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Subject: Re: [OM] How to take proper product pics outside (WB?)
From: Charles Geilfuss <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:56:35 -0400
Olafo,
  I haven't been following this thread closely so I may have missed it. Just
what is the item in the photo? I don't recognize it at all.

Charlie

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Olaf Greve <ogreve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Chuck and others,
>
> Good news!
> Last Friday the swivel heads came in, and yesterday the brolly boxes
> arrived. :)
>
> Spare time seems to be "sparse time", so I've only had about 15
> minutes to play with the set-up (though I hope to get around to it
> some more over the weekend).
>
> There were a few unforeseen issues in the set-up, for which I'll have
> to figure out a solution:
>
> 1) I mounted the brolly boxes on the swivel heads with the flashes; no
> problem. But... the umbrellas are wide and the tripod legs are
> preventing the umbrellas from being angled at some 45 degrees from
> above. I may figure out an easy way around this, but I certainly
> welcome suggestions.
> Either way: this issue caused the umbrellas (and flashes) to be
> shooting perpendicularly from the table top (i.e. from the side of the
> subject, but then positioned higher than the subject, so it's not from
> the very side).
>
> 2) The daylight was just starting to fade and the location where I was
> taking the pictures was relatively dark. This caused great
> difficulties for the Auto Focus to do its work. The built in flash
> cannot pop up, as the flash shoe cable (T-cord) blocks it. I guess I
> could use an external (small) lamp to make focussing easier, but then
> I'd be throwing incandescent light into the mix. I tried manual
> focussing but that's pretty tough too. I guess I need to shoot during
> the daytime then...
>
> Then, the set-up was:
> E-500 + 14-45 F3.5-5.6, Manual, 1/160 @ f5.6, ISO 100, two T20s, one
> to the left, one to the right of the subject, both firing into the
> brolly boxes, coming straight from the side. Distance from flash to
> diffuser (i.e. round part of the umbrella) +/- 20 cm, distance of
> diffuser to subject +/- 25 cm.
>
> The results are pretty pleasing, but not perfect. If you consider this
> shot (full size, unedited):
> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718.JPG
>
> The WB was not yet set properly; in reality, the backdrop is plain
> white.
>
> Now, my two main issues with the pictures are:
> 1) Some shadows still occur. This was surprising to me. Perhaps the
> high, perpendicular, position of the flashes relative to the subject,
> caused that? Is this something that can easily be improved (reflector?
> 45 degree angles from above? something else?)
> 2) Another unexpected issue are the two 'gleam' lines running over the
> length of the subject.
>
> To illustrate this, consider:
> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718_with_comments.jpg
>
> Could it perhaps be that the light was not diffuse enough?
>
> Any ideas how I can improve this?
>
> Cheers,
> Olafo
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