down is very grossly swollen and bruised. >> Pain and tiredness make it difficult to concentrate. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Oct 11 15:22:45 2009 Received: (qmail 5307 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2009 13:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Oct 2009 13:22:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AB