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Subject: [OM] Re: OT Probably controversial
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:41:27 -0800
Johann,

Uhhh........ Conspiracy theory, your saying I said Apollo never got to the
moon and that explosives were planted in the WTC as it was being
constructed? Where did you get that?

So, I take it, you have worked within the confines of the US government or
have worked under those who were allowed to post the truth of THEIR
findings, instead of what they were asked to find in their research? Got
some links, anything that is proof that isn't written by the government
agencies themselves?

Sorry guy, been there done that, and so have several of my University
teachers and PhD and Doctorial close friends. If you want work from the
government or from Big Pharma, you best come up with what they want, not
what ALL the data may point to, if it is different than the objective you
were given to prove in the first place.

My Environmental studies professor had been in charge of the BLM of 4
corners when Regan took office. Regan then asked how much of that could be
logged as the logging industry had been promised some logging for their
campaign support moneys.

McLean responded, 4 trees. The forest had just recovered from the logging
nearly 100 years earlier and was settling into the beginnings of maturity,
any logging would set it back 100 years.

The pressure was put heavily upon him then he was let go and replaced by his
junior, who did the same thing, so #3 man had the job and the same thing
came happened, so Regan's administration appointed a man with 4 months of
environmental training who wanted to get a career in politics, and they
logged. As it now site, if left alone, the forest will recover somewhere
around 2150, as more damage was done this time than the first clear cut...
er excuse me, they called that a controlled logging operation.

Yeah, all actions are controlled, clear cutting or even the most careful
harvesting, just depends on what you are managing it for.

So Johann, your turn, please show proof that no government controls or tells
it's researchers what they need to find if they want to retain their jobs. I
have the distinct feeling you added that Apollo and explosive stuff just as
a diversionary tactic rather than supply any data that could be check up on.

Any doctors out there that made their college money doing research for
government agencies? My Doctor friends who did has passed on, or he'd love
to tell you the story of how and why he left the profession. 

I can't believe that all researchers are in this bind, but I have run into
so many over the years it is rather scary, and the recent news reports of
the last decade says so are much more recent than what I have heard over the
last 40 years.

-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Johann Thorsson
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:55 AM
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: OT Probably controversial


You hear this often but the statement is rarely backed up with hard facts.
In most cases these are just unfounded speculations or conspiracy theories.
You know that Apollo never got to the Moon and that "they" planted
explosives in WTC during its construction?

J

> Scientists, all except those on the Government dole, that is, their lively
> hood depends on giving the results they are paid to get, all show global
> warming... these government scientist have gone as far as saying that
there
> is no such thing as global warming, but won't respond about thousand year
> old ice shelves breaking off and falling into the sea.
>
> It is a good game, only respond to the stuff you can ridicule and give no
> facts that can be verified or debunked.


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