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Re: [OM] The Adobe tax - Chris & Jez

Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax - Chris & Jez
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 16:34:40 -0400
Except for printing what you're doing sounds like ACR is doing all the work and could be done equally as well using ACR in PS. One possible exception is output sharpening for printing vs capture sharpening. Capture sharpening is a function of ACR but AFAIK, output sharpening is not. In PS it needs to be done in PS instead of ACR.

I think it was Bob who fairly recently praised LR print function. PS will print but it's fairly primitive. You need to do resizing yourself along with output sharpening before sending it to the printer... basically the same that you'd do if you were sending it out to a commercial print maker and wanted sizing and sharpening done right. PS can do color control but I don't bother. To keep life simple I only use the printer manufacturer's inks and papers and then tell PS to let the printer do the color control. If I send output to a commercial print maker I adjust size and resolution to the printmaker's standard and also add the bleed to the print size. I sharpen for output and then tell the printmaker to print exactly as is at the indicated size... don't mess with anything... no color correction, no sharpening, no nothing.

Chuck Norcutt


On 7/4/2014 2:43 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
Sorry, not a PS user.
I have an old version of PSE (v8) which I use in extremis. The only times
I've used it recently were to cut/paste a background and assemble
panoramas.
I'm in the Nathan camp of not doing much digitally that couldn't have been
done wet.  And LR can do pretty much all I need.  I don't use anything else
but LR for cropping/rotation/perspective, white balance, levels/curves,
noise reduction, sharpening, and lens corrections.
And as mentioned I find the Print module (and especially the presets) to be
good.  (I have two printers connected - general purpose print/scan/copy and
photo-quality - and I never had a program before which would remember the
correct printer (not the windows default one) and all the associated
settings, saved in various presets.)
Jez


On 4 July 2014 19:04, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So I ask the two of you, what do you think that you can do in the LR
develop module that you might not be able to do in PS/Bridge?

Chuck Norcutt

On 7/4/2014 1:47 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote:

In recent times I've only used the wimpy ACR in Elements so I can't
compare
to PS/Bridge, but I love what I can do in the Develop module in LR.  And
the Print module is excellent.


On 4 July 2014 18:43, Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  I hope that  you're wrong, Chuck.  For all my antipathy towards LR, the
Develop pane, as with Aperture's equivalent, should be far more useful
than
ACR.

Chris

On 4 Jul 14, at 18:15, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


I will, of course, be interested to see if the "develop" process offers

any advantage over ACR in PS but suspect the answer is no.

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