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Re: [OM] How do I use chemical process print paper profiles inPhotoShop?

Subject: Re: [OM] How do I use chemical process print paper profiles inPhotoShop?
From: "Sue Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:38:00 -0600
You are a glutton for punishment, if you are doing wet process color prints 
without a machine. To do good color prints, you need a well regulated 
process, with regularly replenished tanks, and with regular use of control 
strips, read and tracked  with the aid of a densitometer.

I can't imagine how a profile is used, except with laser printers and the 
like. There are a variety of printers that expose to photo paper, from mini 
labs to big laser printers. There were even printers that used crt's to 
expose the paper, and did a really good job. You cant afford one of these 
for just yourself. A local lab had a big printer that used real lasers. they 
put a lot of money in it, and discovered that they needed it to run three 
shifts to break even. They went broke, and a lot of us picked over the 
bones.

I've used Adorama and got some really good prints cheap. I let them do final 
corrections.

Bill Pearce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus mail list" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [OM] How do I use chemical process print paper profiles 
inPhotoShop?


>I recently ordered some 6x9, 8x12 and 10x15 prints from Adorama.  I
> ordered from Adorama since they were offering some attractive prices.  I
> also noticed that they were offering profiles for the papers they use.
> I was particulary interested in the Kodak Endura Luster and Silk papers.
>  Previously I've only ordered from Miller's Lab or Mpix who manage to
> produce proper color from my sRGB files regardless of the paper.
>
> I downloaded all of Adorama's profiles without giving much thought to
> how they are to be used.  But when it came time to prepare my order I
> realized I didn't know how I was supposed to use them in PhotoShop.  I
> have experience in using custom profiles for my own printer/paper/ink
> combinations where the profile is essentially an output filter between
> PhotoShop and my specific printer.  I don't alter the image from what I
> see on my screen but simply tell PhotoShop to manage the output to the
> printer using a specific profile.
>
> But since I'm not outputting to a printer I suddenly realized that I
> couldn't simply view in sRGB on my calibrated monitor yet somehow
> magically produce a custom output form for a specific Kodak paper.
>
> So, how is this done?  Do I need to preview the monitor image using the
> output profile for the paper in question rather than my standard sRGB?
> Do I need to tweak the colors I see on screen as filtered through the
> paper profile until they look to my eye like the original sRGB profile?
>  Or do I need to generate an output file that is filtered through the
> paper profile in a manner similar to generating the output data that
> goes to my inkjet printer?  I'm mystified and not a little startled that
> I don't know how to do this.
>
> Anyhow, I ordered my prints from Adorama and got a good price and some
> nice looking prints... except for the fact that they have a very slight
> greenish cast.  My wife didn't even notice the green cast so the prints
> are perfectly usable but I assume that, had I used the proper paper
> profile that the green cast wouldn't be there.
>
> ps:  What's different between Miller's/Mpix and Adorama?  Why doesn't
> Adorama say just send us sRGB and we'll adjust the color through our
> profiles based on your paper selection?
>
> A more ignorant the I thought
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
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