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Subject: [OM] Re: saturation problems (was Airshow photos - E-1 and C-60)
From: alfredo pagliano <alfredo_pag@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:35:41 +0200
Sorry, when I wrote You can use Colorsync to compare color profiles, I 
was in a Hurry, I did mean: color spaces.

Apologies.

Alfredo

On Aug 30, 2005, at 8:27 AM, alfredo pagliano wrote:

>
> It does seem to me You have problems with color profiles.
>
> What color profile was embedded in your image from the camera?
>
> sRGB or RGB?
>
> Did You process RAW or use the Jpeg straight from the camera?
>
> If, like me You use a Mac, You should be aware that the Colorsync
> engine manages the appareance of even the images displayed in Safari.
>
> This does mean the image looks different to You than on a PC without
> colour management or simply another browse, to the best of my knowledge
> Safari is still the only browser supporting color profiles, so, You can
> download Firefox, or Camino, and display the image on this browser to
> see if it does diplay differently, You can find them at:
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/
>
> RapidWeaver is a great little program, and is not to blame for this.
>
> There are two ways to get rid of this, first add code on Your page
> telling the browser not to use the embedded color profile, of simply be
> sure to turn off Photoshop color management, and save whitout embedded
> color profile, by unchecking the flag in the save as dialog.
>
> Be aware that even in this case, having the mac by default different
> color temperatures and monitor gamma from a PC, the images will look
> brighter on Your screen than on a PC.
>
> Simply cannot understand why some people keep using PCs... ;-)
>
> To get an idea, if You use safari, please check the difference:
>
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=8638
>
> this is an image I posted on a site, since the site engine
> automatically resized it, the image did loose the embedded color
> profile,
> click on the image to see it real size, and see how hues and saturation
> change.
>
> If You have Firefox, open the link and click on the image: colour and
> saturation will not change.
>
> If You want to know more, launch the Colorsync Utility, You can find it
> in Applications\Utilities, or simply spotlight the words, and launch
> the application help, if You haven't done this before, You simply will
> be amazed from the power concealed under the bonnet of OS X, You can
> even use it to compare color profiles!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> BTW, saturation may sure not be good for skin tones, but I really like
> it when it comes to airplanes and sky, I like these shots very much.
>
> Alfredo
>
> On Aug 30, 2005, at 7:50 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Gary.  The photos on the web have turned out much more
>> saturated than they were in PS.  The software for making a website
>> (RapidWeaver from realmacsoftware) seems to have changed the curves
>> or something.  Diana Britten, for instance, is pretty suntanned, but
>> not ruddy!.
>>
>> The camouflaged AN-2 is based at Little Gransden and the owner (Mark
>> Jefferies, an aerobatic ace) has tarted it out inside with Connolly
>> leather etc ... as executive transport.  But it uses 200l/hr in the
>> cruise, so the sums might not be too good...
>>
>> The AN-2s took off in formation and did a formation display for a few
>> minutes!  That was an even stranger sight...
>>
>> Chris
>> ~~ >-)-
>> C M I Barker
>> Cambridgeshire, Great Britain.
>> +44 (0)7092 251126
>> www.threeshoes.co.uk
>> homepage.mac.com/zuiko
>>
>>
>> On 30 Aug 2005, at 00:34, Gary Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a beautiful day for an airshow, Chris. And a
>>> Staggerwing! A 195
>>> is nice but a Staggerwing is the most beautiful civil machine of
>>> that era.
>>>
>>> Isn't the AN-2 bizarre to watch in the air? - huge, ugly, and
>>> incredibly
>>> slow. One floated over my office last week turning base for Grand
>>> Prairie.
>>> It seemed to take forever to get far enough to turn final. Very
>>> useful,
>>> though. Carries lots of chickens or skydivers.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>
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