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From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:45:55 -0300
Read here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/biggest-house-in-america-david-siegel_n_1677741.html

and in particular the last paragraph !

David Siegal's 90,000 square foot home was borne out of a giant Ponzi 
scheme !

jh


On 21/10/2012 5:20 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
> Not so much subsistence as free from the attachment to materialism. There's a 
> line in Lord of the Rings that struck me the first time I read it. It's 
> Galadriel talking to Gimli the Dwarf. She says words to the effect that much 
> gold would pass through his hands, but that it would not hold dominion over 
> him.
>
> I don't advocate wasteful lifestyles either, such as the time share 
> billionaire in Florida who's building the largest house in America while 
> telling his employees that if President Obama is reelected, he may have to 
> downsize the company. Who needs the biggest house in America? That's all ego. 
> In our country he may have every right to spend his money that way, but I 
> believe he also has a moral responsibility not to. He may be free to build 
> his house, but if he were truly free, he wouldn't have to.
>
> My plumber put it another way: Want what you have.
>
> Fairly smart piece of advice.
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>
>> I don't think they mean the same thing. You can feel unattached to the food 
>> you eat, but none of us are independent of food.
>>
>> Did you mean "don't care" or did you mean "don't need?"
>>
>> Bill Gates may claim to be "unattached" to his material goods. A tribe of 
>> indigenous natives may well be independent of them.
>>
>> My interpretation was that you were advocating a subsistence life-style!
>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>>>
>>>> But this one goes in my quotes database, Bob: "freedom is a state of being 
>>>> independent of material goods."
>>
>

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