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Re: [OM] E-M5 iii + lens

Subject: Re: [OM] E-M5 iii + lens
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 02:56:39 -0700
On 6/22/2020 6:48 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
Dr. P. Shaw Moose wrote:
I can see why you and others would feel that way. In practice, I don't care 
about EVF differences and the G9 is a lot
bigger and heavier. I also object in principle to the top panel LCD. All it 
does is add size, weight and cramp the
functional things on the top plate. Everything I need to know is in the VF and 
on the back screen. I would never, ever
use it.
I love the top LCD. The only camera that I have in my harem that
doesn't "need" it is the DMC-L1 as most everything that's on the
information display is shown in real dials and levers. Honestly, it
doesn't have to be very large, and it doesn't need to show 50 thousand
fields of information. I really don't care about the static
information--the stuff that never really changes, but I want my
Aperture, Shutter, ISO, Exposure Comp, Battery and shots remaining to
ALWAYS be available. I think the lowly E-1 struck one of the best
balances, and the Minolta A1's LCD was easily the best design for a
compact size display. The E-3 has a screen the size of a football
field. Olympus definitely jumped the shark. Canon's are pretty good,
but strangely not very readable for my eyes.

All fine, and useful, for DSLRs. Unnecessary for mirrorless.

The top LCD is visible in any light, can be read at a downward glance
without clueing others in that you are looking at the camera and
making adjustments (tell-tales that make people nervous).

As is the LCD, tilted up - AND - you can frame and shoot from that non-threatening position, like a TLR, but without subject reversal (and brighter, clearer, etc.).

But I do
like to know at a glance my basic settings that I can change and
manipulate with the controls at a look down glance instead of having
to turn the camera away from me and adjust things on the top and back.

As above, I tilt the screen up, and it's all there, and visible even in the 
dark.

To do the same thing with any other digital camera means that you are
rotating the camera, pressing buttons, pulling up your sunglasses,
etc.

You have DSLR disease. :-)

When one carries two cameras around the neck, size and weight matter.
Yes, definitely. I am trying to minimize that as much as possible.
When doing the <500 Yards thing, I have multiple camera systems with
me, but otherwise try to keep things down to two. When hiking, just
one. When shooting weddings and events, it's two. But with two, I'm
DEEP into Ibuprofen-land by hour four. By hour seven, I'm taking
pictures with my cellphone like everyone else.


OH, Pshaw! The GX9s are perfectly well made. Like the other digicams I've had, 
they will be obsoleted before failing.
I'm not a war zone PJ.
I didn't give the GX9 a chance as that wasn't the form-factor I was
looking for, but the G9 is a brilliant piece of kit. As to war zone,
well, that's a subject unto itself. But what I found with the G9 is a
camera that encourages "risky behavior". The controls fall to hand
very well. The ergonomics are such that the controls you NEED to use
are all very tactile and fall directly to hand. The secondary controls
and buttons that aren't directly related to taking the picture are not
in the way. For the most part, that is. No camera is perfect, but the
G9 is certainly one of the best around.

I feel the same way about the GX9. How nice of Panny to make custom models for 
each of us!


Yeah, Wayne mentioned that the E-M1 III isn't much smaller/lighter than an A7. 
That's my experience, too. It's the lenses that make the difference.
Absolutely. That's one reason why I so like the GX85 and E-400 kits.
Two lenses, one body, easy to carry anywhere and be perfectly equipped
for the 90% rule. But when it comes to the remaining 10%, give me
bigger sensors, bigger lenses or bigger bodies with more/better
features.


I've been doing lots of conversion and editing of 1" (Panny & Sony), 4/3" (16 
MP Oly and 20 MP Panny) and FF Sony image
files lately. There just isn't a difference between 4/3 and FF in quality. And the 
higher end, lenses for µ4/3 are every
bit serious.
I'm NOT in agreement with you there. While the lens quality is such
that there is essentially no reason to select one format over another,
the sensor DR and general tonal response profile does make a
difference. We may not see the difference when shooting in optimal
lighting conditions or with standardized "normal" processing. But for
those of us who dial every amplifier up to "11", we can run smack into
the wall of what the camera is capable of.

Ah well, we'll have to disagree, agreed or not. I just don't see those differences between GX9 and A7 II. In fact, it's not uncommon for me not to remember until I stop to think about it, which files I'm working with.

Then again, we're working with different tools and have different tastes. In LR, I do no more than I used to do in ACR, WB, recover highlights and shadows and roughly set the midpoint. Then into PS, where Topaz Denoise AI is almost always the first thing done. And I'm happy to move the curve around.


Defined as taking serious quality photos, I'm carrying serious cameras and lenses, and they 
are µ4/3. It's not as though I'm in a corner, holding my hands over my ears, yelling 
"nyah, nyah, nyah", so I can't hear about FF. I have, and have been using, an A7 II.
The A7 II is a lovely picture-taking camera, but sheeze is that buffer small!

Never run into that. I've only ever used the A7s around home, in relatively slow, low key ways. There's no focus bracketing and no lens long enough for things like birds and insects, so no burst mode shots. I've yet to use it in the field, although that will change with the Voightländer 10/5.6. Still, that's not a buffer buster lens.

Faster cards may help, too. When I got really fast cards for the E-M5 IIs, the buffer got a LOT better. Shooting deep stacks never ran out, as they had before. If you aren't using newer cards, try a U1/V30.

Buffered Moose

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