Moose, thanks for sharing, I don't use Vuescan too much, only in the case
NikonScan give far from normal results. With NikonScan most of the time I
only need a small adjustment (but it never right with straight scan).
Vuescan always gives low contrast picture but adjustment is not that
difficult too.
Of course I'm not going to make product shoot so absolute color accuracy is
not important to me, in case I need I prefer to use my DC and include a grey
chart in my shot for post adjustment. But the IT8 is very interesting
though, it provide the possibility to reduce the post adjustment work to
zero.
I'm a bit hesitate to use calibration target on my E-1, same reason as you
mentioned about the slide character, once calibrated its character will be
override. Having used both E-1 and 10D I'm pretty sure there are very
different calibration between them, which could be designed to suit
different people's preference. And of course I like the color and tone of my
E-1 much more :-)
C.H.Ling
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> C.H.Ling wrote:
>
>>Moose, your experiment with the IT8 from Wolf Faust is very interesting. I
>>had consider the "camera" target from them too but I seldom shoot negative
>>these years so I have not buy one yet. Recently I consider to go back to
>>use
>>more negative as Neat Image can solve my concern on the film grain and
>>negative has much wider latude.
>>
> Yes, that's what I am doing, although I am still inexpert at grain
> reduction. It seems to work very well with some combinations of film
> grain and subject. With others, it can decrease apparent sharpness. I am
> still a beginner and have much to learn there.
>
>>I have no experience on the IT8 workflow but it seems that the film will
>>no
>>longer affect the color accuracy, it means no matter you use Fuji Superia
>>400 or Kodak 160NC since it will be corrected anyway (at least under
>>daylight), is that true?
>>
> That is the idea as I understand it. The instructions even say to use
> film profiles with slide film when you want neutral color and to avoid
> the profile when you wnat the particular characteristics of a slide film
> to go through to the scanned image. I have little practical experience
> yet, as I've only done a profile for one film, so I can't yet say that
> the results from two or more very different films come out the same in
> color balance, contrast, etc.
>
> I'm excited about it because using the profile resulted in scans that
> need much less adjustment in post processing. The workflow is really
> simpler with less post-processing. I just select the film profile in
> Vuescan and it is used in processing the scan(s). My usual practice is
> to first scan all the images on a roll to RAW files, without any other
> output. This is much quicker and gets the film handling part out of the
> way. I then set Vuescan to scan from the RAW files automatically, using
> the film profile, where I have one, into reduced resolution JPEGs and
> full size TIFFs. This can take some time, but it doesn't matter, as it
> can run while I do other things and requires nothing from me while
> running. Since the profile is not applied in creating the RAW files, one
> may later go back and rescan with different parameters, profile, etc.
> from the RAW file(s).
>
> Another consideration here is scanner profiling. Where all scanning is
> from one scanner and the results are satisfactory, scanner profiling
> doesn't seem necessary, as it is, in effect, includeed in the film
> profile. But if using two or more sources and/or working with others,
> scanner profiling would add to the consistency of color. One may also
> profile printers by scanning an IT8 target on a profiled scanner,
> printing it on the target printer, then scanning the printer output for
> profile building. So Vuescan can fully color manage everything but the
> monitor. Last time I looked, it also won't profile digital cameras.
> Maybe with a profiled camera, one could photograph the monitor and
> profile it??
>
> Moose
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