Oh, I think I understand non-destructive editing. It's what ACR does
(in that the raw file is not modified) and I like that just fine.
Having even more would be fine too except that I'm not sure what
Lightroom could do for me beyond that. AFAIK, beyond cropping, sizing
and sharpening for print or web display Lightroom doesn't do any of the
additional editing I do that requires masks and layers. Non-destructive
cropping, sizing and sharpening would certainly save space but not time
and I actually don't print or display many images so even space is not a
major consideration. I forgot the space occupied by the converted raw
files but even that's trivial in an age of terabyte size drives. My
computer is relatively slow but it can read a converted raw file many,
many times faster than it can re-convert a raw file.
Chuck Norcutt
On 3/24/2012 1:38 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Jez, give it up. The concepts of non-destructive editing and the file
> handling of Lightroom (or rather, the lack thereof) are just too
> innovative for some people. I think LR is the greatest piece of photo
> processing software ever invented, but I recognize that in other
> areas I am set in my ways and have a similar attitude to that shown
> by Chuck and Jim.
>
> Cheers, Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>
> YNWA
>
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
>
>> Nope - don't understand. Unless this was an earlier version - pre
>> v3.
>>
>> My folders are "yyyy-mm-dd eventname" And the files are
>> "DSC-1234.nef" and .jpg. They always have been and they still are.
>> Also the new ones!
>>
>> Do you wanna see a screenshot of how my 'catalog' looks?! Jez
>>
>> On 24/03/2012, Jim Nichols<jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> I use a similar file structure. I had the same reservations
>>> about Lightroom and its efforts to change my way of doing
>>> business. I tried it, and deleted it.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From:
>>> "Chuck Norcutt"<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Olympus
>>> Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday,
>>> March 24, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [OM] How'd they do that?
>>>
>>>
>>>> My existing file structure consisting of folders named:
>>>> yyyy-mm-dd - long, descriptive event or subject name suits me
>>>> just fine. I've been using it for about 10 years and have no
>>>> desire or need for something else.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2012 2:13 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
>>>>> What is it about the 'catalog' that irritates you?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/03/2012, Chuck Norcutt<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote: But that means I have to tackle Lightroom and its
>>>>> silly
>>>>>> requirement that I use its catalog system which I do not
>>>>>> want to do. It's why I own Lightroom but don't use it. It
>>>>>> would be nice to have an integrated solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/15/2012 10:28 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks. My PSE is a long expired trial version. I don't
>>>>>>> think PS does slide shows but Lightroom probably does.
>>>>>>> I'll have to check that and whatever other imaging
>>>>>>> related software I have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/15/2012 9:54 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
>>>>>>>> IIRC even Photoshop Elements does it (with music...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15 March 2012 14:48, Chuck
>>>>>>>> Norcutt<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The other day I saw (briefly) a slide show playing
>>>>>>>>> off a DVD directly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to a TV projector with no intervening computer. The
>>>>>>>>> show was in the Ken Burns style with slowly changing
>>>>>>>>> images and zooming in/out and panning back and forth
>>>>>>>>> on each image during its play time. Somebody here (
>>>>>>>>> don't know who) must have made it since the photos
>>>>>>>>> were of a local event no more than a couple days
>>>>>>>>> old.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to produce slide shows also that
>>>>>>>>> run off a DVD with no intervening computer required.
>>>>>>>>> A number of the elderly folks here either don't have
>>>>>>>>> a computer or, even if they do, don't know how to
>>>>>>>>> use it other than for a few limited things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Ken Burns style is OK but I'm really just
>>>>>>>>> interested in software that can get still images into
>>>>>>>>> video format and write it to a DVD. Most folks here
>>>>>>>>> do have a DVD player and know how to use it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone know what's available?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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