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Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety and back-ups
From: Doug <doug9345@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:34:26 -0500
On Sunday, December 21, 2008 18:53, John Hudson wrote:

This became know as the Gimli Glider. The plane was retired at the beginning 
of this year. I first read the story a number of years ago in a book I bought 
for $.10. Yes ten cents. It's a very interesting read.

>Like the Air Canada pilot who oversaw the
> fuelling of his 757 or 767 in Montreal and then found himself gliding the
> plane down from 35,000 feet out of power over Manitoba to land at some
> deserted WW2 airfield. His only saving grace was that he had earned a
> glider pilot's licence in the Air Cadets was back. Mr 757/767 Pilot
> misguaged the fuelling in liters and not in gallons. I recall that Mr
> 757/767 got fired, lost his pension, got sued and probably got nothing
> betting than flying a rubber-band-wind-up-the-propeller crop duster plane.
> Sad, but incompetent.
>
> jh
As to the outcome;

"Air Canada at first laid the blame for the accident on Captain Pearson, First 
Officer Quintal and two mechanics, but public opinion caused the Canadian 
government to convene a Board of Inquiry to launch a year-long inquiry about 
all the circumstances.
No punitive action resulted and blame for the accident was distributed among 
numerous individuals and organizations. 
     The Diploma for Outstanding Airmanship, first awarded in 1985 by the 
world acclaimed Fédération Aéronautique Internationale, is conferred on only 
two pilots in the world each year. Captain Robert O. Pearson and First 
Officer Maurice Quintal were the first recipients."
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Smith" <proud_texan63@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety
> and back-ups
>
>
> John, No, not incompetent, just made an error. He failed to set his
> altimeter to field elevation for his minimums. He had quite a lot of hours,
> but was no longer on the Thunderbirds afterward. Jerry
> Life is not a race, it is a ride. Enjoy it!!
>
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/proud-texan/
>
> --- On Sun, 12/21/08, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety
> and back-ups To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:33 PM
>
> Was the pilot just incompetent ?
>
> It seems hard to believe that he put his plane flat on the runway for any
> reason other than not knowing what should have been done.
>
> How many flying hours had the pilot logged ahead of performing this stunt ?
>
> jh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Barker" <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] OT, Miramar Re: While on the subject of computer safety
> and back-ups
>
> > No, it's a bomber; but take all the kit off and it looks pretty good.
> > Not as good as a Viper, of course.
> >
> > But then all Viper displays don't look good:
> >
> > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/192468/f16_crash/
> >
> > When the solo Thunderbird pulled-through (Split-S) from below his gate
> > height.
> >
> > This is such a good video that we show our students as a lesson in
> > flight safety.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On 21 Dec 2008, at 16:16, Ken Norton wrote:
> >> A fully loaded Tornado is obviously not a good "air-show"
>
> plane.
>
> >> I remember when the F16 was being showed for the first time at the
> >> Paris Air
> >> Show. The routine they had that first year was unbelievable!
> >> Halfway down
> >> the runway on the takeoff roll, it went straight up then did an
> >> imitation
> >> hammerhead (obviously it wasn't) and came screaming straight back
> >> down at
> >> the runway where at the last second it pulled back out to horizontal
> >> and
> >> continued down the runway at about 100 foot.  It was a routine that
> >> stopped
> >> everybody in their tracks--NOBODY had seen anything like it before.
> >
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